Obamadroids Frantic over DLC Endorsers

Kagro who?

Why waste bandwidth on

a. Some loser at the keyboard in his bathrobe OR
b. Some loser defrauding his employer?

Its not just Hillery who losing this race, its also the people who are supporting her. Wow, after reading some of this stuff, it reminds me of that GOP dick who said if people dont wear the little flag pin, then it means they are “commies”. I never thought Democrats would be this nasty. LOL.

Ah, but he is a big-time blogger at DailyKos and elsewhere! He matters! (If he weren’t influential, you can count on the fact that Big Tent Democrat would never bother with him.)

THE POINT of this is that the ‘droids are so busy worshipping that they haven’t vetted their guy. And it’s starting to hit them. That Obama will consort with anyone to get ahead — hell, JOE LIEBERMAN was his hand-picked MENTOR when he entered the Senate in 2005. Jesus.

And tt really helps that this guy endorses Obama too!

A Spry Farrakhan Sings Obama’s Praises

Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:00 PM

In his first major public address since a cancer crisis, Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan said Sunday that presidential candidate Barack Obama is the “hope of the entire world” that the U.S. will change for the better.

The 74-year-old Farrakhan, addressing an estimated crowd of 20,000 people at the annual Saviours’ Day celebration, never outrightly endorsed Obama but spent most of the nearly two-hour speech praising the Illinois senator.

“This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better,” he said. “This young man is capturing audiences of black and brown and red and yellow. If you look at Barack Obama’s audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed.”

Farrakhan compared Obama to the religion’s founder, Fard Muhammad, who also had a white mother and black father.

“A black man with a white mother became a savior to us,” he told the crowd of mostly followers. “A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.” …

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/farrakhan_saviours_day/2008/02/24/75173.html?s=al&promo_code=45D0-1

You were either a wannabe zygote or in day care during the “Stop McGovern” phase of the ’72 campaign.

“He matters!”

His touch on my life is one of the greatest unreported events in the Twenty-first Century.

Heh. Probably one of Generation Next. Needs babying, Simon. You are too mean.

“Here’s more Goolsbee news by way of ronkseattle, noting first that the top economic spokesman for and senior policy advisor to Obama is the DLC’s Senior Economist.
June 19, 2006
Austan Goolsbee Joins DLC and PPI as Senior Economist
WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) and the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI) are pleased to announce that Austan Goolsbee, the Robert P. Gwinn Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago, has agreed to become Senior Economist to both organizations.”
-myDD

This Kagor X character is nothing more than a lightweight marketing stiff who failed at becoming an attorney and as a DC operative. So now he vents on a faceless blog.

What I did find on Daily Kos to be humorous was a blog by Napolean himself – Sir Markos – where he evidently is taking credit for the Obama sensation and his ascendency to the nomination.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/22/13412/1135/19/461693

We must build long term, in every state, toward a solid future progressive majority.

We can help downticket races, even in states where our presidential nominee won’t likely win.

And we need to run up the popular vote.

What is striking about it is that it was not too long ago that Daily Kos was heavily endorsing John Edwards and had no use for Obama. So they could not get Edwards elected or even Ned LaMont, but Markos believes his clan is what is putting Obama over the top.

Obama keeps bringing up NAFTA and its chief proponent is his economic advisor. Must be some of that change he’s talking about.

Unfortunately, I had to leave TalkLeft. They filter too much content, and the final straw was when the blog founder came down on me calling Obama OBABA (and yes I took offense to it, because when my post at another site that used that word was pulled and called “racist”, that was the final straw), despite every name known for McCain was spewed. Double standards don’t play too well with me, either accept all little “affectionate” names for candidates or bar them all. One can’t be “racist” if the other isn’t, being White doesn’t mean it can’t be “racist” or ethnically insensitive (just ask the Irish how much they’re insulted alone). It’s the principle of the thing.

Seriously, never heard of the dude.

Spengler of atimes have a fairly interesting take on Barack Obama. True or not it will probably be a part of the GE. If nothing else the repubs will spread the meme.

http://atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

Obama profiles Americans the way anthropologists interact with primitive peoples. He holds his own view in reserve and emphatically draws out the feelings of others; that is how friends and colleagues describe his modus operandi since his days at the Harvard Law Review, through his years as a community activist in Chicago, and in national politics. Anthropologists, though, proceed from resentment against the devouring culture of America and sympathy with the endangered cultures of the primitive world. Obama inverts the anthropological model: he applies the tools of cultural manipulation out of resentment against America. The probable next president of the United States is a mother’s revenge against the America she despised.

