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Obama’s Judgment on the Eve of Judgment Day

By Larry Johnson on March 1, 2008 at 1:14 PM in Current Affairs

Although NoQuarter has made a concerted effort to focus attention on Barack Obama’s lack of experience and questionable judgment, it appears that the main steam media finally is starting to ask some questions that should have been raised months ago. Consider Barack’s stance on Afghanistan. For almost a year, Barack has been pretty clear about the policy he would pursue. During a speech in August 2007 at the Woodrow Wilson Center, Barack said:

It is time to turn the page. When I am President, we will wage the war that has to be won, with a comprehensive strategy with five elements: getting out of Iraq and on to the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan; developing the capabilities and partnerships we need to take out the terrorists and the world’s most deadly weapons; engaging the world to dry up support for terror and extremism; restoring our values; and securing a more resilient homeland.

He went on to say with respect to Afghanistan:

As President, I would deploy at least two additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counter-terrorism operations and support NATO’s efforts against the Taliban. As we step up our commitment, our European friends must do the same, and without the burdensome restrictions that have hampered NATO’s efforts. We must also put more of an Afghan face on security by improving the training and equipping of the Afghan Army and Police, and including Afghan soldiers in U.S. and NATO operations.

We must not, however, repeat the mistakes of Iraq. The solution in Afghanistan is not just military — it is political and economic. As President, I would increase our non-military aid by $1 billion. These resources should fund projects at the local level to impact ordinary Afghans, including the development of alternative livelihoods for poppy farmers. And we must seek better performance from the Afghan government, and support that performance through tough anti-corruption safeguards on aid, and increased international support to develop the rule of law across the country.

So what is the problem? I think these are sound positions. However, if Barack genuinely believed what he was saying, why did he not use his status as the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee on European Affairs to examine the validity of using NATO in Afghanistan?

This is not a bullshit question. The U.S. decision to turn to NATO to help us out in Afghanistan was old news by the time Barack became chairman in 2007. NATO started ramping up troops in Afghanistan in December 2005. When January 2007 rolled around Barack was in a unique position, by virtue of his chairmanship, to do a series of hearings that, for example, on the challenges facing the United States in Afghanistan and the viability of relying on NATO. But Barack says he was “too busy” running for President.

Sorry, but that is a lame excuse. Are we expected to believe that he was incapable of putting together at least one hearing that would have helped burnish his limited foreign policy credentials? This is more than a tactical mistake. For me it is a question of his judgment and his political vision. This smacks of someone who is so intellectually lazy or incurious that he failed to recognize the opportunity dropped into his lap. He wants to run for President. Foreign policy issues are a critical part of the upcoming campaign. And what does he do to bolster that part of a thin resume? Nothing.

Unfortunately, this flaw in judgment is not isolated to his failure to hold a hearing. It appears to be a consistent theme in his political life. He has more than a passing friendship with an unrepentant terrorist, William Ayers. And he goes into a questionable real estate deal with one of his political supporters and fundraisers, Tony Rezko, when Rezko is facing imminent indictment on Federal corruption charges. Folks with sound political instincts would know to avoid these kind of situations. It looks wrong and in politics perception matters.

But Barack’s problems, particularly with Rezko, go beyond a simple matter of perception. CNN identified some of the looming pitfalls:

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And this Rezko problem in all likelihood will get worse for Obama in the coining weeks. Tony’s trial starts on Monday. He’s up against Patrick Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald already has sent a former Illinois Republican governor to jail on corruption charges. He also beat a massive propaganda campaign in Washington to exonerate Scooter Libby and convicted him on perjury and obstruction of justice for his role in outing Valerie Plame. Fitzgerald is not likely to fail.

Rezko does not have George Bush behind him with a tacit offer of a pardon. Rezko does not have a group of prominent Washington and political luminaries willing to make excuses for his crimes as did Scooter Libby. Rezko faces significant fines and jail time. A man under that kind of pressure will have no second thoughts about throwing other people under the bus. Senator Obama, who received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Rezko in his previous campaigns, who had a real estate deal with him, who intervened on his behalf on government matters, is very likely to get dirtied up in this trial. As the political season enters June, the American people may be asking the question, how venal is Obama?

