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Obama’s Foreign Policy Follies (UPDATED)

The American people are getting a chance to see how unprepared Barack Obama’s team of advisors are to help lead this country through the minefield of foreign policy problems that await the next President. Thank God Barack’s advisors are not allowed to carry firearms. They have spent the past week metaphorically shooting themselves in the feet and other delicate areas. Just imagine the damage they would do with real bullets.

We started with the Austan Goolsbee flap. You know, Barack’s senior economics advisor who told the Canadians essentially that Senator Obama’s public comments about NAFTA did not reflect his true feelings. Poor Austan did not understand that foreign governments take notes and file reports with their counterparts back home.

(UPDATED)  Good lord!  Obamatrons really are pathetic.  They construct a complete bullshit story that the Clinton campaign was somehow responsible for the Goolsbee blow up.    Well, the Canadians say, “Nonsense!”:

Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton never gave Canada any secret assurances about the future of NAFTA such as those allegedly offered by Barack Obama’s campaign, Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s office said Friday.

Not to be outdone, Susan Rice, a senior foreign policy advisor, jumps into the fray and essentially shoots Barack in the back when she admits that neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton are qualified to answer a crisis phone call at 3am.

But wait, there is more. Samantha Powers, another high powered foreign policy advisor personally selected by Obama, calls Hillary Clinton a monster and then pulls a Goolsbee–she tells the BBC that Barack’s stated plan to withdraw two battalions a month from Iraq is not firm and will depend on what the situation on the ground is in January of 2009. While that may be a sensible position it does not jive with Obama’s public position. And in a Presidential campaign a major task for any candidate is to persuade voters that he or she can be trusted. Well, this string of advisors saying their candidate does not mean what he says does not build the warm and fuzzy feeling among prospective voters.

But that’s not all. John Brennan joined the party. Think Progress has the story:

Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) has consistently spoken out and voted against granting retroactive immunity for telecoms that participated with the administration’s warrantless wiretapping program. This stance was part of the reason he won the support of Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), a leader on civil liberties issues.

One of Obama’s advisers on intelligence and foreign policy advisers, however, is someone who “strongly” supports telecomm immunity. John Brennan is a former CIA official and the current chairman of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance. In a new National Journal interview, Brennan makes it clear that he agrees with the Bush administration on the issue of immunity.

Brennan is not some “Johnny come lately” adviser. He’s an experienced hand. Brennan headed the National Counter Terrorism Center in his last job in the Bush Administration. It was under John Brennan’s watch that the Bush Administration issued false statistics on the number of terrorist attacks in 2004. He tried to cook the books and keep the public in the dark that terrorist attacks had soared to unprecedented levels. So if he is taking a position directly opposite of his candidate it has to mean he’s gotten the same wink and nod that Austan Goolsbee and Samantha Powers got from Senator Obama.

Now, everyone can make a mistake. But this is ridiculous. These people cannot be trusted to accurately represent their candidate’s public positions on key issues and Senator Obama wants the American people to trust his judgment in selecting folks to run the bureaucracies that he already admitted he can’t run? God save us.

  • Mike Howell

    Great info. Larry!

    Sen. Claire McCaskill – Obama’s chief stooge and truly hideous Attorney General promisee – voted for immunity as well. And her most recent husband is a big time Republican…

  • ces

    Thanks for that, sir.

    It’s getting to be so obvious that he has just gotten the low-hanging fruit, as it were.

    I mean, who else does he have? If MO say they are both unready to answer the 3AM EST call (ha ha), than that means the POTUS has to have good advisors.

    Well, the follies and fireworks are duds. Who’s next? Let’s vet the ‘Team O’.

    “Let’s HOPE we know what we’re doing.”

  • Sarah

    Hey Larry -
    First time on your site, drawn here by your terrific F-ck KOs post, which I arrived upon after trailing the inane Obama-video-darkening story…

    I have to say – I once liked KOs but they’ve completely jumped the shark and now I no longer go there. I think your Orwell analogy is on-target.

    However…coming upon your site I see basically every post onthe Home page is anti-Obama.

    I’m an HRC supporter and while I firmly agree with your theme that BO is not prepared…I’m wondering why your site is not more balanced.

    I’ve certainly not read every post or comment…but at first glance, this site is as much anti-BO as KO is anti-HRC.

    And I think either extreme is off-base. They both have strengths and weaknesses, but both would be enormous improvements over the current or GOP-potential WH occupant.

    The point is we have to arrive at a nominee without completely alienating the supporters of the one who finishes second.

  • http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

    This shows the advantage of a long campaign when facing an inexperienced opponent.

    The longer it goes, the greater the probability that his campaign will make a mistake.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Someone‘s on defense (better tell him the adage about defense/offense):

    Obama: Don’t Let Clinton Confuse You on My Iraq Stance
    Friday, March 7th, 2008

    Obama on Adviser Flaps: I Wasn’t Being ‘Drawn Into a Knife Fight’

    Brushes off two controversies with advisers in recent weeks while he stops to shake hands, grab a burger at diner in Casper, Wyoming.

