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Outfoxing America

By Larry Johnson on March 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM in Current Affairs

There is a terrific article in the CityEdition, a San Francisco newspaper run by women, that deserves your attention. It is titled, Bamboozling the American electorate again, and contains important nuggets and analysis.

I was surprised to learn that that one of Barack’s speech writers, Ben Rhodes, is the brother of Fox News VP David Rhodes. Remember David?

Rhodes has been with the network since its inception in 1996. You may recall that on election night in November 2000, it was Fox that called Florida for Bush, even though the other networks declared Gore the winner, citing the exit polls. How Fox knew the polls were wrong in advance of the vote tabulation has never been explained.

Now maybe David and Ben have diametrically opposed political views. Maybe not. And Fox is anything but Obama friendly. This tidbit probably would not be relevant except when it is considered in the context that there is a concerted effort by Republicans to intervene in the Democratic primaries and caucuses on behalf of Obama.

I know firsthand from Republicans in Texas that they have launched a full scale effort to Obama and defeat Hillary. I do not know if they will succeed, but it is worth asking the question. Why do Republicans want to run against Obama? What do you think?

S. Markom

Then why is Rush openly asking GOP to vote for Hillary in Texas and not Obama?

ChrisXP

“Less of two evils”.

Remember how the Dems feel and treated Joe Lieberman? Well, the same is felt towards John McCain. Conservatives want to take McCain to the back of a woodshed.

I’m voting for Hillary because if I wanted to vote for a liberal, I’m sure not voting for a Republican to do so. Might as well vote for the real thing, than a poser.

If O-Bomba gets the nomination, I’d either vote for Nader or writein for Buchanan. Couldn’t support O-Bomba or McCain on principle.

CK

http://www.seriesbooks.com/bomba.htm
The famous Bomba the jungle boy was white, he was not Irish not O’Bamba. He wasn’t a loslobos song either.

ChrisXP

Jungle boy?

You need help.

Whatever I feel about O-Bomba, it’s not due to his race or faith, never were issues.
Simon

The famous Bomba the jungle boy was white, he was not Irish not O’Bamba. He wasn’t a loslobos song either.

So this mean “Dali Bama” is also, out?

Not gonna happen…

ChrisXP

I use the pet nickname for Obama as O-Bomba, due to his speech he’d bomb Pakistan.

Whatever anyone else gets out of it, is the figure of their own imaginations. By the looks of some, it’s a race issue.

CK

Wouldn’t that be O-Bomber? Nah no one would misspell that unintentionally.
He actually said that if there were actionable information and if the Pakistanis wouldn’t act, then he would unilaterally take out al quaeda? Not quite the same as bombing Lahore and Karachi.
And low and behold the Bush administration in a spasm of originality tried to do just that and claimed that they succeeded. Glory Hallelujah.
You can fess up Chris, you were trying to get that jungle boy thing implanted. The Hussein middle name thing is just not cutting the mustard. The clothing issue came to naught. The Ayers issue … shame about the reagan adminstration blowing that prosecution. Maybe a wee bit o dogwhistle for the older folks. The whole Rezko thing is going to depend on Fitzpatrick. I wonder if Obama has not already offered him the AG slot. There a neat conspiracy if Fitz doesn’t bring Obama into the trial. Or maybe hillary has offered that job to Fitz and he will bring up Obama’s name as a quid pro quo. Not that any intelligent Dem would offer the AG slot to a rethug no matter how honest he might seem.

ChrisXP

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Wouldn’t that be O-Bomber? Nah no one would misspell that unintentionally.
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Actually, folks did. Picked it up at Politico over his Pakistan comment. Stuck ever since.

BTW, Occam Razor rules. You’re w-a-y too long winded.

Simon

Obama has direct connecitons to Auchi, one of the worst humanity has ever seen, on par with Hitler, if you want to be brutal.

Do some research and see what the Pentagon has to say about this guy.

Obama, and his supporters, think this is OK.

It’s not.

And even worse, it is my opinion, Obama KNEW of Auchi’s deeds, and still involved himself with him, an opportunist to the end.

Obama can fuck off, and if the world is lucky, he’ll end up in prison, within 5 years.

Simon

BTW, catch “the economist” this week, the one with the Russian bear on the cover.

There is an illustration of Obama, above an article discussing his, or wait, Hillary’s, or no wait, the DLC guy’s, economic plan.

