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DID WALL STREET FLIP OFF TREASURY TODAY??!!

The U.S. Treasury was heavily involved in the bond market today. How did they do? They bought high and sold low. What happened?

Treasury announced last week that they would engage in buying hundreds of billions of government and mortgage securities in an attempt to move interest rates lower and spark consumer and corporate borrowing. Today, Treasury made their initial purchase under this program at mid-morning. Thanks to MB, I learned that Wall Street offered Treasury three times more bonds than Treasury actually purchased. I gather that Treasury wanted to be extremely patient and diligent in their purchases. In any event, at mid-morning the U.S. Treasury would have bought bonds near the market highs of the day.

Later in the day, Treasury issued multiple billions in 5yr notes. How did they do with this sale? Not very well. Wall Street backed up their bids an almost unheard of 5 basis points (.05%) to fully underwrite these bonds. What happened?

In talking with a few friends (thank you, gentlemen), speculation is that Wall Street backed their bids up by 5 basis points (total cost to Treasury of a not insignificant $78 million) for three reasons:

1. Concern that Treasury did not buy more bonds in the morning;

2. Concern over a failed 40 year U.K government bond auction. This failed auction highlights the overwhelming supply coming to market across global government markets, as well as the fiscal problems in the United Kingdom. (please see my earlier post/video clip today: Daniel Hannan Skewers Gordon Brown.)

3. Strong speculation that Wall Street was sending a clear signal to Treasury in response to proposed legislation taxing Wall Street executives at rates of 70% to 90%. Message delivered being that Washington needs Wall Street just as Wall Street may need Washington.

Don’t think that a situation like that could not happen. There is always pre-auction talk about potential strength or weakness of upcoming auctions. If word was getting around that an auction was expected to tail (go poorly), it often can become a self-fulfilling prophecy without it being a coordinated conspiracy.

LD

  • http://dakiniland.wordpress.com Dakinikat

    the Wall Street Put?

  • athena

    So would you say the last few days have been a Bear rally? Any thoughts? Anyone?

  • http://dakiniland.wordpress.com Dakinikat

    yup, bear rally, sucker rally, dead cat bounce …

  • I’m a Linda too

    It does seem so LD.

  • elise

    I’m really struggling to understand this, Mr Doyle. The US Treasury bought government and mortgage securities around noon today? Are these the toxic assets? Then they sold bonds ( or tried to sell ) back to Wall Street investors at a lower price than the purchase? Now the next part: How is this supposed to lower the interest rate for banks and who will they borrow from? And how will lower interest rates stimulate private borrowing? The prime rate is low already, is it not? And I heard mortgage rates are below 5%. Are these rates going to be applied to loans for refinance on foreclosures or new loans or both? What is the interest rate on the bonds being auctioned and are they available only for large investors? I know my limits on understanding the economy, but this just sounds like the wheel going round and round and if the money is still just circulating from the treasury to investors to the treasury, how is that going to help the rest of us? Are any foreign investors or governments making bids? I noticed the price of oil is going up again and it is going to be demoralizing if gas prices start going up again. I don’t know about the rest of the country, but food prices are rising again here in Colorado. Maybe we get hit more because of transportation costs, but I know what I’m talking about when it comes to grocery stores so are we looking at inflation? We went shopping this past weekend and there were some bare shelves and the last time we saw that, the prices went up even more. Sorry for all the questions. Thanks.

  • mountainaires

    That’s what I thought, too, but I’m glad to hear your thoughts on this Dakinikat.

    Thanks for addressing this LD. It seems that there is no step but a misstep with this crew of chaos.

  • http://www.senseoncents.com LD

    Elise…

    You are not incorrect in that it is very much like a circle. Government bonds and govt sponsored mortgage backed securities are circulating from one entity within the govt (TSY) to the Fed (I incorrectly wrote that it was the TSY both buying and selling. The TSY was selling, the Fed was buying). The goal is to drive interest rates down (I’m pessimistic) on these bonds in hopes it revives consumer and corporate borrowing. (we need demand from these areas to increase…right now as these groups are delevering, paying down debt, demand is anemic).

    These bonds being purchased are not toxic assets.

    Foreigners can buy but have been purchasing less lately.

    Oil is moving up because inflation is expected to increase down the road.

  • Sassy

    Elise, I understand what you are saying.
    We are already seeing inflation in grocery prices as well…40% on small items.
    Like you, I don’t understand all the ends and outs of finance, but I’m leery of the actions taken at this time.
    I have stated before that housing will be pushed up astronomically again, so round and round we go!

  • elise

    I guess I’m still a little lost. Which interest rate? Is this what is paid to investors for buying the bonds or what is charged for borrowing? It sounds a lot like what happened in the private sector when the stimulus checks were sent out. People used the checks to pay off debts and actual buying/spending didn’t happen.

  • PamFlorida

    My knowledge of economics is at the micro level – ergo, my own personal economy. However, I do understand borrowing, spending and repaying debt.
    The BO Corp, Congress, and the Fed have borrowed, loaned, spent, and printed money at warp speed in the last 6 mo., and particularly since the inauguration. The funds are going in a circle, bypassing the private sector and small businesses who create jobs.
    They have put too much money into a non-producing system and I believe inflation is rearing it’s ugly head. Look for prices and interet rates to go up soon. I’m skeptical of the recent market gains and don’t believe they are sustainable. April will be telling.
    “Some days you eat the bear, and some days the bear eats you”.

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