    Was surprised to find his tab had been picked up by an AP shooter. Read full pool report here.

  • http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

    “basically every post onthe Home page is anti-Obama.”

    Things do get dicy from time to time.

    I just go with the flow and keep hitting the little red button on the right.

    Damned slot machine hasn’t paid off yet…….

  • JoeySky

    I think Obama is pretty confuse about this whole foreign policy thing.
    He’s not sure what he suppose to be doing in each circumstance. He and his advisors seem to be saying the wrong things all the time. I think it’s gonna be a disaster if this team actually run the country foreign policy.

  • fiscalliberal

    The interesting thing will be – can he learn from it. I think he has been always run unopposed and of course all previous campaigns did not have the extensive array of advisors.

    One might describe the task as hearding cats. Probably the real issue is you have to have a cadree of people around you, seasoned with experience and trusted.

    He just has not been arround log enough to develop that cadree of people. I think a new president appoints about 3,000 people. This takes a team around you familiar with your objectives and goals. They have to be people that can properly select all applicants, many of which are hucksters of the highest level.

    Obama is just not ready for the job

  • lemonv

    Sarah:

    However…coming upon your site I see basically every post onthe Home page is anti-Obama.

    You might want to meet Cee and Andy Bulbous. They are true blue Obama fans. Just stay on the site and you will meet them.

  • Mike Howell

    SusanUnPC –

    Did Obama crash a Weight Watchers meeting in the first photo?

    Did Time magazine darken his skin in the second photo?

    I know – I’m mean…

  • ChrisXP

    Knife fight?

    The guy really IS a sexist pig. If it’s not catcalls about claws, and other sexist terms straight from MSNBC, it’s now bringing in the crazy psycho-knife-welding-Fatal Attraction-woman imagery, now.

    Wished he’d just said a “gun fight” instead, because that would’ve hurt O-Bomba with an imagery they’d hate to lose!!

    *snip* *snip* O-Bomba!!

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Clinton Internet director Peter Daou has a new diary at Daily Kos about foreign policy. Masochist. It’s worth a visit just to see the immature comments.

  • kenoshaMarge

    McCaskill, who talks a good game and then fizzles miserably, also voted FOR telecom immunity. Nice to know that someone even considered for Democratic VP position would give the money boys a free ride to help the government spy on American Citizens.

  • Mike Howell

    Sarah –

    Because W is gone no matter what and O is dangerous.

  • ChrisXP

    Looking back to 2004…

    http://www.dailykos.com/user/ChrisXP/diary

    And how they treated me there, I can imagine the BS can get even worse! ;)

    But I told the truth about how and why Kerry couldn’t win, they didn’t listen. Hopefully, now Dems will — IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A PRESIDENT!!

  • anna shame

    Obama’s supporters on kos are up in arms about how she’ll steal the election and they’re claiming she’s endorsed McCain. I still like Obama but he’s in over his head. I want it to go on so she wins clearly enough for his supporters to accept it and move on and I hope she’ll pick him to be her second in command, but I have to say i had hoped he had more to back up his claims to greater wisdom and judgement. Id’ hoped that was really true. I wish he’d inspire his followers to end the hate and stick to the issues. These are issues, by the way, what he says and who he hires is what he’s basing his claims on.

  • Retired

    Reminds me somewhat of when George Stephanopoulos was asked about certain campaign promises that had not been kept. His reply? “We’ve kept all of the promises that we intended to keep.”

    Like Power implied, the ones that you don’t intend to keep don’t really matter anyway once you’re elected. Especially when you can claim ignorance of “the facts” when they were originally made.

    It would seem that in the Obama campaign, lies that give voters “hope” are acceptable. Other political figures from history have run such charismatic deception campaigns successfully. Can you name a few?

  • Sarah

    Mike -
    Sorry the delay -
    But seriously you think BO is dangerous?
    Can you elaborate?

  • ChrisXP

    I’m an HRC supporter and while I firmly agree with your theme that BO is not prepared…I’m wondering why your site is not more balanced.

    I’ve certainly not read every post or comment…but at first glance, this site is as much anti-BO as KO is anti-HRC.

    I came here also due to the famous “FUCK KOS” article (crosslinked via TalkLeft) where I was until weeks ago.

    There’s not many Pro-Hillary blogs/forums/sites around as Dems bit into the poisoned “unity” apple. From what I’ve seen at TalkLeft and even here, the owners/maintainers claim their blogs aren’t pro-Hillary to begin with (but they are, and why Hillary supporters hang out on them).

    About being “balanced”: If balanced means you must be a bot to love only Dem things, and turn blogs into yet another DK example, you can count on cross-overs (me included) to go elsewhere. We’re here because these pro-Hillary blogs aren’t rank partisan BS sites (some mild catcalls here and there, but not dripping with venom), and have better content. Sure not reading about it at the conservative sites!!

