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Below: Progressives Are Progressively Miffed … Check Out the Americorps Bill … PBO’s Teleprompter Is Not a Crutch, Really (at the end, I give the Teleprompter-In-Chief a piece of my mind for his dependency on his crutch)

There are far too many interesting things to show you today (stay tuned for my economic news round-up!). Where shall I start? Let’s see …

1) Rollcall has a story about the progressive caucus. They are very miffed that Obama hasn’t met with them yet.

Liberal House Democrats are stewing that they have yet to get face time with President Barack Obama, despite his whirlwind charm offensive that has ushered every other major faction of the Caucus into the White House for private meetings.

“Members are either taking it as a slight, or that we’re irrelevant in the planning process,” said Rep. Raúl Grijalva (Ariz.), co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Hey, isn’t the saying “why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?” Or something classy like that?

2) The Washington Examiner writes that Obamacorps, oops, Americorps, is being changed a bit.

With almost no public attention, both chambers of Congress in the past week advanced an alarming expansion of the Americorps national service plan, with the number of federally funded community service job increasing from 75,000 to 250,000 at a cost of $5.7 billion.
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Last summer, then-candidate Barack Obama threw civil liberties to the wind when he proposed “a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the regular military. The expanded Americorps is not quite so disturbing, but a number of provisions in the bill raise serious concerns.
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But that’s not all. The bill also calls for “youth engagement zones” in which “service learning” is “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.” This updated form of voluntary community service is also to be “integrated into the science, technology, engineering and mathematics curricula” at all levels of schooling. Sounds like a government curriculum for government approved “service learning,” which is nothing less than indoctrination.

I certainly think service learning is a good thing. BUT, I think it should be a local decision how and why to implement it. Of course, if the point is to make bots, well then, a national version might be the thing.

3) Lastly, there is this terrible piece about how not awful Obama’s reliance on the teleprompter is.

But it is a mistake to argue that the uncrafted is somehow more authentic. Those writers and commentators who prefer the unscripted, who use “rhetoric” as an epithet, who see the teleprompter as a linguistic push-up bra, do not understand the nature of presidential leadership or the importance of writing to the process of thought.
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Obama’s goal at his recent news conference was less elevated — to express his thoughts on the economy with precision, as he faces a crisis in which a stray word could have a tremendous cost.

During a wobbly first two months, Obama has had many problems. But using an autocue isn’t one of them. A teleprompter speech represents the elevation of writing in politics. And good writing has an authenticity of its own.

So, the pushback on the teleprompter issue begins. I think BO’s pride may be at stake here. The author essentially argues that the teleprompter is a sign of an orderly, purposeful and sober mind.

I get it. Obama wants to carefully and soberly read the words Facebook Favreau writes. Each one is a jewel to linger over and pronounce correctly (or not).

To paraphrase another famous extemporaneous speaker, “this guy cannot be serious.”

No. Anyone who has had to sit for an oral exam or speak extemporaneously or debate someone else knows that it IS POSSIBLE to have an orderly, purposeful and sober mind without a teleprompter. People do it all the time because they know their stuff and can speak knowledgeably.

BO’s problem is that he doesn’t and he can’t.

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Great post! Thanks Lisa B!

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    My God! How does Bill Clinton do it? The ability to speak sans teleprompter (or in spite of it) has been a marvel to see with President Clinton. And amazingly, never condescending or smarmy as our present POTUS.

  • cathnealon

    Isn’t this guy a lawyer? Don’t they learn how to debate, argue and speak exremporaenously in law school? Did this guy even go to law school? Did he go to high school? In short, where the hell did this guy come from, some other galaxy?

  • cathnealon

    sorry-I was so outraged at this that I spelled extemporaneously wrong the first time.

  • Kim

    Bill Clinton is the most talented speaker I have ever heard. I don’t think I will see another person with his abilities in my lifetime. He can speak to anyone about anything, anytime, with absolutely no preparation.

