Comments on: A Question of Honor http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/ Fri, 25 May 2012 10:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Linda C. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158353 Linda C. Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:43:29 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158353 cynic The technology to manufacture safer products is also there. So I am not going to give China a pass. It is all a race to the bottom. I personally think that our government is "so lax" regarding such imports is because of our reliance on the Chinese government for money. It has more to do with "looking the other way" when it came down to the last administration and I am not so sure this one will be any different. cynic
The technology to manufacture safer products is also there. So I am not going to give China a pass. It is all a race to the bottom. I personally think that our government is “so lax” regarding such imports is because of our reliance on the Chinese government for money. It has more to do with “looking the other way” when it came down to the last administration and I am not so sure this one will be any different.

]]> By: Linda C. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158350 Linda C. Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:37:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158350 American oil companies didn't get the oil contracts in Iraq either. China did. So did we invade these countries for what? To spread democracy or the Chinese economy? American oil companies didn’t get the oil contracts in Iraq either. China did.

So did we invade these countries for what? To spread democracy or the Chinese economy?

]]> By: cynic http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158299 cynic Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:12:19 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158299 BTW, when was the last time anyone bought an extension cord or ceiling fixture bearing the Underwriter's Laboratory seal of approval? That little tag used to be on just about everything. BTW, when was the last time anyone bought an extension cord or ceiling fixture bearing the Underwriter’s Laboratory seal of approval? That little tag used to be on just about everything.

]]> By: cynic http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158294 cynic Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:07:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158294 I rather imagine potentially toxic wallboard might be produced in China for domestic consumption. Basically they've turned into a heavily industrialized state overnight, racing to catch up without the cautions and safeguards that emerge when things happen at a slower pace. Their rapid progress has given them urban air unfit to breathe and manufactured products unsafe to use. The desire of American retailers for cheap products with enormous high-volume profits has given the Chinese access to American consumers--who are finally waking up to the fact that <em>cheaper</em> comes with <em>hidden costs</em>. I'll happily pay double for American-made items that aren't so shoddily-made that they're like disposable dixie cups. Unfortunately such things are becoming increasingly difficult to find. Figure on replacing your bathroom faucet every five years, and wondering about the lead that might be leeching into your water every time use use it. I rather imagine potentially toxic wallboard might be produced in China for domestic consumption. Basically they’ve turned into a heavily industrialized state overnight, racing to catch up without the cautions and safeguards that emerge when things happen at a slower pace. Their rapid progress has given them urban air unfit to breathe and manufactured products unsafe to use. The desire of American retailers for cheap products with enormous high-volume profits has given the Chinese access to American consumers–who are finally waking up to the fact that cheaper comes with hidden costs.

I’ll happily pay double for American-made items that aren’t so shoddily-made that they’re like disposable dixie cups. Unfortunately such things are becoming increasingly difficult to find. Figure on replacing your bathroom faucet every five years, and wondering about the lead that might be leeching into your water every time use use it.

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158280 Ferd Berfle Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:46:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158280 <blockquote>Don’t blame the Chinese.</blockquote> While I agree regulatory oversight has been dismal under Shrub (who I didn't vote for twice) that is a completely irrelevant argument. By your selective reasoning, it is permissible to make a bad product as long as one doesn't get caught. Spoken like a true bot. You duds also foisted a President who doesn't work on us. Can we return him to you for a full refund?

Don’t blame the Chinese.

While I agree regulatory oversight has been dismal under Shrub (who I didn’t vote for twice) that is a completely irrelevant argument. By your selective reasoning, it is permissible to make a bad product as long as one doesn’t get caught.

Spoken like a true bot.

You duds also foisted a President who doesn’t work on us. Can we return him to you for a full refund?

]]> By: cynic http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158254 cynic Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:24:43 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158254 We seem to be overlooking a few important questions here: <strong>Why were defective building products allowed to enter the United States to begin with? What happened to the federal regulatory agencies that previously carefully monitored such things? Who changed <em>that</em>, and <em>when</em>? </strong> Don't blame the Chinese. We seem to be overlooking a few important questions here:

Why were defective building products allowed to enter the United States to begin with? What happened to the federal regulatory agencies that previously carefully monitored such things? Who changed that, and when?

Don’t blame the Chinese.

]]> By: Peggy Sue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158246 Peggy Sue Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:11:58 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158246 Good grief, French N. I hadn't read this before. Everytime you think it can't get worse, it does. Maybe we need a new definition of "honor." The old one seems to outlived its usefulness. If this goes down [toxic buildings for real] along with the commercial real estate market collapse on the horizen, 2009 will be unforgettable [and not in a good way]. We can certainly kiss any bear market rally good-bye [which I don't trust anyway]. Oy! Good grief, French N. I hadn’t read this before. Everytime you think it can’t get worse, it does.

Maybe we need a new definition of “honor.” The old one seems to outlived its usefulness. If this goes down [toxic buildings for real] along with the commercial real estate market collapse on the horizen, 2009 will be unforgettable [and not in a good way]. We can certainly kiss any bear market rally good-bye [which I don't trust anyway].

Oy!

