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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1731/putting-islamic-terrorism-in-perspective/#comment-154797</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cee:
I am not suggesting that you watch L&amp;O.
It is not Perry Mason.  It is marginally better this season than last for two reasons: lugubrious Fred Thompson is no longer in the cast.  The amount of time given over to commercials for pills and beauty products has increased. The amount of time spent praising the allmighty government has not decreased.  Body counts are up.
There are many false flag ops running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cee:<br />
I am not suggesting that you watch L&amp;O.<br />
It is not Perry Mason.  It is marginally better this season than last for two reasons: lugubrious Fred Thompson is no longer in the cast.  The amount of time given over to commercials for pills and beauty products has increased. The amount of time spent praising the allmighty government has not decreased.  Body counts are up.<br />
There are many false flag ops running.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1731/putting-islamic-terrorism-in-perspective/#comment-154029</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, and I know this will get me into even hotter water, I think we overreacted to 9/11.

LC,

As planned.

PNAC and the NEOCONs: wanted a new Pearl Harbor

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6638713703231012207</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, and I know this will get me into even hotter water, I think we overreacted to 9/11.</p>
<p>LC,</p>
<p>As planned.</p>
<p>PNAC and the NEOCONs: wanted a new Pearl Harbor</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6638713703231012207" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6638713703231012207</a></p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1731/putting-islamic-terrorism-in-perspective/#comment-153705</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.

I have long thought that the &quot;clash of civilizations&quot; argument by Andrew Sullivan and his fellow neo-cons is designed solely to turn the U.S. into the equivalent of a police state (yes, I know that makes me sound like a crazy, but it&#039;s hard not to come to that conclusion when one adds up what Bush, Cheney, Rove and the Republican Party have done to the courts, the Congress and the Constitution).

There are about 2 billion Muslims in the world.  The number who are involved in terrorist acts is small, vanishingly small in comparison.  I read somewhere that in England an argument has been made that terrorists are criminals not soldiers, and that the &quot;war&quot; metaphor, among other ills, gives them too much credit.  I agree.

Finally, and I know this will get me into even hotter water, I think we overreacted to 9/11. It was terrifying, certainly, but  not mainly because of the number killed (after all, about 45K of us die every year in car accidents) but because of the method: passenger jets flown by men ready to die into two iconic structures.  Would we have felt quite the same if, for example, a large cruise ship had been blown up with a conventional bomb? Think about the reaction to the Pan Am flight that was blown up.

The overreaction led to a series of hypothetical worst-case scenarios: nuclear bombs, dirty bombs, smallpox, etc.  Yet the only time terrorists have used gas was the sarin (sp?) attack in Japan.  The attacks since 9/11 have all used conventional weapons. If it is really so easy for terrorists to get hold of all these much more exotic and lethal weapons, why are bombs (most often on the bodies of men ready to die) still the most common weapon?

I am not arguing that there are no real threats out there.  What I am arguing is that we need to apply judgment, caution, and a rational perspective to the problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>I have long thought that the &#8220;clash of civilizations&#8221; argument by Andrew Sullivan and his fellow neo-cons is designed solely to turn the U.S. into the equivalent of a police state (yes, I know that makes me sound like a crazy, but it&#8217;s hard not to come to that conclusion when one adds up what Bush, Cheney, Rove and the Republican Party have done to the courts, the Congress and the Constitution).</p>
<p>There are about 2 billion Muslims in the world.  The number who are involved in terrorist acts is small, vanishingly small in comparison.  I read somewhere that in England an argument has been made that terrorists are criminals not soldiers, and that the &#8220;war&#8221; metaphor, among other ills, gives them too much credit.  I agree.</p>
<p>Finally, and I know this will get me into even hotter water, I think we overreacted to 9/11. It was terrifying, certainly, but  not mainly because of the number killed (after all, about 45K of us die every year in car accidents) but because of the method: passenger jets flown by men ready to die into two iconic structures.  Would we have felt quite the same if, for example, a large cruise ship had been blown up with a conventional bomb? Think about the reaction to the Pan Am flight that was blown up.</p>
<p>The overreaction led to a series of hypothetical worst-case scenarios: nuclear bombs, dirty bombs, smallpox, etc.  Yet the only time terrorists have used gas was the sarin (sp?) attack in Japan.  The attacks since 9/11 have all used conventional weapons. If it is really so easy for terrorists to get hold of all these much more exotic and lethal weapons, why are bombs (most often on the bodies of men ready to die) still the most common weapon?</p>
<p>I am not arguing that there are no real threats out there.  What I am arguing is that we need to apply judgment, caution, and a rational perspective to the problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1731/putting-islamic-terrorism-in-perspective/#comment-153553</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that I read earlier