  • cynic

    It’s a valid point. If you wish to express your thoughts as clearly as possible, put them in writing. The obsession with Obama’s teleprompter baffles me. You’re worried that suggests he’s an actor? Ronald Reagan was an actor.

  • Peggy Sue

    Lisa thanks for the article. The teleprompter defense is almost funny. But when you’ve bought into 0bama’s “doing a great job,” I guess you can buy into anything.

    This, however, I find truly alarming:

    “This updated form of voluntary community service is also to be “integrated into the science, technology, engineering and mathematics curricula” at all levels of schooling. Sounds like a government curriculum for government approved “service learning,” which is nothing less than indoctrination.”

    My kids all went to public school. If I were a parent and saw this intrusion in academic curricula, I’d be pissed and jumping up and down. I hope they’re are parents out there willing to push back.

    It’s ridiculous and scary!

  • NoBamaNoWay

    yep. ozero and his minions know the empty-suited One will never be in Bill or Hillary’s league

  • Peggy Sue

    And two actors = what? Theater in the round??

    Please the defense of the teleprompter is lame. If Obama can’t think and debate on his feet, we have serious problems. Should make the G-20 interesting.

    Interestingly enough there was an article last week reporting that 0bama is trying to ween himself off the prompter. So, even he knows it’s a problem.

  • lauraks

    Well yes the two most important skill sets for lawyers are the ability to speak well and write well.Do you know for a fact that he wrote his amazing biographies? Are you aware that his nomination to the president of the Harvard Law Review was not based on grades?

    For those of us not a symbol , which he most certainly is, all of the normal skills are necessary. What I don’t get is how Obama can feel good about in essence being treated as if he is an affirmative action president.

    All of the excuses and tortured logic used to explain away his clear deficiencies is truly strange. It cannot help but have a marked effect on how well the country fares.

  • KmX

    “I voted for the Democrats because I didn’t like the way the Republicans were running the country. Which is turning out to be like shooting yourself in the head to stop your headache.” (Jack Mayberry)

  • cynic

    It sounds to me like a plan for volunteer teaching, to untilize an enormous pool of available expertise in science, engineering, technology, and mathematics that currently goes totally wasted. In what sense is this “indoctrination”? I’d expand it even further. Do you know how many schools have budgeted out music and arts programs because they can’t afford the additional teaching staff? There’s talent out there that could be matched up with the needs. Retired people of acomplishment having experience and knowledge, who would gladly make it available simply because they love their fields, and recognize that they are important. How many public school class rooms sit dark and empty in the evening? Why not make educational opportunities available of an evening for adults, and optional classes available for ambitions school-age kids who want more than they’re getting during regular school hours?

  • Lyn

    As long as the retired people and Baby Boomer have a CHOICE in if they want to volunteer or stay at home and have their afternoons and weekends to do what THEY want.
    IF a retired person wants to help with after school programs or even during the school hours help, there is nothing that stops them now… they ceretainly don’t need Uniforms and camps (oops camps sound scarey call them campuses) to volunteer AND all the programs should NOT be geared toward just disadvantaged youth or AA colleges.

  • KintheNorthwest

    Saw Bill Clinton when he was campaigning for Hillary. He mostly spoke off the cuff with a couple of note cards. There was no teleprompter visible.

  • athena

    I would push back – or even better, I would just home school….

  • Lyn

    I’m worried that he doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about. IF he really new the subjects, he could anser questions without his uuuum and uuuuhhh and talking round and round with out saying anything.

  • KintheNorthwest

    You know I am beginning to wonder about Obama’s credentials. I mean why has Obama sealed so much of his last few years to the public eye? What is most curious is why Obama has paid upwards of a million dollars to keep his BC and other stuff under wraps. Strange

  • I’m a Linda too

    you’re right, that “terrible piece” from Real Clear poli’s is a terrible piece. And can I add, OH, WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO KID? What, did Obama’s speech writers send that one in?

    one more comment, PUH LEEZE oh Weary Barry.

  • Kim

    Remember when he did the State of the Union speech from memory when they loaded the wrong speech in the teleprompter? That is real talent and someone who knows what the heck they are talking about.