    Honey works 10x better than vinegar to attract cross-overs (and don’t think Dems can win just on the “grassroot” vote). DK, in contrast, is 10% concentrated white vinegar.

    I like TalkLeft, but had to leave as they’re too PC even over calling O-Bomba OBABA (I mean really, if you can’t call your opponent “granny” without it being considered “racist”, it’s not the name calling that is the problem it’s the censorship itself).

    So far, this blog is more about meat and potatoes, and not being anal about replies. That’s good for Hillary supporters to voice their concerns, especially when posting elsewhere when hit by the O-Bomba slime. Need to unwind with like kind!

    I can look past the partisan mud here (I’m a moderate Traditional conservative and know the sign here reads DEMOCRAT HEADQUARTERS, after all), maybe you can, too.

  • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

    Sarah,
    Apart from this site and Taylor Marsh, there is little on the web that defends Hillary. All of the main “progressive” blogs are swooning for Obama–Kos, HuffPost, TPM, etc. And, I don’t think Obama is competent to be President. I also don’t believe McCain is emotionally fit to be President. We’ll deal with him once Obama is toast.

  • Andy

    What’s your take on the recet SurveyUSA that has
    Obama still beating Clinton over McCain in number of delegates in the GE.
    I think this is the first poll conducted like this.
    It is interesteing to see the spilt of states and margins. But I confess it depressed the h—- out of me…. Here is the link

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/03/06/first_electoral_map_comparisons.html

  • BernieO

    I would not say Obama is intentionally dangerous, but this kind of inexperience can cause extremely dangerous problems for us and for the whole world. (Bush surely did.)
    JFK is a good example. He was not a serious legislator when he was in Congress and it showed when he became president. He was so unprepared for his meeting with Krushchev that Kruschev was emboldened to put missiles in Cuba. Kennedy was misled into the Bay of Pigs because he did not know enough to discount what he was being told by some gung-ho advisors (like today’s neocons). In Kennedy’s defense, unlike Bush he learned from his mistakes so by the time of the Cuban missile crisis he was not manipulated again. Luckily we avoided a huge disaster but it was a close call.
    Like Kennedy, Obama has not used his extremely short time as a Senator to prepare himself to take on the job of world’s most powerful person. His failure to hold even one substantive meeting of the committee he chairs which oversees European and NATO issues is a prime example of just how cavalier and overconfident he is. In this time of troubles we cannot afford to elect another person who is fueled primarily by hubris and amibition rather than competence. I believe Obama has the potential to be a great president but ONLY IF he gains some humility and takes time to prepare himself as Hillary has.

  • chris

    “I’m wondering why your site is not more balanced”

    Sarah,
    I appreciate anything you think should be “balanced”. What would you propose as “Balance”?

    I believe the stories here are the “balance” the counter balance if you will. If Obama’s campaign would own up to these things, they wouldn’t get so weighty on this end. It seems to be a basic in physics. As the fulcrum remains in center, the further they walk the plank one way, the more weight is required on the counterbalast to ensure “balance”.

    Again, I appreciate what I believe is your motivation in posting. I’m asking what “balance” would look like.

    Back when I would start up rookie radio reporters a college student asked me, “how should I cover these stories? I mean like FoxNews is rightwing, should I emphasise a ‘left’ position?”
    My response to her was, “Is poverty a left or right issue? Is pollution down in LaPorte a left or right issue?”

    The light bulb went off immediately.
    “They are neither.” she answered.

    “Then when does it become left or right?”

  • russ

    You people are so over the top. The objective is to have a DEM win the White House, the Senate, the House, and then the Supreme Court. Your vitriol hurts this effort. Chill out about Obama.

  • Sarah

    AGree on all points.

    So…if BO gets the nom, who are you voting for?

  • chris

    sorry, one more point. I was not against Obama until I watched his campaign and followers responding to valid criticisms. The more they couldn’t deal with the questions, and as a dualistic pathology set in, they would smear Hillary Clinton with worn out Republican Talking Points, the more I pointed out they are not the “politics of change” and the “hope” and “change” we’ve been looking for.

    I have written a few defenses to Clinton’s record, but only in the emphasis that I’ve been lied to for 16 years about her record and beliefs. Thank God a place like NoQuarter exists where I can evaluate my own illusions about her. I still have some misconceptions I’m sure. But I have been burst from the echo chamber of hatred against her.

    The visceral hatred towards Clinton from the Obamaniacs reveals that his message isn’t as glowy as he makes it. He is benefiting from sexist and politically ignorant people. He should evaluate that as an individual. He won’t because he’s an opportunist.

    In recent days I was discussing Obama with a friend who supports him over Clinton. Everytime I brought up something about Obama that hadn’t made in the MSM, he responded, “well Clinton…(insert smear)”

    I told him, “can you do this without Clinton? Assume I have nobody I support and answer to what I said about Obama. Besides you know how I feel about the Democratic Party, so think before speaking.”

