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The Hillary Videos We Played During Our Chat

By SusanUnPC on March 26, 2009 at 11:15 PM in Hillary Clinton

These are some of the videos we played during tonight’s live chat, “Hillary Supporters: What Did You Go Through and Where Do You Go From Here?” I begin with a brand-new video by the great BoyThreeOne:

Then there was Hillary doing her job, always doing her job, today in Mexico, via an Australian TV news station … along with MY THEORY about why this “crisis” has seized Americans’ attention:

YES, this is a true crisis. But why, all of a sudden are we fixated on it while we have ignored it for a long time? I suspect because it’s the perfect issue to capture the attention of the rightwing — the only group they hate as much as Al Qaeda are illegal brown immigrants and they dwell upon every crime that brown “illegals” might commit. And, sure enough, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the rest are obliging Mr. Obama, who is pleased because it takes the rightwing’s attention OFF his economic plan, his catastrophic $1 trillion “Toxic Assets” plan, and more.

It’s his favorite ploy: His magician’s “sleight of hand” trick to divert attention from what he doesn’t want the right focusing on: His missteps and his seizure of vast amounts of taxpayer monies. My two cents.

Oh yes. Now we go on with the videos — these historic videos:

In New Hampshire:

In New Hampshire, Again, Smiles All ‘Round

In Fistacuffs with Barack


MORE IN NEXT POST.

  • MBC

    If more of us though could have sucked it up and voted McCain, we wouldn’t be in this mess. We should all plan to suck it up in 2010 and vote in some moderate Republicans or we are in for a very, very rough ride.

  • John Smith

    Hillary sold out the country by getting on the bus with BO. It is really that simple. I lost all respect for her when she did that. I would never vote for her again.

    • http://www.marklevinshow.com/ Seattle Moss

      John,
      Hillary is an American patriot and does her duty for this country when asked to serve. I have often said that we are safer as a result of Hillary being at SOS as she understands the existential threats facing this country.

      I’m proud of Hillary and know that her experience on the world stage prepares her to lead this country in the near future.

      • Woman Voter

        I would have a full head of gray hair if Hillary wasn’t in a position to offer her opinion. Trust is a big factor in economic growth and sustainability, and Obama has not garnered that trust factor yet. I am also am concerned with the continued WAR escalation in Afghanistan and the continuation of the back door draft to sustain the current policy. When will our troops come home?

        • http://www.marklevinshow.com/ Seattle Moss

          When will our troops come home?

          The troops won’t be coming home anytime soon. With unemployment rising and the lack of jobs with the potential for civil strife those troops will stay over there as part of a giant WPA works program.

      • John Smith

        SOS is as usefully at this moment as an electrician when you need a plumber. The fate of this country will not be decided with her running around the world. It will be decided what we do here at home. We have to put our own house in order before we can do anything meaningful on the international stage. We have to address energy independence, mass transportation, health care reform, generational theft just to mention a few.

        • I’mFedUp

          You are right about that, John, and it’s our domestic problems that Obama is causing now that will sink us immediately. And, I think it’s going to be policy of mine to hold all politicians up to the same standards. No one gets a free ride because of party, etc. We make fun of the Obots because they blindly worship Obama. I think the Hillary worship is the same thing. Bush, Obama, etc. are all being trashed and rightfully so. I can’t let another politician make the same kind of massive mistake and excuse it. Yes, watching HRC speak makes me sad for what happened and that we were deprived of her intelligence in the White House. But I fear that she will never be able to deliver what her followers are hoping for because it’s Obama’s administration and we know how that goes.

          • http://www.marklevinshow.com/ Seattle Moss

            watching HRC speak makes me sad for what happened and that we were deprived of her intelligence in the White House.

            Hillary is in the white house!

            Nobody can tell me that she will not be making a difference when the crap hits the fan in a few months

        • Ani

          Point taken — and since the backtstabbers in her own party were minimizing her role in the Senate — what good do you think she would be able to do there? As SoS, she is negotiating and working to influence global economic issues as well as restoring our credibility. Please stop beating up on Hillary for trying to serve her country. No matter what happens she is certainly more powerful being on the inside than being an outcast.