He’s dressed as cowboy brother love, selling something…?

So already, the foreign press has him pegged, accurately. And you think your willful ignorance protects you from Auchi? Ask the French, or the British how relevant he is…

Just another republican quadriplegic in democratic clothes running for President, and Obama hasn’t even hit the White House, yet. They already have him as less than Bush.

Foreign relations will not be repaired.

Auchi deals in arms. How many of those illegal weapons have blown up European citizens, or profits funded massive bribery and corruption in European governments?

You think this is OK, tuna? Obama is Auchi’s guy, either directly, and we’ll find out, or through Rezko.

And who else has a stake in Obama as President?

http://www.despair.com/ambition.html Smilin’ Jim

Dunham (his mother’s family) is old English from around Norfolk. O’Bama is one boyo who won’t be traveling to the Auld Sod to look up his family’s roots — his were Na Sasanaigh , the Oppressor.

Colonial Dunhams have and interesting background. Maybe his girls could join the DAR.

Simon

Maybe his girls could join the DAR.

God BLESS mother Obama.

heh.

Andy

But Pat Buchanan has been openly anti-semitic on TV; he has a bit of a racist element in him I think.

ChrisXP

Buchanan is a traditional Catholic (not of the separatist movement like Mel Gibson, but old world). It’s no different than Jews who believe in Talmudic teachings of old.

You’ll find no religious (including Atheism) beliefs aren’t free of bigotry or whatever. It’s the nature of any belief to keep believers.

The world won’t be rid of bigotry, because as long as people are different, mankind will view people/beliefs differently. All anyone can do is tolerate diversity, and keep the extremist views from taking control. Not cherry pick and let only one extremism rule.
Kathleen

Bull shit! He is willing to challenge the Israeli Lobby far more than any of the talking heads. And you as so many do call any challenge of the I-Lobby or Israel…’anti -semitic” This is a strategy that many are tired of.

TeakWoodKite

He, beside the many others things, is a bigot first and the a misogynist.
chris

S. Markom,
I am glad you asked that, plus adding Coulter’s comments to this:

I live her in Houston, and I can testify that if you read the Houston Chronicle, like I do (in fact I was a delivery boy for them as a teen for 2 years)..there are many republicans who hate clinton who are lop siding this primary vote and have no intention of voting in November for a Democrat at all. They are admitting very clearly that they want to eliminate Clinton’s chances.

This is unpreventable too, because you can’t eliminate their vote either…lets suppose a person who made a catastrophic mistake being a republican all this time, saw the light (love ya larry) and they want to vote…we wouldn’t keep them out in the cold, now would we?

Well this door is being not only exploited but promoted as a way to stop Clinton.
http://www.chron.com
just find any of the articles about this race, and you’ll find Republicans who are lop siding it on purpose. Why wouldn’t the lowest of the low interfere in their enemy’s camp?

Historical perspective:
Those of us who have studied the history of slavery and oppression of the black community are very aware of the “Willie Lynch” letter.
It explains very clearly that ‘distrust is stronger than trust’ and recommends a way to keep power in the hands of the masters by pitting ‘younger against older’, ‘lighter skinned against darker skinned’, ‘and the men against women’.

By this, then the slaves could not unite and he promised and was almost dead on…it would keep the Masters in power for 300 years or more.
http://www.daveyd.com/willlynch.html

So, when Rove comes out and Jabs Obama, I don’t fall for that, I see it as a prod.
When Coulter comes out for Hillary over McCain, I don’t fall for that, its a stupid ass version of ‘reverse psychology’
and when that pumpkin head idiot Limbaugh says anything, it should be seen as Bullshit.

They are not ignorant fully about our base behavior. They expect us to vomit when they attach themselves to Clinton or whoever they see as the enemy.

Its like the asshole representatives who put up a bill they absolutely do not believe in so it can be voted down unanimously so it can’t come back up for consideration. THE ULTIMATE IN CYNICISM

http://homelessonthehighdesert.wordpress.com/ Ten Bears

There are no coincidences.

Simon

In that same issue of the economist, this week, the one with the Russian bear eating all the oil on the cover, there is an examination of the current Russian economy.

I get the feeling they’re in the same place we are, some really really bad economic policies that will hurt them, severely, I have to wonder why.

I would suppose it was a short sighted attempt to stabilize the economy, post meltdown.

