The Vaunted African-American Vote [Superdelegate & "Mania" Updates]

Susan,

So people (Hillary) shouldn’t care about the votes of Sugar and Mimi anymore?

Kitchen sink indeed.

This is a trend.

It’s good to see more persons voting, that is a good thing. Though the districts they vote in are pretty solidly Democratic already, there is a series of crucial census based changes to voting districts ahead in the immediate future. Strategic emphasis therein lies.

Latino voters are the future.

The politics of both blacks and whites will have to meet with those interests. The walls are coming down in that respect.

Clearly Obama is inspiring so many new voters. Hillary should just quit right now.

Well, what’s happening here is not that the number of Black voters has gone down, because they increased dramatically in Texas this time.

What the Exit Poll is showing is the HUGE increase in the Hispanic vote in Texas in the Democratic primary (look at the Religious affiliation data… African Americans are by-and-large church-going Protestants, while Mexican-Americans are by-and-large church-going Roman Catholics).

Whatever happened to the politics of Hope? Whatever happened to Obama being about change? Today, his foreign policy advisor used expletives and pejoratives in an international interview? What kind of hope and change is that?

http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/03/monster-march-monday-money-bomb.html#links

“Kitchen sink indeed.”

Rather the elephant in the room.

Rather the elephant in the room.

Big ears, sitting on a tiny toilet?

Sorry.

Mr. Murder,

Are there enough Latino voters to pull Hillary over the line?

Don’t answer. There aren’t.

I listened to a talk show this morning about Bill Clinton being in Philly today. Although the black mayor supports Hillary, the rest of his tribe will be sitting on their hands if she is the nominee.
She’ll be appealing to the Mississipi of the north areas of PA. She’ll need them.

And this is what is so horrible, I wonder if the discord Obama is sowing has resulted in discouraging AA voters.

The Uniter over there, alienating those who choose not to take the loyalty oath.

Clinton would have brought AA voters in, has brought AA voters in, empowering the community, Obama deliberately trashed this dynamic, to gain votes.

Obama is not a democrat.

Interestingly, when I was reading about kos, yesterday, one of the charges made against him, and the other DK middle aged, white male bloggers, was that DK sought to exclude blacks and other minorities, consolidating power in the white male structure, a very neocon thing to do.

I dismissed it initially, but, you know, part of being a progressive is fighting for the rights of other, fighting to empower minorities.

DK doesn’t do this.

Why?

Kos really isn’t a progressive, he’s not even a democrat, really, he’s more a wannabe political consultant.

Maybe he should change the scope of his blog.

Today, his foreign policy advisor used expletives and pejoratives in an international interview? What kind of hope and change is that?

I dunno, does she smoke, too?

Maybe she needed a cigarette.

I listened to a talk show this morning a

Your first mistake, you buy that shit?

No wonder Obama’s campaign is such a joke.

How is that Rezko thing sitting on the bamster’s mind, not too cool, huh?

Terrorists, and former Saddam baathists, rarely are.

Or is that, “terrorism, the Chicago way?”

Wussie boys, throwing bombs at civilians, from afar.

Oh, yeah, it IS terrorism the Chicago way.

Just ask Rezko, and Alsammarae.

That, or you know, taking money earmarked for the public, and doing god knows WHAT with it, everything but providing heat for poor Chicagoans, in the middle of winter.

Has someone asked Samamtha Power her opinion about this one, too, speaking of monsters?

Yes yes Obama will make a fine fine president.

Keep up, you’re slipping behind.

Bitch when you don’t have originality, and critical thinking skills, isn’t it?

You should check with Cheney’s team, they’re not doing to well, either.

Heh.

That whole plagiarism thing, not to well thought out, but, then look who is doing the thinking…

Rezko and Alsammarae

Rezko and Alsammarae

Interpol has a warrant out for Alsammarae’s arrest, in connection with 650 million dollars missing from the CPA.

Rezko was in partnership with Alsammarae to build a nuclear power plant in Iraq, but defense cancelled the contract, eventually.

These men are directly connected to IL politics, and Obama.

Should we suspend belief and say it’s OK to elect a President connected with this, illegally profiting from American taxpayers monies, and god knows what else?

