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Obama Team Flubbing Afghanistan

I had hoped that the Obama team, with input from the likes of General Jim Jones and Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, would forge a sane policy in Afghanistan. Let’s be clear about one thing–the Bush Administration failed completely in Afghanistan. The mere fact that we are getting in deeper almost 8 years after 9-11 is prima facie evidence that the Bush policy was, at best, asleep at the switch.

What is striking about today’s announcement of a “new” policy is that there is little new and no indication that the Obama team even understands what needs to be done.

We cannot win a military victory in Afghanistan unless we commit to a long-term campaign that would cost in excess of $1 trillion and would require tripling the size of the U.S. military. If we were not in the grips of an impending global economic depression we might be able to entertain such a fantasy. Given the current economic realities we know that the military option is a non-starter.

Our biggest problem to date in terms of military operations is that we lack a coherent, integrated plan under the control of a single commander. NATO is doing its thing while U.S. conventional forces pursue their own agenda. Meanwhile, U.S. Special Operations forces and the CIA are pursuing their own objectives. Everyone is well intentioned but good intentions don’t and won’t quell the violence. Absent a single chain of command and a strategic campaign plan, the military resources currently employed in Afghanistan will continue to flail and, at times, operate at cross purposes. It is akin to a truck that is stuck in a ditch. Rather than putting a group behind the truck to push and a group in front to pull we have allowed four rescuers to attach their respective ropes on all four sides of the vehicle and they will pull in their own direction. That guarantees the truck will stay stuck in the ditch.

What is striking about the Obama announcement today is there is no there there. It is nothing. 4,000 additional troops on top of 17,000 already committed. That is only two thirds of what General McKiernan said that he needed:

United States President Barack Obama decided to approve only 17,000 of the 30,000 troops requested by General David McKiernan, the top commander of US and North Atlantic Treaty Organization troops in Afghanistan, and General David Petraeus, the Central Command chief, after McKiernan was unable to tell him how they would be used, according to White House sources.

One other thing the press has missed–we do not have the infrastructure in place in Afghanistan yet to support the additional 21,000 troops. Building that will be a costly proposition as well but will be “stimulative” for KBR. And with more troops comes bigger logistics lines of communication, which already are shaky and frayed.

Here is the sad reality–the Obama team is still struggling to find a policy response. Sadly, the Obama team is making an empty gesture in Afghanistan that will not shift the political conditions on the ground in a direction that will make us safer. Worse, the tepid policy response will foster an impression that the U.S. is weak. We should not be surprised if our adversaries decided to test our resolve in other areas because they have calculated that we are drowning and have no vision for saving ourselves. It will be quite apparent as 2009 comes to an end that our dismal policy in Afghanistan is in serious trouble.

UPDATE–What Should We Do?

I realized that I failed to outline what we should be doing. These are the broad outlines of what our policy/strategy should be in Afghanistan:

1. Focus on equipping and enabling Afghan tribal forces to defend and protect their tribal territories. Right now our approach is fractured. The CIA’s paramilitary forces, who are comprised mainly of retired Special Forces vets, use traditional counter insurgency techniques of relying primarily on indigenous personnel to carry out military ops. U.S. Special Operations and conventional forces, however, work largely independent of the locals and conduct independent operations with little or no assistance from indigenous personnel.

2. Step up diplomatic efforts and assistance to get neighboring countries to control the borders. Ironically we have an easier task with Iran than Pakistan. Iran is battling a major problem with heroin use and wants to shut down the trafficking from Afghanistan. In this case we need to work with Iran to shut down the drug trafficking out of Afghanistan. Pakistan is a tougher nut to crack.

3. Identify and exploit tribal difference. The Pashtun tribes don’t recognize as inviolate the border separating Pakistan and Afghanistan. But the Pashtun is not a monolith. There are sub-tribes that do not like each other and we should try to capitalize on those differences.

4. Give military commanders what they need provided they establish and implement a single, coherent chain of command. What do I mean? I have a unique perspective on what is going on. I have some close friends who are CIA officers and have been on the ground recently in Afghanistan. I know from these sources how the CIA is operating. Similarly, I have close friends in the military, some are working in the conventional environment and some in the special operations world. There is no internal, coordinated approach at this time. Worst, there seems to be a basic assumption that there is someone in control and this problem is being addressed. There is no one in control, at least not yet, and the problem of fractured command and control remains in place.