Ann Dunham died in 1995, and her character emerges piecemeal from the historical record, to which I will return below. But Michelle Obama is a living witness. Her February 18 comment that she felt proud of her country for the first time caused a minor scandal, and was hastily qualified. But she meant it, and more. The video footage of her remarks shows eyes hooded with rage as she declares:

For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment.

The desperation, frustration and disappointment visible on Michelle Obama’s face are not new to the candidate’s wife; as Steve Sailer, Rod Dreher and other commentators have noted, they were the theme of her undergraduate thesis, on the subject of “blackness” at Princeton University. No matter what the good intentions of Princeton, which founded her fortunes as a well-paid corporate lawyer, she wrote, “My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my ‘Blackness’ than ever before. I have found that at Princeton no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my White professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don’t belong.”

Never underestimate the influence of a wife who bitch-slaps her husband in public. Early in Obama’s campaign, Michelle Obama could not restrain herself from belittling the senator. “I have some difficulty reconciling the two images I have of Barack Obama. There’s Barack Obama the phenomenon. He’s an amazing orator, Harvard Law Review, or whatever it was, law professor, best-selling author, Grammy winner. Pretty amazing, right? And then there’s the Barack Obama that lives with me in my house, and that guy’s a little less impressive,” she told a fundraiser in February 2007.

“For some reason this guy still can’t manage to put the butter up when he makes toast, secure the bread so that it doesn’t get stale, and his five-year-old is still better at making the bed than he is.” New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd reported at the time, “She added that the TV version of Barack Obama sounded really interesting and that she’d like to meet him sometime.” Her handlers have convinced her to be more tactful since then.

“Frustration” and “disappointment” have dogged Michelle Obama these past 20 years, despite her US$300,000 a year salary and corporate board memberships. It is hard for the descendants of slaves not to resent America. They were not voluntary immigrants but kidnap victims, subjected to a century of second-class citizenship even after the Civil War ended slavery. Blackness is not the issue; General Colin Powell, whose parents chose to immigrate to America from the West Indies, saw America just as other immigrants do, as a land of opportunity. Obama’s choice of wife is a failsafe indicator of his own sentiments. Spouses do not necessarily share their likes, but they must have their hatreds in common. Obama imbibed this hatred with his mother’s milk.

Michelle Obama speaks with greater warmth of her mother-in-law than of her husband. “She was kind of a dreamer, his mother,” Michelle Obama was quoted in the January 25 Boston Globe. “She wanted the world to be open to her and her children. And as a result of her naivete, sometimes they lived on food stamps, because sometimes dreams don’t pay the rent. But as a result of her naivete, Barack got to see the world like most of us don’t in this country.” How strong the ideological motivation must be of a mother to raise her children on the thin fair of government assistance in pursuit of a political agenda.

“Naivete” is a euphemism for Ann Dunham’s motivation. Friends describe her as a “fellow traveler”, that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report. Many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice. Ann Dunham met and married the Kenyan economics student Barack Obama, Sr, at the University of Hawaii in 1960, and in 1967 married the Indonesian student Lolo Soetero. It is unclear why Soetero’s student visa was revoked in 1967 – the fact but not the cause are noted in press accounts. But it is probable that the change in government in Indonesia in 1967, in which the leftist leader Sukarno was deposed, was the motivation.

“This young man is capturing audiences of black and brown and red and yellow”

What? Just because I am green I don’t count?
(Oops I almost forgot…I am not from this planet…)

I don’t look at DK anymore, but I think I read somewhere that BLue Majority is polling among DK, Open Left and Swing State Project to decide whether they should endorse a candidate now or wait until the general election.

Voting is apparently heavily in favor of now v. later – big surprise. They can do whatever they want, of course, but this whole thing about needing to be on the bandwagon du jour is getting tiresome and making me lose respect for and interest in Democratic advocacy groups.

Kargo X?

I just knew him by name from Kos, never struck me as particularly insightful, or a must read.

Trite writer, nothing new or creative, right?

I think Obama’s candidacy has been good in a way for the Democratic party, because he has inadvertently exposed a bunch of fakes, junior goose steppers and lightweights in the progressive movement.

And the sheer hatred that the progressive movement has showered upon Hillary is in a class by itself. Never in my 30 years of watching politics have a I seen such a ugly hate based movement occur before.

And its all being generated by the same progressive folks who decried the politics of hate that has been the stock and trade of Rove, Limbaugh, Medved and Coulter.

I agree that this campaign has divided Democratic advocacy groups.

