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Putting Islamic Terrorism In Perspective

Marc Sageman tried valiantly this week to get folks thinking rationally about terrorism, but the fearmongers and muslim haters just cannot help themselves. They must believe that every Muslim is hellbent on killing Christians and conquering the west. Marc, for those who don’t know him, was a NOC at the CIA and worked in Afghanistan when the Soviets were running amuck. Unlike the vast majority of so-called terrorist experts, Marc has actually faced death threats and has interviewed dozens of real terrorists.

Marc has written a new book. Leaderless Jihad. The Washington Post’s David Ignatius commented on the book earlier this week, writing:

The heart of Sageman’s message is that we have been scaring ourselves into exaggerating the terrorism threat — and then by our unwise actions in Iraq making the problem worse. He attacks head-on the central thesis of the Bush administration, echoed increasingly by Republican presidential candidate John McCain, that, as McCain’s Web site puts it, the United States is facing “a dangerous, relentless enemy in the War against Islamic Extremists” spawned by al-Qaeda.

The numbers say otherwise, Sageman insists. The first wave of al-Qaeda leaders, who joined Osama bin Laden in the 1980s, is down to a few dozen people on the run in the tribal areas of northwest Pakistan. The second wave of terrorists, who trained in al-Qaeda’s camps in Afghanistan during the 1990s, has also been devastated, with about 100 hiding out on the Pakistani frontier. These people are genuinely dangerous, says Sageman, and they must be captured or killed. But they do not pose an existential threat to America, much less a “clash of civilizations.”

It’s the third wave of terrorism that is growing, but what is it? By Sageman’s account, it’s a leaderless hodgepodge of thousands of what he calls “terrorist wannabes.” Unlike the first two waves, whose members were well educated and intensely religious, the new jihadists are a weird species of the Internet culture. Outraged by video images of Americans killing Muslims in Iraq, they gather in password-protected chat rooms and dare each other to take action. Like young people across time and religious boundaries, they are bored and looking for thrills.

This is not just Marc’s opinion. He actually has research and facts to buttress his position. But leave it to the neocons and rightwing crazies to twist his words and conclusions. Max Boot, for example, reacted to Sageman by blaming me:

It was one of the least prescient articles ever written. The headline was “The Declining Terrorist Threat” and it appeared in the New York Times on July 10, 2001. Its author, Larry Johnson, a former State Department counterterrorism specialist, set out to confront what he regarded as fearmongering and mythmaking:

Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment, Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.

“None of these beliefs are based in fact,” he assured readers, going on to marshal a host of statistics on the decline in terrorism.

In hindsight, of course, it was obvious there were a few problems with his analysis. Just because some incidents of terrorism were in decline did not mean that there could not be an increase in the future. The trend in the number of terrorist attacks was irrelevant in any case if just one of those attacks could cause casualties on a hitherto unprecedented scale.

Yep. I am to blame. I will repeat for the umpteenth time. The July op-ed did not suggest nor imply we should ignore Bin Laden and his band. In fact, Milt Bearden and I wrote an op-ed in the New York Times in November of 2000 (seems like ages ago) that observed:

The Clinton Administration has shot its bolt on the terrorist problem with small effect, and no last minute show of force will change the record. A new administration can start afresh with a more sharply defined set of terrorism goals – Mughniyeh and bin Laden and their protectors for starters – and bring the full, coordinated force of American diplomatic, military, and intelligence capabilities to bear on the problem.

Unfortunately, almost seven years since the attacks of 9-11 and President Bush and the Congress still have not gotten behind a fully coordinated, targeted policy to dismantle the last remnants of the Bin Laden terrorist network. We are spending enormous sums of money and keeping legions of contractors employed. CIA continues to work independently in many cases of military special operations forces. And DEA, who scored a major arrest today of arms merchant to terrorists, Victor Bout, is rarely consulted on terrorism issues.