We should have one simple focus–prevent Islamic extremists from reconstituting and carrying out terrorist attacks against the United States and its allies.

  • Peggy Sue

    Obama is going to get a lot of Americans killed, both our sons and daughters in uniform and civilians. The vultures are already circling because they percieve the world’s giant is on her knees. I think we can safely say, the American Idol President is not performing well under stress.

    God help us all!

  • http://thesibylspeaks.wordpress.com/ Anthony

    One other thing the press has missed–we do not have the infrastructure in place in Afghanistan yet to support the additional 21,000 troops.

    Think he’ll manage to draft those troops with G.I.V.E.? Maybe we should take a closer look at “Public Allies” http://www.publicallies.org/site/c.liKUL3PNLvF/b.2634379/k.BF91/Home.htm

    Time to ‘snap out of it’, say I

    http://thesibylspeaks.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/what-have-you-learned-dorothy/

  • http://thesibylspeaks.wordpress.com/ Anthony

    Sorry – meant to quote that first line……

  • Seattle Moss

    The only rhyme to reason with Afganistan is to keep plodding along with a failed strategy so that our troops are forced to stay in the region and beyond.
    If we had a good strategy we could finish the job and maybe have our troops come home.
    The reality is that Afganistan is a Works Project just like the other stimulus programs, but this time with the military. By continuing to fail we keep the military industrial complex with work and our troops in the field without having to com home to unemployment and civil unrest.

  • Doc99

    Afghanistan is doomed as long as the Pakistan ISI is functioning. Pakistan is the problem. Or has Hopey One forgotten that one already?

  • Philip Henika

    No Quarter:

    One reform of CT strategy is the growth of a global consensus re: the criminalization of terrorist acts. This, IMO, is President Obama’s investment in the future of CT efforts. Vic Comras talks of the trend in the reformation of CT strategy: “Just about every country in the world passed new legislation, regulations, and put in place some sort of structure to combat and to criminalize terrorism. We saw a marked improvement in many countries’ability to regulate their borders, banks, and commerce. Yes, we helped build – and are still building – an improved international infrastructure for combating terrorism – But, this structure is still far from sufficient. And there is still a serious lack of will and accountability when it comes to implementation.” – Vic Comras, Counterterrorism Blog & Potomac Institute Panel: Reforming U.S. Counterterrorism Assistance Programs.

    http://counterterrorismblog.org/Reforming%20U.S.%20Counterterrorism%20Assistance%20Programs_CTB%20Event%202.pdf

  • mary

    Larry”s insightful piece here is an eye-opener for those of us who wish to really dig down and understand the situation in Afganistan. What troubled me was that Baracks lied to the CBC reporter a few weeks ago when visiting Ottawa and when asked what he thought about attacking the situation there he said that:

    “I believe in Diplomacy and Development; and I don’t believe at all on military solutions.” Meantime, the day before he had sent 17,000 troops to Afganistan!

    My question to Larry is whether doubling the troops and the money needed would make Afganistan’s democracy grow or make Americans safer?

    What should a *Competent* Administration (let’s hypothesize Hillary Clinton was elected) do? And how much should it spend at these hours of need at home? And if the British Empire, the French and the Soviets failed so miserably there, what would make the American approach a success this time? And could the Obama Administration truly devote the smarts (does it have them?) and the bucks to alleviate the suffering of the Afganis? Or is it that the soros-back Administration just wants to guard the oil pipelines to the Caspian? If that’s the case, wouldn’t this be futile and a waste of good money after bad money?
    Is it really Obummer’s goal to promote Feminism 101 in Kabul universities for girls? (This is a cool Chicago political sewer-rat who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about women’s and girls’ human rights! Ask Jon Favreau who’s got a cushy raise and is Head Director of (Teleprompting)Speech Writing!

    Anyway, what we need to read here at No Quarter is a SERIES of articles by Larry on what caused the mess in Afganistan and can be done and is it worth it? As a former CIA officer, and one who’s spoken with HIllary in the past and understands the differences of her approach vs TOTUS, his insights would be much appreciated by readers who want to really understand this situation that’s getting worse by the minute–scary that TOTUS may have to respond to that 3:00AM Call, eh?!!

