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A Must-Watch: Brit Hume on “trouble brewing” as common-sense Democrats balk at mammoth budget spending spree

Did you know that our national debt is growing at $1 million per minute? Read more below in two must-read articles …

Did you know that a group of 14 Democratic and independent U.S. senators held a meeting because they are “starting to choke over the massive spending and tax increases in President Barack Obama’s budget plans and have begun plotting to increase their influence. …”?

Moderate and conservative Democrats in the Senate have begun plotting to increase their influence over the agenda

Moderate and conservative Democrats in the Senate have begun plotting to increase their influence over the agenda

Our reader Andy — who’s always on the ball — sent our writers’ list two articles that are must-reads about the Democrats who are waking up to this Nancy Pelosi/Barney Frank/et al. MESS of a budget:

From “Deficits and Fiscal Credibility” by Sen. Evan Bayh:

This week, the United States Senate will vote on a spending package to fund the federal government for the remainder of this fiscal year. The Omnibus Appropriations Act of 2009 is a sprawling, $410 billion compilation of nine spending measures that lacks the slightest hint of austerity from the federal government or the recipients of its largess.

The Senate should reject this bill. If we do not, President Barack Obama should veto it.

The omnibus increases discretionary spending by 8% over last fiscal year’s levels, dwarfing the rate of inflation across a broad swath of issues including agriculture, financial services, foreign relations, energy and water programs, and legislative branch operations. Such increases might be appropriate for a nation flush with cash or unconcerned with fiscal prudence, but America is neither.

Drafted last year, the bill did not pass due to Congress’s long-standing budgetary dysfunction and the frustrating delays it yields in our appropriations work. Since then, economic and fiscal circumstances have changed dramatically, which is why the Senate should go back to the drawing board. The economic downturn requires new policies, not more of the same.

Our nation’s current fiscal imbalance is unprecedented, unsustainable and, if unaddressed, a major threat to our currency and our economic vitality. The national debt now exceeds $10 trillion. This is almost double what it was just eight years ago, and the debt is growing at a rate of about $1 million a minute. … Readall.

From “Moderates uneasy with Obama plan,” Politico.com:

Moderate and conservative Democrats in the Senate are starting to choke over the massive spending and tax increases in President Barack Obama’s budget plans and have begun plotting to increase their influence over the agenda of a president who is turning out to be much more liberal than they are.

A group of 14 Senate Democrats and one independent huddled behind closed doors on Tuesday, discussing how centrists in that chamber can assert more leverage on the major policy debates that will dominate this Congress.

Afterward, some in attendance made plain that they are getting jitters over the cost and expansive reach of Obama’s $3.6 trillion budget proposal.

Asked when he’d reach his breaking point, Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson, one of the most conservative Democrats in the Senate, said: “Right now. I’m concerned about the amount that’s being offered in [Obama’s] budget.”

Another attendee, Sen. Mary L. Landrieu (D-La.), said she expected the newly formed caucus to shape Obama’s budget proposal as it moves through Congress.

“We want to give the president a chance, but our concern is going to be on the budget, looking forward,” Landrieu said. She added that she agrees with Obama that there needs to be “fundamental change” in fiscal policy, but she said “we do have to keep our eye on the long term, on intermediate and long-term fiscal responsibility.”

Sen. Evan Bayh, the Indiana Democrat who assembled Tuesday’s skull session, added that he was “very concerned” about Washington’s level of spending, especially in a $410 billion “omnibus” spending bill to fund the government until the start of a new fiscal year in October. … Read all.

It’s heartening to know that many, like Evan Bayh who gathered the group for the meeting, are expressing grave concerns about this spending spree.

  • lute

    His housing bailout is a major fiasco. It creates a tiny privileged class of homeowners who will pay as little as 2 percent. But only if they fit into
    the narrow criteria.
    Too many homeowners and potential buyers are excluded.