And misinformed pundits like Boot apparently want to keep it that way. I realize it is a nifty story line to blame me for 9-11 and the failures to take out Bin Laden before the attacks on the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, but it is not true. Rather than have an honest, informed discussion about the actual acts of violence, the demonstrated capabilities, the sources of funding, and the training regimens the neocons want to whip up the public fear and just throw money at a problem. Let’s hope that folks read Sageman’s latest work and realize he is helping chart a course correction for our nation’s counter terrorism policy based in part on smart thinking and a targeted use of public resources.

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    Unrelated to this post but:
    Petition Alert: Howard Dean Should Resign
    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/65/petition-for-howard-dean-to-resign-

    Also, I’m sure you will do this in the next 24 hours but we need to focus more attention on the MI and FL delegates. Please emphasize that Obama chose to take his name off the ballot in my state! FL and MI should count and we should not have to spend $20 million for another primary. This is ridiculous.

    • Simon

      Rather than have an honest, informed discussion about the actual acts of violence, the demonstrated capabilities, the sources of funding, and the training regimens the neocons want to whip up the public fear and just throw money at a problem.

      That’s it, that should be the genesis of Clinton’s approach to the middle east, right there.

      Bringing rational thought and control to the terrorism problem, a solution, a law enforcement solution, would counter the greater neocon agenda, and they’re not interested.

      Bill Kristol said a couple of weeks ago if Hillary wanted to win versus Obama, she should use the politics of fear, as fear punctures hope.

      I thought his comment very telling in terms of the republican motivation for the war on terror, ie cheney’s need to use force, and fear, torture, the outing of Plame, the Col’s death, in Iraq, the renditions, Gitmo, FISA, it’s like a BAD Hollywood script, when you put it all together.

      Worst part is, they actually start to believe their propaganda, and then no solution is in order, and America has no genuine leadership in regard to a very real problem, paranoid men do not make good leaders, or decisions.

      The neocons are just as light as Obama, Bush being the other side of the Obama coin.

    • Fred C. Dobbs

      If you think the Republican-dominated Florida legislature is ABOUT to fund an election just for Democrats, please forward a sample of whatever you’re smoking.

      Charmin’ Charlie can say what he wants, but he doesn’t work in the building where the real power is centered.

      • apishapa

        I wonder why the Democratic Party can’t run a fund raiser to help pay for new primaries. I mean Obama and Clinton are raising millions of dollars every day. If they are that concerned that Florida and Michigan voters not be disenfranchised, the Party could surely raise 10 million for that purpose.

        This is not the fault of the voters in those states and they are being unfiarly punished. I think the primaries were fair and fine and I think the delegates should be seated since South Carolina also broke the rules and suffered no consequences.

        But, the notion that they can’t find the money to do this for the sake of saving the Party is nonsense. Howard Dean caused this mess, and he should be on the airwaves begging for money to fix it. Being greedy and saying he’s saving all the DNC money for the national campaign is not sending a good message to Party members.

        • apishapa

          I should add that I think it is Obama supporters (mostly Republicans) who are primarily responsible for threatening to tear the party apart Obama “the annointed” is not ordained.

        • Fred C. Dobbs

          Traditional northern and midwestern Democrats who have moved to Florida (those I call Legacy Democrats as opposed to Dixiecrats) are not usually wealthy people; many scoot by on SS and GM/GE and Post Office pensions and live in itty-bitty condos and trailers. Coughing up a sawbuck might mean eating Ramen noodles and/or tuna casserole two extra nights next week, or not hitting the Early Bird Special line at Wolfie’s.

  • http://www.food4humanity.org HoosierHoops

    Unfortunately, almost seven years since the attacks of 9-11 and President Bush and the Congress still have not gotten behind a fully coordinated, targeted policy to dismantle the last remnants of the Bin Laden terrorist network..

    Larry: exactly my major complaint for the last 7 years. Thanks so much for your work and insight.
    This is so simple..never take your eyes off the target.. Because we have, This is the mess we are in.

    • IndyRobin

      Hey Hoosier Hoops .. Its IndyRobin

      I’m in Indianapolis. Where are you?