  • Kim

    I agree.

  • candymarl

    Obama has been compared to JFK, Lincoln, and MLK. None of those men had a teleprompter.

    The press, these folks in the article included, hailed Obama as the most intelligent POTUS ever. Yet OBama needs a teleprompter and cannot speak from memory. Therefore proving his brilliance.

    1984 is here.

  • KintheNorthwest

    So true—I bet 1/2 the people that voted Obama wish they could take their votes back now.
    Hmmm if Obama’s ratings are now 50/50 I guess that does mean that 1/2 of his people are already sick of him. Guess that means I would have a REALLY Good chance of winning my bet. Hmmmm

  • cynic

    That single occurence of the word “mandatory”– with respect to studying the feasibility,usefulness, and fairness of a future national service program for able young Americans–sure has grown legs and covered a lot of territory.

    What stops people now is that there isn’t any large-scale organized program for facilitating volunteer teaching or volunteer service in general. (There are the Red Cross, Civil Defense, and various church and community efforts, of course.) I think the Obama administration is thinking something far grander is possible, and that this might be one of those “build it and they will come” situations. I’m kind of withholding judgement until I see what actually begins to develop.

  • cathnealon

    “I’d expand it even further”
    Yeah-I bet you would, sounds like BO can use your “talents,” maybe you could help write the New World Order textbooks, or arrange a music curriculum centered on Wagner or you could round up senior citizens and tell them that they have to volunteer or they’ll lose their Social Security benefits or find the young people still left in this country who can think for themselves and send them to camps to listen to 18 hours of BO’s voice over loudspeakers unitl they volunteer. Or better yet why don’t you go right now to Craigs List and find some gainful employment under the non-profit category where SEIU, AFO and other BO organizations are looking for a few good and obedient employees.

  • Ratings drop

    I heard that Obama’s ratings are 50% now. If so that means that Obama has dropped close to 30% in the 2 months he has been in office.
    Does anyone have a site for that.

  • Ani

    Amen. Well done, Lisa.

    Your comment here nails it:

    Anyone who has had to sit for an oral exam or speak extemporaneously or debate someone else knows that it IS POSSIBLE to have an orderly, purposeful and sober mind without a teleprompter. People do it all the time because they know their stuff and can speak knowledgeably.

    BO’s problem is that he doesn’t and he can’t.

  • bill

    The withering looks/stares Pres. Obama gave some reporters last week was creepy to me. This article helps me understand my discomfort.

    To me the president is a citizen just like the rest of us. He’s not an exalted leader but elected from among us to serve. Part of the struggle for our independence was a free press. While I “staring” down in itself does not seem so oppressive, it was the most powerful person on the earth doing it. At the time, it seemed like an attempt to censor the question asker. Maybe that’s stretching it a bit but it seemed wrong to me.

    When he spoke of this in the campaign, it sounded like the Nazi youth. Can anyone speculate how the 250,000 Americorps folks will be used?

  • candymarl

    If Obama is as brilliant as his supporters claim he shouldn’t need a telepromtpter.

    Bill Clinton could speak without one. Why can’t Obama?

    BTW Obama sang Reagan’s praises throughout the campaign and trashed Bill Clinton. Or did you forget that?

    Obots, same as Bushbots, with the same selective memory.

  • athena

    With Atlus Shrugged on its heels.

  • Lyn

    send them to camps to listen to 18 hours of BO’s voice over loudspeakers unitl they volunteer. Or

    no no don’t you remember they changed the word camps to campuses because they thought camps might scare people.(you know people might figure out the plan)

    Where are these billions coming from?

  • FLDemFem

    The only other President that came close to Bill Clinton’s ability to speak “off the cuff” was John Kennedy. He was smart and very witty. His press conferences were legend and his quips were quoted for days and weeks afterwards. Bill Clinton is a better off the cuff speaker on policy than Kennedy was, although he isn’t as funny in press conferences as JFK was. Obummer isn’t even in the same galaxy as those two, try as he might and want us to think he is.