But shouldn’t Putin have been making making more liberal economic conversions, in regard to policy? And were those decisions made to preserve the oligarch, risking the future stabilty of Russia? What happens when the wealth distribution is so stilted, and resentment sets in? I don’t really see a strong Russian middle class emerging, I guess I’ll have to research more.

Anyway, what Larry alluded to in regard to Fox makes me feel as if I’m in Russia, the two “cultural elites,” American and Russian, operating within the same bubble.

Except Russia has the oil, and OPEC, and we have Bush, and OPEC, but boy, if the Russian economy blows, then what?

Dominoes?
Fred C. Dobbs

Fifty seven laps around the Sun, and I haven’t seen one yet.

ChrisXP

Something to consider when talking about Fox News…

http://www.nndb.com/people/586/000160106/

Not all in the Murdoch family are arch-Republicans.
CK

Well I think that the republicans believe that their base is more racist. More likely to hold their nose and vote for McCain because he is an old white racist antisemetic anti catholic flipflopping amnesty granting collaborator and buffoon.
This october and november the rethugs will be facing their brokebase mountain and trying to blame everyone but themselves. Republican reality in november is that they could lose worse than Dukakis or Mondale in the presidency and lose the senate completely making lieberman a non-entity and lose even more in the house and some governorships too.
With Obama heading the ticket, a lot of those “irrelevant” red districts come over to the dems. Or as the poster up list said, Limbaugh is working for Hillary now. Hillary keeps a lot of loosely attached rethugs in the rethug camp, Obama pulls them over.
Hell even Peden the clown running against Ron Paul is BEGGGING the repubs not to cross over and vote dem and especially not to vote dem for Hillary.
Now what do you think of the Hagee endorsement? Should old John disavow and repudiate? Can we get some pictures of Obama and Farrakhan on the same stage? Maybe Susan can “find” another photoshopped montage?

ChrisXP

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“Well I think that the republicans believe that their base is more racist. More likely to hold their nose and vote for McCain because he is an old white racist antisemetic anti catholic flipflopping amnesty granting collaborator and buffoon.”
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It’s such rhetoric that doesn’t make Dems, like above, any better.

In all the days I’ve been posting as a conservative, the ONLY racist comments I’ve gotten were from card-carrying Dems. Sorry to burst your own bigoted views, but that’s the truth.

When I was in need (I’m disabled) it was an old White lady Republican who helped me get on my feet again. She didn’t give me pity, nor handouts (knowing it devalues pride). She also helped many in the community, and there wasn’t a color barrier, even though her world was “White-on-Rice”.

That lesson taught me a valuable lesson. It’s not politics nor skin color that is the problem. It’s PEOPLE who hold certain beliefs and use them to find scapegoats to excuse THEIR behavior.

Not surprised that Hillary is getting legit conservative crossovers (compared to Obama’s crossovers that will return home in November). She’s not preaching a revolution, she’s preaching a working government. That is appealing to conservatives who dislike French style revolutions with a passion, and are problem solvers, not dream makers. Conservatives believe they can actually work with Hillary, without compromising principles. She has strong beliefs, we have strong beliefs, but each can respect that they do (not waffle all over the map like O-Bomba and McInsane).

Andy

ChrisXP:

“Not surprised that Hillary is getting legit conservative crossovers (compared to Obama’s crossovers that will return home in November). She’s not preaching a revolution, she’s preaching a working government. That is appealing to conservatives who dislike French style revolutions with a passion, and are problem solvers, not dream makers. Conservatives believe they can actually work with Hillary, without compromising principles. She has strong beliefs, we have strong beliefs, but each can respect that they do (not waffle all over the map like O-Bomba and McInsane).”

This is nicely put. I am not a conservative but, as you,believe that reasonable people (not those at the fringe) value hard work and depth.
And I think you have a very good point about cross-over voters.
CK