    Amazing…he did it for a while. Poor guy had buyers remorse within about 10 minutes, and was backpeddling, but then he couldn’t help it, “well I’m just saying Clinton is sneaky, control freak, harpy who wants more War.”

    Sometimes the effects of this political intoxication are too strong for some.

  • http://noquartersusa.net/blog/2008/03/07/obamas-foreign-policy-follies/#more-1741 waldenpond

    Was watching Fox. I will research tomorrow but their poll showed Clinton doing better than Obama due to crossover… that is Clinton looses less Dems to McCain than Obama does, etc. Clinton performed better. It also had info on the amount of Latinos, women and working class that will stay vote for Clinton over McCain, and McCain over Obama. This is nothing new. It just shows a growing strength in the trend.

  • chris

    Nader.

  • ChrisXP

    Nader or writing in for Buchanan.

    Can’t support O-Bomba at all.

  • chris

    sorry you have a problem with a lively conversation that you can’t tolerate, but this is politics baby. The objective…..YOUR objective, not mine. My objective is to have a good President in the White House too, but if I have to chose between a crazy Republican who sings Bomb Bomb Iran, and an aloof opportunist Speecher who can’t even keep his staff from fucking up Canadian politics, then I will take the choice I know I believe in. That won’t be a Democrat.

    If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination, then I know the Democratic Party got their ass handed to them by the reality of the people. Currently the top brass is counting on Obama. They have thrown their support to his back, and I resent their positioning. I have no problem punishing them more.

    The Democratic Party has some major leadership issues with Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Why you think I have to be lock stock and barrell with them is not my concern, but I’ll be clear about them. The party is undemocratic, has no real direction, and they abandoned Clinton, engaged in sexist attacks on her, and many of them had the audacity to tell her to get out of the race over a 2% difference.

    If she wins the nomination, she’ll have earned it and I can back that. If Obama gets the nomination, I won’t support it because he’s a fraud, noob, and did not receive the scrutiny until this week.

    They have a history of attacking internal critics like McKinney and Kucinich with running candidates against them after they called for impeachment. They attack 3rd party candidates who are of no consequence, instead of focusing on the main threat, Bush.

    I don’t owe the Democratic Party a damn thing, and they’ll be all the wiser when they understand this.

    I am not going to chill out about Obama, the charletan, the hoodwinker, the opportunist.

  • http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com/mysite.rss.txt Halli Casser-Jayne

    …The Three Stooges + One. What a joke!

    Halli Casser-Jayne
    The Monster Mash
    http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com

  • barbh

    Susan, he’s as brave as you, I’ll go give him some love (rec)!

  • ChrisXP

    You people are so over the top. The objective is to have a DEM win the White House, the Senate, the House, and then the Supreme Court. Your vitriol hurts this effort. Chill out about Obama.

    Don’t YOU get it? The “unity” you seek gave Dems only 5 presidents in 48 years.

    If you want a 6th, you will have to step over some stumbling blocks in the way — and I hope this time it’s with Stilettos.

    No more “Mr. Nice Guy”, either win or stop the crying. Can’t be a damn victim forever.

  • Sarah

    Hope you guys are joking.

    See ya later.

  • barbh

    I used to think that I would like to see an Obama/Clinton ticket, but with the Rezko trial in the papers every day for the next three months, I don’t think I would want her to pick him for VP. I don’t see that he has the credentials to be a VP. I would not want to take a chance that something would happen to the prez if he was a vice. The more I find about him the less I have any inclination to want him on a DEM ticket in the GE, let the people of Illinois have him.

  • barbh

    Have the same thoughts about Nader myself or just not vote for a presidential candidate. It was a separate button here last time….

    Russ, I’ve always voted for candidates that I deem as progressive and liberal as the ticket deems (democrats), but I am registered as unaffiliated and don’t owe the dems a dam thing. So much for BO getting this independents vote! He will NOT.

    Furthermore I refuse to have the MSMs freshly diapering and powdering BOs bottom for most of the primary season, force me to have to cast a vote for him in November if they crowned him the nominee with their crapola coverage.

  • Simon

    If MO say they are both unready to answer the 3AM EST call (ha ha)

    I have to disagree with this statement, I think Clinton can answer that three am call.

    Period.

    Susan Rice has given me no reason to trust her judgement, her reasoning is suspect.

  • Simon

    O-Bomba OBABA

    ‘Bama O’Reilly? The Who?

    “Out here in the fields
    I fight for my deals
    I take kickbacks for my living.”

    ah, something like that…

  • Simon

    The guy really IS a sexist pig. If it’s not catcalls about claws, and other sexist terms straight from MSNBC, it’s now bringing in the crazy psycho-knife-welding-Fatal Attraction-woman imagery, now.

    I kind of like the image of Clinton taking Obama and the bots on, and winning, hands down.

