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		<title>By: xax</title>
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		<dc:creator>xax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would he have been able to kill as many people with an axe?

Would he have been able to kill as many people with explosives?

Would he have been able to kill as many people with a car?

Would he have been able to kill as many people with a bio weapon?

It doesn&#039;t matter.  The central problem is that the guy was psycho and wanted people dead.

Some counterpoints:

Since guns can&#039;t talk, how are guns enablers?  This like a person blaming the big mac for being fat!  The food is just there- what did you choose to do with it?  Did you eat 50 of them are throw them away.  And if someone thinks the gun is talking to them, then we know for sure they are not all there.

There&#039;s other mass murders- 9/11, oklahoma city, gas chambers, saddam hussein, etc  What was the main method of execution then?

True a gun is a weapon desdigned for killing but so is the bow, the knife, heck you can can even use a fork if you&#039;re in prison.  Again, the materials are all there- what do you choose to do with them?

Stop manufacturing??  The technology is out there.  Someone will manufacture it.  If it&#039;s not a law abiding industry then it will be the criminal.  A drug lord made forbes list.  Does anyone NOT think he could use that money to manufacture weapons?

And I&#039;m still trying to figure out what liberals, gay people, SUVs and recycling have to do with guns?  In fact it seems to me that you have a VERY NARROW view of people who own weapons and what type of people they are.  Projection much?  You do not have to won a weapon.  You can argue afainst it.  But I&#039;m just tired of the same old weak, political and bigoted arguments..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would he have been able to kill as many people with an axe?</p>
<p>Would he have been able to kill as many people with explosives?</p>
<p>Would he have been able to kill as many people with a car?</p>
<p>Would he have been able to kill as many people with a bio weapon?</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter.  The central problem is that the guy was psycho and wanted people dead.</p>
<p>Some counterpoints:</p>
<p>Since guns can&#8217;t talk, how are guns enablers?  This like a person blaming the big mac for being fat!  The food is just there- what did you choose to do with it?  Did you eat 50 of them are throw them away.  And if someone thinks the gun is talking to them, then we know for sure they are not all there.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s other mass murders- 9/11, oklahoma city, gas chambers, saddam hussein, etc  What was the main method of execution then?</p>
<p>True a gun is a weapon desdigned for killing but so is the bow, the knife, heck you can can even use a fork if you&#8217;re in prison.  Again, the materials are all there- what do you choose to do with them?</p>
<p>Stop manufacturing??  The technology is out there.  Someone will manufacture it.  If it&#8217;s not a law abiding industry then it will be the criminal.  A drug lord made forbes list.  Does anyone NOT think he could use that money to manufacture weapons?</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m still trying to figure out what liberals, gay people, SUVs and recycling have to do with guns?  In fact it seems to me that you have a VERY NARROW view of people who own weapons and what type of people they are.  Projection much?  You do not have to won a weapon.  You can argue afainst it.  But I&#8217;m just tired of the same old weak, political and bigoted arguments..</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17062/will-the-nra-say-he-could-have-used-a-knife/#comment-1157705</link>
		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shooter had a permit to carry a concealed weapon. And, gun sales have gone up more than 40% recently. And, there are new calls for assault weapons bans, but some dems say no way. Interesting update on the story from Samson Alabama...


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690314709013801.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shooter had a permit to carry a concealed weapon. And, gun sales have gone up more than 40% recently. And, there are new calls for assault weapons bans, but some dems say no way. Interesting update on the story from Samson Alabama&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690314709013801.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690314709013801.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17062/will-the-nra-say-he-could-have-used-a-knife/#comment-1157595</link>
		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we&#039;re lucky we can still have this conversation, so thanks to New Hampster for bringing it up. In &lt;strong&gt;some &lt;/strong&gt;places, the conversation alone is cause for investigation. I understand that safety comes first, but apparently, &lt;strong&gt;home invasion by the police &lt;/strong&gt;is okay if someone even &lt;strong&gt;mentions&lt;/strong&gt; the &quot;right to carry&quot; in some quarters. That should be cause for alarm among everyone here. 