          There is a bigger picture here and no matter how painful it is, it is better to have her close by than have her pouting and just picking up her marbles and going home. We need some adults in positions of authority, lord knows. Her lone voice in the Senate would no be able to stop the loonies from doing what they are doing.

          • John Smith

            She was partly responsible for getting BO elected. There is no way anyone can talk that away. So she is partly responsible for everything that is happening. Being SOS was a good way not to have to deal with the domestic problems.

            • tillthen

              Imagine what an icon and national hero she would be today, had she placed country before party. It is difficult stifling my contempt for her. I was one who was pulling for her and could have been OK with her as POTUS. Never again.

              • I’mFedUp

                tillthen…Can you IMAGINE what this country would be like, and how different our lives would be, if she would have “placed country over party?” Everyone hung on her very word. She could have signaled to the DNC that they couldn’t get away with their crap, and let America in on the joke. What a hero she would have been. Historical woman who changed the course of the world.

        • elise

          What a narrow point of view John. The world is small and no nation is “an island unto itself”. Every challenge in economics through our relationships with other countries as allies and adversaries are addressed by the State Dept. Hillary will be the first representative of the US in many places covering many issues. If/when Bo has to tackle these issues Hillary will be there fist preparing the way. And who do you think could replace her? She may never receive the credit she deserves from the White House or media, but she will be there working her heart out for the country she loves. She is an amazing woman who has dedicated her life to public service and she has enormous power. The fact that so many blogs have spent so much time writing about her is the proof.

          • felizarte

            I agree, elise. with all the points you raised. It is just as well that Hillary is laying the groundwork for subsequent state visits with Obama. Those leaders who had the opportunity to speak with her prior to their meetings with Obama cannot help but note the difference between the way she discussed various issues and with Obama. At the rate she is going, before two years are over, she would have made more than a hundred foreign visits. By then the Obama team can no longer stand her positive standing in the opinion polls and they will begin undermining her (if they have not already) and she would have no choice but to leave. Then get a huge advance to write another couple of books and/or prepare to run.

          • John Smith

            What good will all her work as SOS be if BO manages to destroy our economy. Do you really think anybody will care what we have to say or what they agreed to if we don’t have the economical power anymore.

    • politicalidentitycrisis

      I have to admit, John Smith, I generally roll my eyes at your comments. I do still respect Hillary, but I am baffled watching her and Bill sit back and watch our country go down the toilet. I cannot believe that the Clinton power and connections can’t do something! There must be a VERY powerful person/group behind Obama for them to allow this and not put country first.

      • I’mFedUp

        I don’t think it’s fair to demand that we support Hillary. I did that already and it cost me a lot of money, time, and heartache to watch her then turn on us and go work for the Fraud. Yes, she is qualified, talented, etc. But she owed it to America, and so did Bill, to expose what they know about Obama and save this country from the media screwing us and conning innocent people into voting for the jerk. They knew better and sold us out. Please let’s don’t attack each other over this. For some of us it makes no sense to whine about the caucus fraud, the theft of the nomination, the fact that Obama is dangerous, and has some very scary secrets that the Clintons know for a fact to be true, and they let him slide. I’m sorry, country first, party SECOND. Period.

        • http://www.marklevinshow.com/ Seattle Moss

          he fact that Obama is dangerous, and has some very scary secrets that the Clintons know for a fact to be true, and they let him slide

          Every time the Clinton’s opened their mouths they were called racist.

          and every time the rest of us opened our mouths we also were called racist

      • elise

        politicalidentitycrisis, I think you must be leading an enviable life which has allowed you to see the world in simple terms. This has been a coup de etat’ within the party, but that doesn’t mean they have been completely stripped of their power. From the ashes of the Phoenix they will rise, but when a group of people are trying to destroy you, you hold your head up and bide your time. Patience is required.

        • politicalidentitycrisis

          I’m just surprised by the Clintons, that’s all. I believe they do have dirt to blow BHO out of the water. How far will they let things drop before they use it? They are a powerful couple, they have connections. There’s not a doubt in my mind that they could get something “outed” and be able to never be connected to it. I just thought that both Clintons would be country before party people, too! It is causing cognitive dissonance in this brain and I have difficulty rationalizing it.