  • Lyn

    IF you want to volunteer to help at the school, all you have to do is going up and offer most school would be THRILLED. We don’t need huge expensive programs and uniforms and camps. also just 1 part of the vounteering has to do with school, Did you read the bill? They also have programs for many other tings

    BTW many of these things are jobs people get paid now to do, so what is going to happen to the workers? will they need new jobs? and once again WHERE is all the billions coming from?

  • PamFlorida

    Obama is an ideas man who lacks the ability to translate nebulous thoughts into a coherent whole. Lacking critical thinking skills and the ability to use inductive and deductive reasoning, Obama relies on a speech writer who has to try to make sense of WORM (what Obama really means). By default, the speeches are full of rhetoric, without substance. He uses a teleprompter because he hasn’t read the “script”, much less his “lines”.
    President Clinton always had a well thought out policy or agenda, then used speech writers to clarify and edit his speeches. Since they were HIS OWN thoughts and ideas, if a telepromter malfunctioned, he was able to continue speaking because he had complete knowledge of the subject.

  • truthorconsequences

    Maybe Obama would be better off sticking to citing Saul Alinski chapter and verse. The great agitater is a dud and so is his audience.

  • Lisabona

    OISAFRAUD, ” Clinton’s smarts and class” you are right. Don’t forget – Affirmative action” – don’t teach manners. Communist countries had also kind of affirmative action. In order to be priviledged the person had to be member of a CP. Luckily they get rid of the system its time for America to do the same.

  • C.S.

    None of this is new; schools and communities have been doing this years before we even knew Soertoro/Obama was in the US and it sounds as if he still isn’t aware that retired people volunteered their time and expertise at their local schools so he plans to step in and take away free choice!

    Here’s one experience I am familiar with. Our local schools realized that the Greatest Generation and those they rescued, Holocaust Survivors, were getting older and their personal perspective on this world changing event would be lost so they arranged for them to tell their experiences to their students (sans teleprompters) and recorded for posterity. It’s one thing to read Anne Frank and another to have lived it. It’s one thing to know Grandpa was at Omaha Beach and another to hear how he survived the landing.

    We don’t need a government program providing “training” in “volunteerism” that could last 4 years. Just take your classroom for a visit to the latest tent cities called Obamavills and let them listen to the new “hooverville” residents give them a lesson in life.

    PS: Schools usually aren’t empty, our schools provide evening adult courses in GED, English as a first and second language, reading and other classes. They also have after school programs that last past the 8 hour work day for children with two working parents so they have a place to go. Schools have after school sports and other events in the evening, open houses, science fairs – I could go on and on. Very busy places, schools, and most of us who have taught spend a lot of unpaid volunteer hours there in the evenings.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    i don’t think he realizes that he works for us.
    WE THE PEOPLE..not the other way around..

  • James

    Which is troublesome. Reagan’s style of governing was disastrous and it is exactly how Obama governs. Both actors playing president. It’s why Obama sang praises to a Republican while trashing Clinton.

    Like Regbots before them, Obots think their guy is the second coming of Jesus.

  • cassie

    Retired people of acomplishment having experience and knowledge, who would gladly make it available simply because they love their fields, and recognize that they are important.

    Indeed they do and they should be paid for that experience and knowledge … they should not take jobs away from those in the field. Would you “volunteer” at GM or other corporations yet they fall over one another to “volunteer” at a hospital filling a position that someone could and should be hired to do. But it all “free” labour that enchances the bottom line. Why pay for the milk if you can get it free?

    Meanwhile, I’d love to know one job that BO volunteered to do … he even walked away from community organizing because it was “boring” and he felt he could accomplish little.

    And before anyone gets huffy, indeed I do volunteer my time seeing patients without charging them and working at a food pantry and on occassion at the soup kitchen on a holiday

    At one time, indentured servitude was made illegal. Even the institutionalized cannot grow their own food or other chores, even if it were theraputic for them to do so, so they pay them pennies …

    Without jobs people can turn to the military – they are always looking for a good few men and women … and some students do maintain jobs and have other responsibilites inside and outside the home. Quite frankly, I think the whole thing is a crock!

