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		<title>By: tadacia</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1860/open-thread-with-reviews-a-request/#comment-1097246</link>
		<dc:creator>tadacia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: silden</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1860/open-thread-with-reviews-a-request/#comment-713595</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1860/open-thread-with-reviews-a-request/#comment-163930</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup.</description>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1860/open-thread-with-reviews-a-request/#comment-163745</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;White House Taps Tech Entrepreneur For Cyber Defense Post&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The presidential directive expanded the intelligence community&#039;s role in monitoring Internet traffic to protect against a rising number of attacks on federal agencies&#039; computer systems. According to the sources, the center will be charged with gathering cyber attack and vulnerability information from a wide range of federal agencies, including the FBI, the National Security Agency and the Defense Department. Beckstrom will report directly to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903125.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>White House Taps Tech Entrepreneur For Cyber Defense Post</strong><br />
<blockquote>The presidential directive expanded the intelligence community&#8217;s role in monitoring Internet traffic to protect against a rising number of attacks on federal agencies&#8217; computer systems. According to the sources, the center will be charged with gathering cyber attack and vulnerability information from a wide range of federal agencies, including the FBI, the National Security Agency and the Defense Department. Beckstrom will report directly to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903125.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903125.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hillary&#8217;s Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hillary&#8217;s Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a Smart Man, Obama Sure Doesn&#8217;t Know a Lot of Things (by BDBlue at Corrente Wire, thanks to No Quarter) Despite being the editor of the Harvard Law Review and a former law professor, he doesn’t know [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a Smart Man, Obama Sure Doesn&#8217;t Know a Lot of Things (by BDBlue at Corrente Wire, thanks to No Quarter) Despite being the editor of the Harvard Law Review and a former law professor, he doesn’t know [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1860/open-thread-with-reviews-a-request/#comment-163636</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Andy, I read it then...
That&#039;s nine days ago!!!!
What made NQ great and Larry a national treasure was that the kind of post you refer to used to be DAILY fare, several times a day even...
Here we are with doomsday approaching and what&#039;s going on?? NQ goes apoplectic because some religious fool (pleonastic) dares not feel sanctified by 9/11 but actually tells.... the truth, that 9/11 was blowback for our endless crimes around the world!!!!
As I&#039;ve said elsewhere on NQ, just you wait for the Iraq blowback...
If we bomb Iran, the blowback will be MUCH MUCH quicker!!!!
But we won&#039;t be getting any advance insight here, unfortunately! Well, we&#039;ll have to wait nine days I&#039;m afraid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Andy, I read it then&#8230;<br />
That&#8217;s nine days ago!!!!<br />
What made NQ great and Larry a national treasure was that the kind of post you refer to used to be DAILY fare, several times a day even&#8230;<br />
Here we are with doomsday approaching and what&#8217;s going on?? NQ goes apoplectic because some religious fool (pleonastic) dares not feel sanctified by 9/11 but actually tells&#8230;. the truth, that 9/11 was blowback for our endless crimes around the world!!!!<br />
As I&#8217;ve said elsewhere on NQ, just you wait for the Iraq blowback&#8230;<br />
If we bomb Iran, the blowback will be MUCH MUCH quicker!!!!<br />
But we won&#8217;t be getting any advance insight here, unfortunately! Well, we&#8217;ll have to wait nine days I&#8217;m afraid!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1860/open-thread-with-reviews-a-request/#comment-163618</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“I think it played well with intellectuals. I think they got it. I don’t know if everyone else did.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Kathy, don&#039;t worry: 

Ridley is obviously not an intellectual or he would have expressed himself correctly : i.e

“I think it played well with &lt;strong&gt;some &lt;/strong&gt; intellectuals. I think &lt;strong&gt;some of them&lt;/strong&gt; got &lt;strong&gt;what they wanted to hear&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strike&gt; it&lt;/strike&gt;.  I don’t know if everyone else did.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“I think it played well with intellectuals. I think they got it. I don’t know if everyone else did.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Kathy, don&#8217;t worry: </p>
<p>Ridley is obviously not an intellectual or he would have expressed himself correctly : i.e</p>
<p>“I think it played well with <strong>some </strong> intellectuals. I think <strong>some of them</strong> got <strong>what they wanted to hear</strong> <strike> it</strike>.  I don’t know if everyone else did.”</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you care to look; you&#039;ll find them. Here on Iran for example: (3/11/08)
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/11/one-step-closer-to-war-in-iran/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you care to look; you&#8217;ll find them. Here on Iran for example: (3/11/08)<br />
<a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/11/one-step-closer-to-war-in-iran/" rel="nofollow">http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/11/one-step-closer-to-war-in-iran/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1860/open-thread-with-reviews-a-request/#comment-163607</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On MSNBC this morning, John Ridley (Esquire magazine), answered the question:  &quot;How do you think Obama&#039;s speech went over with everyone?&quot;  His answer:  &quot;I think it played well with intellectuals.  I think they got it.  I don&#039;t know if everyone else did.&quot;