    I guess knife fight, I think of “West Side Story.”

    “When you’re jet you are always a jet”

    Looks like he’s backing up, to me.

  • Simon

    I think a new president appoints about 3,000 people.

    That’s Rezko’s job, and Rezko is busy.

    Good point.

  • Simon

    Your diary is gone, Chris, I’d like to read it.

  • Simon

    Obama’s supporters on kos are up in arms about how she’ll steal the election

    I was thinking, after the Ohio and TX losses, Obama would not be above stealing Penn, simply because he has fully embraced the Rove way, as well as the Chicago way, and neither let the voters get in the way of an election.

  • Mel

    Hey, Obama Camp will destroy a former President, a class of people and a forgeign government, give them credit, they won’t go down easily!

  • Andy

    barbh did you mean Clinton/Obama ?

  • Simon

    I believe Obama has the potential to be a great president but ONLY IF he gains some humility and takes time to prepare himself as Hillary has

    .

    I have to disagree, just his adoption of Rovian strategy, conquer and divide, his CHOICE of this strategy is indicative of a lower functioning intellect.

    Added to this, which you completely ignored, is Obama’s connection to the Chicago corruption pool, as well as the Saddam bag man, Auchi, and the further implications which are being revealed through the Rezko trial. There are still investigative journalists asking pertinent, intelligent questions, the RIGHT questions.

    Anyone who is familiar with the evidence around this matter knows Obama is critically, fatally flawed. Have you read?

    At least JFK didn’t embrace Himmler, you know?

    Again, what are your reasons for believing Obama would be a great President?

  • Simon

    You people are so over the top. The objective is to have a DEM win the White House

    He’s not a democrat, he’s a fatally flawed corrupt opportunist, who in no way would further the democratic agenda.

    He is as much a democrat as Bush was a compassionate conservative.

    Break that bubble, face the truth about Obama, and the behind the scenes manipulations.

  • Simon

    Edwards, and work to see Obama, and the rest of them, in jail.

  • http://noquartersusa.net/blog/2008/03/07/obamas-foreigh-policy-follies/#comment-153780 waldenpond

    I followed links and came on a piece in American Thinker. It references an interview with the New Statesman. Does anyone have a link to this? I only have exerpts.

    Then she is asked, “…is there anyone he wouldn’t talk to”?
    She responded that there was no one among “elected heads of state. He won’t talk to Hamas, but he would talk to Abbas”. The interviewer points out that inconsistency inherent in her answer by informing the Harvard foreign policy expert that Hamas was a democratically-elected government and that Abbas’ Fatah party lost the last popular vote.
    Professor Power backtracked and then said that Barack Obama would talk to “heads of state” and swiftly veered off into a discussion about how America has supported dictatorships in the past. This seems to cut both ways. Would President Obama talk to Hamas? Is Hamas a dictatorship, democratically elected?
    (Professor Power might want to consult Jeanne Kirkpatrick’s distintion between dictatorships and authoritarian regimes and her belief that one can influence the latter, but should oppose the former.)
    Even the interviewer doubts Power’s sincerity at that point, titling the next section ” The Odd Fib”

    “…it is politically impossible for Obama to talk to Hamas, even if he wants to. She can’t say that, though” because of what he depicts as internet smears. The interviewer characterizes these criticisms as allegations that she is anti-Semitic. So far as I have seen, nobody has ever made this allegation. The focus has been on her policy principles.
    Then, in the money quote, Power plaintively complains:
    “So much of it is about: ‘Is he going to be good for the Jews?’”

  • Karen

    Thank God there is one site for Hillary….you will be hard pressed to find many progressive
    sites that aren’t in a drunken stupor on Obama”s
    Kool Aid. At least Larry gives you documented facts and is also someone one who has had real experience with Hillary on foreign policy and knows how good she is. I wish we could get Larry to go
    back on Olbermann and give him some real facts…his seems to have lost his desire to be like
    Edward R. Murrow who never shaded the truth on a story.

  • Andy

    russ: we are a pretty chill bunch here–you should compare with the level of discourse at almost every other single site irrationally spewing foam against Clinton; just for the sake of it. You don’t like her fine. You have serious questions, raise them and back them up with honest information.
    That’s what we do here.

    If Obama, its campaign or supporters don’t have the stomach to take the valid questions are being raised, well then should get out. Trust me; McCain doen’t need us to raise these questions. He will all by himself.
    Thinking “oh not let’s not say this and give ideas to McCain is so infantile that’d be comincal if the whole affair were not so serious.

    Here we look at facts, information and analyze what really worry us in a US President: those are not small words and deserve a serious analysis.

    We do get a bit frustrated when Obama who rides in his white horse trumpeting a “new kind of politics” “clean” and “transparent” lies to the american people or facts expose the hipocrisy of his discourse and speeches.