7 Insane Conspiracies That Actually Happened
By Ned Resnikoff, Peter Hildebrand 


The Plan: 
In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we&#039;re talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one. 

http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that I read earlier</p>
<p>7 Insane Conspiracies That Actually Happened<br />
By Ned Resnikoff, Peter Hildebrand </p>
<p>The Plan:<br />
In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we&#8217;re talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1731/putting-islamic-terrorism-in-perspective/#comment-153552</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L&amp;O episode loosely based on the whole blood diamonds thing. An America that could believe the crap that Colin Powell spewed to get the USA into a war is an America that can believe the crap the 9/11 comission spewed to cover up the almost everything in existence.


CK,

People have been telling me to watch L&amp;O. 
Oh,Powell? The look on his face should have given everyone a clue. That MOFO knew he was lying and couldn&#039;t hide it.

The fireproof Atta passport and the last martyr will and testament that was found at the airport reminds me of the laptop found in Ecuador. Puleeze.

I said the other day that I&#039;m waiting for more false flag attacks and fear tactics. They&#039;ve already started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L&amp;O episode loosely based on the whole blood diamonds thing. An America that could believe the crap that Colin Powell spewed to get the USA into a war is an America that can believe the crap the 9/11 comission spewed to cover up the almost everything in existence.</p>
<p>CK,</p>
<p>People have been telling me to watch L&amp;O.<br />
Oh,Powell? The look on his face should have given everyone a clue. That MOFO knew he was lying and couldn&#8217;t hide it.</p>
<p>The fireproof Atta passport and the last martyr will and testament that was found at the airport reminds me of the laptop found in Ecuador. Puleeze.</p>
<p>I said the other day that I&#8217;m waiting for more false flag attacks and fear tactics. They&#8217;ve already started.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred C. Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traditional northern and midwestern Democrats who have moved to Florida (those I call Legacy Democrats as opposed to Dixiecrats) are not usually wealthy people; many scoot by on SS and GM/GE and Post Office pensions and live in itty-bitty condos and trailers. Coughing up a sawbuck might mean eating Ramen noodles and/or tuna casserole two extra nights next week, or not hitting the Early Bird Special line at Wolfie&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traditional northern and midwestern Democrats who have moved to Florida (those I call Legacy Democrats as opposed to Dixiecrats) are not usually wealthy people; many scoot by on SS and GM/GE and Post Office pensions and live in itty-bitty condos and trailers. Coughing up a sawbuck might mean eating Ramen noodles and/or tuna casserole two extra nights next week, or not hitting the Early Bird Special line at Wolfie&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Israeli art students.  Always good for increasing one&#039;s faith in the security services of the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israeli art students.  Always good for increasing one&#8217;s faith in the security services of the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1731/putting-islamic-terrorism-in-perspective/#comment-153466</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have long suspected that OBL was the second most surprised person on 9/11.  The first most being the architect who designed the towers.
Those towers were not supposed to come down, the public had been told for decades how marvelously they had been engineered, how flame proof they were, how they could wiggle in the high winds and not be bothered.  Then poof and all the disinforatsia is exposed.  And then the effect of all the first two tower&#039;s falling crap exposed the overall weakness and tower7, with its fine trysting place for Rudy, bit the dust.  Couldn&#039;t handle the added weight and the disintigration of its curtain walls by falling debris.  