Old = 73
White = he is
anti-semitic= Hagee endorsement, Hagee who has said that the jews brought the holocaust upon themselves. Hagee who wants the rapture so all the jews can die and Christ return. McCain refuses to disavow Hagee.
Anti-catholic = McCain sought and got the endorsement of a man who calls the catholic church and its members;”cultists in a whore church” McCain has not seen fit to disavow this either.
racist = “I hate gooks.” McCain quote.
Flip-flopping= vote for torture, attempt to game the election funding laws he helped write.
Amnesty granting: McCain Kennedy immigration bill.
Collaborator: the tapes he made for the North Vietnamese are available still. His use of his father’s name and rank to obtain special treatment are documented in his autobiography.
buffoon: Selling his office during the keating 5 scandal, selling it again to another pretty lobbyist for some telecom. Dumping his wife for a rich mafia connected, drug stealing trophy.
If you want a conservative there is Ron Paul, there was Duncan Hunter.
If you wanted a foreign policy pro there was Joe Biden or Bill Richardson.
If you wanted a real military man there was Duncan Hunter, John Kerry, Wes Clark
If you wanted a liberal there was Dennis Kucinich or John Edwards.
If you want another 4 or 8 years of Bush there is McCain or Clinton or Rudy or Romney.
If you wanted lethargy there was Fred Thompson.
You all wanted more of the same old but the rest of the populace wants to throw the same old out.
All the old babies with the old bathwater and the old bathroom decor. Jefferson would approve. Hamilton would not.

Simon

racist = “I hate gooks.” McCain quote.

Given his years as a POW, I can understand the anger.

But it brings up a whole new set of pertinent questions.
ChrisXP

Throwing the same old out, will result in a French style revolution. That is not helpful to a society, and the French learned the hard way to revert back to a less extreme society.

What is needed is orderly reform. Not radical overthrows. Orderly reform comes over DECADES, where folks can get used of the changes, without the fear of everything they have known, is thrown upside down.

This is WHY the civil rights movement has met with resistence, and will be met with resistence. It was too radical, causing centuries of beliefs/traditions to be overthrown, causing confusion and a different type of hatred (a dislike and distrust to the government in itself).

Real reform is by degrees with a long-term commitment to make them work. Not slogans. Not instant legislation.

Simon

Orderly reform comes over DECADES, where folks can get used of the changes, without the fear of everything they have known, is thrown upside down.

And this is what happened to Russia, when the USSR broke, and explains a lot.

Good perspective, thank you.

I’ve been thinking of this lately, in terms of democratic reforms, and the problems that surround DRASTIC policy changes.

ChrisXP

If a society is built upon extremism, it will fall accordingly. This is evident throughout time.

The USSR failed because the original Marxist thought was good on paper, but it didn’t factor in human nature (a very corrupt being). They used a country as a living experiment of beliefs that not only defy human nature even it’s basic needs to survive (i.e., food for example), then add all the corruption, it was bound to fail. Collective thought, can and often does, lead to collective destruction.

The USA is also great experiment in itself. It has survived because folks of different beliefs try to make the “great society on the hill” worthwhile. It’ll try to not spam the Constitution. It’ll judiciously guard it’s society from radicals, too. It works because of MODERATION.

A society that is free-thinking, values devise ideals, yet is under some semblence of order (to keep different viewpoints alive), is the successful society, and in return, has a practical government (not Utopia, as there will never be concensus of what IS Utopia).

Nation building and maintaining it is very difficult business. Cool heads with cooler minds need to prevail.

CK

Really??
So the throwing away of the US constitution in just 8 years is a long term commitment?
Patriot Act 1 and 2
Military Commissions act
Dozens of National Security letters and directives and orders
Dozens of “signing statements” invalidating the constitution is reasoned slow and steady reform?
America threw out the old once before in the late 1700′s, then threw away the republic in the 1860′s, then threw away the remnants of the republic in 1913. And in just 8 short years have thrown away your freedoms, your liberties, your creator given rights.
There are not enough yardarms to hang the current bastards from, we will have to recycle the yardarms. Unfortunately given the USA’s current economic condition we will have to import both the tar and the feathers with dollars worth less than the dead trees they were made from. ( we could modernize, instead of tar we could use governmentally subsidized High Fructose Corn Syrup and instead of feathers we could use governmentally subsidized peanut shells)

ChrisXP

This is NORMAL.

For every extreme there is a counter extreme, which in turn gives the State, MODERATION.

Two poles exist, because without them no one would know what MODERATION means.

What’s important is finding a happy medium. A society can’t operate as an anarchy; nor for long a fascist state. It’ll wax and wane between the two over time, but the needle will fall between the extremes eventually (as it’s the comfortable medium, and humans prefer it).

There’s some practical things this country has to come to terms with, as the world has changed. No longer is there a “gentleman’s agreement” that two enemies won’t destroy each other (USSR vs USA). Our new enemy has no such agreements and we can’t return to 9/10/2001 again. There will be some checks in freedom so the society can survive.

