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The Hillary Clinton Puzzle

It ain’t over till the fat lady sings, and Hillary ain’t fat (not even her ankles).  These are grim days for Hillary Clinton and her campaign.  Several pundits are already doing her political obituary.  Not so fast.

As I have said before, I once was a member of the Republican hate-Hillary camp.  I succumbed to the media brain washing.  Then I met her.  But not just a meet and greet.  This was a sit down in her office, with two other folks, and I briefed her on a range of national security issues.  The woman I met that morning was the most impressive person I have ever briefed.
She was the opposite of everything I had been told by the media.  She was warm, witty, charming, and scary smart.  I left that first briefing having to rethink all of my previous biases towards Hillary.  This is one of the reasons I think she is hands down the best person to govern this nation in the face of the awful challenges ahead.

But I also acknowledge she has run a terrible campaign.  Or more correctly, those put in charge of running her campaign have failed her.  Today’s front page piece in the New York Times by Luo, Becker and Healy is ugly but accurate, Donors Worried by Clinton Campaign Spending.  Over spending is the least of the  campaign’s problems. They forgot the basics of organizing.  They forgot the need to identify supporters and remain in constant communication with those supporters.  I have checked with friends around the country and have received the same grim reports–people who make financial contributions are not regularly contacted; people wishing to volunteer have trouble finding something to do; and average registered democrats have not heard from her campaign.

A friend of mine, who actually worked on the Vice Presidential campaign of Bill Miller back in 1964, contributed money last November to both Hillary and Barack.  He was conducting his own research of sorts to see how both campaigns reacted.  He lives in Maryland.  The Obama folks were all over him.  Regular communication.  Notes from the campaign.  Signed notes from Barack.  They let him know, “we care.”

Hillary’s campaign?  Virtual crickets.  An occasional email.  One phone call before the primaries.  No visits.  The Barack people sent out a team of two to knock on his door and ask for his vote.   I am glad Hillary fired her campaign manager.  Unfortunately, it may be too late.  For the sake of the country, I hope not.

I realize some will be tempted to say, “well, if she can’t run a campaign, how can she run the country?”  A fair question.  In my view governing and campaigning are two very different activities.  The task of governing starts with a basic understanding of the President’s real powers and the bureaucratic environment that can choke the life out of the most noble policy aspiration.  Hillary understands that in a way that Obama does not (and probably never will).  She has learned the hard way during her husband’s presidency.  She is not the kind of person to make the same mistake twice.

If Hillary falls short in Texas, I hope she sues Wolfson and Gruenwald for malpractice.  I don’t blame them for spending too much money on food, hotel rooms, or snow shovels.  But I sure as hell blame them for not doing the basic work of building a volunteer network  to get the votes out for Hillary.  Fortunately, there is still time in Texas.  To know her is to like her.  She’s not a rock star, she is simply rock solid.

  • brat

    Yeah, while I’ve given you grief about the supposed Obama-Ayers link (smells like Jerry Falwell a la 1990s), I’ve been a Clinton supporter and voter.

    And she should have pitched Mark Penn a long time ago. He’s too narcassitic and has done her campaign massive harm. Basic rule of campaigns, it’s about the candidate and their issues. Penn LOVES the limelight and LOVES being the center of action. So, he’s making headlines, as well as pocketing millions of dollars.

    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. And Clinton should be critiqued for blowing “message discipline.” Particularly, when the media is NOT going to cut her any slack, she should have tossed Penn overboard months ago.

  • Cee

    Tra la la la la la la la laaaaaaaa

    FEINGOLD: I VOTED FOR OBAMA

    The Capital Times
    2/22/2008 11:59 am

    Sen. Russ Feingold said today that he voted for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama in this week’s Wisconsin primary and indicated that he likely will vote for Obama’s nomination as one of the state’s “superdelegates” to the Democratic convention this summer.

    “I really do think that at the gut level, this is a chance to do something special” for the nation, Feingold said, adding that electing Obama represents “an enormous historical opportunity for America and for our relationship with the world.”

  • Masslib

    Agreed, but it hasn’t helped that the msm/blogosphere has muted her supporters. As one who advocates Hillary by blogging about her, it’s extremely frustating to, for the past year, have pro-hill comments scrubbed from huffpo, ccn/msnbc/newspaper blogs. Kos took away several bloggers ability to rec comments. We’ve been marginalized into oblivion. Not to say that doesn’t take away from the campaigns lax efforts in the grassroots, but she’s had to face an impossible bias from liberal and mainstream media alike, and her supportes who utilize those outlets have been, from the start, silenced.

  • Simon

    FEINGOLD: I VOTED FOR OBAMA

    And he just lost my respect.

    How much did Feingold’s PAC get, because they won’t be getting anything from me.

    Nothing in life is static, good to know who gets it, and who doesnt.

    Part of life is trusting your gut, your non criminal gut, (ahem) and when someone deals directly with a man who aids terrorists, you don’t enable him to the Presidency.

    See how Congress got trolled into Iraq?

    See how easy it is to get them to letting support Obama?

    Bye Russ.

  • http://penitent-thief.blogspot.com/ PMS

    Russ “Minority Party” Feingold. This country wants to be in the Center. Lefties mistake Blue Collar and African-American support as leftist. It isn’t It’s still about the New deal and The Great Society for these good folks.

    The GOP has been amazingly lucky and/or crafty to have a “centrist’ as a candidate again (remember, W ran as a Centrist, too). McCain can claim distance from BushCo… enough to win against BHO, and maybe even with coat-tails.

  • abycat

    I unsubcribed from Feingold’s list yesterday. Just in time to get the news he voted for Obama. I must be psychic.

  • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

    That’s why God or nature gave us brains. We are supposed to think with the brain rather than the guts or the balls. Someone tell Russ.

  • Simon

    We are supposed to think with the brain rather than the guts or the balls

    But sometimes our intuition is correct, despite what we think we see.

    But I guess our intuition is our intellect.

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  • rjj

    Competence does not inspire hope: it implies hard work, which arouses anxiety, excites guilt – and elicits avoidance.

  • NYC Voter

    It’s just so frustrating to have someone who would make such a phenomenal President being thrown overboard by someone who is a good campaigner. We need Hillary Clinton. Make calls, give money she needs us. At least I will know when the fat lady sings, I will have done all I could do to make Hillary our President

  • rosaleen

    I too am disappointed in Russ Feingold’s decision to back B.O. I think B.O. is one of the scariest and creepiest candidates I’ve seen in a lifetime. When I saw, on Hillary Speaks For Me, the young woman describing from first hand experience, the manipulative nature of B.O.’s rallies, it made me feel sick. Why can’t Feingold see that, too?