I do not begrudge Barack his ambition. He is a shrewd politician. But I also see a consistent pattern of flawed judgment. Not holding hearings on what NATO could or should do in Afghanistan and buying property with a guy who is the target of a Federal corruption probe are radically different issues but reflect the same lack of sound judgment. Obama’s questionable judgment on these issues outweigh his 2002 opposition to the war in Iraq in my book.

Regardless of what happens in the upcoming Tuesday primaries, these issues will not go away. And as the public learns more about the real Barack Obama, the bloom on his rose is likely to fade and fade dramatically.

  • MarkL

    Larry,
    Isn’t it the case that after the failure to capture Bin Laden at Tora Bora, the good military options against Al Qaeda significantly diminished?
    If we go after AQ now, there’s no way to avoid invading part of Pakistan as well, right?
    Isn’t that too risky?
    For comparison, look at Saudi Arabia. There’s no question that KSA is the number 1 funder of anti-US terrorism, but no one talks about invading there, because it’s obviously insane.

    • Simon

      The KSA OWNS our politicians, they won’t invade, ever. And I just can’t see Osama ever being captured, either, given his family connections.

      But sometimes…

      Are you aware of how many billions, trillions of Saudi money is invested in American interests, how much was lent to Bush, personally, to bail out his many business failures?

      And how ’bout the bama?

      Business for those American men trumps everything, all that Carlyle group-like stuff is pertinent to understanding why specific government decisions have been made. The tendency is to blow it off — don’t, in this administration, they call the shots.
      It’s too disconcerting to think about, the fantasy of a Presidency free of obligation to the money men makes it much easier to breath. There will be more independence with Clinton, Obama was BRED by his financial backers. I mean, what is the difference between a Kos, say, and the head of the Carlyle group, in terms of what they want from a President?

      Nothing, except the Carlyle guy can BUY more, the motivations, the ambitions, the demands, are the same. They’re on the inside, you know, they all wanna be recognized by others as players…

      heh.

      What did Bush and Cheney say about treating the US government like a corporation?

      And good corporate employees, such as Bush and Cheney, and Obama, kiss the boss’s ass, right?

      And the Saudi money is the boss.

      If you were to look at the last 8 years as having been guided by the Saudi government, or OPEC, it would probably put much in perspective.

      And I would say that includes KEEPING the US military in the middle east.

  • Andy

    Larry, Susan and All: I think this is important. If you frezze teh image on the CNN video replaying the SC debate I Think (please check this out) you can watch
    Lewis applauding Hillary for the comment !!!!
    It’s is not very clear if you watch the faces while applaudig, rather you neeed to focus on the hands doing the clapping.

    If I am right, isn’t that something intersting???

  • yellow dog dem

    I guess this was shown once on CNN a while back. Of course if this Clinton, it would have been shown 24 hours a day with endless discussion on its impact on her political career. Another case of the media in the tank for Obama.

  • Andy

    I wrote to the Clinton campaign that they *have to* expose immediately Obama’s flimsy claim on “Judgment”
    based on a single speech to his constituency on an anti-war rally.

    The need to put out an Ad that nails him for failing to fulfill his duty as chairman of the FR
    subcommitttee on Europe.

    “That is a dereliction of duty to the American people”

    Clinton MUST expose him publicly with this and raise the question of how can this mean “Judgment” or “Leadership” ?

    She has to ask : how can you trust Obama with the presidency when he failed you in the US Senate
    with the single most imporant thing he was ever entrusted with as a US Senator?.

    They need an Ad on this TODAY…. How can we help with this?

  • ChrisXP

    Larry,

    Short and sweet: O-Bomba is a Neo-Con. Same talk of Empire and messing with other countries’ internal affairs.

    All we should’ve done was get OBL, and leave. If Afghanistan needed help, they’d have to ask for it. Much like the Japanese asked the West for help with the Meji Restoration process. Unless the country asks for such help, they will NEVER fully appreciate the “assistance”, and will be our bane for decades.

    This mindset escapes political ideologies who believe “shoring up” countries is a “good thing”. Often when they do so, they also bring in their social values and more, that THEIR nationalists would resent — thus, causing the bane I referred, too.

    Our only responsibility is to help our own citizens. We aren’t world police; we aren’t the world wide bank; we’re not the welfare giver, either. Other nations have to learn to help themselves, not keep being dependent on the USA (and use us as their nationalistic punching bag, in the process).

