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		<title>By: RebelCarol</title>
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		<dc:creator>RebelCarol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the Republicans &lt;strong&gt;need&lt;/strong&gt; to come up with a strong candidate that can defeat BO in 2012, and not another John McCain.  I don&#039;t know who they have at this point in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the Republicans <strong>need</strong> to come up with a strong candidate that can defeat BO in 2012, and not another John McCain.  I don&#8217;t know who they have at this point in time.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/18853/with-2010-and-2012-in-their-sights/#comment-1165529</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a  letter sent to Chairman Edward Liddy, of AIG.  Written by Jake DeSantis. Executive Vice President, of AIG.   Printed in the New York Times under the Opinion page.  This is a must read and gives a whole new perspective on the AIG issue.  The public needs to understand the whole issue.  I hope you will all read it.
 
Lisa
 
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/25/opinion/25desantis.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a  letter sent to Chairman Edward Liddy, of AIG.  Written by Jake DeSantis. Executive Vice President, of AIG.   Printed in the New York Times under the Opinion page.  This is a must read and gives a whole new perspective on the AIG issue.  The public needs to understand the whole issue.  I hope you will all read it.</p>
<p>Lisa</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/25/opinion/25desantis.html?pagewanted=1&#038;_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/25/opinion/25desantis.html?pagewanted=1&#038;_r=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: CentralMass</title>
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		<dc:creator>CentralMass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Term limits courtesy of the American voter. Vote them all put of office. One term and you are out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Term limits courtesy of the American voter. Vote them all put of office. One term and you are out.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/18853/with-2010-and-2012-in-their-sights/#comment-1165120</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our country is not as united as you think; the last time we were this divided they called it the Civil War and we haven&#039;t completely &quot;forgotten&quot; it.  If the predictions of world wide economic collapse are correct it won&#039;t matter which country you are hungry in; although those without dependence on government or companies supplying needs will probably be better able to take care of themselves.  

We will probably be one of them; not because of our unity but because this nation was founded by People with the ability to &quot;think outside the box&quot; or they wouldn&#039;t be here and they are our ancestors.  (I&#039;m sure the street people who have evolved over the last decade can give us all pointers on survival.) We will probably devolve further to the Haves and Have Not class as labeled by GWB during his administration but we have already gotten used to low salaries and a service economy that doesn&#039;t meet the basic needs of food, clothing and shelter.  Oh, and crime goes along with the economic decline so we, too, will have a selection process of sorts.  China has never gotten to the point of taking care of all their citizens, so its economic decline, like ours, will be felt mostly by the Haves of their culture, too.

But, I believe the USA is like the phoenix and democracy will rise from the ashes of what the last two &quot;presidents&quot; selected from those two parties have destroyed. Too much blood has been spilled in those 230 years to just let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our country is not as united as you think; the last time we were this divided they called it the Civil War and we haven&#8217;t completely &#8220;forgotten&#8221; it.  If the predictions of world wide economic collapse are correct it won&#8217;t matter which country you are hungry in; although those without dependence on government or companies supplying needs will probably be better able to take care of themselves.  </p>
<p>We will probably be one of them; not because of our unity but because this nation was founded by People with the ability to &#8220;think outside the box&#8221; or they wouldn&#8217;t be here and they are our ancestors.  (I&#8217;m sure the street people who have evolved over the last decade can give us all pointers on survival.) We will probably devolve further to the Haves and Have Not class as labeled by GWB during his administration but we have already gotten used to low salaries and a service economy that doesn&#8217;t meet the basic needs of food, clothing and shelter.  Oh, and crime goes along with the economic decline so we, too, will have a selection process of sorts.  China has never gotten to the point of taking care of all their citizens, so its economic decline, like ours, will be felt mostly by the Haves of their culture, too.</p>
<p>But, I believe the USA is like the phoenix and democracy will rise from the ashes of what the last two &#8220;presidents&#8221; selected from those two parties have destroyed. Too much blood has been spilled in those 230 years to just let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/18853/with-2010-and-2012-in-their-sights/#comment-1165100</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to say this but it appears that our democratic/republic is being compared to infighting between two greedy factions of a corrupt corporation.

And yet we still hold these truths to be self-evident, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the &lt;em&gt;consent of the Governed&lt;/em&gt; and that Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; such as the whims of a usurper seeking his &quot;historical&quot; niche in Our 230 year history.