    But I’ve sent (from California) Feingold money for years and this is why I started sending him money: He was the one and only US Senator to vote against the USA Patriot Act. Since then he has continued to impress me as the best Senator we have out there in DC. I wanted him to run for POTUS. While I feel a little betrayed that he would support an empty suit and a charlatan like B.O., and I did write him to say so, I am not a one-issue voter and I’m not going to toss out my respect and support for Russ Feingold.

    I urge anyone who, in the heat of this ugly campaign, thinks of giving up on Russ Feingold to read about the Senator and what he’s done for us in D.C. He is a good man.

    People of good conscience can disagree.

  • rosaleen

    Of course, everyone else supporting B.O. is a nitwit;^D

    Hee.

  • Mike Howell

    Simon –

    I kind of liked Feingold, but not anymore.

  • Ga6thDem

    Well, guys unless Hillary pulls out a miracle we’re going to lose this election. McCain will be the next president and we’ll just have to learn to deal with it. There’s no way once the GOP gets done with Obama he’ll be able to hold his head up. We’ve already seen how poorly he’s done handling the patriotism flap. More fodder for the GOP. He hands it to them daily.

  • attobuoy

    Larry, I understand that you’re impressed by Hillary after briefing her. But you don’t say whether you’ve had a similar opportunity to interact with Obama.

    Have you had such an opportunity?

    Understand, all I know of both Clinton and Obama is what I can read and see on videos. And it seems evident to me that both are exceptional individuals. But the public seems to like the new kid better than either Hillary or John McCain, perhaps because of his newness, which is a very real positive factor in the race against McCain.

    And yes, Obama has interacted with some questionable characters (slimeballs cluster around politicians) but hey, he’s not one of the Keating five.

  • wethornet

    larry, i like the way you think, the way you write, your scrupulous honesty. the way you sing her praises, yet don’t flinch from describing her shortcomings.

    when you write


    The woman I met that morning was the most impressive person I have ever briefed.

    that is very, very, very impressive. and very sad. poignant. sad because wtf is the “block” that prevents her from being that way in public? or close to it.

    and she’s known this for years, so why not change it?

    i drove in a the motorcade for al gore. he was kind enough, and smart enough to have the drivers lined up in front of air force 2 and shook our hands with a white house photographer in tow. (being democrats and inefficent as all hell i never got the photo; i can track it down.) we were under strict instructions NOT to really say anything to him.

    it was the same deal as hillary. bright, funny, personable in private. in public. not so much.

    i wanted to tell him to “get the stick out of his a*s,” let his hair down. be yourself and you’ll win.

    under reagan we heard the cry: “let reagan be reagan.” people with working brain cells said to themselves “well, what’s stopping him?”

    john kerry wanted to go after the bullies hammer and tong (supposedly) but the consultants said no. well, excuse me, but what f*cking bullsh*t. just exactly who is running the show here? sweet jesus, joseph and mary.

    my observation is that people are starving for authenticity from politicans and the will handsomely reward those who provide it.

    hillary’s situation (talent but a false public persona) is sad.

    cont’d.

  • Ann

    I’m infuriated that the Democratic party is allowing GOP operatives to pick our nominee. This whole process is a sham. At a time when we are fighting two wars and facing an economic collapse, there is no way a freshman Senator with zero foreign policy and national security experience wins in the general election. I don’t care how hopeful his rhetoric. This is a Rovian strategy to keep the White House and it’s working. D*mnit, it’s working.

    The only hope we have is for automatic delegates to understand what is happening, see the deep division in the party and create a Clinton/Obama ticket.

    Obama is running a campaign of hope and unity while his supporters are out on the net knee-capping Hillary supporters. Most of them won’t rally behind him if he’s given the nomination — no matter how nicely he asks.

  • chris

    Larry, I really appreciate your comment about changing your mind, because though I haven’t met Clinton, or been anywhere near such an experience as you had, I just had the Shit wiped from my eyes when I did a full assessment of Hillary Rodham. And I cannot discount that record. I cannot put the record of Obama next to it and see him with any credibility.

    But even without Obama, I have had to rethink what I bought into, even though the people who smeared her were, in my opinion, the lowest of low…shit rubs off.

    When a Lie exists in the public sphere, it doesn’t have to gain traction by having people believe it. In fact, if you can get enough people to simply chime in to deny it, and keep them busy denying it, then it gains traction, and later influences the conversations of the very people who now support, but with reservations.

    I’ve heard for 2 weeks straight from people I discuss any politic with, and each found Clinton far more substantive. In fact so many people have said they think Clinton is far better qualified, but a gushy feel good campaign is more important. They have said that Hillary is mean, and elite, arrogant, power-tripping, and of course, the wife of Bill Clinton.

    I agree about her campaign, just as I said about Al Gore’s campaign. But since we haven’t seen the outcome, it is important for me to note that the Obama campaign is full of wholes too. They may respond once you submit some money. But when I called to discuss my bones of contention, they went all Amway, Scientologist, or whatever on me. They went into denial that I wasn’t buying their shit. Each one attacked her campaign while claiming she was attacking theirs. This is what bugs the fuck out of me about Obama, his campaign, his followers.

    Thanks LJ for your insight.

  • yttik

    It’s sad that she’s struggling. Hillary has empathy, something that’s incredibly rare in a politician. Most of them might have a passing moment of sympathy, but people really just become issues to politicians. It’s too painful to care and to identify with everyone.

    Empathy is rare, it’s that ability to reach out and share other people’s pain. You can see that in the way she handled the tragedy today. Instantly it wasn’t about Hillary or her campaign, it was about the family and the guy who was killed.

    Besides all her other talents, a leader with empathy for the people of this country is what we’ve all been missing. That would be real change.

  • Masslib

    She doesn’t have a fake persona. My God, she’s the same person we’ve known for twenty years. That just a dumb thing to say.

  • wethornet

    If Hillary falls short in Texas, I hope she sues Wolfson and Gruenwald for malpractice.

    larry, i don’t know enough……but you may be wrong about mandy grunwald. just an impression. (i’d be interested to hear if kathleen had any thoughts on this.)

    wolfson leaves me underwhelmed.

    here i’ll return the favor of scrupulous honesty back atcha. hillary shouldn’t sue them for malpractice. she ain’t a victim here. she’s the one in charge; the lady in the mirror when she brushes her teeth in the morning and at night is the problem. she’s the commanding general. she has total control over personnel.

    cont’d.

  • chris

    One more thing:
    Ed Shultz ran his fat trap tonight next to fathead Matthews. He was calling for Clinton to drop out now, and said this wasn’t about Clinton, it was what was good for the Democratic Party. Well since obviously I cannot easily respond to him personally ‘allow me to retort’ (lifted from Samuel Jackson’s Jules Winfield’s character written and developed by Quinton Tarantino):

    Ed, it isn’t about Clinton, its about me, the voter, the person in Texas who hasn’t had a chance to give her a chance. You want to have her bow out before I vote on March 4th. Fuck you.
    (ah, feeling the tension release already)
    This is what I hate most about political cowards. They start telling people to get out of the race because they have contempt in their heart for the whole process. They’ve screwed the system by forcasts, and pushing for inevitablility. This is partially while I don’t want to vote for any Democrat, because they didn’t give me a chance to vote for Dennis Kucinich, or John Edwards.