    Thanks Larry!

  • mary

    Sorry, Larry, my question can be best summed up here as: “What IS the best SANE policy in Afganistan? and how can Obama implement it if he doesn’t understand what’s required”?

  • SJ

    I wonder if Code Pink is going to take to the streets as they did in the Bush years, I will sit and wait for the protest to begin, or is it that since this is an Obama sanctioned war then war is not so bad after all?

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    They have a page for Obama, but it’s hardly as antagonist as they were towards Bush:

    http://www.codepinkalert.org/article.php?list=type&type=392

    Nothing in their blog about the latest troop escalation either.

  • mary

    Peggy sue

    Obummer TOTUS is the other side of the Dubya coin of Incompetence and Arrogance!

    Afganistan is Obummer’s Iraq. It’ll bury him!

  • Doc99

    Obama on Afghanistan: Disappointing. Michael Yon

  • Carol HAKA

    Not soon enough!

  • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

    Give him a break, Oisafraud–he’s tired! He needs another weekend at Camp David, or at least to get out of that oppressive White House what with all the work and stuff there.

    Seriously, though, this is a great article with very astute observations. Why on earth is there such a disconnect between knowledgeable people and the administration?

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Obama-Bush/ Bush-Obama–what’s the difference when it comes to wars?

    Very good post, Larry. Thanks for your perspective.

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    “Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    At the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.” – Rudyard Kipling, The Naulahka

  • candymarl

    If Bush had done this the screeching would be loud and long. Obama escalates a war? Nothing.

    I’m sure the anti-war folks will be out in the streets any moment now. Or maybe not.

  • Ellen D

    I recognized this:

    Identify and exploit tribal difference. The Pashtun tribes don’t recognize as inviolate the border separating Pakistan and Afghanistan. But the Pashtun is not a monolith. There are sub-tribes that do not like each other and we should try to capitalize on those differences.

    Anyone who knows the history of Scotland knows that the English exploited the dislike between clans. There’s nothing like closeness of tribes to breed enmity.

  • Boxer Mum 06

    I’m sure Obama will make it all good with Karzai and bring him a set of DVDs that won’t play in their region.

  • pm317

    What I read in RCP that 0bama wrote was pretty good. I am a fierce critic of 0bama as anyone here. But I am glad he is saying the right thing here. Where Bush failed was to throw money at the problem and not hold the culprits accountable. If 0bama can go after Pakistan to force them to do their part about Taliban and Al-Qaeda (and numerous other terror groups they support) and help build Afghanistan army to secure the country, that is progress. From what I hear there are quite a few countries wanting to help the US and NATO tackle Afghanistan and Taliban and Al-Qeada. It is in everybody’s interest to prevent Pakistan (and Afghanistan) from disintegrating into a terrorist haven if it is not already that.

    We should have one simple focus–prevent Islamic extremists from reconstituting and carrying out terrorist attacks against the United States and its allies.

    This is key and let us hope Pakistan is a big part of the solution. It is frustrating to see why that country cannot clean up its act.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Yep! Your solution sounds about right to me!

  • termo

    Fwd: POTUS

    Brilliant analysis and strategy. A few points:

    “I had hoped that the Obama team, with input from the likes of General Jim Jones and Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, would forge a sane policy in Afghanistan.”

    I would bet that Obama has ignored General Jones input as he has the military commanders on the ground.

    “the Bush policy was, at best, asleep at the switch.”

    Rather than asleep I would say “distracted” because of Iraq War which allowed Al Qaeda/Taliban to have the time to regroup and entrench.

    My biggest concern right now is that Obama is operating out of ideology and wishful thinking rather than out of an understanding of history and professional advice.

    If there is one lesson concluded from the Vietnam War is that wars should not be run by elected civilian officials from the White House and that is apparently what is happening again. Also, you cannot run wars on the cheap as Rumsfeld folly showed.

  • Steve_in_KC

    Seattle Moss astutely observed:

    The reality is that Afganistan is a Works Project just like the other stimulus programs, but this time with the military. By continuing to fail we keep the military industrial complex with work and our troops in the field without having to com home to unemployment and civil unrest.