@Cee  Blood from Stones was decent, there was even a L&amp;O episode loosely based on the whole blood diamonds thing.  An America that could believe the crap that Colin Powell spewed to get the USA into a war is an America that can believe the crap the 9/11 comission spewed to cover up the almost everything in existence.
I think I lost my will to believe, the day after 9/11 when the news was all full of reports about some NYC cop finding Mohammed Atta&#039;s passport on the ground &quot;near&quot; where the towers fell.  Must have blown right out of his pocket, flown untouched through the fires, gently fallen like a leaf on an autumn breeze to the ground.  One passport survives the crash and it&#039;s Atta&#039;s?  Why didn&#039;t they find any of his DNA in the remains?  No unaccounted for DNA and no Atta DNA = interesting math or slipshod biology. 
Oh well I do have a reason why there are so many &quot;truthers&quot; around, each of whom know his specific God&#039;s revealed truth about 9/11
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have long suspected that OBL was the second most surprised person on 9/11.  The first most being the architect who designed the towers.<br />
Those towers were not supposed to come down, the public had been told for decades how marvelously they had been engineered, how flame proof they were, how they could wiggle in the high winds and not be bothered.  Then poof and all the disinforatsia is exposed.  And then the effect of all the first two tower&#8217;s falling crap exposed the overall weakness and tower7, with its fine trysting place for Rudy, bit the dust.  Couldn&#8217;t handle the added weight and the disintigration of its curtain walls by falling debris.  </p>
<p>@Cee  Blood from Stones was decent, there was even a L&amp;O episode loosely based on the whole blood diamonds thing.  An America that could believe the crap that Colin Powell spewed to get the USA into a war is an America that can believe the crap the 9/11 comission spewed to cover up the almost everything in existence.<br />
I think I lost my will to believe, the day after 9/11 when the news was all full of reports about some NYC cop finding Mohammed Atta&#8217;s passport on the ground &#8220;near&#8221; where the towers fell.  Must have blown right out of his pocket, flown untouched through the fires, gently fallen like a leaf on an autumn breeze to the ground.  One passport survives the crash and it&#8217;s Atta&#8217;s?  Why didn&#8217;t they find any of his DNA in the remains?  No unaccounted for DNA and no Atta DNA = interesting math or slipshod biology.<br />
Oh well I do have a reason why there are so many &#8220;truthers&#8221; around, each of whom know his specific God&#8217;s revealed truth about 9/11<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reported about the 8 young men who were killed in the seminary in Israel. 

Kathleen,

Timing is everything.Someone needs to ask Muhammad Dahlan what he knows about this shooting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reported about the 8 young men who were killed in the seminary in Israel. </p>
<p>Kathleen,</p>
<p>Timing is everything.Someone needs to ask Muhammad Dahlan what he knows about this shooting.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1731/putting-islamic-terrorism-in-perspective/#comment-153450</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not expect him to testify at any trials; dead folks don’t testify.

CK,

I wondered how long he would make it.

As to the work that the DEA does and isn&#039;t given credit for:

http://cryptome.org/dea-il-spy.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not expect him to testify at any trials; dead folks don’t testify.</p>
<p>CK,</p>
<p>I wondered how long he would make it.</p>
<p>As to the work that the DEA does and isn&#8217;t given credit for:</p>
<p><a href="http://cryptome.org/dea-il-spy.htm" rel="nofollow">http://cryptome.org/dea-il-spy.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1731/putting-islamic-terrorism-in-perspective/#comment-153442</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CK,

I&#039;ll check it out. Blood from Stones was very good.
Too bad the 9-11 omission wasn&#039;t interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CK,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check it out. Blood from Stones was very good.<br />
Too bad the 9-11 omission wasn&#8217;t interested.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee Thanks LOL :) my laptop is dust in the wind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Thanks LOL <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  my laptop is dust in the wind&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: apishapa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1731/putting-islamic-terrorism-in-perspective/#comment-153429</link>
		<dc:creator>apishapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that I think it is Obama supporters (mostly Republicans) who are primarily responsible for threatening to tear the party apart Obama &quot;the annointed&quot; is not ordained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that I think it is Obama supporters (mostly Republicans) who are primarily responsible for threatening to tear the party apart Obama &#8220;the annointed&#8221; is not ordained.</p>
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		<title>By: apishapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>apishapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why the Democratic Party can&#039;t run a fund raiser to help pay for new primaries. I mean Obama and Clinton are raising millions of dollars every day. If they are that concerned that Florida and Michigan voters not be disenfranchised, the Party could surely raise 10 million for that purpose. 