      IU, Bulter, Puurrdue, ND damn, we are HOT this yr :)

      • http://www.food4humanity.org HoosierHoops

        hey Indy!
        I live in the country, outside of Plainfield where the vast expanse of cornfields greet me daily. It’s good to see a fellow hoosier here.
        My Son comes home from Iraq april 28th. He is a member of the 3/5th marines kilo company.
        He is my brave hero.
        Good talking to you robin..
        BTW..I played college ball in California..the whole IU, Purdue, ND thing is Ok, but I’m all about Stanford-Cal. My daughter is an undergrad at UC Davis.
        Still love me? :)

        • Taters

          Hiya Hoosier, great to hear from you.
          That’s great about Jordan.
          Pac 10? Shame on you!! ;)

        • IndyRobin

          UC Davis … well since I lived in Sacramento
          for 18 yrs and spent many a day on the campus of Davis ( been there? … unbelievable cool town)I guess I can throw in a couple of luv pats.
          But trade Indiana B-Ball for Calli … don’t even GO there brother:) Them ther’s fightin
          words.
          You must be so proud of your boy. He is now in my heart prayer.

          Till then

  • Patrick Henry

    HOOPS..

    Good to see you back posting.

    .We didn’t take our eyes off the TARGET..The Bush administration did..They had a NEW TARGET…Saddam..Iraq OIL..and who ever else Dick Cheney wanted to shoot..RUN POOCH RUN..!!

    ENTER..Larry Johnson..NO QUARTER..but LOTS OF SENSE.

    Larry…Good reading as usual..Man..

    “DAS BOOT” is Sunk..Losing side and all that You know..Would that make him a Blue Max..??

    Thanks for sharing this Information on MARC SAGEMAN..and his Opinions and comments..

    I agree with HOOPS…Thanks Larry & Marc for your Service..and laying it on the Line..

    You Both Walk the Walk..

  • Cee

    Larry,

    There are people who don’t want us to think rationally or be unafraid.

    I’m going to point to the usual suspects again.
    Dammit. Pass that FISA bill before you all die!!

    A law enforcement official said police are investigating letters sent to Capitol Hill offices showing pictures of the recruiting station. According to the official, who was briefed on the investigation, the letters included words to the effect of, “We did it.” The official did not know which offices received the letters.
    The Associated Press obtained a copy of an e-mail from the office of Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., to other lawmakers Thursday that reads:

    “A few offices on the House side have received a letter today addressed to ‘Members of Congress’ with a picture of a man standing in front of the Times Square recruiting station that was bombed in New York today with the statement ‘We did it.’ He is standing in front of it with his arms spread out and he’s attached his political manifesto.”

    The e-mail advised recipients to leave the letters alone and call police.

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080307/D8V88QJO0.html

  • Taters

    Larry,
    Well done. Boot is a bedwetter, consider it an honor, my friend.
    No sense of perspective from that creep or that crowd.

    If Boot & co. were capable of a shred of honesty – they would simply say they hate all Muslims. The Boot licker took AQ as seriously as this WH did.

    You’re a professional Larry.

    TESTIMONY OF LARRY C. JOHNSON BEFORE THE HOUSE AVIATION SUBCOMMITTE OF THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION & INFRASTRUCTURE

    21 SEPTEMBER 2001

    I thank the Chairman and members for the opportunity to appear today before this committee to discuss steps that should be taken to ensure our nation’s aviation security system can deter current and future threats. We are here today because of the horrific chain of events that started with the hijacking of four commercial airliners and ended with three suicide attacks and the crash of one plane as its heroic passengers and crew battled to regain control of the plane.

    As we look at the hijackings on September 11th many leaped to the initial conclusion that the system broke down. Some assumed that hijackings occur because someone failed to do something, with immediate attention focused on the security companies that manned the security screening checkpoints at Logan and Dulles airports. Yet subsequent reports indicate that the screeners did their job properly and only permitted items to go on the aircraft that were sanctioned by existing security standards. If anything September 11th was a failure of the regulatory system.

