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		<title>By: Cee Hussein</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161760</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee Hussein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benie,

Have you forgotten Hillary&#039;s rush to power when she bigfooted Nita Lowey??

I love her and was sad to see her trying to defend Hillary on MTP.

She&#039;s a much better woman and legislator than Hillary ever was or will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benie,</p>
<p>Have you forgotten Hillary&#8217;s rush to power when she bigfooted Nita Lowey??</p>
<p>I love her and was sad to see her trying to defend Hillary on MTP.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s a much better woman and legislator than Hillary ever was or will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Nellie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161223</link>
		<dc:creator>Nellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you really believe it is Just naivete instead of cold calculation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really believe it is Just naivete instead of cold calculation?</p>
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		<title>By: Nellie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161220</link>
		<dc:creator>Nellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad - but oh so true.

Hpefully Hillary gets in and kicks butt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad &#8211; but oh so true.</p>
<p>Hpefully Hillary gets in and kicks butt.</p>
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		<title>By: Nellie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161212</link>
		<dc:creator>Nellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great links - superb summary. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great links &#8211; superb summary. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Nellie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161185</link>
		<dc:creator>Nellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan

{{{HUGS}} to you and Bear. Hope he heals as quickly as you seem to do.

&lt;em&gt;Reworked Rev. Wright&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;Audacity TO Hope &lt;/strong&gt;Speech for the 2004 Democratic Convention.&lt;/em&gt; 

You missed that one.

This made me laugh:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Where is the Dali Lama when you need him?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I like that guy - so much plain old fashion common sense expressed in the most down to earth and positive way.

Susan, Please do let us know how you and Bear are doing. We all care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan</p>
<p>{{{HUGS}} to you and Bear. Hope he heals as quickly as you seem to do.</p>
<p><em>Reworked Rev. Wright&#8217;s <strong>Audacity TO Hope </strong>Speech for the 2004 Democratic Convention.</em> </p>
<p>You missed that one.</p>
<p>This made me laugh:</p>
<blockquote><p>Where is the Dali Lama when you need him?</p></blockquote>
<p>I like that guy &#8211; so much plain old fashion common sense expressed in the most down to earth and positive way.</p>
<p>Susan, Please do let us know how you and Bear are doing. We all care!</p>
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		<title>By: ginaswo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161132</link>
		<dc:creator>ginaswo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for the post Susan

I hope Bear is okay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for the post Susan</p>
<p>I hope Bear is okay</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161067</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I find it a bit curious that a
founder of moveon.org finds out &lt;em&gt;now&lt;/em&gt; about Obama.... Wright has been out there for a while;
the NYT and RS wrote about him over a year ago; there are YouTube videos about a year old. I knew about his association to Farrakhan, their trip to Lybia for a while, about his 9/11 comments and read about his Jan 2006 speeech about Aids.