    Never forget Obama is the one that based his campaign in some utopian notion of “change” and “hope”.
    We don’t buy it and it insults at least my intelligence the facts in evidence that so throughtfully and seriously are discussed by Susan and Larry and other contributors.

    But as I said, I invite you to print out at random a thread from your favorite Kos or
    CNN or whatever site you like and compare their comments and what we do here.

    This is not the former USSR’s “for the love of the party”…. It’s about who is best suited to be
    President of the United States.

    We are the coolest. Enjoy !

  • Andy

    Could still write Hillary Clinton’s name in the ballot as well…

  • Andy

    Or Edwards…..

  • Mike Howell

    Sarah –

    Yes. I believe that to borrow the term from Chris above – Barack Obama is an opportunist of the worst kind.

    Barack Obama has shown a propensity for selling out his constituents whenever it will financially benefit him. He did this when he accepted campaign donations from Tony Rezko when he was being sued by the City for failing to heat his buildings.

    Obama did this every time he wrote letters on behalf of Tony Rezko, so that he could ultimately waste millions of taxpayer dollars – and that’s before the costs for his kickback scams trial.

    Barack Obama supported all of the Daley machine candidates and rose to the top of the machine. He screwed over all of the Reform candidates, who wanted to make life better for the people instead of just lining their pockets.

    And Barack Obama isn’t picky about how he gets a mansion or who gets hurt in the process. Three weeks after convicted for fraud Iraqi billionaire Nahdmi Auchi gave millions to Tony “The Fixer” Rezko, Rezko and Obama toured a mansion that Michelle Obama found out about.

    Rita Rezko, Tony’s wife, then helped the Obamas finance this dream home complete with a 1,000 bottle wine cellar – even though Rita earns only 37K a year and has only 35K in assets.

    Barack Obama’s spiritual leader Rev. Wright is a huge fan of Louis Farrakhan and his Church recently honored Farrakhan.

    Barack Obama has made poor choices in his top advisors Powers, Goolsby and Axelrod. Powers recently referred to white voters as Archie Bunker types and Goolsby told a representative of the Canadian government that Barack Obama was actually deceiving the American electorate re: NAFTA, so they shouldn’t worry.

    Axelrod is Obama’s programmer. The man writing for the teleprompter and providing Obama’s empty rhetoric.

    Michelle Obama tripled her salary at the hospital where she turns away the poor and uninsured within a few weeks of Obama’s election win. She also solicited for and got two other Board seats – one at Treehouse Foods where they fired Latinos while making millions in profits. Michelle agreed to compensate Treehouse’s CEO so much that he earned a spot as one of the most overpaid CEO’s.

    Yet, Michelle Obama says that she can only really be proud of her husband’s campaign out of all that is and has been American. Clearly, she’s not grateful for her Ivy League education or career. Only Obama’s campaign.

    Barack Obama injected himself in the election in Kenya involving his cousin and a bloodbath resulted.

    Barack Obama gave a scary answer regarding nuclear force and fighting terrorism in the mountains at a press club breakfast, which was so terrible that he had to immediately retract it.

    Barack Obama has displayed a Cheneyish propensity to lie. About anything and everything.

    At least when Bush said he was a Decider he was correct. He has made numerous bad decisions.

    Barack Obama with much the same pathology calls himself a Uniter. This is patently false advertising. He is a Divider. His constant and continual complaints of racism are completely unfounded and irresponsible.

    His campaign has sought to destroy the legacy of Bill Clinton, when his campaign in fact authored a memo on injecting race into the campaign. And to this day, nobody in the Obama campaign has been held accountable.

    Goolsby still represents Obama as his free range liar and deceiver of the electorate.

    Barack Obama denied the meeting ever occurred until the Canadian gov’t's memo was released. But Barack Obama has never apologized to the American people or the Canadians.

    Barack Obama has said that he isn’t a CEO type or organized. His wife says he can’t be trusted to put the butter back in the fridge.

    These are serious times and it’s a deadly serious job. Barack Obama is a dangerous candidate.

  • Karen

    Can you believe Obama’s comment on this Powers thing when he was asked….he said he didn’t want to get in the middle of a knife fight…..At least he didn’t say, cat fight.

  • Andy

    Sorry got cut off…

    Again:

    Or Edwards if you wish….

    I use dto like him; but I think he lacked courage after he dropped; should have endorsed Clinton but gave in to his advisors some of whom said publicly they would do everything in their power to stop Edwards from endorsing Clinton

  • ChrisXP

    Never had a diary. Posted in the commentaries.

  • Andy

    Mike, where is this info

    Rita Rezko, Tony’s wife, then helped the Obamas finance this dream home complete with a 1,000 bottle wine cellar – even though Rita earns only 37K a year and has only 35K in assets.

    I find it fascinating ! (love wine too ;-)

    The association with Wright and Farrakhan troubles me a lot. Rezko would probably not make it into the WH but these fellows could; and I don’t want them anywhere near. Obama has distance himself from Jeremiah Wright only b/c of the campaignm. This is fact. He and Wright themselves reported on this. But you bet Wright would “live” inthe WH being Obama’s own personal pastor; the one who transformed him and inspires him and gave him the title of his sermon the audacity of hope for Obama’s book.