    And this bloated fathead Ed Schultz just blathered and blathered the same line. Matthews at least told him to chill out and let the other guest respond. But the fact they pick them as guests over and over shows how the networks enable these jackasses to smear without reservation, and then PostAnalyse the whole thing to absurdum.

  • rosaleen

    attobuoy you said:

    But the public seems to like the new kid better than either Hillary or John McCain, perhaps because of his newness, which is a very real positive factor in the race against McCain.

    Where have you been? Haven’t read a newspaper or watched any news in the past 16 years? The public supports B.O. because he is a smooth-talking charlatan who happens to be pretty and the public has been convinced by the media over the past 16 years that HRC is a bitch on wheels.

  • Taters

    Larry when you say scary smart about someone, that impresses the hell out of me.
    Wonderful post. And yes, her campaign has been less than brilliant.

    I didn’t make the decision to become a Hillary supporter until late Dec. I, too had to put aside preconceived notions and as Susan wrote here once, (Lol, ok, maybe more than once ;) just check her out with an open mind. I did and I eventually came to believe that she was the candidate I most preferred to be POTUS.

    An old musician buddy of mine from Chicago, Willie Riser, went to high school school with her. They were a year apart and he remembers when she was a Republican. (He was a Dem back then as he is now) I believe they were respective student council somethings or class presidents. Anyway, Willie said she was wonderful then and was a really nice, smart, classy girl in HS and made time for everybody. He was and still is really proud of her.
    When we performed at the 1st Clinton inaugural, Willie said to say hi to her from “Big Bill” – apparently his nickname back then. I didn’t see her, let alone talk to her to her, but I got a souvenir photo of the first family and put together a card as a gag, and I did my best attempt at calligraphy with a fake note that said, “Of course, I remember, Bill. Yes, there’s another Bill in my life in my now but how could I ever forget…” and signed it Hillary. He knew it was a gag, of course.
    He kept it on his mantle for many a year. And when I saw him last summer after ten years, I asked him what he thought of her as a possible president. He said she’d be a great president. My wife has always admired her, Susan was pulling for her, Wes Clark was campaigning for her, Pat Lang expressed that he thought she was the best choice, and posted a great piece she did at Foreign Affairs, saying “I see nothing wrong with this.” Joe and Valerie came out for her as did you and many of my fellow posters here at NQ. (And for those here that don’t please know I regard you no less.) In the end, I made my own decision.

    I’ve always admired your sense of fair play, Larry and you were defending her prior to making your decision to back her. Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble on your thread, I’ll probably take it easy and do something nice and peaceful tonight, like watch a hockey game.
    Go Hillary, and keep showing ‘em what you’re made of.

  • TeakWoodKite

    “I really do think that at the gut level, this is a chance to do something special” for the nation, Feingold said,

    something special?….I bring the spouse flowers, like that you mean?
    (no not like thoose poor saps in line every valentines day)

    Politicians pick their battles, voters pick their polititions. Battles gets a no bid contract in Iraq.

    Perhaps Edwards won’t endorse a candidate because issues take precedence over the candidate.

  • Taters

    I can’t stand that gas bag. And I don’t won’t listen to him.

  • Anne

    The gloating is childish and unattractive – and out of place.

    Feingold is entitled to vote for whomever he wants – he’s a citizen like every other citizen. That he has been on the right side of many of the issues that matter to me, does not mean his vote imbues Obama with that same “rightness,” or mean that Obama could be relied on to be right in the future.

    And that will be his reaction when Obama fails to be the “Progressive Patriot” that Feingold thinks he is.

  • susanunpc

    Here’s Larry’s full story of meeting her that day. It’s an amazing story:

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/22/am-i-a-hillary-cheerleader/

  • wethornet

    last one.

    phil mickelson: tiger woods:: hillary clinton: barack obama.

    larry you’re a golfer. heard this a little while back. (maybe on the golf channel. might have been in an interview in this month’s golf digest w/ tiger woods’ teammate at stanford, something casey?, the guy with the bad leg, sued the pga to be able to ride a cart, etc.)

    phil mickelson is phenomenally talented guy. then comes this phenomen called tiger woods. who eclipses him. it’s mickelson’s bad luck to have tiger out there.

    in this analogy hillary is mickelson. and obama is tiger. if obama comes along 10 years later she gets what she had planned for her whole life, ie, the nomination. she gets her moment in the sun. if he wasn’t so gifted an orator he goes the route of biden and dodd, etc.

    ~~~
    i don’t want to hear any crap about obama from anyone. #1) i don’t have a dog in this fight. #2) i know all the arguments. my point: let’s be scrupulous and say the guy is racking up wins, and he is doing something right with the public. you don’t have to like it, or you can be worried about potential future landmines, to acknowledge that something remarkable is going on.

  • Kate

    I have a sinking feeling that Hillary will quit after Mar 4. What scares me even more is Obama will win the whole thing because people are so disenchanted with then Republican party. People are so desperately for change they will grasp for sliver of hope, even if it is false. I thought to myself if I can take 8 years of Bush, why not 4 more years of Obama. But I am worried this country couldn’t take 4 more years of Obama, even if I can stand it.

    I was in Beijing as a volunteer when Hillary came to give a speech at the Women’s Conference many years ago. So many people waited in rain to hear her speak. I was blown away.

    I just got my citizenship last year. I was so excited because, coming from China, I’ve never voted in my whole life, and I thought at the time my first presidential vote will be for Hillary. And it just brings me to tear to see her chance slowly slips away.

    Many of my friends don’t like Obama because we feel we’ve seen this phenomena before and we aren’t easily fooled. To us, thousands of Obama supporters in a Obama rally chanting “Yes we can” is no different than those Red Guards chanting for Chairman Man in Tian’anmen Square during the Culture Revolution. Speaking from my own experience, change can go either way, not all changes are good. This is why Asian, especially Chinese in California voted overwhelmingly for Hillary on Super Tuesday.

    Bubble will eventually burst, please make it early not late.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Only if one is….

