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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-150648</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arianna Huffington, Mark Green of Air America were committed to take out John Edwards...they ignored him after his second place in Iowa. Even Amy Goodman of Democracy Now ignored Edwards most of the time...she ignored his second place win in Iowa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arianna Huffington, Mark Green of Air America were committed to take out John Edwards&#8230;they ignored him after his second place in Iowa. Even Amy Goodman of Democracy Now ignored Edwards most of the time&#8230;she ignored his second place win in Iowa.</p>
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		<title>By: yttik</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149607</link>
		<dc:creator>yttik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also running out of places to go. Dkos, buzz flash, DU, america blog, a couple of MSN groups. I&#039;ve been exhiled to the far reaches of the internet tubes. 

But besides being annoyed and disapointed with people, I&#039;m concerned about our country. This is mob politics, not democracy. If people aren&#039;t willing to hold Obama accountable for things now, they surely won&#039;t hold him accountable as president. 

I used to say President Bush could eat babies and the media and his supporters would simply give it a good spin. The man could do no wrong in the eyes of some. We surely don&#039;t want to repeat this mistake, the last thing we want is another messiah for people to worship in the white house. Nobody is perfect, nobody should be above the law. Everyone is accountable. Or so I thought.

Can you imagine trying to get Congress or the general public to put limits on a President Obama? No way, he&#039;s The One. But see, that&#039;s the same kind of hubris and arrogance that led our current administration to believe they had the right to out a CIA agent. Or fire all those attorneys. Or ignore subpeonas.

I always thought it was an American tradition to hold our leader&#039;s feet to the fire. And to be irrevent. That&#039;s a dangerous ideal for us to throw away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also running out of places to go. Dkos, buzz flash, DU, america blog, a couple of MSN groups. I&#8217;ve been exhiled to the far reaches of the internet tubes. </p>
<p>But besides being annoyed and disapointed with people, I&#8217;m concerned about our country. This is mob politics, not democracy. If people aren&#8217;t willing to hold Obama accountable for things now, they surely won&#8217;t hold him accountable as president. </p>
<p>I used to say President Bush could eat babies and the media and his supporters would simply give it a good spin. The man could do no wrong in the eyes of some. We surely don&#8217;t want to repeat this mistake, the last thing we want is another messiah for people to worship in the white house. Nobody is perfect, nobody should be above the law. Everyone is accountable. Or so I thought.</p>
<p>Can you imagine trying to get Congress or the general public to put limits on a President Obama? No way, he&#8217;s The One. But see, that&#8217;s the same kind of hubris and arrogance that led our current administration to believe they had the right to out a CIA agent. Or fire all those attorneys. Or ignore subpeonas.</p>
<p>I always thought it was an American tradition to hold our leader&#8217;s feet to the fire. And to be irrevent. That&#8217;s a dangerous ideal for us to throw away.</p>
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		<title>By: Frostback</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149570</link>
		<dc:creator>Frostback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>link:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article

I&#039;d also like to know why Obama either lied outrigiht or wasn&#039;t aware of the total raised via Rezko.  He says in this article it was $60,000, but it turned out to be more like $150,000 didn&#039;t it?  So, which is it?...is he a liar or just doesn&#039;t have a clue what&#039;s going on around him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article" rel="nofollow">http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to know why Obama either lied outrigiht or wasn&#8217;t aware of the total raised via Rezko.  He says in this article it was $60,000, but it turned out to be more like $150,000 didn&#8217;t it?  So, which is it?&#8230;is he a liar or just doesn&#8217;t have a clue what&#8217;s going on around him?</p>
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		<title>By: Frostback</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149567</link>
		<dc:creator>Frostback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s explanation, as given to the Chicago Sun-Times in Nov of 2006 is:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Q: Senator, when did you first meet Tony Rezko? How did you become friends? How often would you meet with him, and when did you last speak with him? 


A: I had attracted some media attention when I was elected the first black President of the Harvard Law Review. And while I was in law school, David Brint, who was a development partner with Tony Rezko contacted me and asked whether I would be interested in being a developer. Ultimately, after discussions in which I met Mr. Rezko, I said no. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now, why would a developer call a law student to offer him a job as a developer?   