    I absolutely agree with this concept. Make-work programs were a good part of coming out of the Great Depression, but what really ended it was World War II. That put a LOT of men to work! And the women, being exempt from the draft, filled many typically-male jobs in the workplace. Plus that, there was a War Tax. The military industrial complex was thriving due to this massive endeavor.

    Since I don’t have any sons, I don’t fear a military draft personally, but then I kind of think that any new military draft might include females nowadays. I suspect a draft of some kind is in the blueprint stages, perhaps already sitting on the desks of some Congressional committees.

    Once we get into a full-blown draft for the military, all the Obots (most of them young) will be singing a different tune! Those unfit for military duty might find themselves drafted into public service here at home, doing the jobs the National Guard used to do before Bush decided to make the Guard a full-time combat service in order to justify his own military “service” as being something more than weekend flying lessons.

  • KmX

    I think Obama is makign a huge mistake with this Afghan war. Afghanistan is not like Iraq where they have a somewhat developed infrastruture and oil revenues to help rebuild. Afhansitan will require lots of money and help to stop the terrorist attacks.

    I hope the Americans can train the Afghans fast and get the hell out of there. Let the muslims defend theri own country. Iraq war should be a lesson to future leaders.

    This is David Patreus plan he is following. But I would have rather he just contain the talibann with a small elite American forces over a period of several years instead of this large influx of American troops.

  • Doc99

    Does anyone take Obama seriously?

    A few Obama-Afghanistan healines from the last twenty days:

    March 7, 2009–
    Obama Announces We’re Losing War and He Is Open to Reaching Out to Taliban

    March 11, 2009–
    Genius Joe Biden: Only “5% of the Taliban Is Incorrigible”

    March 11, 2009–
    Taliban reminds Obama & Biden: “We’re not Moderate”

    March 23, 2009–
    Obama Already Looking For Way Out of Afghanistan

    March 23, 2009–
    Obama (Who was against Iraq War) Says: “Iraq War Was Easier Than Afghanistan”

    March 24, 2009–
    Obama will stay on offense in Afghanistan

    March 24, 2009–
    Team Obama Wants an Exit Strategy in Afghanistan

    March 27, 2009–
    Obama vows to ‘disrupt, dismantle and defeat’ Taliban

  • CG

    One has to wonder given the influence of money, or the potential to coerce such a weak president, why Obama is choosing this course in Afghanistan. One wonders if it is intentional that “we lack a coherent, integrated plan under the control of a single commander.” You are a very sage observer, LJ, and very smart, yet why is this obvious fact eluding Obama, unless it were on purpose. History books, and many currently written books all point to the difficulty we face, but what about the closure of the Manas base in Kyrgyzstan and what about In confident spirits, the Taliban fighters predicted that 2009 is going to be a “very bloody” because the Taliban on both sides of the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan are putting aside their differences, all of which further impedes a chance to succeed. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/27/world/asia/27taliban.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

    one simple focus–prevent Islamic extremists from reconstituting and carrying out terrorist attacks against the United States and its allies

    Maybe the problem is everyone thinks they can prevent Islamic extremists from reconstituting, with no one on the same page on how to meet the challenge because they serve their self-interest primarily; funny how money and power complicate things. Is it intentional flubbing or incompetence?

  • termo

    When it came to Bush/Rumsfeld there is no difference. Both involved running a war from the White House and ignorning military advice and direction.

    The only difference is that eventually Bush “got it” – fired Rumsfeld – and followed the advice of Patraeus and the commanders on the ground.

  • CG

    oops, sorry it should read In confident spirits, the Taliban fighters predicted that 2009 is going to be a “very bloody” year

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    These groups are ridiculous posers. They will never ever admit they were wrong. They’re not big enough in the honesty and integrity department.

    And frankly I don’t think it was ever about anything but lefty socialist representation. Whatever comes along with it is okey dokey with them. Boy, are they in for a surprise. It won’t be cute or pleasant either.

  • CG

    so “elegant,” I’m getting a tingly feeling in one of my legs. no Wonder Stevie proclaimed in song “I love Obama.”

  • cynic

    I don’t believe anyone has ever finished the job in Afghanistan. It’s a place world powers have gone for centuries to beat their heads against a wall, leaving once they decide it’s someone else’s turn.