  • helenk

    maybe if congress really read what they sign in to law we would be better off. I know it is hard to do what you are paid to do and why you were sent to Washington. But gee do try.
    I am glad that some are beginning to understand what the spending is doing to the country. But too few and maybe too late.
    Term limits now//////

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • Linda C.

    Most economist don’t think there is enough spending and too many tax cuts. We are in a mess and there is very little wiggle room here.

    People are screaming that they don’t want to help out those who were irresponsible homeowners. I suppose that would leave out a majority of folks depending upon who is defining what actually is “irresponsible”. Since Americans are in negative net worth, that is quite a few irresponsible people.

  • lute

    All he needs to do is reduce interest rates to around 4%.
    Then most people could afford to make their payments, and housing sales would go up.

  • ParkSlope Voter

    Term limits, huh? Why not ask about a family regime in Indiana (Hint: Who was Evan Bayh’s father?).

    -MS

  • helenk

    term limits and family regime are two separate things.
    Depending on the people involved, if a relative is good for the country elect them.
    If a relative is not good for the country DO NOT elect them.
    Term limits give them less time to get too cozy and more time maybe actually do something for the country like they are paid to do.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • betty

    I called Senator Klobuchar yesterday, because I was so pissed. I wanted to know when my bail out was coming. When is the government going to say:

    “I see you lost your life savings, here is a check for 20% of it – right off the top of the stimulus package”.

    Who is going to stick up for me, I asked? I don’t expect that will be Amy Klobuchar since she, I believe was part of the conspiracy to subvert the democratic process within the Democratic party. And in the end I hope she, and anyone else who had a hand in that, gets labeled the traitors that they are.

  • to77

    “Most economist don’t think there is enough spending and too many tax cuts..”

    ummmmm…. your wrong.

  • http://www.latinarepublican.com Latina Republican

    This is not the only dissension going on. There is an article about Obama’s hope vs. Clinton’s doubts.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/02/AR2009030200597.html

  • betty

    Maybe “traitor” is not the right term, Saboteur would be better maybe.

    What would we think if a secret group managed to interfere, and actually subvert, the primary process of one of our major political parties. Would we think that maybe they’re terrorist?

    What if they managed to get their get their candidate into office and then set about destroying the American economy, and America?

    Would you you think it was ok to let a small group of people subvert a democratic process just to get the person you support elected?

    Isn’t that how we ended up with W.? Tom Delay and his thugs interfered with a democratic process in FLA.

  • wodiej

    Obama veto spending?? Ha, I won’t hold my breath waiting for that.

    Declaration of Independence excerpt:

    “all men are created equal, they they are endowed with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that when any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government”….

    these people are simply OUT OF CONTROL.

  • beebop

    ummmmm…. your you’re wrong

    Sorry …. you’re credibility is gapping …. right about where your butt crack shows.

  • Peggy Sue

    This doesn’t surprise me, Latina R. Hillary Clinton expressed grave doubts from the start about this nonsense of meeting face-to-face with rogue state leaders or pretending Iran could simply be reasoned with or charmed into playing nice.

    This is a case where cult of personality won’t work but will get us all killed without competent, tough statesmen and women at the helm. I’m glad HRC is there. But the whole thing is depressing and frightening.

  • wodiej

    All I know is people need to be accountable for their actions. I have a small home. Could I afford more? Yep. Why don’t I get a bigger one? Because if something happened to my job, I don’t have enough money in savings or would have sufficient income to make the payment. So in essence I am living within my means. Lots of people went out and got more home then they needed simply because someone was stupid enough to lend them the money. Is that my fault? HELL NO. Next time they won’t make the same mistake hopefully but then again the majority of people are stupid so I’m not counting on that.

  • wodiej

    btw…best cure for not making mistakes and repeating them is suffering.

  • C.S.

    Where were all these “visionaries” when 18 million of us voters were screaming at superdelegates to stop the madness and look at what they were creating? That’s right; opening this Pandora’s Box of consequences that has unleashed the furies of economic destruction, class warfare and re-energized our terrorist enemies. And now that they’re out, how do we get them back in if the Triad (Soertoro/Obama, Pelosi and Reid) haven’t finished playing with them?