]]> By: FrenchNail http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158197 FrenchNail Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:46:06 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158197 I propose a very good way to offset our debt to the Chineses. Hold them financialy responsible for the clean up of their dry walls. And for all of you who just read this with a "HuH???" on their faces, think Asbestos of the 21st century. About every major builder involved in the recent post-2000 construction boom has used dry wall sheets manufacured in China, directly or indirectly imported from there. It is now coming to light (in the past two months or so) that some of the components used by the Chinese were not to specs and that toxic replacement components were thrawn in the mix. People are getting sick. 100 of thousands of houses and condos will have to be vacated and gutted in the very near future. This is the next bomb ready to explode in the real estate market. I think that the Chineses should be called on their honor they like so much. I propose a very good way to offset our debt to the Chineses. Hold them financialy responsible for the clean up of their dry walls.

And for all of you who just read this with a “HuH???” on their faces, think Asbestos of the 21st century.

About every major builder involved in the recent post-2000 construction boom has used dry wall sheets manufacured in China, directly or indirectly imported from there. It is now coming to light (in the past two months or so) that some of the components used by the Chinese were not to specs and that toxic replacement components were thrawn in the mix.

People are getting sick. 100 of thousands of houses and condos will have to be vacated and gutted in the very near future. This is the next bomb ready to explode in the real estate market.

I think that the Chineses should be called on their honor they like so much.

]]> By: FLDemFem http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158173 FLDemFem Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:28:22 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158173 What is going to be interesting is what the world leaders coming together there end up thinking of Obummer. He won't have a Teleprompter and will have to speak about the issues on his own. Then they will realize that an empty suit with an ego inhabits the Oval Office. And there will go American prestige, such as it is, and any respect that might remain for the American people who elected this putz. What is going to be interesting is what the world leaders coming together there end up thinking of Obummer. He won’t have a Teleprompter and will have to speak about the issues on his own. Then they will realize that an empty suit with an ego inhabits the Oval Office. And there will go American prestige, such as it is, and any respect that might remain for the American people who elected this putz.

]]> By: jangles http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158116 jangles Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:27:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158116 I can not wati to see Obama in his first real world leader forum. Something tells me that the world leaders who show up may not give him the center of the stage in the usual fawning way of his Obot world. Wonder how that will work for him? Maybe he will "duck and delegate"---think he will put the SOS out there to take the 3:00 am call from the world about US debt and financial recklessness? Sounds to me like the world may be just a little po'd that the US let its financial house go nuts. I can not wati to see Obama in his first real world leader forum. Something tells me that the world leaders who show up may not give him the center of the stage in the usual fawning way of his Obot world. Wonder how that will work for him? Maybe he will “duck and delegate”—think he will put the SOS out there to take the 3:00 am call from the world about US debt and financial recklessness? Sounds to me like the world may be just a little po’d that the US let its financial house go nuts.

]]> By: Glennmcgahee http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158115 Glennmcgahee Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:23:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158115 It seems we have more than one way to pay back the Chinese other than with cash. We just sacrifice our young men and women in the military so that they can exploit the natural resources of Aghanistan. Obviously, we will setup our bases there to guard their workers. I put this particular link in because it also shows that American Companies wished to get at this copper but the Chinese will be getting it with our help. http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/news/283335.php It seems we have more than one way to pay back the Chinese other than with cash. We just sacrifice our young men and women in the military so that they can exploit the natural resources of Aghanistan. Obviously, we will setup our bases there to guard their workers. I put this particular link in because it also shows that American Companies wished to get at this copper but the Chinese will be getting it with our help.
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/news/283335.php

]]> By: Sassy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158072 Sassy Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:44:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158072 We have seen China's iron-fisted rule over their own populace. Now they can easily expand their influence. Our huge indebtedness to that country poses problems for us, both short and long term. They have the U.S. over a barrel, so to speak, and I would be far more comfortable if it was another country that was not hostile to our standards. We have seen China’s iron-fisted rule over their own populace.
Now they can easily expand their influence.
Our huge indebtedness to that country poses problems for us, both short and long term.
They have the U.S. over a barrel, so to speak, and I would be far more comfortable if it was another country that was not hostile to our standards.

]]> By: LD http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158063 LD Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:20:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158063 The G-20 meeting will be very interesting to see the undercurrents and crosscurrents that develop and are made public. The stakes in this "game" are definitely increasing. The G-20 meeting will be very interesting to see the undercurrents and crosscurrents that develop and are made public.

The stakes in this “game” are definitely increasing.

]]> By: Linda C. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/17353/a-question-of-honor/#comment-1158052 Linda C. Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:44:48 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=17353#comment-1158052 I agree Larry. China is going to exert her power now as a bigger world player. They have simply figured out how to create that power by exploiting the West's greed and uber materialism. They financed our war in Iraq and then got the oil. They are cozy with the Sudanese government. Since the aid workers have been kicked out, the people of Darfur will slowly starve to death and not much we will be able to do about it. We are being compelled to buy their unsafe products or at least their continued importation. I agree Larry. China is going to exert her power now as a bigger world player. They have simply figured out how to create that power by exploiting the West’s greed and uber materialism.

They financed our war in Iraq and then got the oil. They are cozy with the Sudanese government. Since the aid workers have been kicked out, the people of Darfur will slowly starve to death and not much we will be able to do about it. We are being compelled to buy their unsafe products or at least their continued importation.

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