my point was those type of statements are essentially the same. you say something unprovable like you did and I say your wrong.
IMO, the same intellectual fodder.

it’s kinda silly.

I will say this: I am not quite sure what the egg-head, theorizing, academic economists who have never had a job in the private sector think, but I will tell you it is pretty clear what real world “economists” think of the “stimulus” package just by looking at what the stock market has done since that stinker passed.

SPENDING MONEY WE DONT HAVE IS WHAT GOT IS INTO THIS MESS!
GW increased federal domestic spending by 160% (not including defense and debt service, $1.2 trillion in 2000-3.1 trillion in 2009) over 8 years, 5x the rate under Clinton’s 8 years. He increased spending on education, health, welfare and infrastructure at 3x the rate of Clinton, did it help? And from a “street” level the housing crash is the result of people spending money they don’t have.

btw sorry for the grammatical error, making a mistake while quickly typing on a blog definitely reveals my ignorance so I am sure you will be able to easily refute the argument I am making here since you are my intellectual superior (your stupid assertion about “most economists” not withstanding).

*The Hill story is even more interesting than it looks. Hill was elected to the Senate in the wake of Senator Hugo Black’s resignation following his appointment to the Supreme Court. After Black resigned in 1937, his seat was filled by Dixie Bibb Graves (who became the State’s first female Senator), but Mrs Graves resigned in early 1938 which prompted a special election which was won by Hill (who then continued to serve in the Senate until his retirement in 1969).

Congesspeople cannot qualify to run for office if they make more than $100,000/yr.

For every law that is passed, Congress must abolish two current laws.

All lobbyists must wear a uniform when meeting with any Congressperson or with any member of their staff: a clown suit – colors of their choice but must include a fright wig, red ball nose and giant floppy shoes.

When will network news start reporting the concern that these legislators and others obviously feel about the administration’s agenda and performance, which has caused the stock market (as one big example) to lose over 25% of its value since the POTUS took office? They’re still in cheerleading mode, choosing instead to report warm, fuzzy features about the First Family (unprecedented in frequency, in my memory), and all-too-anxious to remind us of the POTUS’ high poll numbers.

No wonder Old Media is increasingly worthless to its stockholders and those of us in the general public who want to develop informed opinions.

Our House member is a MODERATE TO CONSERVATIVE Democrat who has GREAT POWER but you’d never know it.

Unlike Clyburn, Franks, et al., he doesn’t mow people down to get in front of the cameras. He does everything behind the scenes. He is #2 on the Appropriations Committee and he does bring us some bacon — but where we live, we need those earmarks (which are NOT — NOT! — per se bad, no matter what numbskull Obama says about them).

Earmarks are a sideshow, btw — to divert us from the real agenda of the Pelosi Democrats.

His name? Norm Dicks. Bet you never heard of him. But he’s one of the most powerful men in Washington, D.C., and he makes sure that the RIGHT THINGS get done.

The MILITARY — all of them — know Norm Dicks well. Norm takes care of the military and veterans (as does Patty Murray, our other senator).

If he were forced out by some stupidly arbitrary term-limit law, this area would fall to pieces economically.

But he is always responsible in the goodies we get — they are longterm infrastructure projects and veterans’ assistance projects that TRULY help us.

His district also includes the Naval Shipyard at Bremerton. They get taken care of. And that is a HUGE source of jobs for this area.

– jumps off soap box –

He is quickly turning into the worst President in history and no one is stopping him.

Expect people like Paul Volker to eventually quit this fiasco.

This is a perfect example how this Obama administration is not thinking anything through and when they do are coming up with absurd solutions.