    • WhatNow

      John,
      Would you rather have one of B0′s cronies in the SOS position, who isn’t qualified? I am also upset that the Clinton’s didn’t slamblast 0 but, I rather have her in the administration showing the world that we have at least 1 sane person in the administration.

      I’m also surprised that Bill is very much in the background during our troubled times. Hmmmm

      • Ani

        You are all forgetting the media firestorm and the racist diatribes leveled at anyone who did not support “The One” — nothing they said would have made any difference. These boobs were in a fever to elect Obama. There was enough information out there on him that would have sunk any other politician. There was nothing left to expose – it was all on the table — Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Khalidi, ACORN, all his egregious flip flops — the media and the DNC all chimed in with “nothing to see here folks” — please don’t tell me you have forgotten this already. It was actually reported and none of it grew any legs — deliberately.

        The Clintons were excoriated and painted unfairly as racists. What do you want from them? Blood? Nobody else stood up to do or say anything.

        She worked and fought harder than I have seen anybody fight. Give the lady a break. The writing was on the wall.

    • mira

      John, it looks like Hillary sold out. However, since the election days I’ve been thinking the unthinkable about politics and doing some research.

      What if Hillary was in on the Democrats plan? She sold herself very well to 18 million and then stood with Obama and he won the election. Maybe that was the plan all along, create tension, publicity, excitement, drama, a reality tv spectacle in real life.

      I came across this thought provoking documentary film recently that might be of interest.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

  • politicalidentitycrisis

    I did enjoy watching Hillary mock Obama here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pPV1yd7sQg

    • Wisewoman

      politicalidentitycrisis . “I did enjoy watching Hillary mock Obama here”. As I did when I first saw this video, I thought these were words that Hillary actually made up mocking Obama. The truth is that these were almost identical words spoken by Obama to a crowd of his supporters. The MSM did not show Hillary’s comments concerning these words that preceeded her mocking retort. This left the impression that Hillary’s was using her own words to mock Obama. These are the kinds of things that the Clintons faced. If Hillary had dared to say such a thing about herself the MSM would have excoriated her. As as AA female Hillary supporter, white America still don’t seem to understand what happened in this election. Obama “won” because of the following
      1. He cheated, especially in the caucaus.
      2. He accused the Clintons of racism at an opportune time. The charge was believed by AA, they became angry with the Clintons and it deprived her of her AA support at a crucial time (65% in SC before the racial charges).
      3. Far-left Democrats hatred of the Clintons.
      4. Repub hatred of Bill and Hillary. They thought if they could get her out of the race, Obama would be easier to beat.
      5. The money people backed Obama more so than Hillary or John McCain because they knew he would do their bidding.
      6. He had no character or decency and was an accomplished liar. Although he falsely accused Hillary he was actually the one who would say or do anything to win.

  • I’mFedUp

    By the way, in her trip to the War Zone of Mexico…Hillary just said that “it’s America’s fault” that the drug cartels are waging war on that country. Really? Yet again, America sucks? How about those of us who think that the National Guard should be at the border, and don’t really appreciate the left for wanting to let them all in here, give them our jobs, our money, welfare, education, health care, etc. just so Nancy and her flying pigs can get votes? It’s “America’s fault?” No, blame the loony left.

    • John Smith

      I myself have no problem with immigration. What I have a problem with is people coming to this country not to become part of the USA but to have their own mini country and then expect the rest of us adjust to them instead of the the other way around. That is why I thought it was so distasteful when they were waving the Mexican flag during the pro immigration marches.

      • I’mFedUp

        I have a huge problem with immigration. We can’t feed our own, support our own, and the loons want to open the borders and welcome in more of a burden. For no reason other than to court the Hispanic vote. Yet more backwards thinking by those nuts. I just saw that the UK I think is proposing “population control” for the same reason. You can’t take a broke country, bankrupt coffers, and then just add more burden to it. On our backs. I’m not paying for those people. Period.

        • John Smith

          Right type of immigration is very healthy. If you let people in who want to work and will do what it takes to make it. Then you will increase the competitiveness of the country. What the real problem is that our existing immigration laws are not being enforced. If they would be enforced we would not have this conversation.