  • OxyCon

    Speaking of Obama’s organization, that is the very first thing that starting getting me to have doubts about him.
    I was getting calls every night from a blocked number, right at dinner time, so I just let the answering machine take care of the annoyance. After a few nights I pick up the phone to give them a piece of my mind (I’m on state and federal do not call lists). It’s Obama’s campaign wanting me to donate some money. The person on the phone was extremely pushy, on the verge of being rude. I wanted to donate to his campaign, but I preferred to do so after the primary. I told the caller I would donate at a later date, and this wasn’t good enough for him. He started pressing me to donate $500 dollars, which I told him I didn’t have. Then he says “How about $400″. I said no. Then he says “$250?”, no; $200?, no; “$150?,no”; “$100?, no”; “$50?”, no; “$25?, OK”.
    I finally agree to the $25 and hang up the phone really miffed. I’m thinking “This is a freaking shakedown”. Then I said to myself “F them, I’m not sending them a dime”. They wouldn’t stop calling me for weeks for my measly $25 dollars.
    Now, I’m smart enough to know not to hold that against Obama, but that really soured me on his campaign.

  • Taters

    I see Tiger’s cool under pressure as more like Hillary, wethornet. I was just thinking that before I read your post. It’s all good, my friend.

  • rosaleen

    wethornet, I acknowledge that something remarkable is going on. Something remarkably creepy.

  • Mike Howell

    Barack Hussein Obama keeps getting the kind of press you can’t buy – nothing but praise from even Karl Rove.

    You can’t fight that crap. No wonder Reagan is Obama’s hero. He did away with the Fairness Doctrine. The fraud that is the 4th Estate (or Prada for my purposes) screwed Edwards with silence because they couldn’t screw him with soundbites.

    The Clintons have never received anything, but hate from the press. George Bush got two thumbs up, and they get nonstop hate.

    You can’t win against a malicious press.

    The internet might have helped, but the hiphop idiots who would just as soon vote for cop killers are so clueless, that’s not an option.

    So, first don’t buy newspapers. They stopped providing credible investigative reporters, so screw them.

    Next, stop watching MSNBC. They don’t even pretend to try to report. It’s all opinions from idiots with an ax to grind or creepy mancrushes.

    Do you think that Mildews and Olderman want a quality Democrat to win so that they can go out of business?

  • TeakWoodKite

    public persona…as in MSM with an agenda. no?

  • wethornet

    WARNING SUSAN: I’m about to tease you. Playfully.

    Comment by Taters | 2008-02-22 20:49:54

    didn’t make the decision to become a Hillary supporter until late Dec. I, too had to put aside preconceived notions and as Susan wrote here once, (Lol, ok, maybe more than once ;-) just check her out with an open mind.

    Taters, Susan, Larry, gang. I had this thought about Susan the other day. You know how the Secret Service gives people nicknames? Reagan was “Rawhide.” Cheney’s “Backseat.” Well I thought that Susan’s should be “Sledgehammer.” This woman works like John Henry in a coal mine. :-)

  • Simon

    I don’t want to hear any crap about obama from anyone.

    Obama sucks.

    Sorry, your opinion, if it’s well reasoned, is respected, even if we disagree, but the Obama filth doesn’t go away until he’s exposed. Which means people like me stay on his ass until he’s held accountable, no matter how long it takes.

    The guy is too fucking questionable to even think of ignoring his terrorist ties, in addition to his IL corruption.

    In all honesty, I have a really hard time understanding why it is OK to befriend men who deal with people who kill civilians, even take their money.

    Denial?

    And what are the greater implications of national security, the economy, when our politicians do this?

  • Simon

    What scares me even more is Obama will win the whole thing because people are so disenchanted with then Republican party.

    Just as with Kerry, right?

    Rove said he would stress the terrorist angle, about 2 years ago, right?

    And Obama fixed Rove a plate, full of terrorist.

    And this is so obvious, and the stupid democratic leadership will walk right into it, again…

  • Simon

    The internet might have helped, but the hiphop idiots who would just as soon vote for cop killers are so clueless, that’s not an option.

    Is hip hop still around?

    I thought it was dead.

    Hip hop is so britney spears, people even pay attention?

  • Simon

    I wonder if they refer to anyone as “potato?”

    (Not in reference to poster “taters.”)

  • Badger

    The thing about Feingold is that as much as everyone considers Joe Lieberman this huge traitor on impeachment because of the speech he gave, Lieberman actually came out against impeachment in it. Feingold, on the other hand, was the Democrat who most went out of his way to ensure that there would be a trial even when the Republicans seemed willing to let it go.

    Why is it that electing Obama is considered such an extraordinary historical moment but yet electing the first woman president is pretty much viewed as “yawn, business as usual”?

    It’s strange to me to hear that her campaign is doing such a bad job reaching out to donors. That was always considered one of Bill Clinton’s strengths.

  • TeakWoodKite

    And who the hell is he to speak about “the good of the party”? I suppose every tool has its uses.
    I am all out a’ fear.

  • NYC Voter

    We need Hillary, please donate and make calls. Go to Texas or Ohio if you can get away. She needs us now and we can make the difference

  • TeakWoodKite

    I just got my citizenship last year
    Thanks Kate. It is an honor to know your perspectives will add to the fabric of this nation.
    I can not begin to understand what life experiences you view this parade with, but your comment is a very sobering perspective.

  • Gloria

    What’s so interesting about this is that Ed Schultz was promoted by Clinton. He went to DC to a gathering that Clinton helped put together which focused on getting a slice of the radio pie.

  • TeakWoodKite

    All due respect Simon…Hip Hop is a live and well and votes as well. Like it or not.

  • AF

    So interesting. On one of the cable channels the other night they showed Obama at a huge rally and he blew his nose into the microphone – and everyone laughed and cheered. Didn’t understand that.

    Here’s the YouTube: Norah O’Donnel – even when Barack Obama blows his nose on stage, people applaud.

  • http://cujo359.blogspot.com Cujo359

    Unfortunately, Anne, you’re right on all counts. I suspect that Feingold’s just tired of the Clinton/DLC approach to things, and he thinks Obama is the alternative.

    He is in for a rude awakening, I’m afraid.

  • http://cujo359.blogspot.com Cujo359

    I don’t understand inside politics, but I’m pretty sure Clinton’s problems aren’t about money. Here’s what Opensecrets thinks each candidate has spent thus far:

    Clinton: $105,350,147
    Obama: $113,291,435

    Clinton has more money on hand, too. The problem lies elsewhere. I’m thinking it might have something to do with the $3.8 million that’s gone to Mark Penn’s consultancy. That’s a lot of moolah for the embarassment he’s caused.

    OS Presidential race page.

  • silver

    Last night I watched the movie Apollo 13, and the entire time I thought of Hillary’s campaign. Time and time again everyone thought she was sunk and wouldn’t see the light of day. But guess what, the astronauts made it back alive—and so did Hillary against all odds. And who couldn’t love Ed Harris’ character?? The man never quit believing.

    I would like to say something hateful about Russ Feingold, but all I can do is breathe a heavy sigh. As of late, there are so many people I once respected—people who I thought had outstanding character with good judgement, but they’re just a huge disappointment. I don’t even have the energy to say something awful, just breathe a heavy sigh.