&lt;blockquote&gt;“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see.”
                                   Ayn Rand&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say this but it appears that our democratic/republic is being compared to infighting between two greedy factions of a corrupt corporation.</p>
<p>And yet we still hold these truths to be self-evident, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the <em>consent of the Governed</em> and that Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; such as the whims of a usurper seeking his &#8220;historical&#8221; niche in Our 230 year history.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see.”<br />
                                   Ayn Rand</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from TARP and the latest stimulus package, the budget now up for consideration includes more spending than all previous Presidents combined!
Just keep sticking your head in the sand, and delude yourself that there will be no consequences!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from TARP and the latest stimulus package, the budget now up for consideration includes more spending than all previous Presidents combined!<br />
Just keep sticking your head in the sand, and delude yourself that there will be no consequences!</p>
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		<title>By: wodiej</title>
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		<dc:creator>wodiej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>burying our country w trillions of dollars in debt is not going to work. In addition,the majority of Americans simply will not tolerate the types of far left ideas Obama and Pelosi want to implement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>burying our country w trillions of dollars in debt is not going to work. In addition,the majority of Americans simply will not tolerate the types of far left ideas Obama and Pelosi want to implement.</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are all very significant points, I think.  The main threat of China&#039;s dollar holdings isn&#039;t that they&#039;ll use them to wreck our economy, but that they&#039;ll use them to leverage concessions to their advantage.  We&#039;ve given them excessive influence over us, which will be used subtly but effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are all very significant points, I think.  The main threat of China&#8217;s dollar holdings isn&#8217;t that they&#8217;ll use them to wreck our economy, but that they&#8217;ll use them to leverage concessions to their advantage.  We&#8217;ve given them excessive influence over us, which will be used subtly but effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/18853/with-2010-and-2012-in-their-sights/#comment-1165039</link>
		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;They wouldn&#039;t have to fix the mess?&lt;/em&gt;  

You seem to be forgetting that if the Obama plan fails, &lt;em&gt;the mess is still going to be there&lt;/em&gt;.  The republicans would then have to come up with their own workable solution--one that relies upon &lt;em&gt;none&lt;/em&gt; of the approaches that  they&#039;ve so loudly condemned the democrats for.  That would include the deficit spending that they relied upon so extensively during the Reagan and Bush years.      

On the other hand, if by early next year the stimulus plan looks as if it&#039;s beginning to work, the republicans could suddenly find themselves collectively bashing a President who most Americans would see as being on track.  That would be awkward.  

It seems to me that the GOP might be in need of  more effective political strategists.  They played their hand wrong in 2008.  If the RNSC ad is any indication, they may be setting themselves up to do so again in 2010.  Perhaps that&#039;s what it will finally take to move the GOP back toward centrist politics.  They would more effectively compete with the democrats from that position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>They wouldn&#8217;t have to fix the mess?</em>  </p>
<p>You seem to be forgetting that if the Obama plan fails, <em>the mess is still going to be there</em>.  The republicans would then have to come up with their own workable solution&#8211;one that relies upon <em>none</em> of the approaches that  they&#8217;ve so loudly condemned the democrats for.  That would include the deficit spending that they relied upon so extensively during the Reagan and Bush years.      </p>
<p>On the other hand, if by early next year the stimulus plan looks as if it&#8217;s beginning to work, the republicans could suddenly find themselves collectively bashing a President who most Americans would see as being on track.  That would be awkward.  </p>
<p>It seems to me that the GOP might be in need of  more effective political strategists.  They played their hand wrong in 2008.  If the RNSC ad is any indication, they may be setting themselves up to do so again in 2010.  Perhaps that&#8217;s what it will finally take to move the GOP back toward centrist politics.  They would more effectively compete with the democrats from that position.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/18853/with-2010-and-2012-in-their-sights/#comment-1165037</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be the catalyst against these anti-American hypocrites that talk about outsourcing and then buy condoms from China
What a disgrace!