This is not the fault of the voters in those states and they are being unfiarly punished. I think the primaries were fair and fine and I think the delegates should be seated since South Carolina also broke the rules and suffered no consequences. 

But, the notion that they can&#039;t find the money to do this for the sake of saving the Party is nonsense. Howard Dean caused this mess, and he should be on the airwaves begging for money to fix it. Being greedy and saying he&#039;s saving all the DNC money for the national campaign is not sending a good message to Party members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why the Democratic Party can&#8217;t run a fund raiser to help pay for new primaries. I mean Obama and Clinton are raising millions of dollars every day. If they are that concerned that Florida and Michigan voters not be disenfranchised, the Party could surely raise 10 million for that purpose. </p>
<p>This is not the fault of the voters in those states and they are being unfiarly punished. I think the primaries were fair and fine and I think the delegates should be seated since South Carolina also broke the rules and suffered no consequences. </p>
<p>But, the notion that they can&#8217;t find the money to do this for the sake of saving the Party is nonsense. Howard Dean caused this mess, and he should be on the airwaves begging for money to fix it. Being greedy and saying he&#8217;s saving all the DNC money for the national campaign is not sending a good message to Party members.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord of War, the Nic Cage movie from a few years ago is a mildly fictionalized version of Victor Bout.
Bout has been a USA/CIA asset for years.  His firms have flown supply flights for the US military in Iraq and elsewhere.  He is one of those useful people who can be discarded and denied.  Do not expect him to testify at any trials; dead folks don&#039;t testify.
Now the supply of arms question is always interesting, some government factory or arsenal made those weapons, some government agency contracted Bout to transport them.  Bout is not an arms manufacturer.  USA, Russia, GB, Israel, China, Ukraine, Spain, etc. make the arms, validate the end-user certificates, control the airfields where the arms are loaded.
The who supplied arms to FARC question, Columbia of course.  Corrupt armory seargents, company commanders, bribeable folks with access to the keys, Why go to the trouble and danger of using a Bout when you can much more easily slip someone money and have them turn Nelson&#039;s eye while you strip an armory.  Farc has been well supplied for 40 years thanks to the inherent corruptability of the Columbian government.  Way longer than Bout has been ferrying arms for various governments and way longer than Chavez has been in power.
It works in the USA, it worked in the USSR and it probably works in China.  Thank heaven for the corruptible; without them there would be no fertile ground for spy recuritment or insurgency arms procurment.  If you doubt this, you can always google Iran-Contra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord of War, the Nic Cage movie from a few years ago is a mildly fictionalized version of Victor Bout.<br />
Bout has been a USA/CIA asset for years.  His firms have flown supply flights for the US military in Iraq and elsewhere.  He is one of those useful people who can be discarded and denied.  Do not expect him to testify at any trials; dead folks don&#8217;t testify.<br />
Now the supply of arms question is always interesting, some government factory or arsenal made those weapons, some government agency contracted Bout to transport them.  Bout is not an arms manufacturer.  USA, Russia, GB, Israel, China, Ukraine, Spain, etc. make the arms, validate the end-user certificates, control the airfields where the arms are loaded.<br />
The who supplied arms to FARC question, Columbia of course.  Corrupt armory seargents, company commanders, bribeable folks with access to the keys, Why go to the trouble and danger of using a Bout when you can much more easily slip someone money and have them turn Nelson&#8217;s eye while you strip an armory.  Farc has been well supplied for 40 years thanks to the inherent corruptability of the Columbian government.  Way longer than Bout has been ferrying arms for various governments and way longer than Chavez has been in power.<br />
It works in the USA, it worked in the USSR and it probably works in China.  Thank heaven for the corruptible; without them there would be no fertile ground for spy recuritment or insurgency arms procurment.  If you doubt this, you can always google Iran-Contra.</p>
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