  • cynic

    You always somehow forget that We the People also includes a majority who voted for him, and a majority who still support him. Your opinion is just that: an opinion.

  • Kathy

    Exactly. In order to speak well you have to know what your convictions are. When you are grounded in what you stand for, you have already thought through the issues. Obama doesn’t know where he stands until someone tells him or until he reads the polls. That’s why he can’t speak well. And he’s trying to slide so much by, that he has to be crafty with his language so that he doesn’t accidentally tell us anything. That’s where his prompter comes in.

  • Peggy Sue

    Ahhh, but you’re being selective, cynic. It also means this:

    “So every American child starting at around age 11 or so will be encouraged (or required?) to participate in a national service program for the seven years of middle and high school. And then comes college. In college, every student who finds the prospect of a $4,000 per year grant to his or her family irresistable — that’s $16,000 over four years, $20,000 over five, toward the cost of college — every student in that position will be putting in 100 hours of service work per year, defined (apparently) as work outside of the operations of the college itself. Let’s just focus on that part for now. 100 hours per year is the equivalent of 3.3 hours per week in a 30-week school year; in other words, it is the equivalent of requiring every college student to add another course to their schedule. What are the likely effects of such a requirement, spread over 12 million or more college students?”

    Could some good come out of all this? Sure!

    But consider this:

    “So what could possibly go wrong?

    Rather a lot of things, actually. Recognize that these jobs effectively pay $40 an hour. The distorting effect of that wage on local economies can only be guessed at. But just looking at the effects within the colleges, let’s consider two cases: a small, rural private college called Cloverfield College, and a big, urban state university called Flagship U. Cloverfield probably depends on work study students to run its library and its cafeterias; diverting 25% of that workforce away from campus operations may pose a real hardship, or at a minimum require significant additional staffing that will translate into tuition increases. Surprisingly, perhaps, Cloverfield will probably not have trouble finding service projects for its students; rural poverty is endemic, and with that poverty come a host of projects that could use staffing. The administration has not given us much in the way of guidance as to what will count as “service,” but in rural areas undoubtedly some of this would take the form of things like internships at woefully understaffed social services offices. In rural areas in particular, the program may have an entirely secondary benefit of providing staff to government offices that have historically operated at vestigial levels. The staff, to be sure, will be college students, but they work for free.”

    The above analyses [amazingly balanced was published at the Huffington Post].

    And I am aware that the arts have been slashed at many public schools because of funding and because the arts are horrendously under appreciated. I could make an argument that a culture without art is a culture without a soul.

    But that’s for another time.

    We have expert retirees that would be more than happy to teach. But the’ve been blocked time and time again by the Teacher’s Union.

    We don’t need “social engineering” in our schools. We need teachers who are given the freedom to actually teach, students who are willing to learn. For bad teachers, they should be out, regardless of how many years union dues they’ve paid. And please, not every student is college material. We still need citizens who are adept at plumbing, electricity and all the other things we depend on.

    I don’t know about you, but I go to my local mechanic when my car breaks down. And I pay him a fair exchange.

    We need to give people opportunity, not empty promises. And when it comes to teaching “values,” that’s my job. Not the damn government’s.

  • Kathy

    What was scary about the use of that word mandatory was that it was later erased from the record. Just as the “I see dead people” memorial day speech video posted on O’s website edited out his line about seeing fallen soldiers in his audience. Did he make a mistake? Why not just admit it? Or did he accidentally say something he wasn’t supposed to say (regarding the use of mandatory–I’m sure he wasn’t seeing dead people)? It bothers me that he can’t take responsibility for mistakes, and that he tries to rewrite history to feed the kool-aid drinkers.