What leads me to think: (a) either they wanted to be blind b/c of [..you fill the blanks..]
(b) some of these people are really naive
(c) they knew but are just embarrased it finally 
caught up with the public at large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I find it a bit curious that a<br />
founder of moveon.org finds out <em>now</em> about Obama&#8230;. Wright has been out there for a while;<br />
the NYT and RS wrote about him over a year ago; there are YouTube videos about a year old. I knew about his association to Farrakhan, their trip to Lybia for a while, about his 9/11 comments and read about his Jan 2006 speeech about Aids.</p>
<p>What leads me to think: (a) either they wanted to be blind b/c of [..you fill the blanks..]<br />
(b) some of these people are really naive<br />
(c) they knew but are just embarrased it finally<br />
caught up with the public at large.</p>
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		<title>By: BernieO</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161066</link>
		<dc:creator>BernieO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess I am now talking to - or writing to myself.....
I just wanted to post a few thoughts about the odious, but occasionally insightful Bill Kristol&#039;s column about Obama&#039;s pastor in today&#039;s NYTimes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;This doesn’t mean that Obama agrees with Wright’s thoroughgoing and conspiracy-heavy anti-Americanism. Rather, Obama seems to have seen, early in his career, the utility of joining a prominent church that would help him establish political roots in the community in which he lives.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think Kristol hit the nail on the head. We seem to forget that Obama is a culturally white man who is half black, not the other way around. Yet he will always be regarded as a black man, just as Tiger Woods is. If he wanted to make a career in politics he needed to find a way to fit into the AA community and joining a large, influential black church was a way to make himself fit in. Ditto for all his talk about being on the edge and using &quot;blow&quot;. (When the NYTimes checked with his friends from high school and college, no one remembered him being into drugs. He was always a serious, good student so this was clearly political posturing.) 
I do not fault Obama for finding a way to be a part of this community in order to get elected, but there is no reason that he could not have found another church once Reverend Wright&#039;s bigotry became clear. Obama has to know that Wright&#039;s victim message is harmful to the very people that Obama was elected to represent. Yet he obviously believed that he was so special that he would not be held accountable for this - or for his association with Rezko. That behavior is strong evidence of the delusions of a person infected with hubris. It is a dangerous trait, as we have so painfully seen during the past eight years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess I am now talking to &#8211; or writing to myself&#8230;..<br />
I just wanted to post a few thoughts about the odious, but occasionally insightful Bill Kristol&#8217;s column about Obama&#8217;s pastor in today&#8217;s NYTimes:</p>
<blockquote><p>This doesn’t mean that Obama agrees with Wright’s thoroughgoing and conspiracy-heavy anti-Americanism. Rather, Obama seems to have seen, early in his career, the utility of joining a prominent church that would help him establish political roots in the community in which he lives.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think Kristol hit the nail on the head. We seem to forget that Obama is a culturally white man who is half black, not the other way around. Yet he will always be regarded as a black man, just as Tiger Woods is. If he wanted to make a career in politics he needed to find a way to fit into the AA community and joining a large, influential black church was a way to make himself fit in. Ditto for all his talk about being on the edge and using &#8220;blow&#8221;. (When the NYTimes checked with his friends from high school and college, no one remembered him being into drugs. He was always a serious, good student so this was clearly political posturing.)<br />
I do not fault Obama for finding a way to be a part of this community in order to get elected, but there is no reason that he could not have found another church once Reverend Wright&#8217;s bigotry became clear. Obama has to know that Wright&#8217;s victim message is harmful to the very people that Obama was elected to represent. Yet he obviously believed that he was so special that he would not be held accountable for this &#8211; or for his association with Rezko. That behavior is strong evidence of the delusions of a person infected with hubris. It is a dangerous trait, as we have so painfully seen during the past eight years.</p>
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		<title>By: Marjorie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161055</link>
		<dc:creator>Marjorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing. I thought I heard or read that Obama said he would keep Blackwater and the other contractors in Iraq, but would withdraw troops. Did anyone hear anything like that?
Hope Bear is doing well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing. I thought I heard or read that Obama said he would keep Blackwater and the other contractors in Iraq, but would withdraw troops. Did anyone hear anything like that?<br />
Hope Bear is doing well.</p>
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		<title>By: Marjorie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161052</link>
		<dc:creator>Marjorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in a motel breakfast area in Joplin, Mo. last Saturday morning. Two men [truckers, perhaps, as a truck stop was adjacent to the motel] at a table a few feet from where I was sitting said something I thought was about the Mi. primary. When I asked if he had heard something about it [I live in Mi], he said he saw the story about Obama and Rev. Wright on tv. He told me about it, and said he was going to vote for Hillary. 
This is obviously a sample of one [maybe two, if we count the other man] but someone who was disgusted with Obama and willing to volunteer a pro Hillary vote in a public place in Joplin, Mo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a motel breakfast area in Joplin, Mo. last Saturday morning. Two men [truckers, perhaps, as a truck stop was adjacent to the motel] at a table a few feet from where I was sitting said something I thought was about the Mi. primary. When I asked if he had heard something about it [I live in Mi], he said he saw the story about Obama and Rev. Wright on tv. He told me about it, and said he was going to vote for Hillary.<br />
This is obviously a sample of one [maybe two, if we count the other man] but someone who was disgusted with Obama and willing to volunteer a pro Hillary vote in a public place in Joplin, Mo.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161046</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I almost forgot. That video of Kyra Phillips interviewing Iraqi soldiers is &lt;strong&gt;just amazing&lt;/strong&gt;. I liked it so much that I downloaded it from CNN. It&#039;s just amazing... I&#039;m glad that you posted it here, Susan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I almost forgot. That video of Kyra Phillips interviewing Iraqi soldiers is <strong>just amazing</strong>. I liked it so much that I downloaded it from CNN. It&#8217;s just amazing&#8230; I&#8217;m glad that you posted it here, Susan.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161044</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck to Bear the cat. Susan, I know how you feel, I have 11 cats. Mostly all barn cats and strays, but all characters in their own right.

Right now, Hillary is giving a policy speech. It&#039;s being carried by CNN. OOooo... &#039;words are good only if you follow them with action.&#039; &quot;It&#039;s not the speeches a president delivers... it&#039;s whether a president delivers on his speeches.&quot; She blasted Obama on Samantha Power&#039;s little talk with the BBC... go Hillary! Excellent speech!! How she will care for our soldiers that are wounded. She will reduce length of tours. She will kick out the armed private military contractors... with the ultimate goal of forbidding such troops in any military operation.  No more no bid contracts. Oh, hell, they cut her off.