How we as a society will compromise that is for time to settle (again long-term reforms will take time). But what was before won’t return, until our society can be safe again.

CK

What new enemy?
China? They don’t need to do shit, they already own us. From screws nuts and bolts to motherboards and iphones. And they are getting a bit tired of losing 10% a year on our debt to them.
Japan? They have given us all the carry trade loans necessary to destroy the US financial sector. 30% of the homes are expected to be underwater ( owe more on the mortgage than the house is worth). Jingle mail is the new black.
Russia? They are laughing with every cubic foot and every barrel of energy they sell for currencies other than the dollar.
Iran? Ah I love the UN too. Meanwhile Russia and China have done long term deals with Iran in the energy sector. No Iranian oil or NatGas coming to the US. We don’t have any foreign currency to buy the stuff with.
Venezuela? After the USA tried to overthrow the government there using the same hamhanded tactics it used in Guatemala and Iran, the venezuelans are selling their oil to their friends. Of which we ain’t one. ( but they did find a kennedy to help them give the stuff to poor folks sitting in the cold )
Pakistan? Yeah that should be fun. Musharev is not long for the chair there.
This Sharif guy looks to be in the Saudi pocket not the US lint holder. Bhutto now she would have been in every pocket but she is kissing Bill Buckley now.
So who exactly is our enemy? Bin Laden and a couple of hundred friends who are actually winning their war against us by making us a bankrupt laughing stock with the aid of their bestest buddy GWB?
Or maybe you mean the whole rest of the world which has gotten awfully tired of the self righteous murdering and plundering the USA indulges in?

I notice that a small crew of American warships is now heading for the Lebanese Coast. I suspect that Israel is looking for a mulligan on that last fiasco with Hezullah and needs some Barry Bonds types to make it work. Ironic in that the Cole is the lead ship. Hope they changed capitans.. Or is the Cole there to support genocide and “holocaust” planned for Ghaza and Palestine. That is what the USA has been reduced to, enablers and supporters of genocide. Why it almost feels like the late 30′s again, when Rooseveldt refused the European jews entry to the USA. Couldn’t upset Germany then can’t upset Israel now.
You trade your freedoms for some false sense of theatrical security you get no freedoms and a bad review.

ChrisXP

You trade your freedoms in an anarchy, too.

Radicalism is no solution. It’s a destruction.
TeakWoodKite

the Cole …Syria? as a Checking move?

CK

Larry has a posting up on the Cole now.
Options): 1) Support evacuation of non-lebanese.
2) Intimidate Syria ( Lebanon has postponed its political spoils division 15 times now and the US approved lebanese all blame Syria.
3) Support for Israeli mulligan against Lebanon.
4) Intimidate Hezbullah out of reacting to further Israeli genocide of Palestine and Ghaza.
5) Support an Israeli first strike on Iran when the UNSecurity council fails to endorse further sanctions.
6) Gulf of Tonkin redux with better videos.
I know only that one of the ships is a GM destroyer the Cole, don’t know what the other ships might be. Navy playing coy.
The strategic oil reserve in the USA is about full. Good for a few weeks of support for the military in a situation where middle eastern oil supplies go to zero. Mexican production is falling precipitiously. American domestic production likewise. Other than Canada who we now have that mutual invasion deal with, the USA is in a precarious position.

Fred C. Dobbs

>>> There are not enough yardarms to hang the current bastards from, we will have to recycle the yardarms

I have been advocating similar use of the lamp posts on the Key Bridge for two or three years now. DON’T cut the miscreants down. Let all those gov’t employees get a look at (and whiff of) the logical and correct result of corruption in doing the Peoples’ business.

Jefferson might allow it, as an extension of that, “Watering the Three of Liberty,” idea.

Fred C. Dobbs

ERRATA

“Tree” vice “Three.”

Fat finger morning…
http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

Where’s Key Bridge, Fred?

Btw, from now on, you will be known here as Freddie Fat Fingers. (It’s cool — kinda has a Sopranos-ish ring to it.)

P.S. LET’S NOT FORGET that O’Bambi, when asked by Katie Couric in December which was the most dangerous country on the planet, instantly said, “Iran!”

HRC, when asked the same, said, “Pakistan.”

O’Bambi sops up that Neo-con, Republican bullshit.

Fred C. Dobbs

There are two, actually.