          • I’mFedUp

            We can’t have any laws that are effective because of the open borders. Period. If someone is a good, decent, law abiding person then they don’t sneak into a country illegally, work illegally without paying taxes, and send our money back to Mexico, violating our laws. Janet Napalitano is a joke and she will never help with the situation IMO because Arizona is having its own war. It also wouldn’t hurt for the people on welfare here to take the jobs the illegals do. You know, legal people doing legal jobs and getting off the dole. This system is so broken it’s no wonder we’re a mess.

            • John Smith

              Actually my brother said the same thing about making sure that employment that goes to foreign workers would first be given to the people who are on welfare. But until people wake up that both parties are handing out koolaid with the only difference being the color nothing will change.

              The only positive thing that I can see about what will happen here is that perhaps when things get really bad people will finally start paying attention what is going on around them and perhaps start thinking for them self.

    • felizarte

      Hillary did not say it is America’s fault; she said that America must share the responsibility because of the country’s “insatiable” demand for the illegal drugs.” That is quite different than laying all the blame on America. She was stating a fact which is only fair if the two countries are to work together to solve the problems that affect both countries.

    • Peggy Sue

      Excuse me, what Hillary Clinton said is that we share responsibility for the drug wars going on at our border. The market for Mexican drugs is here, in the US. The guns trafficked across the border are here, in the US. She wasn’t blaming the United States, she was stating the facts: we “share” responsibility and therefore must share the burden of cleaning the mess up with Mexican authorites.

      Get the wax out of your ears!

      • I’mFedUp

        PeggySue then it’s really simple. Close the borders, which is what most responsible Americans want to do. Period. But she’s part of the party that doesn’t want to close the borders. Really easy for her, blame Americans for buying the drugs but support amnesty, free rides and welfare for illegals, and let’s open the borders and let them all in. If you guys could open your eyes and stop the hero worship you could look objectively at the problems we face. It’s never going to get better if not.

        • Peggy Sue

          I don’t worship anyone, I’mFedUp. And please, spare me the condescending “you guys.”

          As far as immigration policy, what exactly did Bush do to improve our border security? Oh, that’s right. Not much.

          The problem right now is the problem at hand: increased violence and a wave of drugs and guns washing over our borders.

          But please, let’s blame Hillary Clinton. Next thing, she’ll be accused of gun running.

          Btw, I’m an equal opportunity blamer: both parties deserve our scorn in this matter. And yes, we need a border and immigration policy.

          But it never fails, HRC becomes a lightening rod for everyone’s complaint.

          • I’mFedUp

            PeggySue, you really need to stop misinterpreting posts. You keep saying we are all “blaming Hillary for everything.” Where on earth do any of our posts say that? The left always blames AMERICA for everything. We are such self loathing people. We are continually apologetic for being successful, powerful, etc. Well, good thing we are no longer any of that.

            But my POINT was how on earth does someone blame AMERICA for the drugs getting here when we won’t close the borders? And, I will agree with you on one thing…Bush could have sent the National Guard (well he did send 2500, but he could have sent more) to the borders. And, then what? Be accused of being a racist, piss off the left who WANT to bankrupt our country with that huge burden? No matter what conversation we have here, it goes back to Bush. He’s long gone, but it’s still about him.

            The bottom line is this…what will happen to our borders now? And it still makes no sense to blame America, particularly when the person lobbing the blame on this pitiful country is a member of the party who wants to KEEP THE BORDERS OPEN? Do you not get how WTF? that is?

            • I’mFedUp

              By the way…this is OT…But WTF is this all about? Oh my god…if this is true then what in the world is happening to us? Someone look at this and tell me what this means please????

              http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/show/998369

              Basically it is stating that towards August/September the entire American banking system is going to be shut down, and we will get “vouchers” for everything from food, gas, etc. That they are going to federalize hospitals, the police, etc. There will be checkpoints everywhere, etc. All of this to do with FEMA. Didn’t we already say that there are going to be Fema Camps everywhere? This is the spookiest thing yet. When does the bizarre stuff stop????