Sad Obama isn&#039;t an intellectual.  If he was he wouldn&#039;t have had to give that speech and Rezko and Wright wouldn&#039;t be in his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On MSNBC this morning, John Ridley (Esquire magazine), answered the question:  &#8220;How do you think Obama&#8217;s speech went over with everyone?&#8221;  His answer:  &#8220;I think it played well with intellectuals.  I think they got it.  I don&#8217;t know if everyone else did.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sad Obama isn&#8217;t an intellectual.  If he was he wouldn&#8217;t have had to give that speech and Rezko and Wright wouldn&#8217;t be in his life.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1860/open-thread-with-reviews-a-request/#comment-163522</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a new article by William R. Polk on Juan Cole&#039;s Informed Comments about the possible war with Iran. Fascinating reading, begging for analysis by knowledgeable actors in intel circles.
You know, the kind of things No Quarter was famous for and expert in: Larry, Ray McGovern, Phil Giraldi, Pat Lang,..., would have a field day on these developments, and I would love to read them here!
Alas, NQ&#039;s pathological obsession with Evil Obama and Saint Clinton precludes such a thing. One has to go elsewhere for serene and serious discussion of security matters.
Conceivably, just as both Democratic candidates WILL stay in Iraq for years, it is the given that BOTH Obama AND Clinton will go along with a war against Iran that makes it difficult to discuss these things here!!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a new article by William R. Polk on Juan Cole&#8217;s Informed Comments about the possible war with Iran. Fascinating reading, begging for analysis by knowledgeable actors in intel circles.<br />
You know, the kind of things No Quarter was famous for and expert in: Larry, Ray McGovern, Phil Giraldi, Pat Lang,&#8230;, would have a field day on these developments, and I would love to read them here!<br />
Alas, NQ&#8217;s pathological obsession with Evil Obama and Saint Clinton precludes such a thing. One has to go elsewhere for serene and serious discussion of security matters.<br />
Conceivably, just as both Democratic candidates WILL stay in Iraq for years, it is the given that BOTH Obama AND Clinton will go along with a war against Iran that makes it difficult to discuss these things here!!?</p>
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		<title>By: godammitkitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1860/open-thread-with-reviews-a-request/#comment-163401</link>
		<dc:creator>godammitkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was really upset with Ehrenreich for posting that BS.  It&#039;s pure lies--Sen. Clinton is unabashedly pro-choice and has never blurred the line between private faith and public work.  It&#039;s one of the reasons I respect her. 

Note that Dr. Ehrenreich posted that *other* nasty article about Hillary a few months&#039; back.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080303/ehrenreich&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There&#039;s a particularly cruel sentence in there, too&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The frozen smile has to go too, along with the metronymic nodding, which sometimes goes on long enough to suggest a placement within the autism spectrum.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I found this wholly offensive!  

Then again, the whole staff at The Nation has been totally &quot;hoped&quot; and unreadable lately.  It sucks, b/c I used to really enjoy some of their writers.  :(

GDK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really upset with Ehrenreich for posting that BS.  It&#8217;s pure lies&#8211;Sen. Clinton is unabashedly pro-choice and has never blurred the line between private faith and public work.  It&#8217;s one of the reasons I respect her. </p>
<p>Note that Dr. Ehrenreich posted that *other* nasty article about Hillary a few months&#8217; back.  <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080303/ehrenreich" rel="nofollow">There&#8217;s a particularly cruel sentence in there, too</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The frozen smile has to go too, along with the metronymic nodding, which sometimes goes on long enough to suggest a placement within the autism spectrum.</p></blockquote>
<p>I found this wholly offensive!  </p>
<p>Then again, the whole staff at The Nation has been totally &#8220;hoped&#8221; and unreadable lately.  It sucks, b/c I used to really enjoy some of their writers.  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>GDK</p>
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		<title>By: Dr P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary&#039;s Nasty Pastorate
by Barbara Ehrenreich
Posted March 19, 2008 &#124; 01:11 PM (EST) 

There&#039;s a reason why Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama&#039;s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. &lt;strong&gt;When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she&#039;s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.&lt;/strong&gt;You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that &quot;through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the &quot;Fellowship,&quot; aka The Family. &lt;strong&gt;But it won&#039;t be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet&#039;s shocking exposé, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.&lt;/strong&gt;
Sean Hannity has called Obama&#039;s church a &quot;cult,&quot; but that term applies far more aptly to Clinton&#039;s &quot;Family,&quot; which is organized into &quot;cells&quot; -- their term -- and operates sex-segregated group homes for young people in northern Virginia.  In 2002, writer Jeff Sharlet joined the Family&#039;s home for young men, foreswearing sex, drugs, and alcohol, and participating in endless discussions of Jesus and power. He wasn&#039;t undercover; he used his own name and admitted to being a writer. But he wasn&#039;t completely out of danger either. When he went outdoors one night to make a cell phone call, he was followed. He still gets calls from Family associates asking him to meet them in diners -- alone.