As for Wright, how anyone could characterize him as a moderate is really beyond me. Is there such a term as black supremacy? Why is it not racist to say the things he says? I guess I don&#039;t understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck to Bear the cat. Susan, I know how you feel, I have 11 cats. Mostly all barn cats and strays, but all characters in their own right.</p>
<p>Right now, Hillary is giving a policy speech. It&#8217;s being carried by CNN. OOooo&#8230; &#8216;words are good only if you follow them with action.&#8217; &#8220;It&#8217;s not the speeches a president delivers&#8230; it&#8217;s whether a president delivers on his speeches.&#8221; She blasted Obama on Samantha Power&#8217;s little talk with the BBC&#8230; go Hillary! Excellent speech!! How she will care for our soldiers that are wounded. She will reduce length of tours. She will kick out the armed private military contractors&#8230; with the ultimate goal of forbidding such troops in any military operation.  No more no bid contracts. Oh, hell, they cut her off.</p>
<p>As for Wright, how anyone could characterize him as a moderate is really beyond me. Is there such a term as black supremacy? Why is it not racist to say the things he says? I guess I don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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		<title>By: BernieO</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161042</link>
		<dc:creator>BernieO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree with you more. Obama&#039;s rush to power is  clear evidence of hubris. (Why don&#039;t more Dems see that?) What I am not sure of is whether this is a permanent condition that infects serious narcissists like Bush or if it is just the result of a smart,talented, charming young guy who has always been such a star that he needs to be knocked off his high horse to come down to earth, buckle down and realize his true potential. 
Unfortunately because of Obama&#039;s impatience, we may never find out. I am afraid that Obama may have destroyed his own chances by being so ridiculously overconfident in his ability to charm his way to the top. If the public is paying attention to the Reverend Wright issue, the Rezko mess, and Michelle&#039;s one woman pity party Obama will likely be   permanently tainted. 
Had Obama had more humility and used his time in the  Senate to take advantage of this great opportunity to prepare himself the way Hillary has done, Democrats would have had the prospect of not one, but two outstanding presidents for the next 16 years. Instead, his impatience and ambition will likely ruin the chances for one, if not both of them to ever be elected. It is a tragedy not only for the Democratic party but for our nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree with you more. Obama&#8217;s rush to power is  clear evidence of hubris. (Why don&#8217;t more Dems see that?) What I am not sure of is whether this is a permanent condition that infects serious narcissists like Bush or if it is just the result of a smart,talented, charming young guy who has always been such a star that he needs to be knocked off his high horse to come down to earth, buckle down and realize his true potential.<br />
Unfortunately because of Obama&#8217;s impatience, we may never find out. I am afraid that Obama may have destroyed his own chances by being so ridiculously overconfident in his ability to charm his way to the top. If the public is paying attention to the Reverend Wright issue, the Rezko mess, and Michelle&#8217;s one woman pity party Obama will likely be   permanently tainted.<br />
Had Obama had more humility and used his time in the  Senate to take advantage of this great opportunity to prepare himself the way Hillary has done, Democrats would have had the prospect of not one, but two outstanding presidents for the next 16 years. Instead, his impatience and ambition will likely ruin the chances for one, if not both of them to ever be elected. It is a tragedy not only for the Democratic party but for our nation.</p>
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		<title>By: glennmcgahhee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161027</link>
		<dc:creator>glennmcgahhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, I&#039;m sorry for kitty&#039;s problems. I know how that is. A family member in crisis.
Back to the topic. The wright sermons are available on DVD. Obama can&#039;t say he never heard of them. He probably owns them all. It really goes further to explain Michelle Obama&#039;s statement that &quot;for the first time in my adult life, I am proud of this country.&quot; Whaaa? I see there&#039;s a parade of Obama supporters on CSpan this morning doing damage control. Don&#039;t think its going to help much. How can Wright be defended? No matter what the pundits say, all Americans are going to be exposed to the vileness of this church. The IRS should get involved here. Watching the preacher talk about Hillary like he did. And blaming 911 on America? Its too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, I&#8217;m sorry for kitty&#8217;s problems. I know how that is. A family member in crisis.<br />
Back to the topic. The wright sermons are available on DVD. Obama can&#8217;t say he never heard of them. He probably owns them all. It really goes further to explain Michelle Obama&#8217;s statement that &#8220;for the first time in my adult life, I am proud of this country.&#8221; Whaaa? I see there&#8217;s a parade of Obama supporters on CSpan this morning doing damage control. Don&#8217;t think its going to help much. How can Wright be defended? No matter what the pundits say, all Americans are going to be exposed to the vileness of this church. The IRS should get involved here. Watching the preacher talk about Hillary like he did. And blaming 911 on America? Its too much.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1830/open-thread-a-rant/#comment-161024</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more:
Google cache for demforaday.com&quot;
Democrat For A DayDemocrat For A Day March 4, 2008. Your Subtitle text. Home Page · About Us. Republicans and Independents vote for Barack Obama and against Hillary Clinton ...
demforaday.com/ - 6k - Cached - Similar pages</description>
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Google cache for demforaday.com&#8221;<br />
Democrat For A DayDemocrat For A Day March 4, 2008. Your Subtitle text. Home Page · About Us. Republicans and Independents vote for Barack Obama and against Hillary Clinton &#8230;<br />
demforaday.com/ &#8211; 6k &#8211; Cached &#8211; Similar pages</p>
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