  • http://www.latinarepublican.com Latina Republican

    It’s frightening because we have one of the most inexperienced senators running the show during these dangerous times. WTF voted for this snot nosed idiot?!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhXA3fXpCFk Woman Voter

    Give us some names, don’t quote thin air.

  • beebop

    Wouldn’t it be WONDERFUL (and new and refreshing) if the 0bomba people would work for a day and not tell us what they are going to do? When they stfu the stock market does a little better. Geithner particularly should be put in a dark room for about a month to give my portfolio (or what once passed for one) some stimulus.

  • termo

    I was actually at a party where a bank executive advised one of the friends there to intentionally default on their mortgage so that they could get a lower rate. They defaulted and are currently negotiating a better rate.

    This is a perfect example how this Obama administration is not thinking anything through and when they do are coming up with absurd solutions.

  • termo

    The economy is in a freefall and Obama seems singularly focused on Rush Limbaugh.

    He is quickly turning into the worst President in history and no one is stopping him.

    Expect people like Paul Volker to eventually quit this fiasco.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Term limits are awful. I am thrilled with my House member and both senators. They deliver and they are sensible fiscally. I’m sure that at least one of my senators — Maria Cantwell, EVER SENSIBLE — is in with Evan Bayh on fiscal restraint.

    Our House member is a MODERATE TO CONSERVATIVE Democrat who has GREAT POWER but you’d never know it.

    Unlike Clyburn, Franks, et al., he doesn’t mow people down to get in front of the cameras. He does everything behind the scenes. He is #2 on the Appropriations Committee and he does bring us some bacon — but where we live, we need those earmarks (which are NOT — NOT! — per se bad, no matter what numbskull Obama says about them).

    Earmarks are a sideshow, btw — to divert us from the real agenda of the Pelosi Democrats.

    His name? Norm Dicks. Bet you never heard of him. But he’s one of the most powerful men in Washington, D.C., and he makes sure that the RIGHT THINGS get done.

    The MILITARY — all of them — know Norm Dicks well. Norm takes care of the military and veterans (as does Patty Murray, our other senator).

    If he were forced out by some stupidly arbitrary term-limit law, this area would fall to pieces economically.

    But he is always responsible in the goodies we get — they are longterm infrastructure projects and veterans’ assistance projects that TRULY help us.

    His district also includes the Naval Shipyard at Bremerton. They get taken care of. And that is a HUGE source of jobs for this area.

    – jumps off soap box –

  • beebop

    If they wanted to stimulate the spending, they would lift the penalty on spending your 401K and IRA money (if you have any). This might help people so that buying a car, purchasing a home or a consumer product would look attractive. Sure, instead why not just borrow government money? Makes sense to me! A one year suspension of the 5% penalty and dialing the tax rate down would bring a tremendous amount of money out into the open. Well … again, what’s now left of it.

  • Patience

    As is my habit, I watched the evening news with Brian Williams last night and was hoping to hear mention of these moderates, since IMO it’s very newsworthy that fellow Democrats are breaking rank during the presidential honeymoon period. But no. I did get to see a photo of the new swing set at the WH for the First Children though.

    When will network news start reporting the concern that these legislators and others obviously feel about the administration’s agenda and performance, which has caused the stock market (as one big example) to lose over 25% of its value since the POTUS took office? They’re still in cheerleading mode, choosing instead to report warm, fuzzy features about the First Family (unprecedented in frequency, in my memory), and all-too-anxious to remind us of the POTUS’ high poll numbers.

    No wonder Old Media is increasingly worthless to its stockholders and those of us in the general public who want to develop informed opinions.

  • http://theheraclitanfire.blogspot.com/ Craig Della Penna

    Term limits – a mixed bag IMO. If we didn’t have the 22nd, Ronald Reagan’s corpse would still be President. I’m more interested in other restrictions:

    Congesspeople cannot qualify to run for office if they make more than $100,000/yr.