The more I think about it, the more I swear the republicans expected Obama to have the nomination sewn up by now, and were going to destroy any hope of a democratic presidency with Obama’s filthy past.

And not one democratic leader saw it, with the exception of the Clinton camp?

(And as an aside, and I’m thankful Larry and Susan tolerate this, the whole missing money thing somehow makes me think of the Col from Texas, who was murdered, the man Larry has written about, and no, Obama didn’t do it, but I hear there are people out there who can make it look he did).

(No offense to the Col, or his family).

I wonder if any of those corrupt Iraqi-Americans, like Alsammarae line up around that, too, connecting the dots, it’s like the mafia, isn’t it? And people speak of the russians…I wonder if they’re as stupid, too?)

The Colonel’s memory, I meant to say.

Committed suicide, sorry, it is suspected he might have been murdered.

Cee –

Senator Clinton’s whole campaign is about benefitting the underprivileged and working class.

Hillary Clinton does care. Her campaign is not simply her it’s about her unique set of experiences, policies, and skill set.

Mimi and Sugar get that. I deeply reget that more black voters seem to be taken in by Barack Obama’s bullshit.

Chicago’s corrupt Daley machine has been such a fabulous vehicle for change for many black people.

Community Organizer Barack Obama & his indicted buddy Tony Rezko managed to turn black people into freezing people in unheated buildings. And it only cost the taxpayers 43 million dollars to do so.

Now some of those folks are homeless and the Obama’s have a mansion.

That’s change I hope I never see in the White House.

After the Obama campaign sharing its thoughts towards the poor through Ms Power’s, maybe it is time for Sen Edwards to come forward!

Wrong Cee. There are and there might be even more yet to come. Everyone knows that and that’s why many of their requests for citizenship have been stalled forever. It’s so scandalous that there is a class action suit going on at present.

That video hit a solid 10 on the creep-o-meter. What in the hell was that? There was no policy, no substance, just wishfull thinking about a greener Earth and world peace! WTF? And the endless chanting and singing of his name is just downright scary.

I used to joke that his supporters were like a big cult but now I’m just going to say that is followers are a big cult!

That video hit a solid 10 on the creep-o-meter. What in the hell was that? There was no policy, no substance, just wishfull thinking about a greener Earth and world peace from a bunch of celebrties and “pretty” people! WTF? And the endless chanting and singing of his name is just downright scary.

I used to joke that his supporters were like a big cult but now I’m just going to say that his followers are a big cult!

I really think it is foolish for people to think that blacks will not vote for Hillary if she is the nominee in Nov. Yes, I understand that if Obama is the not the nominee the “young black vote” will probably stay at home. Just like the “young vote” in general. MSM is making future out to be a riot or something of that nature. I truly feel this is not true. Older black voters still feel strong for the democratic party and will not “abandon” Hillary. Obama is just starting the process of being “vetted” and it appears to be a challenge for him. We just have to wait and see how he can take the heat. We just got to see how bad he really wants the job because the new motto is “Yes, you can” fail if you are unwilling to fight for the job. Blacks, whites, Latinos, ect. will not do this for you. It is pure Poloticking. Hillary is not very worried about blacks supporting her in the fall because she has the support of Bill. And no matter how one puts it “Blacks are still very loyal to this man.” Yes, one can say Bill made some bad replies in SC but, come on Bill can truly walk on water in the eyes of Black America.

Sorry to be a bit out of topic; but it realtes to OH.

RCP reports that HC got 74 pledeged delegates
to Obama 65.

That makes no sense to me given the percentage difference. Dopes anyone have any insight on this?

There seems to be afew pledged delegate sstill to be assigned. But still ….

Obama has also picked 8 more superdelegates according to them since Tuesdat. he has 209 now (it was 201 I think).

Sorry to be a bit out of topic; but it relates to OH.

RCP reports that HC got 74 pledeged delegates
to Obama 65.

That makes no sense to me given the percentage difference. Dopes anyone have any insight on this?

There seems to be afew pledged delegate sstill to be assigned. But still ….

Obama has also picked 8 more superdelegates according to them since Tuesdat. he has 209 now (it was 201 I think).