  • ckrantz

    Interesting considering the amount of time the next US president will have to spend dealing with NATO, Europe and the whole Afghanistan-Pakistan mess. With NATO further involved than ever in Pakistan GWB seems to be destined to leave 2 large regional conflicts and the faith of NATO to the next president.

    And Obama by the way I belive said he would attack inside Pakistan with or without approval from the Pakistani government if there was actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets?

    • Simon

      Interesting considering the amount of time the next US president will have to spend dealing with NATO, Europe and the whole Afghanistan-Pakistan mess. With NATO further involved than ever in Pakistan GWB seems to be destined to leave 2 large regional conflicts and the faith of NATO to the next president

      You write this, I think of Obama, and I want to vomit.

      In no way can this man even begin to understand the scope of what is in front of him, wholly unqualified, it is my impression, like Bush, he isn’t even aware of the complexities.

      Since his political successes were always handed to him, has he ever even been in a fight?

      You know, the type who thinks governing American affairs the world over as president is as easy as rolling over Pelosi?

      heh.

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  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    It’s just a question. One I keep asking. And can’t figure out:

    IF I WERE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, and were on that fancy snazzy European/NATO committee — how haute is that?! — I’d hold me a hearing or two. With C-Span. Lights. Action. A couple hot witnesses! A very, very, very serious-sounding topic.

    Cuz it’d make me look all serious and on top of things.

    Just that reason alone.

    Why in the hell didn’t he do that?!

    The SOLE reason I can think of is that he assumes that the American people liked dumb George who talked the dope about hope, and bringing people together, and it’ll work for him too.

    Makes my all-serious hearing idea sound so silly. Who’d remember, after all?!

    Especially if they LIKE me.

    Back to the drawing board … gotta work on the charm, deep speaking voice, and Hopi rhetoric.

    • AF

      Thanks to Hillary asking why Obama held no subcommittee hearings to date, he finally started talking about NATO on the campaign trail:

      US presidential candidate Barack Obama dropped another hint about his foreign-policy thinking on Thursday, saying European governments had to pull their weight in Afghanistan and not rely so much on the United States to do the “dirty work” against Taliban fighters.

      So far Obama hasn’t said much about America’s posture toward Europe, but the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination set a new tone on his campaign plane by telling reporters there had to be more give and take between Washington and its NATO allies.

      “I’ve been very clear that we do need more support from them,” he said, referring to NATO countries with troops in Afghanistan. “We also may need to lift some of the constraints that they have placed on their forces there.”

      He didn’t name any countries. But Germany, Italy and Spain have been under pressure from NATO and the administration of US President George W. Bush (more…) to devote more soldiers to risky missions in Afghanistan.

      What’s he going to do without Hillary tutoring him all the time?

      • Simon

        He didn’t name any countries. But Germany, Italy and Spain have been under pressure from NATO and the administration of US President George W. Bush (more…) to devote more soldiers to risky missions in Afghanistan.

        Except the Bush administration created this mess, and it did, and the Europeans shouldn’t be obligated to throw money, and lives away, putting their resources in the hands of a bunch of American morons who can’t tell their asses from a hole in the ground, who also appear to take their orders from the men who give them, and their business partners, money.

        If only the Obamabots could see this clearly…

        Oh, this is gonna get bad.

        • AF

          Some will wake up over the summer, and they’ll say we just had no idea, Obama kept this so well hidden. No, it’s the press that kept it hidden.

      • ckrantz

        Interesting, there’s been very little in the MSM on the continuation of war in Afghanistan, or Iraq. And the dkos people seems to think all American troops will be withdrawn on the inauguration day of President Obama. The reality disconnect seems to be in full force at the moment.

        • ckrantz

          And BTW very few people in the campaigns seems to have noticed that the whole Gaza, Israel-Palestine, Lebanon and Syria situation is about to blow with an Israeli invasion of Gaza. Creating a third regional warzone.

          • TeakWoodKite

            ckrantz,

            MSM is so self involved; they are universe unto themselves…didn’t anyone tell them to watch their own tickers?

            The GWB’s used this condition like a dog whistle, seems like ceo’s of the media are just as patriotic as the telcom ceo’s are.