    • Wisewoman

      I’mFedUp. Your comments. “By the way, in her trip to the War Zone of Mexico…Hillary just said that “it’s America’s fault” that the drug cartels are waging war on that country. Really?” That is an extreme exaggeration of the gist of Hillary’s comments regarding the violence in Mexico. I saw Bill Oreilly and Hannity say the same thing. Taking words out of context and as usual beating up on Hillary. Republicans need to realize that there might be 10% of the approximately 25% Puma who admire Hillary who might be persuaded to vote for the “right” Repub candidate. We will never vote for any Repub who trashes Hillary or if those two talking heads Repubs keep trashing her as well. That is what I most liked about McCain and Palin they did not trash Hillary and neither did she trash them. She has too much integrity.
      As are many here, I am not happy with Hillary in this administration either because I do not think the @$$4!&** will allow her to do the job.

  • kinthenorthwest

    Im srry but Im one of those that feel that Hillary not only betrayed her supporters but her country when she let the DNC throw her under the bus.
    Hillary will never have another chance to run due to her age and what Obama is doing to the Democrat’s name.
    By the time the 2012 comes around everyone will be running so far away from the DNC it wont even be funny. (That is if there is enough of American left after the Democrats and Obama get done with it by 2012).
    I still believe that the first sign of anything screwy with the SOS people Hillary will be thrown under the bus by Obama. Then that will be the end of Hillary’s political career.

    • Ani

      Who did SHE betray exactly? She LET them throw her under the bus? What would you have liked her to do? Her own NY delegation betrayed her and was moving against her and said they would not support her at the convention. — this was a fix from way on high and there is not a damn thing she could have done about it. She betrayed no one. I can’t imagine any other politician having the courage that she had in the face of what she endured from the media, Obama and her own party.

      Please do not tell me memories are that short. Review the record here. I remember this very well and she was boxed in.

      • http://www.marklevinshow.com/ Seattle Moss

        She betrayed no one. I can’t imagine any other politician having the courage that she had in the face of what she endured from the media, Obama and her own party.

        Thank You Ani!

        I will never forget and I took the names of those who betrayed Hillary and us….

      • CG

        Absolutely correct Ani. Thank you.

        • Peggy Sue

          It’s amazing how Hillary Clinton can be blamed for “everything.” Are people blaming McCain for losing the election? How about blaming the Republicans for not supporting their own candidate.

          The only thing we have going for us right now is a competent team in the State Department. Start directing your anger at the right target: the ugly political machine that’s been putting frontmen into the WH. We had 8 long, long years of Bush and Cheney and now we have the Dems version: 0bama and his motley crew.

          Hillary Clinton is not a saint. But she’s one of the hardest working and devoted public servants on the scene right now.

          Get a grip!

          • I’mFedUp

            No, PeggySue, we don’t blame Hillary for “everything.” That’s a tad theatrical. No one here said she didn’t work hard, and that she wasn’t intelligent. That’s a tad theatrical as well. I don’t worship her and never will. I know exactly what happened and I don’t respect her for it. That’s my right. And I can defend it with logical, sensible reasons which other posters here have done. The Hillary button was an emotional one for me too, when it was me spending the money, time and effort to expose what was done to her. Now I look at her as a politician. No more, no less. She’s a better one than the rest of them, granted. But she chose her career over my country. That’s my opinion and it will never change. Nowhere in my comment have I said she isn’t capable, and I know she would have been a great President. But watching her actually CAMPAIGN for Obama is the equivalent of treason for me and I will never forgive it. She could have stayed home.

            • I’mFedUp

              And by the way, everyone here ridicules those who supported Obama, the Donna Braziles of the world who led the charge, etc. We all make fun of the Bots and the crazy campaign stuff. Hillary was the biggest reason, her relentless campaigning for Obama, that many people who would have voted for McCain switched back to the left. Remember ladies? Many PUMAs who swore they would never vote for Obama did so after HILLARY TOLD THEM TO. So give me a break on what a patriot she is. She knew he was toxic to this country and she pushed HER voters to vote for HIM. That’s like pushing your friend to drink arsenic.