Thanks Mike,
This is the most under-reported story of Obama. Just imagine if the MSM picks this up in November if Obama is the nominee. Just imagine the Youtube video of Obama’s dirty housing project (ghettos) and the Swiftboaters showing Obama doing bad things to black americans. Not good at all. Where the hell were the super delegates to prevent this fiasco.
We will all loose if Obama does not open up about Tony Rezko and the asbestos ghettos.
All we need is the truth and Barry may be forgiven. Blame it on Rezko.

The counts are ‘soft’. As more data comes in they are adjusted. I saw info on MYDD that numbers for CA have shifted also. Another tid-bit… these are pledged delegates, not ‘bound.’ They can change as the move on to the next stage of the process. Obama camp has replaced some delegates for ones they felt would be absolute in their support.

Sugar and Mimi are thoughtful Human Beings. From what I read of their posts, they are not inclined to vote for Senator Obama and have not expressed any sentiment or comments about being dis- enfranchised. (I could be wrong)

What’s your point,Cee?

Ann Coulter with freckles and falsies?

Please remove that song.

It reminds me all to much of the chanting multitude in Apple’s first Super Bowl commercial.

If I had a hammer……………..

Cee –

Tribe? Mississippi of the North areas of PA?

Your comments are despicable.

You can’t get it out of your head, can you. I had trouble until I called Tom Cruise for help.

Susan,

Part of the reason Blacks aren’t voting as much can be these two factors:

1. Church issues (issues like Gay marriages, for example, doesn’t appeal to them). This has become an important voting block in itself in the last 4 years.

2. They’re afraid of the outcome of another Malcolm X and MLK, Jr (as was alluded to in the SC coverage by Black voters).

They sure didn’t cross-over to the Republicans. So they’re sitting out for other reasons.

not if she picks an African American VP, and I’m not talking about BO.

I personally would love to Stephanie Tubbs Jones, at least she has more experience in a Federal branch than BO.

I judge her to be of fair superior intellect and judgment to BO.

Personally I think he already has whether by design or not, I don’t know. Remember the original pie fight…?

Teak,

Susan is making the point that the VAUNTED black votes aren’t a factor.

Andy,

They’ll be a larger factor later. I was speaking of now.

I did read that. They want the naturalization sped up so they can vote this time.

It won’t happen and you know why.

It’s not about being taken in by “Barack Obama’s bullshit”. It’s very difficult for black folks (like myself) to just disregard Senator Obama. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A MORE VIABLE BLACK CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT! Don’t you see understand that. Seeing Senator Obama run is a source of pride in the black community. He’s the “See, one of us can do it” guy. You just can’t dismiss that as taken in by bullshit. That’s insulting as hell.

Sheesh…

Dog,

Those days are over. You need to start listening to black talk radio.

I don’t think this is OT, Susan, but please let me know if I’m out of bounds. The March 10 New Yorker arrived in the mail today with a nine pp. article on Michelle Obama-”The Other Obama” by Lauren Collins. Collins’ tone is interested-friendly, and candor the overarching purpose, covering everything her thesis at Princeton, her 2007 salary increase [approximately 250% to almost $325,0000 annually], M.’s family, Barack and Michelle’s social life, their church and Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., M.’s observations re: AAs in white society, and her attitude re: the Clinton’s. Well worth reading. I am interested in any and all observations if you have time to read it. For what it’s worth, I think “slicing and dicing while smiling” summed it up.

How is Senator Obama sowing “discord” and it’s discouraging we black folks?

I don’t get that all. Can you explain please?

They’re afraid of the outcome of another Malcolm X and MLK, Jr (as was alluded to in the SC coverage by Black voters).

Chris,

Excellent point. I think this was a reason that some voted the way they did because of race.
The pollsters and those in the MSM percieved it as bigotry.

The chruch issue applies to many regardless of race.
Be in the world but not of it.

Mike,

I’m going to make an exception and speak to you.

You’re still an ignorant ass.

A clarification-the article is an interview with Michelle Obama, as well as ethnographic details-descriptions, chats with people who know MO, etc. A measure of her audacity, is summed up in the following: MO, when asked is her husband could “take” John McCain, said “Oh, yeah. We got him.”