3/11/2009

&lt;strong&gt;Did you know that at one Connecticut college, simply advocating for extending the Right to Carry onto college campuses is enough to get students referred to the campus police?&lt;/strong&gt;

It happened at Central Connecticut State University, after student John Wahlberg gave an assigned presentation on a &quot;relevant issue in the media.&quot; Mr. Wahlberg wanted to speak about school violence, and during his presentation he discussed Right-to-Carry on campus. According to the Recorder newspaper, after he &quot;made the point that if students were permitted to conceal carry guns [sic] on campus, the violence could have been stopped earlier in many of these cases,&quot; his professor lodged a complaint with the campus police.  

Mr. Wahlberg received a &quot;request&quot; to come down to the campus police department, where &lt;strong&gt;officers proceeded to rattle off a list of firearms that he legally owns, and asked him where he kept the guns. &lt;/strong&gt;

All because he dared mention Right-to-Carry.  

If the facts in the newspaper are accurate, this is outrageous. Expressing an opinion about Right-to-Carry on campus shouldn&#039;t lead to a police investigation. It should lead to a discussion and debate about the issue, but apparently that&#039;s too much to ask from the academics who hyperventilate at the thought of the Bill of Rights being enforced on college campuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we&#8217;re lucky we can still have this conversation, so thanks to New Hampster for bringing it up. In <strong>some </strong>places, the conversation alone is cause for investigation. I understand that safety comes first, but apparently, <strong>home invasion by the police </strong>is okay if someone even <strong>mentions</strong> the &#8220;right to carry&#8221; in some quarters. That should be cause for alarm among everyone here. </p>
<p>3/11/2009</p>
<p><strong>Did you know that at one Connecticut college, simply advocating for extending the Right to Carry onto college campuses is enough to get students referred to the campus police?</strong></p>
<p>It happened at Central Connecticut State University, after student John Wahlberg gave an assigned presentation on a &#8220;relevant issue in the media.&#8221; Mr. Wahlberg wanted to speak about school violence, and during his presentation he discussed Right-to-Carry on campus. According to the Recorder newspaper, after he &#8220;made the point that if students were permitted to conceal carry guns [sic] on campus, the violence could have been stopped earlier in many of these cases,&#8221; his professor lodged a complaint with the campus police.  </p>
<p>Mr. Wahlberg received a &#8220;request&#8221; to come down to the campus police department, where <strong>officers proceeded to rattle off a list of firearms that he legally owns, and asked him where he kept the guns. </strong></p>
<p>All because he dared mention Right-to-Carry.  </p>
<p>If the facts in the newspaper are accurate, this is outrageous. Expressing an opinion about Right-to-Carry on campus shouldn&#8217;t lead to a police investigation. It should lead to a discussion and debate about the issue, but apparently that&#8217;s too much to ask from the academics who hyperventilate at the thought of the Bill of Rights being enforced on college campuses.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The NRA is a special interest group with the goal of supporting the gun industry&lt;/em&gt;

Er....no. That is inaccurate. 

&lt;strong&gt;The NRA is a special interest group with the goal of protecting constitutional 2nd amendment rights.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The NRA is a special interest group with the goal of supporting the gun industry</em></p>
<p>Er&#8230;.no. That is inaccurate. </p>
<p><strong>The NRA is a special interest group with the goal of protecting constitutional 2nd amendment rights.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing, NH:

My training was provided by the police. A former police chief provided my classroom training at a local community college course; a currently serving police officer provided my marksmanship and safety training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, NH:</p>
<p>My training was provided by the police. A former police chief provided my classroom training at a local community college course; a currently serving police officer provided my marksmanship and safety training.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NewHampster&lt;/strong&gt;, your perspective on the NRA is seriously skewed. Now, calm down, take a deep breath. I&#039;m not an NRA member, I do own guns, I do have a carry license and my personal handgun is registered. For all of that, I had to undergo both state and federal &quot;bureau of investigation&quot; background checks, complete handgun training on safety and legal liability, as well as marksmanship. 

&lt;em&gt;Are we good so far? &lt;/em&gt;

The NRA promotes gun safety every day by providing training for hunters and gun owners. 

&lt;em&gt;Isn&#039;t that a good thing?&lt;/em&gt;

The NRA [like its counterparty the ACLU] is actively engaged in protecting the Constitutional rights of gun-owners, while promoting safety, training, and proper use of guns for protection and hunting. 