  • Lyn

    Thank you, I spent hours volunteering at school, (library, would go in and do some little crafts, read books ect) I also was a scout leader and sports coach (all for free)My Mom went up to her local school when she retired and offered to tutor kids that have trouble with reading after class, (she dodn’t have training or a uniform),
    I know that in most towns the same people vol for everything(same people are the coaches the room parents, the scout leaders the sport association board members ect) a rather small group while others like to drop kids off. The thing is I don’t WANT people to “volunteer” because they are forced too, for the most part poeple who are doing something they don’t want to are pretty miserable and ruins things for everyone around them.

    One of the things I read (In the text of the bill itself) is the students earn money toward higher education, BUT the older people can give THEIR credits to their children or grandchildren to go to college. …HELLO what if you don’t have kids or grandkids going to college, Why should the Babyboomers have to work but don’t directly benefit?
    and WHY retire if you are going to be forced to work 3 years, you might as well keep workjing and get paid for it, So that is less jobs opening up for the kids after they get out of school (or the youth camp)

  • politicalidentitycrisis

    I’m sure that right will go away soon if Obama (Hitler mini) has his way.

  • HARP
  • Lyn

    Yep he has no core values and needs the teleprompter so he doesn’t slip up and tell the truth. Look what happened when he talked to Joe the Plumber.
    For most of the campaign he avoided real press conferences or got huffy IF he was asked real questions Like I already answerred 8 questions. BUT of course the fawning Media didn’t really report any of this.
    when he DID talk without a teleprompter, he usually F**d up and either spoke the truth or was completely wrong, in which case there was the imfamous WORMs,after people would get upset by what he said. They would come out and spin it to no no you misunderstand, what he really meant. Once or twice I can see misspeaking especially in a long campaign, but almost every time he spoke there would be a WORM and IF that answer didn’t quiet people down, they would try a new WORM.
    He is a fraud. and More people see it each day.

  • elise

    Perhaps he believed the “Progressive” Caucus would catch him on Leno’s show? During the primaries, a part of this caucus, the Congressional Black Caucus threatened and/or bribed those members, especially AAs to get in line or lose the support of the Party.

    Will the government be able to force schools to include community service in it’s curriculum? Science and math classes should not include distractions of any kind. If anything, students should be encouraged to focus and enjoy these subjects.

  • ziggy

    Of course there’s RCP, which gives him an average poll approval rating of 60.8%

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

    Lest we forget, the RCP polls were pretty much dead-on in predicting the outcome of the 2008 elections.

  • Lyn

    Also what about the college students (or even high school) that HAVE to work so they can afford housing, gas for their car insurance, clothing ect. The kids that NEED to work are probably the ones that would benefit the most from the 4000 dollar grant for working, but by the time they go to school, then work (even a part time job) and “volunteer” , not to mention get some sleep, when are they supposed to do their hours of homework or study? HOW will their grades be?

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Outstanding post, LisaB – THANK YOU!!! I’m just shocked that things like the MASSIVE Americorp expansion hasn’t been reported more! (Snark) It is SHOCKING, though…

  • Brodie

    It is difficult to become a “non-traditional” teacher. It is very expensive and there are many requirements. I suspect that many highly qualified and creative people are turned off by the bureaucracy and the “closed shop” attitude. I have also been an AmeriCorps volunteer for two years. I was able to use the educational money for my student loans, but many older people can’t use that benefit at all and that seems unfair.

  • imustprotest

    OMG is the kool aid swiggin’ ziggy again. Well, at least some bots are employed…by the perpetual Obama campaign! LOL. May if this bot ziggy makes enough $$ he/she can start paying some real taxes instead of sucking off parents and pretending to be a grown up like the teleprompter in chief.

  • EWard

    James

    With all due respect, Reagan was a leader. He made unpopular decisions and stuck by his Republican ideas. Love him or hate him, people respected the man.

    In addition, Reagan served as a two-term Governor of CA at the height of the Vietnam War. It was time of massive student protest/civil unrest and Reagan met all challenges face on. He toured the country for years making speeches to groups and didn’t use a teleprompter. FYI, I never voted for Reagan but I do respect the man.