  • http://cujo359.blogspot.com Cujo359

    For many of us, this has become a race of candidates who are, to use a NASA-ism, suboptimal. Sen. Feingold’s choice wasn’t mine, but I thnk I can understand it. I still respect his judgement. I think this episode just goes to show that sometimes you need to step back and think for a second.

  • rosaleen

    Badger, I didn’t know that about Feingold and the impeachment thing. Can you refer me to an article or something? I’d like to read more about that. Thanks.

  • Simon

    I think this episode just goes to show that sometimes you need to step back and think for a second

    Obama’s criminal ties are revolting. No SANE or reasonable person could look at those, realistically, and think Obama is a viable candidate, a SMART candidate, a GOOD candidate for America.

    Because he’s not, combined with his plagiarism, Barry appears to have no mind, perhaps he lost a few too many brain cells to the drug wars of his youth.

    Feingold, who STILL had presence of mind to vote against the Patriot Act despite the 9.11 hysteria, should know better, he’s always been to me, one of the better Senators, (though I have heard rumblings from people whose opinions I usually respect).

    In addition, I’ve been getting a number of solicitations from Feingold’s PAC, and I’m really really curious to know if a donation was made, as Obama has a pattern of buying his friends.

    Hey, it’s slap down Chicago politics, and it ain’t 1965.

    But you wouldn’t know it from Obama’s tactics, now, would you?

    “Hey, anybody wanna lose a war?”

    Just give Bush’s guys a call.

    And yes, this includes Rove, as he acted as a “senoir adviser” to the adminstration.

  • Patrick Henry

    Thanks Larry for your comments and for sharing this insight and experience..great read..

    I share your Honest impressions of hillary..and I see those Qualitys you mentioned more and more ebery times she makes and Appearance or Debates..and its so obvious she really is smarter, better informed and more Qualified to be the POTUS in these dangerous and demanding times..Hillary knows whats at stake..whats going on in the Real World..as YOU do Larry..what is required of the president on DAY ONE..The Appointments.. organizing a staff and Cabinet..perhaps another 9/11..Event ..perhaps a High Level Mass casuality event..

    I know Hillary is ready for that..

    What about Obama..how Porepared is he..Who is going to be in His Cabinet..who will Be His NSA..who will be His Chief of staff…His Karl Rove..??

    Anypne doing an assessment/Analysis/Foreign and Domestic..??

    I think Hillarys Organizers got Overconfident early on..Relyed on early Polls..and Spent BIG…then figured they could Coast..

    Obama…like 9/11..Suprised every body..and now people are saying..Who Could have Anticipated”..

    Well..The People who Put the OBAMA PACKAGE together back in Chicago..”Anticipated” ..Prepared..and Knew that just about Any DEMOCRAT was gonna win the White House.. everyone was sick of Bush and the republicans..and that they didn’t want Hillary to be the Democrat Front Runner..because they believed she could be Beat..or Replaced..even by Obama.. if He Organizers Planned Right..Just like rove did when He packaged GWB..in Texas and then in 2000 for President..

    I Fear with Obama..we are getting the opposite of the NeoCon A&B Teams..and thats why…with his know background and associates…I Want him Completely Vetted..and if anyone doesn’t undertsnad Larrys concerns on that point ..then they are being Irresponsible and Haven’t learned a Thing from the NeoCons and the past 8 years..

    I have seen the Obama Organizers first hand..I have been to a Caucus..and i know they are determined and in this to WIN the White House and Control of the Government..

    My Question is Why..and how far is the Pendelum going to Swing..to the Right for Mccain or Left for Obama..

    I agree with Larry and Susan..thats a Legitimate Question..for both Republicans and Democrats..otherwise..watch movies if you want fairy tale endings..

    After Eight Years of KING GEORGE..I am Prepared to give Princess Hillary her chance..

    There are too many Dragons at the gate..To Much Betrayal and Intrigue going on..to Turn the Throne over to the JESTER right Now..

  • Anne

    My daughter has a friend whose dad got him an intern gig with Hillary’s DC Senate office for two summers, and even though my daughter’s friend is a Republican, he was just blown away by how smart Clinton is. I always remember him saying that she consumed massive quantities of material on every subject you can think of – that she can process it, discuss it and integrate it into the big picture without breaking a sweat used to leave him with his mouth hanging open. There was never any such thing as too much information with her – she wanted it all.

    Frankly, that’s the kind of president I want, and that we haven’t had – and I have no confidence that Obama would be that kind of president.

  • Nate

    The reason many people, including large numbers of traditional Democrats, are not supporting Hillary, has nothing to do with the media. There is no way to spin her vote on Iraq. Don’t sit here and try to BS me or anyone else about what she THOUGHT she was authorizing. If you paid even the slightest amount of attention to the news at the time, there was no doubt about it, that was a vote for war.

    If you are willing to lie about a decision that has thus far cost us thousands of troops and untold hundreds of billions of dollars, then I don’t give a fuck how much experience and how many great plans you may have, I will not vote for you because you don’t deserve the honor and privilege of being President.

  • vee

    Fiengold is doing something “special.” He’s helping the Republicans bamboozle the Democrats. When Obama is brought to justice in the Rezko investigation, the integrity of the Democratic Party will be a casualty as well as Obama.

    It looks bad for Team Clinton on the finances, but I can’t keep myself from withholding judgment for now. I feel a great mistrust toward the media and they seem pretty smug about this.

  • Badger
  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Wow, Kate. What a moving post. And a warm welcome to our counry. We are fortunate you are here.

    What a striking comparison to people chanting for Mao. Creepy.

  • mgm

    Don’t buy your comparison of Woods to Obama. Oh, I understand your premise, all right, but the overall comparison is banal. You seem to think the situation’s not too weighty an issue. Like a game of golf. Chasing a little white ball over a country club course should not be compared in any way to what is now happening to our country. To what will happen to our country if its left in the hands of a Let’s All Unite Elmer Gantry. The consequences are terrifying to imagine. Think an inexperienced Jack Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Bay of Pigs. Inexperience can be fatal. In fact, it’s as though half the country has become so brain-damaged they would vote for Tiger Woods For President.

  • rosaleen

    Thank you for the links, Badger. I’ll check them out!

    You know I lived in Japan when I was a kid and there the badger was the prototypical bad guy in all the children’s stories. Sort of like the fox or the big bad wolf here. A tricksy character. I have a little carved statue of a badger that I brought home with me all those years ago.

  • rosaleen

    OK I remember that now, but funny, I remembered it being Lieberman who did that. And it doesn’t surprise me because he is a rules kind of guy who has a deep, and in my opinion, a misplaced, respect for the prerogatives of the different branches, different houses. This has been one of my beefs with him –that he is too deferential towards Bush’s nominations. When he says that the POTUS should have the right to seat his own choices it makes me crazy.I think he was dererring to the House with that vote. He says:

    Feingold said it was only fair to give House prosecutors more time to attempt to prove the impeachment allegations.