            The President also today signed an executive order to create the White House Office of Global Communications, which is a reflection of the importance the President attaches in this modern era to communicating worldwide the message of the American people and the American government, particularly as we face a war involving terrorism and other great issues involving diplomacy and the importance of communicating America’s message of idealism and hope around the world.

            http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030121-7.html

  • AF

    OK, after all this talk of how middle-class the Obamas are, their mansion in Chicago says otherwise.

    • AF
      • TeakWoodKite

        Hey it beats sleeping in alley;

        Mr. Obama arrived in New York in August 1981, at age 20, from Occidental College in Los Angeles. According to his memoir, he passed his first night in an alley near 109th Street and Amsterdam Avenue, unable to get into his apartment. The next morning, he bathed at a hydrant alongside a homeless man.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html
        This artical says Obama had an “un-named roommate”, that would be an interesting tidbit to know.

        Larry: “And this Rezko problem in all likelihood will get worse for Obama in the coining weeks.” Cool typo, can I use it? Considering it is all about “making money”. Thanks for the concise light on how reckless he is.

  • Kathleen

    Great points Larry. Scary times when a soccer mom from Ohio is getting on national talk shows repeating what I am hearing from my friend from Aghanistan studying here in the states on a Fulbright.

    Hell I have been hearing from Haroon for several years now that the situation in Afghanistan was getting really bad. (he talks with his father who is a retired Bridadier General in Afghanistan). Haroon’s father has said that he often wonders if the Bush administration wants to fail in Afghanistan. They wonder when the U.S. will really put money into Afghanistan’s infrastructure, subsidize (they think for five years) poppy farmers so they can switch to growing other crops that were destroyed during the war with Russia.

    The stories I hear from him about what is taking place for the Afghani people continues to be deeply disturbing.

    The U.S. has spent 25 billion in Afghanistan since we invaded that country. Compare that to the 9 billion a month we are spending in Iraq. Who is that going to. Contractors?

    This morning on C-Span a reporter from the New York Times. Her article

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/magazine/24afghanistan-t.html?ref=magazine&pagewanted=all

    The interview on C-span with Elizabeth was informative today March 1 the link is not up.

    They also had Joseph Steglitz on C-span this morning. He was discussing his new book “The Three Trillion Dollar War” This book sounds like a must read.

    http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/77663/
    Steiglitz your rips through the horse shit. This mornings program was a good watch.

    Susan the Naftagate issue was brought up although did not go very far…it was mentioned on Washington Journal a wee bit.

    • Kathleen

      I meant to say why the fuck is a soccer mom trying harder to bring attention to the deterioating situation in Afghanistan than Senator Obama who as Larry has pointed out has a “unique position” and should be holding hearings on this very serious issue over the last several years. Senator Obama has been to busy running for Prez

      Do something with your “unique position” for heavens sake, hold some hearings (Kucinich and Conyers rip in this area of holding hearings)…make a stand, get off the fence with your finger in the air.

      Do Something

    • Simon

      Haroon’s father has said that he often wonders if the Bush administration wants to fail in Afghanistan

      The Bush administration is that incompetent.

      Don’t buy into the meme they do these things on purpose, lose.

      They’re really dumb, simplistic, neocon warped thinkers, not capable of comprehending the complexities of the world they face, to make ANY plan work.

      Really simplistic stupid men, specious narcissistic.

      All forms of fascism and destruction are denial, the more an individual policy is in denial, the more it wants to control, putting control into the hands of the few, the more it is bound to fail, ie no totalitarian govt has ever had a long life expectancy.

      They have an extremely limited perspective, culturally and intellectually unsophisticated, lacking all incisive, critical thought. Obama is just as ignorant as Bush.

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        This administration could, collectively, fuck up an anvil.

        And has.

        • http://www.despair.com/ambition.html Smilin’ Jim

          “fuck up an anvil”

          I used to do board work for a firm that made tractor accessories like 8 foot wide rototillers.

          Their design philosophy was “give a farmer a cannon ball and you’ll get it back bent”.

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        >>> They’re really dumb, simplistic, neocon warped thinkers, not capable of comprehending the complexities of the world they face, to make ANY plan work.