The bridge to which I refer crosses the Potomac, connecting Rosslyn with Georgetown. I used to run across it, back when I used to run…I think Trickee Dickee’s first term.

Lotsa professional pols and Civil Serpents* cross it on their way to K Street.

The “other” Key Bridge is in the Baltimore area, and crosses the Patapsco River.

* Had a female boss who, we speculated, suffered from Multiple Personaloty Disorder. We called her, “The Sybil Serpent,” when she wasn’t looking and listening.

http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

Bet you were a kick in the shorts in the office. I’d have been shooting coffee outta my mouth listening to you.

Fred C. Dobbs

>>> Btw, from now on, you will be known here as Freddie Fat Fingers. (It’s cool — kinda has a Sopranos-ish ring to it.)

Given my love for tuna and naps, my POSSLQ calls me, “Fat Freddie’s Cat,” but that’s a pretty obscure reference, unless one is an underground comix fan.

RE: Da Sopranos

Tony for SecDef!

Simon

In all the days I’ve been posting as a conservative, the ONLY racist comments I’ve gotten were from card-carrying Dems. Sorry to burst your own bigoted views, but that’s the truth.

But like the South, this is only true as long as you know your place.

Uppities, no matter whom, when asserting themselves, their rights, (gays, women, blacks, any minority) they can’t stand, that’s when the big guns come out.

Rush is singing, what ” Obama the Magic Negro, Femiazi Tool?”

That’s a racist swipe, dressed up in the right to free sppech, and a load of shit on Rush’s part, to claim anything else.

But it is Rush’s right.

And it’s my right, as well as anyone elses, to call him on it.

ChrisXP

What place? Do you actually live in the South to know of “this place”? I was born and raised in the South, and don’t see such “places.”

What “big guns”? The opposite extreme? The same upperity types who wish to tell others, “what’s best for you”?

What I find ironic is Rush is popular because how many Dems and Liberals listen to his show (and give him more publicity than even the GOP and conservatives do). I don’t, as I sure don’t need his talking points to tell me what conservatism is and isn’t. Just as I don’t need Daily KoS and other liberal outlets to tell me what liberalism is and isn’t.

I wouldn’t want Rush to tell me what’s right for myself or “my people” or “my ideology”; as as any liberal commentator.

That’s MY decision to make.

chris

I completely agree about the apocryphal racism in the White Left. And in my history on this subject, many of my friends who are “left” have experienced more racism from their left male counterparts than the rednecks we are surrounded by in Houston. They know that the rednecks are filled with old bigotry, but they don’t mask it in panders like “progressives” do.

Examples were easy to see when ‘white progressives’ would pressure a black or latino member of a governance body or organization to vote the way they saw it, even though these folks didn’t agree. Then ‘white progressives’ would throw down the race card about ‘loyalty’ to their community. One friend nailed it, “oh you want to end segregation of my community until that segregation benefits you. i’m a member of that community when it suits you’.

It is a good area for so called ‘progressives’ to explore in their ranks and themselves. Do they harbor hidden racial expectations and assumptions?

Watch how the politically correct dance around about calling Asian people, ‘orientals’ or ‘asians’, or whether to call people ‘Latino’ or ‘hispanic’.

The US has a lot of progress to make, and I don’t doubt these folks are sincere about wanting an egalitarian society. Pointing at a Redneck and saying, “racist” doesn’t require a whole lot of thought or concept. Asking, “how do I foster racism and sexism?” might be the best way for ‘progressives’ to start dealing with the issue.

vee

Obama is the wedge issue the Republicans need in the fall to get out the vote. Any qualms Republicans may have about voting McCain will be obscured by their fear of Obama. Obama’s wins are being fueled in part by Republicans. The Democrats have been “punk’d.”
http://questionbarackobama.blogspot.com Steven B.

I know of two articles written by Rove “commenting” on Obama, and my take on them is he is essentially warning the Democrats that he already has Obama dialed out for future attacks and ultimate failure.

And actually, I thought it was quite generous of Rove, to be so forthcoming about how easily he could slay Obama with a smear campaign to be waged if Obama in nominated to lead the Dems.

Carl Rove: The New Truth-i-ness?

READ HERE

and

AND HERE

More articles compiled at:
http://quesiontionbarackobama.blogspot.com

ritamary

Karl Rove can feel free to describe his anti-Obama strategies in detail. Why not? How many voters even know or care who Karl Rove is? Voters say they want “change,” and “hope”.