    Feingold’s move surprised few who know him.

    In his hard-fought re-election campaign last year against Republican congressman Mark Neumann, Feingold took the unusual step of ordering negative ads about his opponent taken off the air and rejecting commercials on his behalf paid for with “soft money.”

    He’s probably a real tight-ass. But he is still, imho, the best Senator we have up there.

  • Sam

    I am willing to bet that Feingold is not aware of the skeletons in Obama’s closet. I was out with some friends last night, people who I consider to be incredibly smart and savvy, and I was shocked by how little they knew about their candidate of choice on the issues. They just repeating the media lines of, “But my god, can you believe the Clintons are racist?” I was honestly dumbfounded. I pointed out a bunch of facts that they were missing (had never heard of Rezko, for example, had no idea he had made comments about Pakistan that resulted in effigy burnings in Pakistan) and they said, wow, I have never heard that stuff before, though I don’t think it swayed either of them in the slightest. I think the media is screwing this country over.

    I have no doubt that Solis-Doyle had some issues managing Hillary’s campaign, and I just hope, hope, hope that it is not too late for her to make up this ground. I think the campaign was hit on so many different fronts that no other candidate has had to deal with. While I think the campaign anticipated negative media coverage of Hillary, I do not think the campaign could possibly have anticipated the fawning adulation that the press has bestowed upon Obama. I also think they did not see Obama playing the race card in the vicious and destructive way that he did. And finally, perhaps her campaign saw this, but I sure as hell did not see the incredibly disgusting and offensive sexism that has played out in the press, from Obama’s supporters, and even from Obama himself.

  • Taters

    Hey, I resemble that remark!

  • rosaleen

    “The Clintons are racist.”

    When Bill Clinton was governor, he did more for people of color, appointed more people of color to commissions and judgeships than any governor every did anywhere in the history of the country. and not only was HRC part of that, she also has worked on behalf of people of color her entire adult life. And as soon as a smooth-talking pretty black man comes along and claims that HRC is dissing MLK, people of color abandoned the Clintons. Just like that.

  • rosaleen

    I shouldn’t say people of color abandoned the Clintons. Black people abandoned the Clintons just like that.

  • JAH

    I found my way over here thanks to Taylor Marsh’s site, and I am very glad I did.

    I couldn’t agree more with your assessment of the way this campaign has been run. I’d like to give Mark Penn a piece of my mind no matter how this ends up working out.

  • Donald from Hawaii

    I had an opportunity to meet Barack Obama in December 2004, just after he was elected to the U.S. Senate, during his visit to his grandmother’s in his old hometown of Honolulu. We had organized a Democratic Party fundraiser for him.

    Maybe Sen.-elect Obama was having a bad day, but it seemed like he immediately took umbrage to the remark the state party chair clearly made in jest about Obama being “Hawaii’s third senator,” going so far as to rebuke the chair for disrespecting the people of Illinois. He then proceeded to lecture the crowd — each of whom had paid $150 and up for the privilege of hearing the man speak — about the need for tolerance and diversity, as though he was addressing a room full of east Texas crackers, rather than a mixed crowd in Honolulu, which is one of the most racially and ethnically diverse cities in the world. I came away from the event totally deflated about the Democrats’ future prospects, coming as it did on the heels of John Kerry’s November ’04 flameout.

    I’ll gladly support Sen. Obama if he’s my party’s nominee, but I just can’t help but feel that Democrats are being cheated out of something. My caveat to that statement — I felt much the same way about Bill Clinton in 1992, and I eventually warmed to him. I can only hope to say the same about Barack Obama 10 years’ hence.

  • Donald from Hawaii

    Maybe I missed something in your argument, but it’s been my opinion that Jack Kennedy’s inexperience and bellicosity were the primary catalysts for both the Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile crises, not to mention the national tragedy that became the Vietnam War.

  • Donald from Hawaii

    Barack Obama doesn’t have anything to worry about legally from the Tony Rezko scandal and trial. There is no evidence that he ever indulged in any malfeasance with the man.

    Rather, Obama’s problem is primarily one of public relations, in that he has tried to minimize the relationship he had with the man, going so far to reduce Rezko to a passing reference as “this individual.”

    I don’t hold Obama either responsible or liable for the many sins of Tony Rezko. However, I find it incredibly callous and cheap that he would go so far as to all but deny that Rezko was both a trusted mentor and longtime friend. That is a reflection of Obama’s self-absorbed natue, which I hardly find flattering.

    The bald fact of the matter is that Sen. Obama would not be where he is today, a United States Senator on the verge of snagging the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination — had not Rezko initially identified him to the Daley Democrats in Chicago as someone who had serious political potential.

    Obama’s Achilles’ Heel is his failure to properly acknowledge their friendship, thus allowing Republicans a precious opportunity to malevolently spin that relationship to the public as one of implied wrongdoing, greed and political opportunism.

  • chris

    Oh yeah, I remember this, but consider all that has transpired, it is great to read again. So much we learn. Thanks for this.

  • kenoshaMarge

    I live in Wisconsin and voted for Feingold and our Democratic Governor and now will not do so again.

  • kenoshaMarge

    Have to thank Cee for the rather ugly gloating about my Senator, Russ Feingold saying that he voted for Obama and why. That was information I needed in order for me to make some decisions. Our Governor also endorsed Obama and thus ensured that I won’t vote for him again. Ditto Feingold.

  • kenoshaMarge

    Tiger Woods is incredibly talented and actually wins because he is so good at what he does. Obama hasn’t really done much of anything except yammer on and on and on. Sorry I’m not a fan of revival meetings so his endless blather not only bores me, the messianic message scares me.

    Somethings going on here all right, millions of dimwitted people who are looking for the holy grail think they have found it in Obama. Not too long ago another set of equally dimwitted people thought they found it in George Bush.

    And FYI, the Rightwingers in Wisconsin, who voted by the thousands for Obama are laughing their asses off about how they used the open voting system in Wisconsin to help Obama win. Rightwing talk radio is bragging about it and the states largest and conservative Newspaper all but gave a how to on it’s front page just before the primary. Be prepared for the same thing to happen in Texas. These people will NOT be voted for a Democrat, any Democrat come November.

  • kenoshaMarge

    Because misogyny is alive and well and accepted throughout this country. Say the “N” word and you are an evil racist. Say the “B” word all you want. Add that to the rabid Clinton hate in the press and the so-called A-Blogs and you get anything but a level playing field.

    Guess we “girls” should just retreat to our accepted place two paces behind the dominant male.

    Lest someone be under the impression that I am one pissed off old feminist, damn right I am!

  • rjj

    one can always admire it from afar, no?

  • Cee

    Larry,

    People can’t tell Feingold A THING after the courage he has shown during his political career.

    Had he endorsed Hillary you would be saying something different.