  • Peggy Sue

    I agree, Mary. My problem is that it will bury us all.

    And as much as I don’t like this administration, I don’t want to see that for us, our kids, our future.

  • WMCB

    I’ve always been of the opinion that Obama would be a disaster as CIC, if for no other reason than he cannot stand a slight or an insult, and always has to prove he is “the big man”. He is not cool or dispassionate, everything is personal to him, and he has to strut and prove his is bigger than the other guy’s, since he is at his core extremely insecure.

    One does not want someone with that sort of temperament in charge of large guns and bombs.

  • Peggy Sue

    Cindy Sheehan has already joined the protest. They had her taped this week, calling 0bama a warmonger who supports and is supported by America’s Baron Robbers.

    At the very least, Sheehan is consistent in her protest. Doesn’t say a whole lot but it’s something!

  • http://soldierforhillary.com soldier4hillary

    This is what pisses me off with this administration. Larry outlined a starting point of a actual *plan* in one blog post when Obama has had two years to make one since he *knew* he would win the election. How can you say for two years on the campaign trail that Afghanistan was the *place* to be. But yet come up with that garbage I heard this morning? Two years? Two years and THIS is all this administration can come up with? WTF This isnt about a plan. This is all about politics and reelection.

    We will not get any NATO support because these individuals are not stupid. They see through this crap. You can’t get on television and just list off countries that need to help without getting any commitment from them. This is not a game but a real world problem. If we ask other countries to support this effort we better have a damn good strategy to see through to the end. There is no *end date*. Either we are going to be successful or going to advance someone else’s agenda.

    Who would support this? It has *reelection bid* written all over it and it is OBVIOUS. I bet he will pull a Bush *Mission Accomplished* moment and drop Afghanistan like a hot potato. All of these countries like China upping there defense spending. North Korea flexing there nuclear capabilities and then you have us. A country that barely has a pot to piss in, printing currency to pay for sh*t thinking it will work. You would think they would pay attention to Zimbabwe and see how well that printing money thing is working for them.

    Instead of them listening to those arm chair warriors up there on capital hill on giving there impression on *strategy* when some probably couldn’t find some of those places on a map or fight there way out of a paper bag. Give the Commanders on ground what they need. It will be hard for them to say what they need them for though. Considering they will have to base there briefing on what the *mission* is. So what happens when you need the boots on ground but the mission changes every time *the base* begin there screeching from the left?

    Someone should tell Mr Obama that they could come up with a darn good outline if the *mission* didnt change day to day. And they think other countries will support this? No one is going to sign on to this crap sandwich and place there soldiers lives on the line just so someone can win the next election. And I don’t blame any of them. We are sending 4,000 soldiers from here on Bragg and I sh*t you not, I literally was *clinging* to my camoflauge bible from my last deployment during his presser.

    When he begins to talk about *national security and foreign policy* I can literally here the *whoosh* sound from military posts everywhere throughout the country as motivation deflates as we realize once again we are about to be screwed. So if you hear a thumping sound don’t be alarmed.

    It’s just people hearts falling and hitting the ground as we realize if someone doesn’t get out there soon, hint, hint and do SOMETHING they are going to end up having a whole lot of pissed off individuals on there way to DC demanding a plan that works. We are not expendable. If we are to do our jobs than they better give us the tools and resources to do so.

  • KmX

    Anyone notice that Obama did not mention the Taliban in his speech today. He said he is in Afghanistan and Pakistan to defeat Al queda. Or perhaps I missed hearing the Taliban part.

  • KsGirl

    Very informative Larry..

    Thank YOU…

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    he does love to give d.v,d,s lol

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    i have a very bad feeling about this..

  • Becks

    Here we go again…new boss same as the old boss. Obama’s not for war or so is what he campaigned and won the affections of the left on. I don’t get it, was he just not for the Iraq war but Afghanistan is okay? They say every president wants a war during his term(s); commander-in-chief bona-fides and all that but this is a dangerous flip-flop with very grave consequences. We’re talking sons, daughters, husbands, wives, mothers, fathers, friends. I was prepared for him to start bringing troops home not sending more to a different war. What’s he going to do send our Iraq troops to Afghanistan? I hope he knows what he’s doing because he has set the wheels in motion on this. I pray for our troops. All of them.