    By contrast, BO is a socialist monster creating chaos and class warfare. Acorn activists are picketing and bullying AIG executives. Acorn is the equivalent of Obama’s private Army terrorizing hard-working American citizens. His attempt to tax charities is connected to Obama’s plan for volunteer service. In other words, he wants to nationalize non-profit groups to funnel federal money to organizations that favor left-wing projects.

    Impeach Obama!

  • meileen

    right on cassie! tell it sistah.

  • Peggy Sue

    You’re absolutely right, Lyn. I worked all four years of HS and college as a kid. I came from a working class family and money was “not” thrown around willy-nilly. There were hardly enough hours in the day as it was.

    My last year at University, I took 18-hr semesters just to finish early. I could not have squeezed that + work + anything else and graduated with anything that pretended to be a decent GPA. And learning? You simply cannot learn when you’re sleep deprived.

    “So how will their grades be?”

    In the toilet!

  • candymarl

    Thanks to a document called the US Constitution we are entitled to our opinion. It was designed to protect the minority from the tryanny of the majority.

  • Lyn

    and they want to tax charities but make Newspapers NP? IF the newspapers actually did THEIR jobs the last 2 years and vetted Obama instead of cheerleading Obama while writing articles about how awful first Hillary and then Mccain were, people would still be reading them and they wouldn’t be going out of business.

  • candymarl

    Oops that is tyranny of the majority

  • James

    I respect your views. But as a liberal, I can’t stand Reagan. But I can see why people like him.

  • Ferd Berfle

    He ums, ers, and ahs WITH the teleprompter. So either TOTUS is a stammering fool or That One not only can’t speak, he can’t read well, either.

    By the way, Reagan was a better President acting the role than That One is playing at it.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I think the Obama administration is thinking something far grander is possible, and that this might be one of those “build it and they will come” situations. I’m kind of withholding judgement until I see what actually begins to develop.

    Yeah, in former times and countries it was called indoctrination or re-education camps. You can have them, bub. Do us all a favor, Credulous and get off this bog and go volunteer.

  • beachnan

    Cynic-he has lost a lot of support already. How much longer (for those who can read and think for themselves) do you believe he will be able to hold on to that majority. I believe a lot of people keep backing him, because if they admit he is not doing a good job, it will mean they were wrong in voting for him.

  • Ziggy’s Long-Suffering Mom

    Zigfield, ZIGFIELD!

    Are you bothering those nice commenters at No Quarter, again? You get off my computer before I tan your wide backside, you shiftless 25-year old bum. And while you’re at it, clean up that basement and then get in the shower. You smell like a goat. And tell those unemployed friends of yours like Skinny Malinky and SFHillary to stop hanging around here. The neighbors are starting to talk and it ain’t pretty. And your Father is about to take away your allowance, you lazy thing.

  • Ziggy’s Long-Suffering Mom

    And in times like this when the majority (the fools that voted for That One) is in need of collective intervention, we need protection from their insanity.

  • I’mFedUp

    Yipppieeee….Zippy the Pinhead is back. Hey Zippy!!! So glad you came back to spew your nonsense and lies because it’s been a long week, I’m kickin’ it with a glass of wine, and laughing my azz off at you! Thanks for being a big fat joke.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I didn’t like Reagan much either but I had respect for him. No so much for That One.

  • jangles

    I had the opportunity to have on staff AmeriCorps volunteers. Some of these were excellent workers and great support and additions we could not otherwise have employed. Some were almost unusable because their cultural, socio-economic backgrounds were such that they really did not have basic employable skill sets. What people do not understand is that an AmericCorps volunteer is not really free to the “employer”. They require staff time for basic training about your work and rules. They require practice and oversight; even when they are excellent they are still “temporary”.

    Despite these caveats I would rather see us have a “paid” volunteer program that earns the volunteer tuition and book money than have a huge student loan program that weighs the unwitting student with a huge loan burden at the end of his/her studies—a loan burden most of them do not realize will dog them for many of their young adult years. I would think seniors could benefit from Health Savings Account contributions or some other form of “tuition” that is useful to them. But NO WAY EVER should any volunteer program be mandatory. The worst thing in the world is to have a volunteer who is “made” to volunteer.