Regarding DKos I don’t think they represent anything than a very small minority of people who are angry and maladjusted. Given his record I am not sure there is any value to having a DKos endorsement. As I said it was not long ago that Edwards was their favorite candidate.

I agree rwc. What has been revealed by some of the so called “progressive movement” in the last few months has really opened my eyes. The values that many talked about turned out to be less than an inch thick. The crap thrown at the Clintons has be disgusting. I’ve deleted most of the blogosphere. It has been like a new beginning. Happily, I found this place and some others. The way I view the ‘A-list” blogs now is the way I view the stuff under a trash can when you pick it up on a hot summer day. I think out of this a real progressive community is going to emerge, and it is going to scare the s— of the blog boyz and the Dem DLC.

There is a *VERY* important piece in today’s Op-Eds by
Geraldine Ferraro about the role of superdelegates and Fl & MI. She makes a well reasoned argument but b/c she is a Clinto supporter there have been more than 500 comments on ther piece by angry Obama supporters insulting her and her intelligence. PLEASE DON’T LET
ALL COMMENTS BE SO NEGATIVE AND DOMINATED BY OBAMA SUPPORTERS ONLY. Let your voice hear. This is an important piece !!!! Registration in the NYT is free.
Please contribute with your comments ASAP and as many as you can.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/25/opinion/25ferraro.html?hp

Hurry before they close the comments.

I endorsed Obama? Link please.

Do I know that Obama has adopted DLC positions? Sure. Do I want the DLC to profit by it? No, I do not.

Unusual?

Raise your hand if you want to see the DLC come back to prominence?

Anything that divorces the DLC from either Obama or Clinton is worth saying, in my book.

Why this baffles, I have no idea. Except that you’re anxious to fight for your candidate, which is great and all, but what’s missing here is the guts to your premise: i.e., that I’m a big Obama supporter.

Bring out you links. Show everyone my head-over-heels Obamamania.

Comments on a little-read NYT blog are irrelevant, because Michael Jordan has joined the team, and Hillary’s down to her Tonya Harding card. And even if she uses it, on her own teammate, it’s not clear she actually *can* break his knee.

That is a thin ice point of view. What a card.
Where have you been? Senator Obama has demontrated he not a team player. Just Arogant.

“Never in my 30 years of watching politics have a I seen such a ugly hate based movement occur before”

Stop McGovern, ’72 etc., etc., etc.

No one cares.

As I said it was not long ago that Edwards was their favorite candidate

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Due to the Obamamania, many of kos’ readers left.

Some of us are here, others went elsewhere, kos kinda kooked out.

The Obama klan appears emotionally maladjusted, WTH would anyone psychologically healthy want to capitalize on hate, and division, or for that matter, a losing strategy.

That’s why most of us becamse democrats, we didn’t like Kos when he was a republican, either.

Look! KagroX has puddled over from kos to be laughed at.

Everyone grab their popcorn while he whines about links (of which Susan has provided above). Like people here give a shit about your outrage, KX.

O.K all you Clinton devotees Bill Clinton just packed the house at the Athens Ohio Community Center. Still not sure why the Clinton team does not reserve bigger buildings for these events. The people line went for blocks…many did not get in.

As always Bill was clear, concise, hit all of the topics (even said a few words about the Israeli Palestinian conflict) He did not say enough about diplomacy with Iran for me, but what else is new. Damn that guy is good ….beyond brilliant. He explained in much detail certain parts of Hillary’s plan. The crowd was really diverse in age not so much in race (southeastern Ohio is damn white) although there were quite a few International students there from Ohio University.

Afterwards I stood with several of my friends. Maryann (also 55) who is a hydrologist for the EPA in southeastern Ohio is all about Hillary and Bill. When I mentioned the Kyl Lieberman amendment she knew nothing about it and was sorry to hear that Hillary had voted for it, but that was not going to change her vote.

Larry, Susan and all another friend Isabel who is from Peru and a professor of Art has always been a Kucinich supporter is leaning more towards Hillary than Obama. She is a tough nut to crack (well informed and feisty as hell) and even I was surprised that she was more on Hillary’s bus more than Obama. She feels that she does not know enough about how Obama stands on issues…Interesting

Susan I wore a gorilla suit (really nice one) outside the building and held a sign that said ” The 800lb gorilla in the Presidential debates is the Israeli Palestinian conflict” Who knows may make the news. I could not believe the secret service let me in with this suit on. Although one of the local cops told him I was one of the good gals. It was actually pretty funny.