    For every law that is passed, Congress must abolish two current laws.

    All lobbyists must wear a uniform when meeting with any Congressperson or with any member of their staff: a clown suit – colors of their choice but must include a fright wig, red ball nose and giant floppy shoes.

  • andrew191

    Answer: 69,000,000 other snot nosed idiots.

  • ford

    MSS is worthless, the swing set, the focus on Rush, the Michelle arms exercises, the dress comments, and the magazines with Obama on the cover.
    Our country is going down the hopper, and the Obamas are acting like they are entertainers.
    I hope the moderate D’s get together more.
    I like Webb too, he is kind of kooky. Is he still supporting Obama’s agenda of bankrupting America?

  • wodiej

    lobbyists outfits…LMAO

  • JozefAL

    Well, squawk all you want about term limits. Until the CONGRESS sends an amendment to the States establishing term limits, nothing can be done. The courts have already ruled that the States themselves can NOT impose term limits on any Federal-level legislators.
    On the general nature of term limits, however, I live in AL’s 2nd Congressional district, and in the past 100 years, the district has had a grand total of 7 representatives: Hubert Dent (1909-1921; 6 terms, lost renomination); John Tyson (1921-1923; 1 full term, died in office shortly after his second term began); J Lister Hill (1923-1938; 6 full terms, completed Tyson’s term, elected to the Senate during his last term*); George Grant (1938-1965; 13 full terms after being elected to finish Hill’s term, won renomination but lost in 1965); Bill Dickinson (1965-1993; 14 terms, retired); Terry Everett (1993-2009; 8 terms, retired); and now, Bobby Bright. In 100 years, the 2nd District has largely been a case of “once elected, you retire or you die in office” (Grant’s 1964 defeat was due less to personal unpopularity and more to the State’s race-based switch to the GOP).

    *The Hill story is even more interesting than it looks. Hill was elected to the Senate in the wake of Senator Hugo Black’s resignation following his appointment to the Supreme Court. After Black resigned in 1937, his seat was filled by Dixie Bibb Graves (who became the State’s first female Senator), but Mrs Graves resigned in early 1938 which prompted a special election which was won by Hill (who then continued to serve in the Senate until his retirement in 1969).

  • to77

    saying most economists don’t think there is enough spending and too many tax cuts is just stupid. I will respond with, most economists think there is too much spending and not enough tax cuts. It is a nonsensical stupid statement.

    I will say this: I am not quite sure what the egg-head, theorizing, academic economists who have never had a job in the private sector think, but I will tell you it is pretty clear what real world “economists” think of the “stimulus” package just by looking at what the stock market has done since that stinker passed.

    SPENDING MONEY WE DONT HAVE IS WHAT GOT IS INTO THIS MESS!
    GW increased federal domestic spending by 160% (not including defense and debt service, $1.2 trillion in 2000-3.1 trillion in 2009) over 8 years, 5x the rate under Clinton’s 8 years. He increased spending on education, health, welfare and infrastructure at 3x the rate of Clinton, did it help? And from a “street” level the housing crash is the result of people spending money they don’t have.

    btw sorry for the grammatical error, making a mistake while quickly typing on a blog definitely reveals my ignorance so I am sure you will be able to easily refute the argument I am making here since you are my intellectual superior (your stupid assertion about “most economists” not withstanding).

  • beebop

    I was just taken aback at the idiot savant knee jerk “your wrong” with nothing else. That’s the kind of retort that gets you ignored …

  • to77

    didn’t have time then to write out a longer response. sorry.

    my point was those type of statements are essentially the same. you say something unprovable like you did and I say your wrong.
    IMO, the same intellectual fodder.

    it’s kinda silly.

  • Larry the Lamb

    It is the Republicans that now claim to be against earmarks. McCain said he would end them.

  • Larry the Lamb

    What 18 million? The 5 pumas?

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