    I continued to admire Feingold even when I disagreed with him.

  • Cee

    I am willing to bet that Feingold is not aware of the skeletons in Obama’s closet

    Sam,

    Ah, the only man who bothered to read The Patriot Act isn’t aware of the allegations against Obama?

    No chance.

  • Cee

    Marge,

    It wasn’t gloating. Larry mentioning singing

    till the fat lady sings

    I’m not allowed to sing in response because you’re angry?

    You need a break.

  • Mike Howell

    Donald from Hawaii –

    Rezko’s trial hasn’t started, yet already it’s known Barack Husein Obama hit him up for donations and a mansion.

    The Governor has already started pointing at Obama. Au contraire, Donald. We’re in for quite a show.

    78 Indictment pages full of the biggest names in Illinois. Directed by the man who brought you the Scooter Libby trial.

    By the way, if Obama did a favor for Rezko in exchange for the mansion, it’s a felony.

  • yttik

    Me too! Is it too much to ask that Obama just make a token statement against all the misogyny? Yes it is too much to ask, apparently.

    McCain gave Obama perfect opportunity when he floundered all over the place when asked “how do we beat the bitch”? Obama could have killed two birds with one stone by attacking his opponent and addressing sexism.

    If the situations were reversed, Hillary would have seen addressing that as her responsibility. She would not remain silent while her fellow Dem was racially attacked by a Republican.

  • http://bucknakedpolitics.typepad.com/buck_naked_politics/2008/02/taylor-marsh-on.html Buck Naked Politics

    Taylor Marsh on ‘The Progressive Rot at the Core of This Primary Season’…

    Posted by Damozel | Obama, considered strictly as a current presidential candidate destined to succeed George W. Bush, doesn’t impress or move me when I’m not actually listening to him speak (I concede he’s great at the rhetoric). I don’t believe h…

  • lemonv

    Why is it that they only concentrated on Hillary’s campaign expenses and did not compare it with Barack’s campaign expenses? Might be one of the smoking gun evidence of the MSM’s bias against the Clintons?

    For an unbiased look on both campaign expenses, click on this Los Angeles Times link:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-money22feb22,1,2428372.story

    Here are the some of the important highlights:

    -Since the campaigns began, Obama has spent $138.2 million and Clinton $120.9 million through Jan. 31.

    -Obama has outspent Clinton on polling, $2.8 million to $2.1 million, since the campaigns began.

    -Through the end of January, Obama also appears to have spent $35 million on the all-important category called “media,” producing and airing television spots aimed at winning over voters.

    Clinton has spent about $27 million on such spots.

    -On numerous other expenses, Clinton’s campaign seems to have outdone Obama’s. She spent $7.8 million on charter and commercial airfares, compared with his $6.4 million.

    -Clinton relies more on large fundraising events, often holding them at the mansions of wealthy donors and collecting the maximum $2,300 from people attending.

    The cost of such events is high. Campaigns end up footing the bills for catering — and she has paid $4 million for event catering to Obama’s $2.47 million.

    Clinton paid her main field organizer $220,000. Obama paid his field organizer $109,000, plus an additional $68,000 to his firm

  • attobuoy

    Gee,rosaleen, and here I thought I was pretty well informed.

    You keep using the word “charlatan” WRT Barack Obama. The word has a dictionary meaning “A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble claims to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud,”

    As Montoya said to Vizzini, “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

    So do you really mean to charge Obama with fraud? If so can you back it up?

    Anyhow, if the public is convinced that HRC is a bitch on wheels (your term), and her primary campaign hasn’t made a dent in that perception, do you really want to match her against McCain and hope that perception can be changed by election time? (And if so would you like to get together with me and a few friends for a friendly game of cards?)

  • norrismorris

    I agree with Simon. Until Chosen One’s backround is fully vetted, I cannot support him. I am a loyal life long democrat, and this is not sour grapes because I am a Hillary supporter. I’m a good enough person and smart enough democrat to want a win in ’09 no matter who is nominated.

    But, there are a lot of Buts. Start with Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor and mentor who recently awarded Lois Farrakhan with special honors as an especially incandescent individual.
    Yes. This for Farrakhan who has trashed both Jews and Judasim openly and often. Obama has distanced himself from Wright of late, but this is the church and pastor he calls friend and home.

    There’s the filthy stuff in the Chicago slime political machine starting with the manner Obama was mentored and then clawed his way into Ill. Senate; his patronage from fundraiser/slumlord Tony Rezko,along with the moneylaundering Iraq scheme Rezko was jailed for & awaits trial on 2/25. Previous to Rezko’s arrest he had been indicted pending trial for kickbacks, fraud, and corruption. Rezko was Obama’s fundraiser that enabled both of his Senate elections, and have known each other for 17 years.

    There are many issues that relate to character,honesty, & affiliations to black anarchist organizations, his ties with Rezko and the sweetheart real estste deal he accepted from felon Rezko. And the connection to a former Weatherman and Obama donor, Ayres.

    There is much vetting that democrats have not been afforded. So, are we waiting for Rove and the GOP to do this for us? I feel that democrats need to know more about the awesome awesomness and find out what The Precious is all about.

  • norrismorris

    Schultz is plainly an opportunist getting free airtime on shows that encourage Hillary Hating, Inspite of Clinton’s support, he’s backing Obama as he wants the tailwind of a winner.

    Throwing Hillary under the bus is a loathsome tactic that only a loathsome ingrate like Schultz would do.

    He’s just hawking his radio talk and getting any attention he can grab.

  • http://nobloodforhubris.blogspot.com No Blood for Hubris

    wethornet: |(talent but a false public persona)”

    You have the Karl Rove propaganda machine and the all too willing media whore media to thank for this. The image they have created is what is false.

    And people like you, who should know better, are still buying it.

    Why?

  • Cee

    For those who think that there may yet be a surprise in Ohio and Texas and that Hillary’s moving final comments in the debates will pull off another New Hampsire-like outcome, all I can say is that The Washington Note has learned that a senior Clinton campaign adviser — not on the political side — is already out looking for a job

    http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/

  • norrismorris

    Simon, thanks for your comment. It isn’t unusual to see people behaving badly, especially in politics.

    Russ made a choice as to where he thinks his next support is going to come from. Totally opportunistic.
    I expect to see more of this support for Obama who inspite of his zero ability and experience,
    is being given the ok before they know if he’s ok.

    We are dealing with a body of elected
    officials who always manage to behave like jackals
    and cowards. They’ve been losers for years and now see salvation for their party, no matter what.

    It is possible that the GOP will smackdown and emphasize the skeletons. The democrats appear not to want any part of this. You can count on Obama’s camp to cry race card with every relevation.

    If the press thinks Precious will be President…they will protect him to cover their own asses and insure access.

    It ain’t encouraging.