Every indication is that Hillary is going to kick some ass in Ohio. An attorney friend and I may go up to the Obama rally in Columbus Ohio on Wednesday at the Woody Hayes auditorium. We want to witness the Obamarama phenomena up close.

Will let you know

Real progressives don’t hate, only the astroturf.

The astroturf is orange.

I have been thinking how I hate that this race is made up of two first. Woman and African American. Wonder what the reasons were for Obama not waiting for eight years? Did he think he would have too much on his record?

The way I view the ‘A-list” blogs now is the way I view the stuff under a trash can when you pick it up on a hot summer day

I agree, again, it’s symptomatic of young, and old narcissism, common to both parties.

And I’ve been reading, funny enough, turns out Obama and Bush have a common Arab benefactors, big money benefactors, those connected to BCCI, and Arab oil wealth.

That spider web of Middle Eastern finance and money laundering is fascinating, I get the impression it’s a world wide web of half wit narcissistic crooks, spreading money, arms and drugs like a dose of the clap.

And the clap makes you feeble minded, right?

Both democrats, and republicans.

There’s a song by nick lowe called “dose of you” and I think of Tony Rezko, and Obama every time I hear it: “I caught a dose of you, tonight…”

I wonder what McCain was doing in Russia, was it a couple of months ago?

None of the links are to anything I said about endorsing Obama.

You won’t find any, because I didn’t do it.

Oh noes!!!1

Bring out you links. Show everyone my head-over-heels Obamamania.

No one cares really, we just like to mock you.

Ot

Listening to this now at Democracy Now
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/25/u
s_backed_turkish_invasion_of_northern

U.S.-Backed Turkish Invasion of Northern Iraq Continues

The oil pipeline from Kirkuk to Tel Aviv
http://www.lookingglassnews.org/printerfriendly.php?storyid=4766

Iraq pipeline watch
http://www.iags.org/iraqpipelinewatch.htm

Kirkuk, Turkey and oil
http://www.upi.com/International_Security/Energy/Analysis/2007/11/06/analysis_kurds_say_kirkuk_is_turkeys_aim/2497/

None of the links are to anything I said about endorsing Obama.

You won’t find any, because I didn’t do it.

OMG, they whine in unison, too.

This is the best you have, a retread of the republican troll mechanism?

Which explains your support for Obama, I guess.

Get a clue, nobody gives a shit about you, stop trying to hijack the thread.

Kos is a joke.

I’m not frantic. Obama has a big tent.

Don’t anyone start making desert or camel jokes. LOL!!

As always Bill was clear, concise, hit all of the topics (even said a few words about the Israeli Palestinian conflict)

Kathleen, what did he say?

Did he give you any insight as to how Hillary might handle the issue?

Thank you…

Ali-bama?

That picture…

nah just mentioned how the Bush administration had done little over the last seven years in regard to the I/P issue and that negotiations and peace talks needed to be focused on immediately. Bill was far more detailed about Health care, education and domestic issues than International issues.

Hey one thing that I heard that I had not heard before was that those individuals who could not afford the mandated payments for health care (under Hillary’s plan) would receive funds to take care of those health care cost I believe via tax returns that would be then fed into the health care system.

One old friend of mine an 86 year old Professor of History (Professor Whealey) has said that Hillary’s health care plan is solid. Professor Whealey was at the rally and is supporting HIllary (I will be talking with him in more detail soon)

Mr. Murder,

May I have the name of the NAFTA dude/BO advisor? I would like to check it out, I had no idea and there is NAFTA NAFTA NAFTA from their camp all over OH…

He thinks deficits matter. He thinks companies have a morality problem:

The evidence shows that companies are particularly likely to raise prices when the government is footing the bill… It’s not your grandpa’s moral hazard anymore.

This appears to be his “thing”? In doing a quick look at some of his work, Obama’s current econ plan appears to be totally Mr. Goolsbee’s ideas. I have no problem with this. It suggests that with Obama, we would actually get people who’s qualifications actually match the job assigned.http://angrybear.blogspot.com/2008/01/austan-goolsbee-obamas-econ-man.html

A Spry Farrakhan Sings Obama’s Praises

Thank God that we live in a free country where people can decide who they support and aren’t killed for it…yet.

Ann Coulter is still alive after saying she would campaign for Hillary isn’t she?

It has really nothing to do with the PKK. Usually the Turkish government waits for early spring, when the snow melts, and with this attack, it has only—what it has done is destroy a couple of bridges, what it has done is destroy a couple of the villages, and the fires are up in the mountains, are in the caves. There’s no specific address. It’s to draw the attention to the fact that the Kurdistan regional government is becoming stronger and what to do to undermine it.