  • Becks

    And another thing: I HATE the way he pronounces
    Pa-ka-stahn, and Tally-bon. No one and I mean no one, not generals, military analysts, pundits, members of his admin, regular folk pronounce those words like that.

  • ziggy

    Uhhhh… Click on the America Flag icons at the top of each page below to hear the correct pronunciation of each word:

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Pakistan

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/taliban

  • Naif Sag Tan

    Larry: Thanks for your insight as to what is the problem and what could/should be done.

    The real problem is we have no right to be in Afghanistan now. Our boots on the ground insults all Afgans. We were not invited.

    Iraq: A ‘Pre-emptive Strike’ based on lies told to the public? The Kurds still want Kirkuk, the big oil area that was part of Kurdistan of old. This can not be resolved.

    Now Pakistan: Over 30 nuclear warheads. The Pakistani’s don’t want us on their soil. Period.

    The tribes of old, the leaders want us out of Afghanistan. We use drones to kill people that we do not know if they are the true bad people or just being set up by some faction that points them out.

    Pres. Obama want up to 200 Billion to be spent this year in Afghanistan and Iraq. ENOUGH of this mindless killing. The military answer does not exist.

  • CG

    I have since watched Obama describe this mission and others analyze his comments. I realize how naive and jaded my opinion was above. Do I wonder about the success of this mission, absolutely.

    He still can’t read a teleprompter, ha, ha:

    it is far cheaper to train a policeman to secure his or her own village than to help a farmer seed a crop

    The problems are monumental; Pakistan is the biggest challenge, even considering NATO, U.S. conventional forces, U.S. Special Operations forces and the CIA each pursuing their own objectives rather than unified under one command with a single purpose.
    “Just words”

    the world cannot afford the price that will come due

    we have a shared responsibility to act

    the very idea that free nations can come together on behalf of our common security, our common purpose today

    some have taken up arms because of coercion or simply for a price

  • imustprotest

    Spoken like a true Obot!! LOL!

  • Peggy Sue

    Soldier4 Hillary:

    There’s a rather scathing analysis at The Nation by Tom Hayden, no less, that underscores what you’re saying here [nice to know someone is starting to wake up--the Far Left, not you, Soldier]. I found this comment chilling:

    “In summary, be prepared for a war that spans the length of the Obama presidency, an Obama War. Expect the Congress to be inert and distracted. Expect little help from the media.

    But hey, we’ve been here before.”

    Full article here:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/27/opinion/main4897292.shtml

    For those too young to remember, Tom Hayden was a founder of the SDS, arrested as part of the Chicago Seven, and the decade + husband of Jane Fonda.

    Even the Far Left kool-aide drinkers are howling. This is not a good sign.

    Tea Party anyone???

  • Philip Henika

    Quote from the article below:

    “The program has been compared to the U.S.-fostered Awakening Councils in Iraq, which have often been credited with reducing violence there.”

    Note that Iraq Awakening was composed of two efforts e.g. the American-based Sons of Iraq (public security) and the Iraqi Awakening (national reconciliation). President Obama seems to have embraced, in some cases, ‘alternative solutions’ to past Bush Administration policies in Iraq. Correct me if I am wrong, but President Obama has used the phrase “anti-American sentiment” which seems to rise with military interventions which result in civilian casualites.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090327/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan;_ylt=AhKVeo2zTQjYoWWGG0F28KRvaA8F

    First Afghan community policing force graduates
    By HEIDI VOGT, Associated Press Writer
    Fri Mar 27, 7:09 am ET

    “…KABUL – The first group of Afghans have completed training for a U.S.-backed community policing force that some warn will arm local militias, but the government has touted as vital to confronting an increasingly virulent insurgency…”

  • Becks

    I stand by my statement. However pronounced, no one says it the way he does…right or wrong. It’s just distracting and annoying.