&lt;em&gt;So, give the devil his due on that at least. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>NewHampster</strong>, your perspective on the NRA is seriously skewed. Now, calm down, take a deep breath. I&#8217;m not an NRA member, I do own guns, I do have a carry license and my personal handgun is registered. For all of that, I had to undergo both state and federal &#8220;bureau of investigation&#8221; background checks, complete handgun training on safety and legal liability, as well as marksmanship. </p>
<p><em>Are we good so far? </em></p>
<p>The NRA promotes gun safety every day by providing training for hunters and gun owners. </p>
<p><em>Isn&#8217;t that a good thing?</em></p>
<p>The NRA [like its counterparty the ACLU] is actively engaged in protecting the Constitutional rights of gun-owners, while promoting safety, training, and proper use of guns for protection and hunting. </p>
<p><em>So, give the devil his due on that at least. </em></p>
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		<title>By: ces</title>
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		<dc:creator>ces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, my thanks to you, as well. :x)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, my thanks to you, as well. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NRA is not the problem, the problem is stupid people. Lets ban matches, he set fire to his mothers house.  Lets ban the automobile, he used it to go and get his ammo.  What happened is sad, but the gun is not the problem, its the loose nut on the grip of the gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRA is not the problem, the problem is stupid people. Lets ban matches, he set fire to his mothers house.  Lets ban the automobile, he used it to go and get his ammo.  What happened is sad, but the gun is not the problem, its the loose nut on the grip of the gun.</p>
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		<title>By: lark</title>
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		<dc:creator>lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good point. That introduction was out of line and uncalled for. An unnecessary irritant. 

NewHampster, I apologize for making that assumption against you. Sorry. Your position about prayer in school, abortion and stem cell research is unknown to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point. That introduction was out of line and uncalled for. An unnecessary irritant. </p>
<p>NewHampster, I apologize for making that assumption against you. Sorry. Your position about prayer in school, abortion and stem cell research is unknown to me.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew191</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew191</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately SM, moments after I posted that it struck me that it would have been better if I had written &quot;In the land of the blind, a one eyed man will RULE. In an unarmed land, the one armed man WRITES the rules.&quot; Due to the internet pressure for haste, my ponderous thoughts sometimes lag and suffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately SM, moments after I posted that it struck me that it would have been better if I had written &#8220;In the land of the blind, a one eyed man will RULE. In an unarmed land, the one armed man WRITES the rules.&#8221; Due to the internet pressure for haste, my ponderous thoughts sometimes lag and suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17062/will-the-nra-say-he-could-have-used-a-knife/#comment-1157498</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL,
That&#039;s good enough to share in the office tomorrow..
Have a great weekend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL,<br />
That&#8217;s good enough to share in the office tomorrow..<br />
Have a great weekend!</p>
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		<title>By: andrew191</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew191</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the land of the blind, a one eyed man will be King. In an unarmed land, the one armed man writes the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the land of the blind, a one eyed man will be King. In an unarmed land, the one armed man writes the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand corrected, Ces.  And no, I don&#039;t think you would call yourself a psycho :0).

This has been a spirited discussion.  Which is a good thing in my mind because it&#039;s an important issue for many of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected, Ces.  And no, I don&#8217;t think you would call yourself a psycho :0).</p>
<p>This has been a spirited discussion.  Which is a good thing in my mind because it&#8217;s an important issue for many of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Docelder,
I have come to really respect OK for their respect of Heritage and traditions and their heroic defense of the constitution.
 Okie&#039;s understand that Liberty and Tyranny is the major struggle and because of their rugged individualism and respect for the flag we have a chance to take out country back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Docelder,<br />
I have come to really respect OK for their respect of Heritage and traditions and their heroic defense of the constitution.<br />
 Okie&#8217;s understand that Liberty and Tyranny is the major struggle and because of their rugged individualism and respect for the flag we have a chance to take out country back.</p>
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		<title>By: JustMe~~</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustMe~~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I firmly believe a gun is only as dangerous as the person holding it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I firmly believe a gun is only as dangerous as the person holding it&#8230;</p>
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