    The events last Tuesday have more to do with knowledgeable terrorists taking advantage of gaps in the security system rather than a systemic breakdown. The four hijackings on September 11 are consistent with a pattern observed worldwide since 1987—people who claim to have a knife or an explosive have hijacked most planes. This shift coincided with the introduction of walk through metal detectors in airports around the world. Scrutiny at a security-screening checkpoint cannot prevent such events. All a person has to do is announce that they are hijacking a plane and, with something as innocuous as a fountain pen or a cylindrical tube, threaten the flight attendants, the pilots, and the passengers.

    cont’d
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/congress/2001_h/010921-johnson.htm

  • TeakWoodKite

    Larry 2 more books for the stack; thanks Larry
    Understanding Terror Networks…
    Between SusanUnPc grinding my laptop to dust and your reading recommendations, I am getting a new Laptop and taking a speed reading course.

    Max Boot has not read the book might do well to form his own opinions.

    sp? Victor Boot?

    Arrest:

    police acted on an arrest warrant issued by the US government, which accuses Mr Bout of supplying weapons to Colombia’s FARC rebels.

    Sources in Colombia and Spain claim that his arrest was made possible thanks to the information available from computers seized during the military operation that ended with the death of Raul Reyes

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout

    My question on who supplied arms to the FARC is answered. The timing is interesting on him getting rolled up.
    I second Hoosier Hoops points as you had mentioned recently, no one is talking to each other…So much for the “Wall”.

    • CK

      In the spirit of adding to your reading overload,
      http://www.douglasfarah.com/
      has been following the Bout issue for years.
      A bit of a bedwetter but this is his turf.

      • CK

        Lord of War, the Nic Cage movie from a few years ago is a mildly fictionalized version of Victor Bout.
        Bout has been a USA/CIA asset for years. His firms have flown supply flights for the US military in Iraq and elsewhere. He is one of those useful people who can be discarded and denied. Do not expect him to testify at any trials; dead folks don’t testify.
        Now the supply of arms question is always interesting, some government factory or arsenal made those weapons, some government agency contracted Bout to transport them. Bout is not an arms manufacturer. USA, Russia, GB, Israel, China, Ukraine, Spain, etc. make the arms, validate the end-user certificates, control the airfields where the arms are loaded.
        The who supplied arms to FARC question, Columbia of course. Corrupt armory seargents, company commanders, bribeable folks with access to the keys, Why go to the trouble and danger of using a Bout when you can much more easily slip someone money and have them turn Nelson’s eye while you strip an armory. Farc has been well supplied for 40 years thanks to the inherent corruptability of the Columbian government. Way longer than Bout has been ferrying arms for various governments and way longer than Chavez has been in power.
        It works in the USA, it worked in the USSR and it probably works in China. Thank heaven for the corruptible; without them there would be no fertile ground for spy recuritment or insurgency arms procurment. If you doubt this, you can always google Iran-Contra.

        • Cee

          Do not expect him to testify at any trials; dead folks don’t testify.

          CK,

          I wondered how long he would make it.

          As to the work that the DEA does and isn’t given credit for:

          http://cryptome.org/dea-il-spy.htm

          • CK

            The Israeli art students. Always good for increasing one’s faith in the security services of the USA.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Gee Thanks LOL :) my laptop is dust in the wind…

      • Cee

        CK,

        I’ll check it out. Blood from Stones was very good.
        Too bad the 9-11 omission wasn’t interested.

        • CK

          I have long suspected that OBL was the second most surprised person on 9/11. The first most being the architect who designed the towers.
          Those towers were not supposed to come down, the public had been told for decades how marvelously they had been engineered, how flame proof they were, how they could wiggle in the high winds and not be bothered. Then poof and all the disinforatsia is exposed. And then the effect of all the first two tower’s falling crap exposed the overall weakness and tower7, with its fine trysting place for Rudy, bit the dust. Couldn’t handle the added weight and the disintigration of its curtain walls by falling debris.