  • elise

    Larry, I just have a couple of questions. Is your fist suggestion the same thing the military has done in Iraq? Weren’t the tribal leaders given money and weapons in exchange for resiting Al Qaeda? What happened to the $$$ billions promised by various countries to rebuild the infrastructure in Afghanistan at the beginning of the war? And since not all Pashtun tribes get along, how will arming them assure their cooperation with each other? It seems impossible to win the hearts and minds of the Afghanis unless the bombing of civilians stops and if the hearts and minds are not with the military, how can we prevail? It’s a beautiful and wild country and the people are so handsome, but they are living in another century. The Soviets never made any headway and I wonder if we will either. Poppies are their largest export and most of that is controlled by the Taliban. There are some Indian tribes in Peru who have never seen a modern city, but they don’t go to war. I can’t help but think the Taliban would never have become strong if Afghanistan hadn’t gotten caught in the middle through no fault of their own. First the Soviets then the mujaheddin, trained by the US I believe, followed by Al Qeada.

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    Larry, who the hell is giving Obama advice???? On foreign affairs, the economy, Iraq/Afghanistan???? Where is he getting this misinformation? I want to know.

  • marley

    So many different ideas. I am only sharing to illustrate so please do not clobber me.

    me: supported Hillary; voted McCain; basically wants to withdraw from Afgahnistan or go hard; no big problem with Iraq War

    dad: supported Hillary; voted Obama; fought in Vietnam; little problems with Iraq War; thinks we should nuke Afghanistan and turn the place to glass so nothing can grow there for 50 years

  • TeakwoodKite

    • His envoy Holbrooke said Afghanistan and Pakistan would no longer be treated separately….

    • Pakistan intelligence identifies at least 20 young Britons trained by Pakistan Kashmiri terrorists and al Qaeda.
    • Al Qaeda cells in UK proliferate, all linked to Pakistan

    And this from awhile back…
    One Step Closer to War in Iran.

    That LJ posted way back on 3-11-08.

    While the Pakistan Afghan theater is simmering away, the world is hardly standing still.

    Thanks Mr. Johnson for commenting on this critical piece of policy (or lack there of) with the recent posting by LisaB of the wheels coming off the bus, is this effort going to be frustrated with SOS Clinton being undercut by these ropes pulling the wheels off?

    I have also been reading that the Special Ops are seriously lacking logistical support. So it would follow that all these assembled forces are lacking as well.

    OBL had stated he would attack western economics…what better way to drain away the initiative than spend this country’s treasure to play right into this hand.

    I look forward to you next installment and very much appreciate your views.

    The velocity of BO earwax on the Matrix is very difficult to keep up with.

  • MBC

    Soldier4Hillary, nice to read your comments again. You were missed.

  • Peggy Sue

    Just as an aside or addendum to the discussion and Larry’s article, I ran across this piece at the Washington Times ” The Afghanistan Debate.” Apparently this was caused a heated discussion with Biden/Steinberg [Deputy SOS] and Holbrooke,Petraeus and Hillary Clinton.

    The Holbrooke-Petraeu-Clinton faction won the debate. Another interesting look and angle.

    Article can be found here:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/26/inside-the-ring-23718486/

    There’s also a link within the article talking about the 4000 additional “military advisors.” That makes me nervous. Kennedy started sending in military advisors and we ended up with Vietnam.

    Anyway, I found it interesting.

  • termo

    I am not sure I agree with the view that Obama agreed with Patreaus, because he is not committing the level of troops that commanders are asking for.

    I do agree that this could be another Vietnam because the one lesson of Vietnam is that if you are going to fight a war, don’t fight it halfway.

    Vietnam was a war that was run from the White House and not on the ground. This could be another Vietnam because Obama is choosing to ignore all of the advice of commanders and fight this halfway.

    There are also other similarities such as the terrain being an asset to the enemy, the enemy being embedded within a loyal civilian population, and the people we are trying to protect having questionable commitment to fighting this enemy.

    The one difference is that the Vietnamese never attacked the U.S. while Al Qaeda and Taliban did.

  • Philip Henika

    In conclusion, reform of foreign assistance operations in Afghanistan and elsewhere include precedents and practices needed for effective counterterrorism strategy. Stability operations in Afghanistan are designed to completely defeat Al Qaeda which also means an end to its resurgence. Internationalization is included because global consensus building on the criminalization of terrorism is needed. The difficulty will be coordination of government agencies. The simple guideline of ‘helping people to help themselves’ is worth examination.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Well, Mr. Know-It-All, perhaps you can give That One lessons in public speaking while you’re at it. Er, ah, and uh are not words, no matter how often inserted into sentences.

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