        In that topic:

        http://www.fredoneverything.net/IllusionofCompetence.shtml

      • Kathleen

        They are not that dumb. I truly believe as my friend Peggy Gish (who has been in Iraq close to four years since before the invasion of Iraq and after) that it could easily be that the Bush administration and the neocons want chaos in the middle east. Collective disorientation.

        Get rid of Iraq’s history, send in to few troops, (what happened to the Powell doctrine) allow their history to be destroyed, disband the army, send in plenty of outside contractors, allow sectarian violence to take place without interruption etc etc. Rent the film “No End in Sight”. This film confirmed everything I had been hearing from Peggy for the last five years.

        I think they intended to have death destruction and confusion. They are not stupid they are psychopaths…they are war criminals.

  • AF

    Really telling that Obama brushes this off as a “bone-headed” move on his part. Great. From one bone-headed president to another, just what we needed.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      I’ve always “received” the “bone-headed” comment as a conscious attempt to admit, ah shucks, that was silly and I’d never do that again.

      He’s trying to minimize it, imho.

  • joey

    It sounds so much like the rhetoric before we invaded Iraq. More wars against terrorists by military action. This should all have been a police matter as it is a group and not a country we are pursuing. Once and for all people…OBL is dead and buried. Al qaeda might as well be lead by Dr. No (from Bond series). The war profiteers don’t care who we invade as long as they can keep up the military conflict they will. What happened to the pursuit of peace and diplomacy. As a plan of action, talk of invasion and the use of military force is what Americans are trying to avoid. We will always be pursuing terrorists as will most of the world but to invade other countries seems like exactly what these terrorists want us to do…get buried in quagmires, and going broke doing it. Obama gives the impression that he is against war and military aggression yet his comments tell a different story.
    btw…the only thing coming out of the Rezko story is Obama showed poor judgement but to push this story as if there is more there only makes Obama look like a victim being smeared…It would be more appropriate to just drop it from the ‘big deal’ list.

    • Simon

      Al qaeda might as well be lead by Dr. No (from Bond series).

      Or Dr Evil, from the Austin Powers series.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Obama look like a victim being smeared.

      He is a victim of his own greed.

  • Simon

    btw…the only thing coming out of the Rezko story is Obama showed poor judgement but to push this story as if there is more there only makes Obama look like a victim being smeared…It would be more appropriate to just drop it from the ‘big deal’ list.

    You ARE funny.

    That simply won’t happen, Obama’s relationship to Auchi makes him an internal security risk to the United States.

    It is very, very serious.

    Poor foo, you try.

  • reggie

    It’s all over bar the fat lady singing. Thank God!

    Hopefully we can now get down to real issues, like getting our troops the hell out of the middle-east.

    • Simon

      It’s all over bar the fat lady singing. Thank God!

      No, it’s just started really, but at least the managers have turned in the batting orders.

      Oh, baseball starts, when, March 25th?

  • Taters

    Great points, Larry.

    Contrast this –
    Wes Clark announced his presidential candidacy on Sept. 17, 2003 to run in 2004. I was proud to have been a small part of the DraftClark movement.

    In Dec. of 2003, during his campaign, Clark was testifying against Milosevic in Den Hague. Clark didn’t complain that there was an unprecendented blackout imposed by Bush who feared Clark as a candidate. The public gallery was cleared and it was a closed session. This had only been done in the past to protect victims when they testified.
    As the Oklahoma Daily reported:

    “The Bush administration has imposed heavy secrecy and censorship measures on the testimony of retired Gen. Wesley Clark, the former NATO commander seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, when he takes the stand later this month at the war crimes trial of Slobodan Milosevic.

    The administration’s action will blunt the drama of what many expected to be crucial moment in Milosevic’s lengthy trial and perhaps one of the defining moments in the presidential campaign of Clark, who defeated the Yugoslav leader in the Kosovo campaign.

    At the insistence of State Department’s legal office, the courtroom’s public gallery will be cleared when Clark is called to testify Dec. 15 and 16 in The Hague. Cameras that normally broadcast the proceedings on closed circuit television and the Internet will be blacked out.”

    http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i16censorship.htm

    You know, at one time, not that long ago, I was leaning Obama.

    What the heck ever happened to this guy?
    http://obama.senate.gov/blog/050930-tone_truth_and_the_democratic_party/

    • TeakWoodKite

      From Taters link;

      CAFTA will help American workers more than it will harm them.