              • Peggy Sue

                Well, again I say: where were the Republicans when John McCain needed their support? And btw, many PUMAS [4+ million] held their nose and voted for the Republicans in November because they saw a leader in John McCain and an empty suit in the alternative.

                So, look to the Republican Party as well when casting the blame around.

                Or is that too theatrical??

                • I’mFedUp

                  Peggy Sue, there’s blame enough to go around. I am just holding everyone to the same standards. The Republicans made huge mistakes, and they also had information on Obama they could have used and chose not to. My personal belief is that they were happy to hand this crap sandwich to Obama, who was clearly always going to fail. I am really not about the party thing, although I did register Republican this year and will never go back. No one involved in this mess ended up acting in the best interest of our country, however they did it. Because the best interest of this country would have been anyone, from my 80 year old mother, to my dog, being President before Obama. And that means McCain, Hillary, even Ron Paul. Jeez.

            • Seattle Moss

              But she chose her career over my country. That’s my opinion and it will never change.

              Hillary chose country over career. There was considerable risk in her taking the SOS position and leaving her senate job which was very secure.

              • I’mFedUp

                Seattle Moss, you know I love your posts and enjoy you very much. Taking the SOS job was as much for HER career as anything. Her senate job was a dead-ender and of course this was a more high profile job for her. Let’s not forget the three day long “back room dirty deal” in Denver in which Hillary agreed to stage the phony “step down” in exchange for….What? Hmmmm…..I am respecting what you all feel for Hillary, please respect the rest of us who don’t agree and never will.

                • Seattle Moss

                  I appreciate your comments also but what you need to understand is that the Clinton’s are held to a different standard than other politicians. Conspiracies are the rule for those that disagree with them.
                  They are the strongest political couple in history and despite the attempts to destroy them have always successfully stayed on top.
                  I can just see how the media would have responded if Hillary had not been the team player.

                  The republicans are out of power in part because of their disgusting behavior in the 90′s where they spent $30 million trying anyway possible to destroy the president with witch hunts and then by entrapping Bill with the Lewinsky stawking.
                  Bill Clinton’s personal life was nobodies business and the republicans have found out the hard way that Americans view the whole impeachment fiasco as unAmerican and purely partisan.

                  As for lying to Ken Starr…if was in the same position I would have told that sorry fu*k to shove it up his a**

                  Look who’s careers have been destroyed going against the peoples wishes
                  Bob Livingston
                  Newt Gingrich
                  Linda Tripp
                  Ken Starr
                  All of them are losers for their betrayal of the American people and are class1 hypocrites.

                  Have a nice day!

              • Peggy Sue

                Seattle said:

                “Hillary chose country over career. There was considerable risk in her taking the SOS position and leaving her senate job which was very secure.”

                Yes, she did choose country and political risk. Staying in the Senate would have been a far safer decision. But she has and continues to be everyone’s favorite scapegoat. Hillary-hate is a national past-time. Either way she jumped the blame would have been heaped on.

                It’s sad when we can’t distinguish our competent and loyal public servants from the truly bad ones. We’re reaping what we’ve sowed.

                • I’mFedUp

                  For the LAST TIME to both of you…No one has said she isn’t good at her job, competent, etc. NO ONE. Stop it. We just don’t have the same feelings you do, and believe me I suffered a lot over her campaigning for Obama. It caused me a tremendous amount of heartache and I believe you are wrong about the motivations.

                  As for Bill Clinton’s personal life. Who cares about a blow job is right? But, breaking the law is breaking the law. What the problem is here, and you don’t see it, is that you have created your very own set of rules and standards for the Clintons. If Bush, Obama, etc. do any of this stuff, they get blasted. My whole point, that clearly no one listens to, is that I hold them all accountable and I will not let them slide for any reason whatsoever. In other words, Clinton does not equal HALL PASS.

                  • Seattle Moss

                    I guess in your world we should investigate Bush and Cheney for lying about the Iraq war.
                    I don’t want them investigated because it will cause national suicide.

                    However,
                    When Clinton lied…Nobody died!