The Family&#039;s most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes -- knitting together international networks of rightwing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. &lt;strong&gt;In the 1940s, The Family  reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolph Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs.&lt;/strong&gt; As Sharlet reported in Harper&#039;s in 2003:

During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa&#039;s postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand &quot;Communists&quot; killed marks him as one of the century&#039;s most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general &lt;strong&gt;Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise. &lt;/strong&gt;
At the heart of the Family&#039;s American branch is a collection of powerful rightwing politicos, who include, or have included, &lt;strong&gt;Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James Inhofe, and Rick Santorum. They get to use the Family&#039;s spacious estate on the Potomac, the Cedars,&lt;/strong&gt; which is maintained by young men in Family group homes and where meals are served by the Family&#039;s young women&#039;s group. And, at the Family&#039;s frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already-powerful.

&lt;strong&gt;Clinton fell in with the Family in 1993, &lt;/strong&gt;when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family&#039;s &quot;most elite cell,&quot; &lt;strong&gt;the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia&#039;s notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection for Clinton. She has written of Doug Coe, the Family&#039;s publicity-averse leader, that he is &quot;a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Furthermore, the Family takes credit for some of Clinton&#039;s rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing &quot;religious freedom&quot; in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
What drew Clinton into the sinister heart of the international right? Maybe it was just a phase in her tormented search for identity, marked by ever-changing hairstyles and names: Hillary Rodham, Mrs. Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and now Hillary Clinton. She reached out to many potential spiritual mentors during her White House days, including new age guru Marianne Williamson and the liberal Rabbi Michael Lerner. But it was the Family association that stuck.

Sharlet generously attributes Clinton&#039;s involvement to the underappreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself struggles to define the Family&#039;s theological underpinnings. The Family avoids the word Christian but worship Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the &quot;meek.&quot; They believe that, in mass societies, it&#039;s only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God&#039;s &quot;dominion&quot; on earth. Insofar as the Family has a consistent philosophy, it&#039;s all about power -- cultivating it, building it, and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or &quot;cells.&quot; &quot;We work with power where we can,&quot; Doug Coe has said, and &quot;build new power where we can&#039;t.&quot;

Obama has given a beautiful speech on race and his affiliation with the Trinity Unity Church of Christ. &lt;strong&gt;Now it&#039;s up to Clinton to explain -- or, better yet, renounce -- her longstanding connection with the fascist-leaning Family.&lt;/strong&gt;


FROM LARRY JOHNSON:

THIS IS INSANITY.  HILLARY DOES NOT CALL ANY OF THESE PEOPLE, AUNT OR UNCLE.  HILLARY DOES NOT APPOINT THEM A MEMBER OF HER STEERING COMMITTEE.  HILLLARY DOES NOT ALLOW RACIST ORGANIZATIONS, LIKE THE NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY ON HER CAMPAIGN SITE.  JESUS CHRIST!!  ARE ALL OBAMATRONS THIS THICK HEADED AND THIS INCAPABLE OF REASONING?
 