  • Andy

    Wow….seems she is not so clear herself on what position to take and on some important foreign policy definitions …
    Sad to see her under this light; I respected her thinking and passion against recent genocides.

  • ces

    (ha ha) = snarky comment = I agree with you.

  • Kathy

    This is off topic, but has anyone unearthed Obama’s three years at Columbia, i.e. where he lived, who he saw, his roommate, his girlfriend, etc. Where is the history for those three years. Am I the only suspicious one?

  • ces

    You forgot ‘bamboozler’.

    :)

  • ces

    I’m no expert, but it would seem that genocides are ‘simple’ compared to the larger global context. You have bad guys and their victims. One class/tribe against another. ‘Simple.’

    But the big leagues require putting everything together. Everything you do has a consequence. Say the wrong thing over ‘there’ and the political system of a country over ‘here’ can be shocked.

    Somebody has called ante, and Obama is coming up short.

  • Andy

    No, you are not. Susan has asked the same and I think we all would like to know.

    I assked also whether Obama might have met by any chance Ayers at Columbia (?)
    Ayers taught at Columbia but I have no idea when.

  • Andy

    Oops, I meant “I asked”

  • ritamary

    If BO gets the nom I will probably hold my nose and vote for him.

  • Mike Howell
  • TeakWoodKite

    All the beautiful sounds of the world in a single word:
    Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria.

  • TeakWoodKite

    In this country? I want the earth to be green so it will be ? Close?

  • TeakWoodKite

    SSSHHHH everyone. Russ would like us to ignore the elephant in the room.

    With all respect Russ. We are not talking about the price of milk!

  • Nellie

    Mike,

    Fantastic Round-up of the major issues. Good Job man.

  • Nancy H. Armstrong

    I listened to the Powers interview. Did anyone else? She made a remark about Grodon Brown….something to the effect of what has happened to him wasn’t he supposed to be good or something. The first time I heard it I thought it was a mistake….it wasn’t I heard it again.

    What gave her the right to all but insult a PM in the UK? I haven’t heard anyone even discuss this little nugget in her interview. We need to jump on this one.

    If I am wrong please correct me…

  • Nellie
  • Nellie

    Great

    Seems like the Hope and Change Unity people specialize in antagonizing other countries

  • http://lnx-bsp.net/ Tel

    On issues like this, I think you will find both Hillary and Obama supporting Big Business first and everyone else second.

    Where is experienced Hillary on this “Telecom Immunity” issue? Well, she has talked about a fillibuster to stop them getting immunity but in the senate she skipped the vote. Does anyone here seriously think that Hillary is going to stray far enough from the establishment to see a corporation get a whacking for breaking the law?

    Hillary made so many speeches about Civil Liberties but when it comes to real action and weighing up the money interest against the people’s interest, just don’t expect any telcos to ever face justice. This holds for a good fraction of the other Democrats too. That’s what experience equates to: knowing that favours beat principles.

  • Nancy H. Armstrong

    Sorry all…Powers made that in some other interview. The American Thinker dated March8, 2008 quoted her as saying something akin to an insult. This woman does not know when to stop!

  • Jim

    Try BartCop.com, Larry. He’s been losing subscribers for months because he has the temerity to think Hillary is the better candidate. He’s never bad-mouthed Obama, but his hate mail is full of accusations that he does. Pathetic really. He’s a great guy and could use the support. You’ll at least get a laugh.

    HuffPost is an absolute sewer. They’re mainly down to talking to other Obama supporters railing at how Hillary is wrecking the party because she, what, wants to win?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Imagine my surprise when 2 threads back, Mr Murder posted the link regarding John Brennan.

    Thanks for you the post.

    What does one do on this committee exactly?
    Senator Obama:
    Member, Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security

    What International Security, for Department of State?
    These departments are an interseting mix, whats up with that?

  • http://bucknakedpolitics.typepad.com/buck_naked_politics/2008/03/obamas-foreig-1.html Buck Naked Politics

    Obama’s Foreign Policy: Who Knows? Not His Campaign. …

    Posted by Damozel | I’ve been bemused for quite awhile by all the support for Obama among progressives. Will three recent news reports cause the scales to fall from their eyes? At the moment, they’re all blaming Hillary for giving him a couple of kno…

  • v4hill

    NAFTA-gate: Muddy waters

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5iyggr_9K4

    oh..snap!

  • Mike Howell

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/832706,CST-NWS-obama08.article

    The Sun-Times gets it after Susan! I’ll put this on the Powers thread too.

  • Mike Howell

    How about that affected arrogant ass pose he likes to take!

  • Mr. Left
  • ChrisXP

    What’s not said in that Rwandian slur, was that the UN chief himself LIED to the world, that no genocide was occurring. He only apologized YEARS later, for looking the other way.