The above quote is from democracy now.

I hate when Bush plays Pentagon, the little general.

This will come back to hit them in the face, it always does.

Ultimately, it’s about oil, and power and narcissistic government creeps, one more stupid than the next.

As opposed to trying to build some level of rational discourse, and threrfore solidfy control, Bush, and Cheney, and rest of those morons just send more guns, or money, or troop support, simplistic GI Joe tripe.

This appears oil related, and the more that is brought to light in terms of all the dirty money, and the players involved, the more it is understood WHY these little wars keep increasing,and why the US involves itself, when it clearly shoudln’t, other than in the role of peacemaker. We hurt the US when we play stupidly, and that’s all those neocon morons know, internecine warfare. Shitheads.

At this point, Clinton is the only one who would put a stop to this, IMO, change course, McCain and Obama are financially vested with parties who have an interest in violence, if only out of fear, and ignorance.

Which might explain the press and Clinton, too.

It’s oil, arms, and drugs, some nations have a legitimate interest in solidifing their position, strategically, but for others it’s the illegal aspects which fuel this war mentality, the mob, illegal activities, dirty politicians and business men, international turf wars, say, it’s a free for all, esp when a govt aligns itself with the Russian or Chinese mafia. It should not involve the US army protecting a small group of crooks.

Again, this goes back to Sybil Edmonds tape, and boy, she wasn’t translating a bunch of rocket scientists, was she?

These people appear to be morons.

Louis Freeh took care of the mob, in NY, a huge RICO case, right?

And this is that case, on steriods, I think.

Oh, woe is me. Nobody gives a shit about me. Why ever would I read a blog and comment on it the way you do?

I thought I’d give Susan a chance to make her case.

That Simon — Simon! — doesn’t want her to isn’t of any more interest to me than I am to him.

This was a ploy by Coulter – same thing Rove said about Dean – a misdirection by the Republicans. However, Farrakhan’s endorsement is truly toxic.

Oh noes!!!1

pL34Z3 c0nTaIn teH SiM0n!!!1

those connected to BCCI? INPUT!

Kathleen,

Seek out the Seymour Hersh article titled Plan B.
I posted it here a few days ago and it was lost in the shouting.
You’ll start to make a connection to the violence that Turkey is now involved in.

The presiding judge at Tony Rezko’s upcoming corruption trial (March 3d) started issuing her pre-trial evidentiary rulings today and I’m thinking the DLC is the least of things our Obama friends are going to be fretting about.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/812207,morerez022508.article

And if this link didn’t work (because I’m old and generally Luddite by nature), just check out the Chicago Sun-Times online.

Kargo i read your diary at dkos … a real sacrifice on my part due to the fact i personally could give a big fat rat’s ass about what most the kos community is pimping. do i care who you decide to endorse … nope … cant say that i do … and i feel you are posing a bit of a straw man argument. your diary was a best a bit over the top and i will be happy to tell you why.

first, isnt it ironic that during an election cycle you would attempt to pare any candidate’s potential voter base. this is exactly what you are doing with your rhetoric … throwing out potential democratic voters cause they may not be pure enough for you. damn, that is a gop tactic. your point about obama supporting some of the DLC positions and your fear the DLC will take credit in some nefarious manner leads me to believe you dont want his supporters to be aware of how his thinking has been influenced by them and others. other then your obvious disdain for the DLC this makes no sense.

finally, i’m no harold ford fan … far from it … but i do recall a dark day in history when a gop congresswoman called jack murtha a coward while making a speech in the well of the house. the words were hardly out of her mouth, when an angry democrat charged the well and told her she had shamed herself, her party and the house. that congressmen was harold ford … DLC or not, the man did not forget his respect for a fellow congressman or the democratic party. this may mean nothing in the long run but it certainly garnered a bit of respect from me …

I’ve been quoting RonK Seattle a lot here…. he’s a very smart man who gives “no quarter,” especially to fake Democrats who pander to the ‘wingers.

UTTERLY fascinating. Must read it all.

Yeah, i have seen that hatred in Michelle Obama’s eyes. Her eyes frighten me. They remind me a bit of Condi’s eyes. Very cold. Harsh.

I heard a bit about a passage in one of Barack’s novels, er autobiographies … that he’d lean down to kiss her cheek and she’d turn her face away. For a long time.