I smelled BS the second I read that explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s explanation, as given to the Chicago Sun-Times in Nov of 2006 is:</p>
<blockquote><p>Q: Senator, when did you first meet Tony Rezko? How did you become friends? How often would you meet with him, and when did you last speak with him? </p>
<p>A: I had attracted some media attention when I was elected the first black President of the Harvard Law Review. And while I was in law school, David Brint, who was a development partner with Tony Rezko contacted me and asked whether I would be interested in being a developer. Ultimately, after discussions in which I met Mr. Rezko, I said no.
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<p>Now, why would a developer call a law student to offer him a job as a developer?   </p>
<p>I smelled BS the second I read that explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: Frostback</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149560</link>
		<dc:creator>Frostback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, Obamabots come onto sites like this one and bitch about Obama&#039;s negatives being exposed/discussed!

I gave up on HuffPo entirely after seeing the regulars there on debate night completely trashing Clinton&#039;s clothes and hair (oh, and even Taylor Marsh&#039;s hair) as well as refer to the female bloggers as &quot;hens blogging&quot;, and to Hillary as &quot;she must be on her period&quot;...ALL of it unchecked by any other Obama supporter.  It was disgusting, and more than disappointing. 

What really freaks me out though, is this Obamabot meme that if you&#039;re not on board with O, you&#039;ll suffer the fate of being ostracized.  WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, Obamabots come onto sites like this one and bitch about Obama&#8217;s negatives being exposed/discussed!</p>
<p>I gave up on HuffPo entirely after seeing the regulars there on debate night completely trashing Clinton&#8217;s clothes and hair (oh, and even Taylor Marsh&#8217;s hair) as well as refer to the female bloggers as &#8220;hens blogging&#8221;, and to Hillary as &#8220;she must be on her period&#8221;&#8230;ALL of it unchecked by any other Obama supporter.  It was disgusting, and more than disappointing. </p>
<p>What really freaks me out though, is this Obamabot meme that if you&#8217;re not on board with O, you&#8217;ll suffer the fate of being ostracized.  WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149554</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God speed to your Jordan and his band of brothers and sisters. I hear my 40 wind chimes doing their thing today...a welcome breeze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God speed to your Jordan and his band of brothers and sisters. I hear my 40 wind chimes doing their thing today&#8230;a welcome breeze.</p>
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		<title>By: Frostback</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149553</link>
		<dc:creator>Frostback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are OLD reports, Andy...which begs the question, HOW has he gotten this far?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are OLD reports, Andy&#8230;which begs the question, HOW has he gotten this far?</p>
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		<title>By: Salo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149545</link>
		<dc:creator>Salo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear he was a non entity.


Not active politically at all.   Sorta like his Senate Career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear he was a non entity.</p>
<p>Not active politically at all.   Sorta like his Senate Career.</p>
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		<title>By: Salo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149542</link>
		<dc:creator>Salo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should catalog the attrocities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should catalog the attrocities.</p>
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		<title>By: Frostback</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149533</link>
		<dc:creator>Frostback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suspicious isn&#039;t it, particularly for someone who likes to talk/write about himself as much as Obama. 

Perhaps the Columbia days - normally an important formative stage of adult life - were part of the drug years.


BTW, some Canadians are onto Obama.  Apart from the very well-respected CBC Washington correspondent Neil Macdonald&#039;s piece I linked to earlier, this week one of our comedy troupes, CBC&#039;s &quot;The Air Farce&quot;, performed a scathing parody titled &#039;Obama Speaks From Someone Else&#039;s Heart&#039;.   

Here&#039;s a Globe &amp; Mail piece on Hillary:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080301.wfocusclinton0301/BNStory/International/?pageRequested=1