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H Clinton also promised to bring Jesus back to the Capitol...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary&#8217;s Nasty Pastorate<br />
by Barbara Ehrenreich<br />
Posted March 19, 2008 | 01:11 PM (EST) </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason why Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama&#8217;s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. <strong>When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she&#8217;s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.</strong>You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that &#8220;through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the &#8220;Fellowship,&#8221; aka The Family. <strong>But it won&#8217;t be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet&#8217;s shocking exposé, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.</strong><br />
Sean Hannity has called Obama&#8217;s church a &#8220;cult,&#8221; but that term applies far more aptly to Clinton&#8217;s &#8220;Family,&#8221; which is organized into &#8220;cells&#8221; &#8212; their term &#8212; and operates sex-segregated group homes for young people in northern Virginia.  In 2002, writer Jeff Sharlet joined the Family&#8217;s home for young men, foreswearing sex, drugs, and alcohol, and participating in endless discussions of Jesus and power. He wasn&#8217;t undercover; he used his own name and admitted to being a writer. But he wasn&#8217;t completely out of danger either. When he went outdoors one night to make a cell phone call, he was followed. He still gets calls from Family associates asking him to meet them in diners &#8212; alone.</p>
<p>The Family&#8217;s most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes &#8212; knitting together international networks of rightwing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. <strong>In the 1940s, The Family  reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolph Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs.</strong> As Sharlet reported in Harper&#8217;s in 2003:</p>
<p>During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa&#8217;s postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand &#8220;Communists&#8221; killed marks him as one of the century&#8217;s most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general <strong>Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise. </strong><br />
At the heart of the Family&#8217;s American branch is a collection of powerful rightwing politicos, who include, or have included, <strong>Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James Inhofe, and Rick Santorum. They get to use the Family&#8217;s spacious estate on the Potomac, the Cedars,</strong> which is maintained by young men in Family group homes and where meals are served by the Family&#8217;s young women&#8217;s group. And, at the Family&#8217;s frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already-powerful.</p>
<p><strong>Clinton fell in with the Family in 1993, </strong>when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family&#8217;s &#8220;most elite cell,&#8221; <strong>the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia&#8217;s notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection for Clinton. She has written of Doug Coe, the Family&#8217;s publicity-averse leader, that he is &#8220;a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God</strong>.&#8221;</p>
<p><em><strong>Furthermore, the Family takes credit for some of Clinton&#8217;s rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing &#8220;religious freedom&#8221; in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.</strong></em><br />
What drew Clinton into the sinister heart of the international right? Maybe it was just a phase in her tormented search for identity, marked by ever-changing hairstyles and names: Hillary Rodham, Mrs. Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and now Hillary Clinton. She reached out to many potential spiritual mentors during her White House days, including new age guru Marianne Williamson and the liberal Rabbi Michael Lerner. But it was the Family association that stuck.</p>
<p>Sharlet generously attributes Clinton&#8217;s involvement to the underappreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself struggles to define the Family&#8217;s theological underpinnings. The Family avoids the word Christian but worship Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the &#8220;meek.&#8221; They believe that, in mass societies, it&#8217;s only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God&#8217;s &#8220;dominion&#8221; on earth. Insofar as the Family has a consistent philosophy, it&#8217;s all about power &#8212; cultivating it, building it, and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or &#8220;cells.&#8221; &#8220;We work with power where we can,&#8221; Doug Coe has said, and &#8220;build new power where we can&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama has given a beautiful speech on race and his affiliation with the Trinity Unity Church of Christ. <strong>Now it&#8217;s up to Clinton to explain &#8212; or, better yet, renounce &#8212; her longstanding connection with the fascist-leaning Family.</strong></p>
<p>FROM LARRY JOHNSON:</p>
<p>THIS IS INSANITY.  HILLARY DOES NOT CALL ANY OF THESE PEOPLE, AUNT OR UNCLE.  HILLARY DOES NOT APPOINT THEM A MEMBER OF HER STEERING COMMITTEE.  HILLLARY DOES NOT ALLOW RACIST ORGANIZATIONS, LIKE THE NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY ON HER CAMPAIGN SITE.  JESUS CHRIST!!  ARE ALL OBAMATRONS THIS THICK HEADED AND THIS INCAPABLE OF REASONING?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
H Clinton also promised to bring Jesus back to the Capitol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A sample of Jerome writes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I was disgusted by what Wright said, and didn&#039;t mind saying so. I said that Obama needed to throw Wright under the bus and run him over a few times, to move on from this fiasco. But unfortunately, Obama didn&#039;t, or couldn&#039;t, do it. That&#039;s too bad, and will be costly for his chances. But it&#039;s even worse that, caught up in a presidential contest in which denouncing Wright has been seen only through the prism of supporting Obama, progressives have been silent about Wright&#039;s wrong and divisive words. That&#039;s a terrible precedent to have set.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sample of Jerome writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was disgusted by what Wright said, and didn&#8217;t mind saying so. I said that Obama needed to throw Wright under the bus and run him over a few times, to move on from this fiasco. But unfortunately, Obama didn&#8217;t, or couldn&#8217;t, do it. That&#8217;s too bad, and will be costly for his chances. But it&#8217;s even worse that, caught up in a presidential contest in which denouncing Wright has been seen only through the prism of supporting Obama, progressives have been silent about Wright&#8217;s wrong and divisive words. That&#8217;s a terrible precedent to have set.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;That&lt;/em&gt; Tony?</description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worry it could handicap HRC; especially if the FL and MI debate continues. She would need time to fight for the certification of the popular vote in FL and MI. 
I doubt FL &amp; MI wiull get resolved before June 3rd and she will need time to make the argument &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; she gets her wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worry it could handicap HRC; especially if the FL and MI debate continues. She would need time to fight for the certification of the popular vote in FL and MI.<br />
I doubt FL &amp; MI wiull get resolved before June 3rd and she will need time to make the argument <em>after</em> she gets her wins.</p>
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