A friend has said that that’s why he has a hard time with Hillary: She’s another woman who challenges him, bridles him. He can’t deal with it well. His reaction? Misogyny. Which gets allowed these days, tragically.

Ali-bama?

Yes, children, the Sheik Of Bed, Bath & Beyond is really from Mobile.

Checking out at my local grocvery store in Akron, Ohio, I ran into my favorite cashier, Curtis. She is 55, black, and liberal as the day is long. She took one look at me and stated, “If THEY put Obama up for the nomination, it will be the first time in my life that I will not vote in the general election. What the hell are these people thinking?”

This is typical here in Ohio. Don’t believe the “HRC is slipping in Ohio polls” meme.

She’s gonna swamp BO here in Ohio!

This Rovian strategy of accusing the other camp of doing exactly what you intend to do, combined with appealing to the worst instincts of the American electorate, is exactly what Obama can expect to encounter from the Republican machine.

It is the final barrier; the final vetting. Clinton has hit Obama with every other attack possible but the Black/Muslim smear. This last is what Hillary means by “Obama isn’t vetted.” So let’s vet him and get it over with. That neither Obama nor any of the other Democratic candidates have gone this route against Clinton (e.g., Vince Foster or Chelsea Hubbell rumors) even when things looked hopeless for their campaigns is a testament to their collective character. Let us demonstrate once and for all who our friends really are in the Democratic Party.

And, more importantly, let us demonstrate that the American people can respond to the better angels of our nature and reject the gutter politics being pushed by the Clinton campaign just as surely as we can reject it from the Republicans.

Yes, we can.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/25/143555/409/944/463819

Whoa…a Hillary supporter accusing someone *else* of not being a team player? Wow.

“Obama supporters, you’re all idiots who expect the sky to open!!!” Yeah, that’s some kind of team play!! Was Hillary filling stadia with tens of thousands of supporters until big bad Obama took them away from her? No. Not hardly.

It’s a no-brainer that a lot of right-wing mouth-breathers would stop running trains on their sheep long enough to slouch on over toward the polls and vote against Hillary. Maybe a certain number would rediscover their inner Klansmen in response to an Obama candidcy and do likewise, but that is not at all clear, as racism is the hate that, increasingly, dare not speak its name. And Obama will at least energize a lot of supporters along with however many tobacco-chewing hydrocephalics.

And “arrogant?” Are you telling me that Ms. Inevitability isn’t arrogant???

Again, wow.

I have no clue, really. But the reason *I’m* glad he’s not waiting is that I don’t think we can afford to wait while *another* Clinton triangulates away the Dem majorities in Congress again and inspires yet another wave of voters to be completely disgusted with the party and allow the Pig People to take over all three branches of the Gov’t again. What, in her record, makes you think she would have nonnegative coattails?

This whole thing about first woman, first black, — it’s all wankery. I want to see leadership, and Hillary’s acting like everybody’s least-favorite third-grade teacher. A tailor-made, well-honed hate group aimed at you personally is not an asset. She says she’s battle-tested and knows how to handle the crap people throw at her because they’ve been doing it for a good while and she’s “still here.” Well hell, where was she going to go? And she may be “still here,” but she still has a whole lot of that crap sticking to her. Sorry folks, but that’s the ugly truth.

Is this one of those Tom Friedman “wisdom of the cabdriver” stories? Sheesh.

I think the flop sweat we all saw popping out on the foreheads of you and the rest of the bandwagon babies is because you realized that the heavy DLC involvement among people associated with the campaign, and their clear attraction to the Obama candidacy, represents a big threat to the myth that Obama is a big-time progressive.

He’s not, and we already know he’s not, so you can spare us all the confrontational comments.

We don’t expect you to be able to actually see the extent of the mania that has taken over DK, because you are part of it, but we are a tad embarrassed for you.

That’s awesome. When I try to organize my precinct and run into all the people who won’t vote for Obama because they’re afraid he’s going to start WWIII in Pakistan, won’t vote for him because he’s run an unbelievably divisive campaign sucking up to Republicans and slamming Democrats including the reigning President, I’ll tell them “Hey, no, no, Obama doesn’t just do the Republicans’ job for them and repeat Rovian talking points. You never heard him accuse Hillary of murdering Vince Foster, didja? What restraint, what a saint, see his tactics do really match his rhetoric. If you establish unbelievably low standards of behavior, he CAN meet them! Woot!”

Dewar,

LOL!!

Maggie better slink into the background and stop covering for Hillary again.
People will talk. Wait…the GOP is prepared to bring up Maggie and Vince Foster again.