(apologies if it&#039;s a repost...it&#039;s hard to keep up with the action on the blogs these days!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suspicious isn&#8217;t it, particularly for someone who likes to talk/write about himself as much as Obama. </p>
<p>Perhaps the Columbia days &#8211; normally an important formative stage of adult life &#8211; were part of the drug years.</p>
<p>BTW, some Canadians are onto Obama.  Apart from the very well-respected CBC Washington correspondent Neil Macdonald&#8217;s piece I linked to earlier, this week one of our comedy troupes, CBC&#8217;s &#8220;The Air Farce&#8221;, performed a scathing parody titled &#8216;Obama Speaks From Someone Else&#8217;s Heart&#8217;.   </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a Globe &amp; Mail piece on Hillary:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080301.wfocusclinton0301/BNStory/International/?pageRequested=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080301.wfocusclinton0301/BNStory/International/?pageRequested=1</a></p>
<p>(apologies if it&#8217;s a repost&#8230;it&#8217;s hard to keep up with the action on the blogs these days!)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149526</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome !! Thanks for the links Frostback: finally some questions being asked in the MSM.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome !! Thanks for the links Frostback: finally some questions being asked in the MSM&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Frostback</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149518</link>
		<dc:creator>Frostback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of videos (nbc/cnn) that could use some circulating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOFT8jtuVpo&amp;NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXAQ3BHTbjs

Perhaps one of the Obamabots would like to reconcile their guy&#039;s ever-changing stories on Rezko.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of videos (nbc/cnn) that could use some circulating:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOFT8jtuVpo&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOFT8jtuVpo&#038;NR=1</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXAQ3BHTbjs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXAQ3BHTbjs</a></p>
<p>Perhaps one of the Obamabots would like to reconcile their guy&#8217;s ever-changing stories on Rezko.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149513</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto...Same thing here. The only thing I can sort of stand to hear is NPR...(not always though)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto&#8230;Same thing here. The only thing I can sort of stand to hear is NPR&#8230;(not always though)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149507</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the last several weeks, I have been forced to steadily abandon all of my favorite sources of news- HuffingtonPost, Daily Kos, Air America, The Washington Post, Countdown with Keith Olbermann- because they have all become as dedicated to the takedown of Hillary Clinton as any right-wing radio host, FOX or the Washington Times.  Other than this thread and Taylor Marsh, the media is now a vast wasteland of sexist attacks and praise for Saint Barack, the Chosen One.

It&#039;s so sad.  Every so often, I switch on XM Channel 167 (Air America and Ed Schultz) for a few seconds, only to turn it off, wincing.  I try to read the editorial page of the Washington Post, but that&#039;s become a virtual clearing house for Why We Hate Hillary screeds.  Even the Post Style section includes Tom Shales telling us &quot;of course Obama won the debate, it wasn&#039;t close&quot; and friendly profiles of Michelle Obama, Chris Matthews, etc.- all of which spend more time smearing Hillary than actually talking about the alleged subject of the piece. 

Where are we to go?  What are we to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last several weeks, I have been forced to steadily abandon all of my favorite sources of news- HuffingtonPost, Daily Kos, Air America, The Washington Post, Countdown with Keith Olbermann- because they have all become as dedicated to the takedown of Hillary Clinton as any right-wing radio host, FOX or the Washington Times.  Other than this thread and Taylor Marsh, the media is now a vast wasteland of sexist attacks and praise for Saint Barack, the Chosen One.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so sad.  Every so often, I switch on XM Channel 167 (Air America and Ed Schultz) for a few seconds, only to turn it off, wincing.  I try to read the editorial page of the Washington Post, but that&#8217;s become a virtual clearing house for Why We Hate Hillary screeds.  Even the Post Style section includes Tom Shales telling us &#8220;of course Obama won the debate, it wasn&#8217;t close&#8221; and friendly profiles of Michelle Obama, Chris Matthews, etc.- all of which spend more time smearing Hillary than actually talking about the alleged subject of the piece. </p>
<p>Where are we to go?  What are we to do?</p>
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		<title>By: hoosierhoops</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1668/digital-nonsense-open-thread/#comment-149371</link>
		<dc:creator>hoosierhoops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT:
2am this morning Jordan called from Iraq. He is on R&amp;R from Fallujah and is in great spirits. 30 more days in that hell hole then he starts moving back and processed out to kuwait and then home. We&#039;ll meet him when he gets off the bus at camp pendleton.
We couldn&#039;t be happier!!!
Have a nice weekend friends..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT:<br />
2am this morning Jordan called from Iraq. He is on R&amp;R from Fallujah and is in great spirits. 30 more days in that hell hole then he starts moving back and processed out to kuwait and then home. We&#8217;ll meet him when he gets off the bus at camp pendleton.<br />
We couldn&#8217;t be happier!!!<br />
Have a nice weekend friends..</p>
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