I guess we need a little Protection-ism for this company in Alabama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be the catalyst against these anti-American hypocrites that talk about outsourcing and then buy condoms from China<br />
What a disgrace!</p>
<p>I guess we need a little Protection-ism for this company in Alabama.</p>
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		<title>By: no kidding</title>
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		<dc:creator>no kidding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seattle Moss -- we do throw business China&#039;s way. A small town in Alabama just lost 300 jobs making condoms at 5 cents a piece for the Feds who find they get get the condoms for 2 cents from China.  So much for job creation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seattle Moss &#8212; we do throw business China&#8217;s way. A small town in Alabama just lost 300 jobs making condoms at 5 cents a piece for the Feds who find they get get the condoms for 2 cents from China.  So much for job creation.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is for John Smith.
I have been saying for some time that China is stuck with us and our debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&amp;sid=a6VAJqVQF2FM&amp;refer=patrick.net

&lt;blockquote&gt;“China is a hostage,” said Andy Xie, an independent Shanghai-based analyst who was formerly Morgan Stanley’s chief Asia economist. “China is America’s bank and America basically says there’s nothing you can do to me. If I go down you don’t get paid.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for John Smith.<br />
I have been saying for some time that China is stuck with us and our debt<br />
<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&#038;sid=a6VAJqVQF2FM&#038;refer=patrick.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&#038;sid=a6VAJqVQF2FM&#038;refer=patrick.net</a></p>
<blockquote><p>“China is a hostage,” said Andy Xie, an independent Shanghai-based analyst who was formerly Morgan Stanley’s chief Asia economist. “China is America’s bank and America basically says there’s nothing you can do to me. If I go down you don’t get paid.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my comment from the Krugman story. 

I read a lots of things here saying that China will do this and China will do that and the USA will have to do this and that. But what everybody is forgetting that China holds Close to 2 Trillion dollars in treasuries and they are stuck. They can&#039;t dump them because if they start selling them they will be come worthless before they can get rid of even a small fraction of them. If they stop buying them then they will be in the same situation. 

Also China has a much bigger problem then the US treasuries. They have 100s of millions of people out of work. Their crop production has been greatly affected by climate change and poor management of their resources. Also China is not of one people as many believe. There are hundreds if not thousands of tribes in china with distinct languages and customs. When you put all this together what more likely to happen is that China will breakup once the financial system collapses. 

The USA might go through a rough time but we are more united then the rest of the world could ever imagine. After all we only have two parties that should tell a lot by it self. 

There is really only one lesson that everybody should take away from all this. If things get tough here (USA) you don&#039;t want to live anywhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my comment from the Krugman story. </p>
<p>I read a lots of things here saying that China will do this and China will do that and the USA will have to do this and that. But what everybody is forgetting that China holds Close to 2 Trillion dollars in treasuries and they are stuck. They can&#8217;t dump them because if they start selling them they will be come worthless before they can get rid of even a small fraction of them. If they stop buying them then they will be in the same situation. </p>
<p>Also China has a much bigger problem then the US treasuries. They have 100s of millions of people out of work. Their crop production has been greatly affected by climate change and poor management of their resources. Also China is not of one people as many believe. There are hundreds if not thousands of tribes in china with distinct languages and customs. When you put all this together what more likely to happen is that China will breakup once the financial system collapses. </p>
<p>The USA might go through a rough time but we are more united then the rest of the world could ever imagine. After all we only have two parties that should tell a lot by it self. </p>
<p>There is really only one lesson that everybody should take away from all this. If things get tough here (USA) you don&#8217;t want to live anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I pulled my Krugman story for tomorrow morning, not realizing it had already gone up.  Oh well.  It&#039;ll be back soon enough!  Nitey nite :):)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I pulled my Krugman story for tomorrow morning, not realizing it had already gone up.  Oh well.  It&#8217;ll be back soon enough!  Nitey nite <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :)</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no guaranty that the GOP will win.
The Marxist&#039;s have figured how to win and consolidate power.
Amnesty and benefits for illegals
Control and manipulation of the census
Gerrymandering of the districts.
Development of permanent underclass dependent on the state.
Continued class warfare using Saul Alinsky tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no guaranty that the GOP will win.<br />
The Marxist&#8217;s have figured how to win and consolidate power.<br />
Amnesty and benefits for illegals<br />
Control and manipulation of the census<br />
Gerrymandering of the districts.<br />
Development of permanent underclass dependent on the state.<br />
Continued class warfare using Saul Alinsky tactics.</p>
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