I agree, I want leadership, so all eyes are on our man to see if he’ll choose today to hide in the rest room or vote “present.”

“A tailor-made, well-honed hate group aimed at you personally is not an asset”

Well, then we might as well quit fielding candidates entirely, because as long as we’re running against Republicans that’s exactly what any candidate with a d after his name will face. By the time they’re though with Obama, he’s going to be the most hated man in America in addition to losing in a landslide. He’s already alienating Democrats in droves, he’s weak as hell in teh states we can win, and the real savaging hasn’t even started.

Obama is like a used car saleman. He has painted himself as innocent and pure. Obama is anything but that and the American media has given him a free ride. It’s about time he is exposed.

If Obama is the Democratic candidate, I will cross party lines for the first time since registering to vote.

Dewar,

You’re still a funny guy.

CBS POLL: Obama Surges Ahead Nationally; Opens Up 16-Point Lead…

AP Poll: Obama Catches Clinton Across USA…

Are you people for real? Considering the fact that Barack’s been trying to trying to recruit Republicans to cross party lines to vote for him and then go right back to their own party for months, in between telling the world how bad the Clinton years were (hey, think McCain will make an ad on that: this idiot thinks the 90′s were a disaster, now he wnats to bring teh Democrats, by hs own admission, a failed, party, back to powe–vote for me!) yeah he’s team player. If we define team as the Obama vanity Campaign Party. It’ll be ever more obvious when he’s outside the DNC tazing FL and Mi delegates and supporting democracy. (And I’d bet anything I own that he’ll taze with one hand and try to cast HIMSELF in the mantle of Fanny Lou Hamer with the other.)

“Miss Inevitability”? Hmmm. Is that code for “how dare someone with inappropriately shaped genetalia challenge the Almighty’s only begotten son? Did she make the sun shine, did she make the birds sing”? I wonder what you and your hero would be saying about her if she hadn’t even gotten to lunch on her first day in the Senate before starting her campaign? No, it’s okay. I can guess.

OMG, Michael Jordan, really???? Screw you policy wonks, we hold rallies in stadiums! “Reading” is as so over as “knowing stuff.” People cheer for our NOSE BLOWING! Rallies are awesome! And if people get sick of boring, empty rhetoric and we can’t find a word as cool as “Change” in the thesaurus, we have a second choice candidate in reserve–MARY KATE OLSEN’s BROTHER! And he’ll be supported by Blue from Blue’s Clues!

It’s a great mystery why any of this inspires ridicule. Thank god you’ll have a long 4-8 years to figure it out (hint: Jojo is cooler than Blue, but whatever you do, stay away from the Brain, only invite Pinky. I hear the Brain gets into policy deeper than the Narf level, and what would Eli Manning say?).

I feel bad for her. She didn’t ask for any of this, and god forbid he gets the nomination, she’s going to be torn to shreds right along with him.

“A friend of mine told me how the Marines train people in hand-to-hand combat,” says retired Über-consultant Bob Shrum. “If your opponent has a weapon and you don’t, you pick up an ashtray, a lamp, a chair, anything you can, and keep throwing stuff. It seems to me that’s what the Clinton campaign is doing.”

http://nymag.com/news/politics/powergrid/44457/index1.ht

Voting “present.” A strategic move which, since evidently you haven’t been keeping up, was worked out with Planned Parenthood, a fact that has been repeated in the last week or so by a NOW representative who switched her endorsement from Clinton to Obama based on the disingenuous Clinton spin on this factoid.

But thanks for playing.

If your opponent has a weapon
In hand to hand combat your opponent is the weapon. The martial aspect of NQ is central in disarming such an adversary. This will always be the case.
That and the Bushido they teach.

Guys,

You may want to put in a good word here, since the Obama-o-matics are tag teaming again. It’s probably the worst MSM article on Hillary to date. Only thing lacking is Cohen asking Hillary to commit suicide, or call for her assassination. It’s a slow-drip of cyanide at WP…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/25/AR2008022502422.html

Well, I don’t. If you act like the kids at DK, especially. I’m too old for smartassed kiddies, trying to tell me that I’m clueless, when their life exists in a fishbowl, full of fish shit.

Now go and blog for O-Bomba. But if O-Bomba gets the nomination, and loses the GE, only blame yourselves for stabbing your party in the back. Hillary is suppose to whip McCain’s butt, not some junior senator without a clue.

We were going to the Obamarama here in Houston, but since I burst into flames each time I try to enter churches, we decided it was a fire hazard.

A strategic move? And what Strategy is that?