          @Cee Blood from Stones was decent, there was even a L&O episode loosely based on the whole blood diamonds thing. An America that could believe the crap that Colin Powell spewed to get the USA into a war is an America that can believe the crap the 9/11 comission spewed to cover up the almost everything in existence.
          I think I lost my will to believe, the day after 9/11 when the news was all full of reports about some NYC cop finding Mohammed Atta’s passport on the ground “near” where the towers fell. Must have blown right out of his pocket, flown untouched through the fires, gently fallen like a leaf on an autumn breeze to the ground. One passport survives the crash and it’s Atta’s? Why didn’t they find any of his DNA in the remains? No unaccounted for DNA and no Atta DNA = interesting math or slipshod biology.
          Oh well I do have a reason why there are so many “truthers” around, each of whom know his specific God’s revealed truth about 9/11
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

          • Cee

            L&O episode loosely based on the whole blood diamonds thing. An America that could believe the crap that Colin Powell spewed to get the USA into a war is an America that can believe the crap the 9/11 comission spewed to cover up the almost everything in existence.

            CK,

            People have been telling me to watch L&O.
            Oh,Powell? The look on his face should have given everyone a clue. That MOFO knew he was lying and couldn’t hide it.

            The fireproof Atta passport and the last martyr will and testament that was found at the airport reminds me of the laptop found in Ecuador. Puleeze.

            I said the other day that I’m waiting for more false flag attacks and fear tactics. They’ve already started.

            • Cee

              Something that I read earlier

              7 Insane Conspiracies That Actually Happened
              By Ned Resnikoff, Peter Hildebrand

              The Plan:
              In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we’re talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one.

              http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html

              • CK

                @Cee:
                I am not suggesting that you watch L&O.
                It is not Perry Mason. It is marginally better this season than last for two reasons: lugubrious Fred Thompson is no longer in the cast. The amount of time given over to commercials for pills and beauty products has increased. The amount of time spent praising the allmighty government has not decreased. Body counts are up.
                There are many false flag ops running.

  • Kathleen

    Thanks for the heads up Larry.

    I find it discouraging that more people are not interested in this topic. If we are not interested in the root causes of why people feel so desperate as to blow themselves up along with others for something they believe in, not much will change in the middle east.

    When we throw our weight around in the middle east for our National Interest=oil and for Israel and the U.S.’s control (owning the air, resources etc) over that part of the world how in the hell can anything improve?

    I continue to find it disturbing how NPR one of the only MSM outlets who actually report in detail what is taking place in the Gaza spin what is taking place in oh so subtle (not subtle to others) ways about what is taking place in the Gaza and Israel.

    This morning Linda Gradstein (who has stirred up many complaints about her reporting from the middle east in the past) reported about the 8 young men who were killed in the seminary in Israel. Linda brought up that these students were young. She then pointed out that half of the Palestinian people killed in the recent Israeli incursion into the Gaza were civilians but then failed to point out that many of these civilians were children.

    Listen for yourselves

    Linda Gradstein’s reporting
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87974984

    Somehow Israeli rockets launched by Israel that kill innocent Palestinian civilians, many of them children are written off as not “deliberate” killings “unintentional”. Somehow NPR’s Linda Gradstein fails to mention just how many Palestinian children have been killed in the last week.

    The killings of the 8 young men at the seminary by ??? are described as intentional and deliberate.

    Here is one of Linda’s reports about the Gaza which she does mention the children killed by the Israeli’s
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87938066

    • Cee

      reported about the 8 young men who were killed in the seminary in Israel.

      Kathleen,

      Timing is everything.Someone needs to ask Muhammad Dahlan what he knows about this shooting.

  • Kathleen

    Read this description of the 8 seminary students who were killed by the young Palestinian man. This story is from the AP

    It reports that many Israeli’s came out on the street screaming “death to Arabs”.

    “Afterward, the Jewish seminarians gathered outside the library and screamed for revenge, shouting, “Death to Arabs,” while in Hamas-controlled Gaza thousands of Palestinians celebrated in the streets.”

    Yet on NPR we only hear reports about the Palestinians coming out on the streets celebrating.