                    • I’mFedUp

                      I think that we should then investigate anyone who also voted for the war, including Clinton. See, it works both ways. As for Bush and Cheney, why do they immediately come up in a conversation about the Clintons? Did they all get married and I missed the event? No one gave Bush and Cheney a free ride. In fact they still get blamed for Freddie and Fannie and all of the economic destruction by Nancy Pelosi’s disaster of a Congress that is really why we are in the mortgage crisis. So, why doesn’t everyone just blame everyone for who and what they are, what they really did, and stop this nonsense:

                      Republicans = Bad
                      Clintons = Good

                      Everyone had a part in this mess. Everyone.

            • Dreaming

              Well said I’mFedUp.
              For all the people that think Hillary will run in 2012; your dreaming if you think she has a chance of running and then winning.
              Obama would have to be out of the picture for Hillary to run or the Dems would have to be totallly ticked at Obama. Remember Hillary doesnt go against the DNC. If the Dems do get very ticked at Obama, then who would vote for Hillary as a Democrat.

              • Seattle Moss

                If the Dems do get very ticked at Obama, then who would vote for Hillary as a Democrat.

                If that is the case then NO democrat would win

                • Dreaming

                  That sounds about right Seattle.
                  I bet 2010 will be an interesting election with lots of turnovers.

      • candymarl

        Right on Ani! Hillary never claimed to be perfect. She never claimed to be the be-all and end-all to every problem on the planet. Obama did. Hillary outlined good solid programs to get the economy back on track. She has a real grasp of both domestic and international politics.

        I remember the media, after Hillary was appointed SOS, asking her about the economy. They asked her the tough questions but not Obama the POTUS they adored.

        Now they’re asking the questions and realizing, even the progressive/liberal economists, that Obama doesn’t have the answers. Well too damn bad.

  • CG

    I believe Hillary is earning great respect from the leaders around the world, in fact I believe she has credibility internationally that Obama does not. I am glad she is representing America, and I am glad she is being honest rather than revise the inconvenient facts, because yes Americans are buying the drugs and selling guns and ammunitions to the drug cartels, and it is fair to acknowledge it in order to get to a place where these issues can be addressed and resolved. Hillary equally put responsibility for the violence upon Mexico. Aren’t we all sick of lying hypocrites who deny there is a problem, it couldn’t be us, it has to be them? If America isn’t honest then who will listen to us; we will have no coalitions. There is great risk for Hillary because right now Obama looks weak, like a naive buffoon when it comes to international diplomacy. You have to wonder if Hillary’s foreign counterparts are asking, what is wrong with the American people that they allowed a person with so little experience to be the president?

    Hillary is our real hope, and if you look around at all the politicians I do not see anyone that is as competent and hardworking or capable to be the commander in chief and president. Hillary is working hard on behalf of each and every American. It is good for America that she accepted the Secretary of State position, to improve our relations abroad because she is an excellent ambassador. Domestically everything is mired in disfunction and disarray under the leadership of Obama, Pelosi and Reid, and muddied by corrupting campaign donations. I pray Obama, Pelosi and Reid will follow Hillary’s work ethic and acknowledge their errors so we can honestly address the issues and really get down to resolving our nation’s problems.

    I thought Obama was grooming Susan Rice for the position of Secretary of State and that he would look for an opportunity to dismiss Hillary. If he did that I believe that would be yet another “boneheaded” action to add to the growing list of “boneheaded” things Obama has done. Susan Rice is not quite ready for the responsibility in my opinion upon recent observation. Who do you guys think would make a good Secretary of State if it weren’t Hillary?

    • politicalidentitycrisis

      I do give Hillary kudos in that if she is planning to run in 2012, she has not done away with the main arguement against her, which was, being first lady doesn’t give you foreign policy experience. Well, I knew that was untrue, but now, good for Hillary! She has removed that entire line of argument.

      Please don’t get me wrong from the comments above. I support Hillary and if she runs for POTUS in 2012, she absolutely gets my vote.

  • arran

    You’re right, Ani. No one would have listened to the Clintons. No one was reading the information out there on Obama. It was a frenzy of a time like I’ve never seen before to win the election and who cares whether or not the winner has the experience and judgment to lead this country. It was an American Idol moment and still is for some. The ice is melting, however.

  • Tricia Spiegel

    That first video is so wonderful! This guy knows who a lot of us are (and he is very talented).