Come on, no memes, explain. It is Strategic so you don’t have to answer for it later.

What is Strategic about not voting to have a set of boundaries between Sex businesses and Schools? “vote present”

I know quit a bit about Parliamentary procedure and the whole Roberts Rules wankdom, and Abstaining is an art for the iconoclasts and ignorant. An occasional vote of Abstention can indicate that to vote Yes or vote No are equally validating of a proposal that shouldn’t even be on the table. But as a habit they show much more about the Abstention Artists like Obama.

Your logic is circular.
1. “A strategic move” (what strategy is it)
2 “since evidently you haven’t been keeping up) Ad Hominem attack based on assumption
3. was worked out with Planned Parenthood. (qua? every time he voted Present he worked it out with Planned Parenthood, what the hell are you talking about)
4. “A NOW Representative” “switched her endorsement from Clinton to Obama based on this factoid.” (appeal to authority fallacy here, who cares if a representative of NOW switched their vote, why does that make this worth a damn? You say it as if it has some merit for Obama’s bullshit.”

and of course then you prematurely run to the endzone and spike your baby as a victory
“But thanks for playing”

Thats it? No wonder you think Obama is the next best thing to sliced bread, but….what the hell point did you make to claim victory on?

I see the mania every day. I just don’t seethe with anger about it. Primaries have never really done it for me.

You’re intense about them. I get it. But I’m not.

Not everyone is. It’s just true.

It’s not voters I’m trying to create distance from. It’s an organization. I think the institutional heads of the DLC are problem children, and I wouldn’t want them to have a heavy influence over Hillary Clinton any more than I’d want them to have a heavy influence over Barack Obama.

That they do have an influence is a problem, and I’d like to see it undone.

If you wouldn’t, that’s fine. We disagree.

People do that. You can even do it without having to pretend I’m some kind of Obamamaniac.

Will I take Obama if he’s nominated? Sure. Clinton? Sure. I’m not worried about either one.

All the white papers, policy documents, web site position papers — they all mean squat in the end, once Congress gets hold of them as legislation. So I don’t tend to fight these primary wars with the same passion as others.

The DLC, though, I watch carefully.

Yes, their positions mesh neatly with many of Obama’s. I’d like to limit that to the extent possible (same would go for Clinton). If it ever becomes possible to actually reverse it, I’d be glad to see that happen too.

That this strikes anyone as insulting or hypocritical seems odd to me. But you’re different people. What can I say? It happens.

I thought you might like to talk about it. Maybe not.

Well, you tell me what you’d like to talk about. It’s your sandbox.

I don’t blog for Obama, though. That was the point of coming over. I don’t think you could actually establish any kind of record for blogging for Obama. It’s just not there.

Kagro Zombie

You’re one of many reasons I have abandoned Daily Cesspool.

What I like to talk about?

The uneven press coverage about Hillary. Went over to WP to check the editorials this morning, and found one by Cohen that’s the most disgusting article I ever seen from a MSM outlet. There’s a clear agenda to crusify Hillary, when editorials are so vile.

Or, how about the Obama bots? Are they really Democrats so sick to kick their party’s own butt? Or is the DK subset Republicans trying to fool they’re Dems?

Want to blog? Blog about the self-evident truths. Be a real revolutionary and defy the status quo, DIG and get the real scoop. Not post for the masses for butt pats from a sheltered community.

For a generation of supposively “progressives” what I see are 20/30 year-old nags. Complain about everything, want everything on a silver platter — and when they don’t get it — threaten to have RIOTS to get their way, like the spoiled brats. They don’t even have patience wait for the primaries to complete, demanding Hillary to quit — no one in their right mind would quit this close to the finish line!

Be the rebel. Be different. Write the truth.

Read and listen to almost everything Seymour has to say. Have read Plan B along with what Sibel Edmonds has been saying about Turkey and Plames encounters with Turkey and U.S. Officials doing dirty business in Turkey.

Thanks for encouraging all of us to read Seymour

David Cutler. NEC chair and CEA member from Bill Clinton economic team. He gave the OVP’s daily economic briefing.

Pig People? Why do some make the utterly intellectually dishonest leap in logic that Hillary is Bill?
nonnegative = Positive?

I am designing a shock collar for Warp-10 Liberals that triggers on any combination of the words Rove or Rovian.

Oh Muse, as recompense for my epiphany, I’m sending you one matching set of Obama Bath Towels with the Prince Of Platitudes inscribed in sequins on each and every one. (The Velvet Elvis versions are still on the way from China)

“Yes we can”

And all will be well in the garden.