    It was the UN pushing that no genocide was occurring, and like the Jewish Holocaust FDR ignored (remember???), without that public acknowledgment little could be done.

    The same was played out in Palestine. Bosnia. Somalia, and now the Dafur crisis.

    Finger pointing doesn’t cure the problem, as you partisans know damn well you’re not going to stop them. The hypocrisy involved of playing with dead bodies like chess pieces, is UGLY, INSULTING, and BARBARIC.

    For shame!! >:(

  • Simon

    Finger pointing doesn’t cure the problem, as you partisans know damn well you’re not going to stop them. The hypocrisy involved of playing with dead bodies like chess pieces, is UGLY, INSULTING, and BARBARIC.

    Well, no, Chris, it has to be stopped because it is politically destabilizing, not in the better interests of anyone, despite what they may think.

    In addition, it is morally repugnant, why wasn’t anything done?

    Let’s find out, and make sure it doesn’t happen again.

    That’s the whole point of Congressional hearings, improving the system, for the long term.

    That’s why the 9.11 commission was such a sham, nothing was really done to improve the system, assign blame to the RIGHTFUL parties, hold Bush responsible for not reacting to the PDB, finding out why he and Cheney failed to protect the country.

  • Simon

    Where is experienced Hillary on this “Telecom Immunity” issue? Well, she has talked about a fillibuster to stop them getting immunity but in the senate she skipped the vote

    Agreed, and this is something that needs to be examined, too.

    But it still does not negate the arguments against Obama, and Auchi, and Rezko, the corruption, and the damage, horrifying in scope.

    Clinton is not implicated, as least at this juncture.

  • Simon

    And what was Obama doing when he wasn’t in school?

    So many blanks in the resume, and no one is answering any questions.

    Do we need to depend on Larry Sinclair?

    It makes me think they’re trying to hide something incredibly damaging in regard to Obama’s past, and it is naive for his handlers, and the stupid “democratic party leaders” to pretend it won’t be an issue. TPTB know.

    It’s simply a matter of when it will be released.

    And btw, this is why the democrats lose elections.

    As opposed to facing up to Obama’s weaknesses as a candidate,(he’s toast, he will not win) and the fact republicans are starting to clean the floor with him, as they planned, the democratic leaders spin themselves into further chaos, by defending a weak and fatally flawed Obama, trying to cover up, denying the reality of what is happening.

    Why?

    Did their teen age kids tell them to?

    It won’t get better.

  • Simon

    Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria

    Tony, in a lear jet.

    Well, Obama is supposed to be the new Blair.

    Heh.

  • Cee

    Ponder this

    The Hillary-McCain-Diebold connection
    Posted by: PowerToThePeople (IP Logged)
    Date: March 07, 2008 03:53PM

    Mark Penn’s client, United Technologies, is now trying to buy Diebold.

    From BusinessWeek:

    “United Technologies Corp. on Wednesday said it is committed to its $40-per-share bid for Diebold Inc. and is prepared to begin due diligence immediately, despite the company’s rejection of the offer.

    On Sunday, United Technologies… made the unsolicited bid to acquire Diebold, a manufacturer of ATMs and voting machines. The offer was a 66 percent premium over the North Canton, Ohio, company’s closing price Friday.”

    United Technologies, from its origins in 1925 as Pratt & Whitney Aircraft, has consistently relied on the beneficence of those in power. Like other military contractors, UT has accrued private profits at public expense; so much so during WW2 that then-United Technologies president Eugene Wilson described the company’s fortunes as “unconscionable profits”.

    I wonder why United Technologies would be interested in owning Diebold’s hackable voting machines. Hmmm.
    http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/read.php?16,623319,623319

  • ANTHONY

    THANK GOODNESS PEOPLE HAVE THEIR EYES WIDE OPEN. WHAT I SEE IN THE NEAR FUTURE IS A BLUNDER BY THE PARTY LEADERS WHO ARE GOING TO DO THE FINAL SELECTION AND THE WHOLE OF THE USA WILL CRY OUT WITH ONE VOICE. THIS WILL GIVE MCCAINN, A STRAIGHT WIN AS SO MANY MIGHT SHUNN THE ELECTIONS AND THE PARTY ITSELF. LET US BE ALL FAIR IN JUDGING ONE ANOTHER AND WE WILL NOT KINDLE FLAMES THAT WILL BE TOO HOT FOR ANYONE TO QUENCH!

  • Nancy H. Armstrong

    This is a disturbing story yes, but Bill Clinton has come clean about Rhwanda. He has talked about the fact this it is one of the largest mistakes he ever made. Obama has as an adviser…Susan Rice. She is partly to blame for the Rhwandan genocide. While Bill Clinton holds the ultimate responsibility for these atrocities he used Susan Rice as an adviser … now Obama uses her as an adivser. What does that say about Obama?

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