  • Simon

    If the press thinks Precious will be President…they will protect him to cover their own asses and insure access.

    I was thinking that, too.

    The one thing the republicans and democrats have in common is deep corruption.

    Today, a link was made between Harkin Oil, Rezko, and Obama, on rezkowatch…

  • Simon

    People can’t tell Feingold A THING after the courage he has shown during his political career.

    Sure they can.

    Don’t tacitly support terrorists, Russ.

    How much didya get?

  • Simon

    I unsubcribed from Feingold’s list yesterday. Just in time to get the news he voted for Obama

    I will do this today, or the next time he asks for money.

    Too too bad.

  • TeakWoodKite

    …and elicits avoidance.

    Only if one is….
    Lazy.

    I “hope” I see what you are getting at. :) For me;Being competent leads to confidence; which is a key to getting the work done “right” the first time.

  • Simon

    I urge anyone who, in the heat of this ugly campaign, thinks of giving up on Russ Feingold to read about the Senator and what he’s done for us in D.C. He is a good man.

    The problem being, though, Obama is filthy, with ties to those who might be responsible for terrorism, in the US, and the world. In addition, at the very least, Obama is corrupt, through Daley, and in no way should be President.

    Why is Feingold advocating for a man SO unqualified to hold the nation’s highest elected office? It makes me question his ability to make a good decision, to see things as they are, or, it says to me, he’s getting something, and now he’s tainted, too. There is no way to win by endorsing Obama, period.

    The damage Bush has done is indescribable, and now Feingold is backing the democratic Bush?

    No.

  • TeakWoodKite

    It was my understanding that the Pay of Bigs Operation was planned under the previous admin which had given it a green light. Kenndey was in a BIG power struggle with the JCS and was not originally in favor of it.

    This is a serious point, when considering how the military brass reacts to a president they have no respect for and even less desire to work with.

    Another cuban cigar and a walk down a street somewhere in Florida with trepidation expressed by a military friend.

    BTW: I enjoyed you relating your experience re: Obama….

  • http://www.despair.com/bitterness.html Smilin’ Jim

    “……and very sad. poignant. sad because wtf is the “block” that prevents her from being that way in public?”

    There is no block. It is there for everyone to see as in her wind-up of the last Texas debate with the yuppy.

    There is a filter, though, because her words were reported NOT as a warm and heartfelt, human response but by writers TO A MAN who described it as her farewell to the campaign.

    To Time-Warner, Newscorp, Viacom and Disney Hillary’s glass will always be half empty.

  • Patrick Henry

    SIMON…Thanks for all the interesting posts you put up here…and your participat5ion in the Debates going here..we can caount on you for opinion and interpretation too..

    POINT…We have to asswume by this point..with examples like Fiengold etc…that People whoi have been waithing and watching..are taking sides more aqnd more…the really Cautious and FOX Instincts will wait til after Texas..or then Ohio…Thats what their Backers and MONEY..MONEY…MONEY..(Put to Music) People are tel;ling them to do..for Power and Influence down the Line…

    There are still good politicians and people out there…Who are INTELLIGENT and Alert…and Will Support Hillary..becuase we..and THEY Know she is the Most vetted…reliable and qUALIFIED AT THIS TIME TO BE PRESIDENT…because she is a known MODEWRATE..who can support both Domestic and Foreign PROBLEMS when she has too..and with great Sensitivity..and Experience..if she has to respond to..so called..LEFT WING Issues ..which means she is a PROGRESSIVE ..who is sensitive to the Condition Burdening the people …and has Compassion enough to care..as Contrasted by the Bush Administration response to katrtina Victims and other Socail issues and Problems..

    They can’t respond..becuasae they DON’T CARE..

    Hillary is very Smart on Foreign Policy Issues…Knows Most of the Players..Understands the PROBLEMS..and Most of PLAYERS…Knows its a PLAYING FIELD..and That the GAMES Get Bloody..

    I Hope that my State Senators and Congressman..CONTINUE to Support Hillary..I consider ALL of them to be SMART..to Be GOOD PRESENTATIVES.. to Have INTEGRITY..and to be Good Democrats…who know what Hillary has Done for the Nation and the PARTY..

  • Patrick Henry

    God..when will I ever learn to Edit my Comments..??

    SORRY Susan..

  • http://www.despair.com/bitterness.html Smilin’ Jim

    “He was calling for Clinton to drop out now, and said this wasn’t about Clinton, it was what was good for the Democratic Party.”

    He isn’t the first and he won’t be the last. Move on.

    Most of us know that the Republicans are gong to rapidly deflate the Prince of Platitudes and that McCain is the obvious winner of another McGovern/Mondale debacle, at best a Kerry loss. Knowing this, it really doesn’t make much sense to worry about the “good of the party”, what are you going to do, rearrange the rubble?
    I’d keep Clinton in the race until the convention.

    This is my reasoning:

    By mid-May the delegates from the rest of the primaries will be chump change and the media, if they do not find another Terri Shiavo or Anna Nicole Smith to bird-dog, will be left to focus on Obama without the benefit of the cheering morons. Three months of staring into that vacuum is going to prompt them to dig for a better story just to keep their minds from tuning to pabulum, stories like the ones that you nice folks have been flogging Johnson about plastering all over the blog.

    The superdelegates will flock to Obama if he does well in Texas and is not trounced to thoroughly in Ohio. They are still political animals, though, and if no one can find a “there” there in Obama by convention time OR if the Republicans screw up and do it for them, the feckless bastards will troop back. AND

    One—- We get to have a real convention.

    Two— You nominate Clinton after the Republicans have spent the last three month’s resources beating the living Jesus out of Obama.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Obama is filthy

    You mean “corrupt” and not his personal hygiene, I take it?

  • Simon

    You mean “corrupt” and not his personal hygiene, I take it?

    One and the same…

    As far as Clinton goes, I understand there may be skeletons in her closet, too, it isn’t a matter of giving “my candidate” (who was Edwards, btw) a free ride.

    Ultimately, this is about corruption, democrats and republicans taking money from those who would harm our national security, bottom line.

    And terrorists kill, kill those least able to protect themselves.

    For American politicans to enable this system, it’s cancer, to our country.

  • TeakWoodKite

    As far as Clinton goes, I understand there may be skeletons in her closet,

    There should be a “Google Skeletons” similar to Google Earth, I think Hillary, at a minimum, has the (RC2) ready to go.

    Regarding Edwards: Why so quiet you think?
    I would still be stumping for the issues he cares about at least “keepin ‘em honest”.

  • http://www.despair.com/bitterness.html Smilin’ Jim

    Christ, did you shoot Bambi and Thumper as well?

  • Badger

    Ironically enough, rosaleen, my mom was Japanese. I do remember a story about a badger who used to turn into a teakettle. And I always loved Badger in “The Wind and The Willows”.

    You’re welcome regarding the links.

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