He is a fraud. Learn more about him before you project your hopes on him. If you are fooled by him, he will set the possibility of an honest black president back generations.

…he will set the possibility of an honest black president back generations.

OH MY! What a inane thing to say. But I’ll play stupid for a bit. How about this one:

George Bush Jr. has set back the possibility of an honest white president back generations.

So Senator Clinton and Senaton McCain don’t stand a chance because as “set back the white race”. And a whole bucket load of white people were fooled by President Bush.

When it comes to black folks, why do some people give us the “one shot deal” angle? The whole “one bad black messes up all blacks” (not saying Senator Obama is bad). If that was the norm in this world for all colors, none of us would be here.

That’s why I’m glad I’m not beholden to the Arse or the Elefunk. And for the record, I’m not supporting any of the empty suit Senators (Clinton-Obama-McCain) for President. As you can see, Wall Street has our fate in their hands and Presidents have proven they can’t handle that beast.

Election ’08: See segregation alive and well.

1. Blacks aren’t a factor.
2. Latinos are the future.
3. Better make sure you appeal to whites.
4. Spongebob Squarepants keeps the patties warm!

Yuck…

George Bush Jr. has set back the possibility of an honest white president back generations.

T,

ROFL!!!!

How about the white women who didn’t read the NIE and voted to authorize the Iraq war thinking that her white male oppenent who also didn’t read the NIE and voted to authorize war are more qualified to be commander and chief than THE NEGRO who wasn’t paranoid, stupid or hateful enough to support any of it?

I think a native American of either sex would have first rights to US presidency before Afro=Americans if karma applied.

Huh??

Cee –

The Negro? Do you mean half white Barack Obama?

In any event, he’s such a newbie that he wasn’t even in the Senate when the vote occurred.

Secondly, Obama has voted each time to fund the war.

T-Steel –

No, I really don’t get it. What has Barack Obama done for black folks like you?

The only thing I know about is him letting black people freeze so that he could get campaign donations and a mansion.

How is that any better than Jesse Jackson?

Cee –

More of your delightful repartee! Your keen insight and intellect is so wasted on us here.

Cee –

Tribe? Mississippi of the North areas of PA?

Your comments are despicable.

Nothing to add to these little charmers of yours?

TSteel is that HUh for me? I would like to see a Native American in the race for presidency. Black or Afro-American is further down the list of natural justice.

My gosh! It’s identity politics time. That black man never done nothing for black folks! The shame!

But I’ll play along. First, it’s about the optics Mike. Many black folks see a black man running for POTUS. I have an 98 year old great grandfather who has said that “Obama is the realization of all the hard work we’ve put into America”. Optics man! Heck, even though I’m not voting for him (I’m a third party guy), I even felt it. Look at our great nation’s history. And if you can’t understand why a large percentage of blacks will forgive him of his “transgressions” then nothing ever will.

And Jesse Jackson is a preacher. Much different than Barack Obama.

AH! I get your point now. Sorry about that.

Can’t really argue with your point and I’m black. But that makes us racists for making the point.

I would question whether he is a viable candidate with all due respect. Even a Senator that is endorsing him can’t even name an accomplishment.

He is not experienced enough and he admits that himself in 2004… he said would not be on the National Ticket in 2008 because he doesn’t have the experience and he believes that people should be to do the job that they are applying for and that is why he will not be on the ticket.

His background and record is weak at best ….. and we are in difficult times.

I think he he really cared about this country, he would have stuck to his belief in 2004 and been a work horse in the Senate not a show horse. Have the meetings for the oversight in Afghanistan…stand up in the Senate and be a voice on record to get our troops home. Position your self even to be a VP on the ticket!

Then we would have had the best of both worlds…..winning the white house back in November, a unified party, and then he would have won by a landslide in 2016, he would have been ready, and young enough….and would have made double history first black VP and President.

Unfortunately, do to his own selfishness, he ruined it for everyone! He counted on forming a religious movement that would overlook his record and focus only on his skin color and rush him into office without giving it second thought.

We all deserve better than that for our country. I understand being proud because of his skin color, yet I would also hope that you would really want him to have the ability (proven) to be a good President.