    Sick Sick sick

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87828031

  • Kathleen

    Npr’s coverage of what took place in the Gaza last week on Morning Edition is telling,

    On Saturday when 6o Palestinians were killed let’s see what NPR reported about that and other events in the Gaza

    During Scott’s Saturday program (march 1) there is not a separate report on what took place in the Gaza
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87823952

    The week in review by Scott Simon Sat March 1
    Not one mention of what had taken place in the Gaza
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87823952

    Very telling when the one of the only MSM outlets that will even report about what is going on in that crisis did not even touch it in their whole Saturday coverage. Wonder why Scott failed to mention in the weeks review what had been taking place in the Gaza?

    Here is one article in the Washington Post. The slide show is so troubling
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/03/01/ST2008030102095.html

    On Saturday evening All Things considered reports on the Gaza
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87829738

    On Sunday March 2 on Sunday’s weekend edition here is the report
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87837153
    No Report on what had taken place in the Gaza on Sunday’s All Things Considered
    http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2&prgDate=03-02-2008&view=storyview

  • Kathleen

    NPR is one of the only MSM outlets that reports about what is taking place with the I/P conflict. Many have pressured some media watch groups in regard to the illusion of fair and balanced coverage by NPR in regard to this issue.

    Hopefully FAIR and other media watch groups will do an overview of the coverage of what has taken place in the Gaza and Israel over the last weeks

    THE ILLUSION OF BALANCE
    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1086

    Fair on the use of the term “terrorist”
    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2668

  • Kathleen

    Have we seen any coverage of the Palestinian funerals? Have definitely seen coverage of the young Israeli seminary student funerals.

    This is such a tragedy. And the U.S. holds the key. Pressure Israel to get back to the Internationally recognized borders, pressure Israel to stop building and expanding the settlements, share the water rights.

    Then if Hamas and other Palestinians do not accept Israel abiding by the many UN resolutions that they are in violation of, then the Palestinians can not be satisfied.

  • Kathleen

    Thanks for helping people understand that it is not a good idea to throw every group into the same category. That we all need to try hard to understand the roots of real “terrorism” while not accepting it.

    On “terror”
    April 8, 2002
    http://www.fair.org/press-releases/terrorism.html

    Terrorism as Pretext
    by Sheldon Rampton
    http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/2001Q4/terror.html

    Viktor Bout mentioned in Larry’s article was arrested
    http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/06/viktor-bout-arrested/

  • http://blowingintheether.blogspot.com LC

    Thank you.

    I have long thought that the “clash of civilizations” argument by Andrew Sullivan and his fellow neo-cons is designed solely to turn the U.S. into the equivalent of a police state (yes, I know that makes me sound like a crazy, but it’s hard not to come to that conclusion when one adds up what Bush, Cheney, Rove and the Republican Party have done to the courts, the Congress and the Constitution).

    There are about 2 billion Muslims in the world. The number who are involved in terrorist acts is small, vanishingly small in comparison. I read somewhere that in England an argument has been made that terrorists are criminals not soldiers, and that the “war” metaphor, among other ills, gives them too much credit. I agree.

    Finally, and I know this will get me into even hotter water, I think we overreacted to 9/11. It was terrifying, certainly, but not mainly because of the number killed (after all, about 45K of us die every year in car accidents) but because of the method: passenger jets flown by men ready to die into two iconic structures. Would we have felt quite the same if, for example, a large cruise ship had been blown up with a conventional bomb? Think about the reaction to the Pan Am flight that was blown up.

    The overreaction led to a series of hypothetical worst-case scenarios: nuclear bombs, dirty bombs, smallpox, etc. Yet the only time terrorists have used gas was the sarin (sp?) attack in Japan. The attacks since 9/11 have all used conventional weapons. If it is really so easy for terrorists to get hold of all these much more exotic and lethal weapons, why are bombs (most often on the bodies of men ready to die) still the most common weapon?

    I am not arguing that there are no real threats out there. What I am arguing is that we need to apply judgment, caution, and a rational perspective to the problems.