      Sen Obama.

  • SirScud

    Just stopped by to see how the faux Hillary supporters were handling their string of recent successes. It looks like you folks are running out of talking points! Oh well, maybe the next time the people decide to have a populist uprising, the stupidos will outnumber those pesky over educated American youth and a closet Conservative can obfuscate and double talk their way into office.
    I am a superdelegate, and I approve this message.

    • Mike Howell

      Scud -

      So are a lot of other idiots. The ones I know ask me for money all of the time.

      Have fun with a couple thousand other folks!

      • Simon

        Just stopped by to see how the faux Hillary supporters were handling their string of recent successes

        Actually, uncovering Auchi, and understanding, clearly, why certain decisions have been made by the Bush administration, and others, represents a breakthrough, a major breakthrough.

        Clearly identifying the problems has helped put the pieces in place.

        Because the real problems are the men like Auchi, right, and those who work for them?

        • John

          I’m impressed by the people here who could even understand that guy’s post.

          • SirScud

            John – There is an excellent chance that you are too easily impressed! Sort of like putting Kool-aid in a wine bottle, and thinking its Merlot.

        • SirScud

          Simon – What is “clearly understandable” is that selective memories have managed to forget about the bundling of illegal campaign contributions by convicted felons.
          Which of the proverbial “pieces” have you put in place. I seem to recall that the Clintons were opposed to the “politics of personal destruction”, what happened? Has there been an ethical flip-flop?
          The ‘Obama is a terrorist’ canard doesn’t seem to be catching on; you fools can’t even do slander without fucking it up!

      • SirScud

        Mike – More like 4 or 5 thousand as I understand it; but as you say, it should be fun.
        “Idiots” you say, looks like your fetid vitriol stew is boiling over! Keep it up, every nasty little stupid remark, engenders another vote for change!
        We don’t need your money, buy some kool-aid for your concession party!

  • anatol

    “Rezko does not have George Bush behind him with a tacit offer of a pardon.”
    Hmmm, maybe President Obama will be more charitable than this nasty W? We need to steer more contributions his way!

  • The Oracle

    Bush and Cheney: Destroyers of Democracy.

    There are two sides to any crisis; Crisis Creation and Crisis Management.

    Bush and Cheney (and their administration) have shown time and again that they are evil masters of Crisis Creation. The 9/11 attacks. The war in Iraq. The economy. The degradation of our military. Our Constitution and the rule of law. Outing a covert CIA officer, Valerie Plame Wilson. The aftermath of Hurrican Katrina and Hurricane Rita. Bush and Cheney have created one crisis after another, and their only response, in lieu of Crisis Management, is to try to hide what they’ve done (or neglected to do) from being discovered.

    Which means that the next president must be an exceptional Crisis Manager, to try to reverse the widespread damage done to our country by these two insane crisis creators, Bush and Cheney.

    I firmly believe that Hillary Clinton is the only one who is capable of managing the multiple crises that the next president will find on their table upon entering the White House in January 2009.

    While Barack Obama would probably welcome Donald Rumsfeld, and Joe Lieberman, into his inner circle, if elected president, looking to them for advice…even though these two arch-conservatives are Crisis Creators in the same poisonous vein as Bush and Cheney.

  • http://www.stop-obama.org Jamal McCoy

    You ask a very good question Larry. I doubt Rezko will spill the beans on Obama. I also doubt that the media will do much to cover Rezko and connect it to Obama.

    I hope to be wrong. As for Afghanistan, and Obama’s subcommittee work, we’ve recently touched on this on our blog, with Hillary Workhorse, Obama a Slacker.

    Call me an idealist, I still think Hillary will win the nomination.

    • chris

      You idealist!
      I hope so too. People are trying to kick her out, but he does not have the delegates needed to win. And the blow job going on right now for him is disgusting.

      Speaking of blow job,
      I told the Obama camp today, the only way you’ll get my vote in November, if you get the nomination, will be to try Bush and Cheney for war crimes. You need to have him announce that they will be held criminally responsible for their actions. I told them I gave them my word I’d vote for him, if he’d do that.

      Which means…if he was the nominee, I’ll get to vote for Nader of course. (and keep my word)

      Lobbiest: “what is the value of a starry eyed idealist”
      See: Trojan Horse

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