Voters cannot be bothered with such time-consuming activities like actually investigating a candidate’s voting record, associates and campaign contributors, or the opposition’s strategies. How dare anyone suggest doing such hard work!
http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

Karl can be fascinating. He’s a commentator on Fox now, and I’ve seen him a few times …. undeniably a smart man who knows, gawd, almost every precinct in the nation.

He always delivers a heavy zinger against Obama. And has the goods / quotes / sources.

P.S. Some of us are planning to watch Hannity’s show on Sunday … he’s gonna lay into Obama. (We’re not stupid. We know who Hannity is. But he’s been going after Obama non-stop. The other night, Hannity must have mentioned Bill Ayers and Lewis Farrakhan at least 8-9 times. HAMMERING on Ayers and Farrakhan. Oh, a general election fight against Obama would be devastating to watch.

Kathleen

Karl Rove should be in Federal prison for being part of the scheeming team that outed Plame. His crimes are endless.

Why the MSM allows him into our living rooms to spew more of his poison is criminal

Andy

Larry: this was another excellent article I read a while ago from CityEdition. Must read if you ahven’t

http://thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
Andy

Oopss; I guess now is the same aricle but updated….
sorry didn’trealized they changedthe original one in their website.
http://www.despair.com/ambition.html Smilin’ Jim

Family has been a factor in conservative politics from the very birth of the current wave.

William Buckley brother-in-law & accomplice at the National Review, Brent Bozell (Joe McCarthy speechwriter, no less!!), wrote Conscience Of A Conservative for Goldwater as well as the speech that Why Not Victory? was based upon.
AF

Can anyone here YouTube? On CNN just now Obama was just using Bush’s line from 2004: You may not aways agree with me, but you’ll always know where I stand.

Frostback

yikes!

The Oracle

The next thing we’ll learn is that Karl Rove has been secretly advising Barack Obama’s campaign.

Anyway, I’m from Texas and voted for Hillary Clinton in my state’s early-voting primary the other day.

I know lady who has an arch-conservative husband, she listens to Rush Limbaugh daily while he watches Faux News. She said she was going to vote for Barack Obama in the primary, although she wasn’t going to vote for him in November if he won the nomination.

I realized then that any election results next week from Texas will probably be skewed, with many Republicans pulling the same stunt, choosing to not vote in the Republican primary (since John McCain looks like he has the Republican nomination sewed up), and crossing over to vote for Obama in the Democratic primary…because these Republicans really, really don’t like Hillary Clinton…because they really, really believe all the foul lies aimed at Bill and Hillary Clinton over the years.

I don’t know if the same thing is happening in Ohio, but it is obvious to me that Republicans want their candidate to face Barack Obama in November, and not the honorable Sen. Hillary Clinton. That should tell liberal, progressive Democrats something. Is Barack Obama just a Trojan Horse????
ybnormal

On the one hand, I can see how some Republican groups might have an agenda to torpedo Dems by supporting Obama.

On the other hand, the CityEdition article reads like a translation of a script from “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”.

Right off the bat, the quoted section,
“…it was Fox that called Florida for Bush, even though the other networks declared Gore the winner, citing the exit polls. How Fox knew the polls were wrong in advance of the vote tabulation has never been explained.”

The mistake in the premise is that Fox couldn’t have known the exit polls were wrong, because they were not wrong. Later on, a consortium of news organizations sponsered a complete recount, and found that by any counting standard, Gore won; coincidentaly like the exit polls showed. It got little attention, as it was buried under 9/11 and Iraq stories, and drums beating for war fever.

Then there’s the Rhodes brothers. Might be something there, but then again, it doesn’t mean the ‘family’ is out to get us. Don’t know much about Ben, but from a little internet poking around, he doesn’t sound like such a terrible guy.

Some Republicans and some Democrats alike may believe that Obama would be easier to beat than Clinton, and they may even end up being right. But just as well worth considering, is how often Obama does better than Clinton in polls versus McCain.

Also consider that if Ben Rhodes really is part of the torpedo agenda, then it’s just a short jump to say Obama is too, since he hired him.
Kyle

I think all Hillary supporter should stick together and whatever you can do to help her get nominated like making phone calls to your friends and family in other states. And don’t pay attention to the bias media. Nobama Hssein Hussein Hussein Barrack!

Go Hillary!!!!!