  • Diana L. C.

    Someone should have two video monitors set up, one to keep the “We Will Not Be Silenced” video showing and the other to show videos of protests at the RBC committee and of DB sitting silently listening to Hillary being called a “Witch.” Others could stand with signs of their nasty emails from DB. It really needs to be done–Damn, I with I had money.

  • TeakwoodKite

    great read!

    BO using a “teleprompter as a linguistic push-up bra”.
    Ouch!

  • Lyn

    Since they had to take Mandatory out of the GIVE ACT, since people knew it was a good way to slide in Obama’s own Hitler youth, they added a new bill HR 1444 to take care of that problem and this is even scarier. it was just writting March 11 and so far their oare only 6 co sponsor H. R. 1444

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1444
    To establish the Congressional Commission on Civic Service to study methods of improving and promoting volunteerism and national service, and for other purposes.(HELLO WHAT OTHER PURPOSES????)
    SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

    Congress finds the following:

    (1) The social fabric of the United States is stronger if individuals in the United States are committed to protecting and serving our Nation by utilizing national service and volunteerism to overcome our civic challenges.

    (2) A more engaged civic society will strengthen the Nation by bringing together people from diverse backgrounds and experiences to work on solutions to some of our Nation’s major challenges.

    (3) Despite declines in civic health in the past 30 years, national service and volunteerism among the Nation’s youth are increasing, and existing national service and volunteer programs greatly enhance opportunities for youth to engage in civic activity.

    (4) In addition to the benefits received by nonprofit organizations and society as a whole, volunteering and national service provide a variety of personal benefits and satisfaction and can lead to new paths of civic engagement, responsibility, and upward mobility.

    (b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:

    (I’M JUST GOING TO PUT A COUPLE )
    (4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.

    (5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if ALL INDIVIDUALS in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

    (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable MANDATORY service requirement for ALL able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

    (7) The need for a public service academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders.

    … and
    (12) Whether current Federal volunteer programs are suited to address the special skills and needs of SENIOR volunteers, and if not, how these programs can be improved such that the Federal government can effectively promote service among the ‘baby boomer’ generation.
    …..

  • Ani

    Kathy — yours is the best analysis I have seen of his speaking style. This is exactly why his speech is so halting — crafty with language — never allowing himself to be pinned down.

    And truly, when you know what your convictions are and know the issues inside and out, the words come “trippingly off the tongue.” No need to take your own pulse every two syllables.

  • WhatNow

    We still have time to voice our opinions. The senate voted on this bill on Thursday and the bill was sent back to the House. BTW John McCain voted AYE for this bill. We need to let our congressional leadership and anyone esle know that this bill needs to be modified.

    I noticed that the GIVE (Volunteer) Bill passed in the senate. I started reading the bill and got to page 76 out of 310 before I just couldn’t believe what I was reading. Doesn’t anyone in Congress or the media read the bills that are passing fast and furious????????

    Using High School Dropouts , disadvantage Hispanic Youth, Juvenial Delinquents to teach PE at elementary schools? These same PE Volunteers mentoring children in before and after school educational programs on how to be a volunteer, the PE volunteers will also be mentoring obese children (sounds like hazzing to me for being fat). Children who do not participate in the volunteer education classes will go to Youth Enhancement Zones? What is that?

    Procedures on how scientific studies and experiments are to be followed? Why is that in a volunteer bill?

    There is much more that’s just unbelievable.

  • Lyn

    The way I read it was the SENIORs and BABY BOOMERS will be the ones having to vol to work with the High School Dropouts , disadvantage Hispanic Youth, Juvenial Delinquents. the retired people will also be the ones that have to give up their afternoons and weekends off to mentor children in before and after school educational programs on how to be a volunteer.

    Youth Enhancement Zones? What is that? I think that is the room where you are harrased or brainwashed until you “volunteer”

    I do NOT know why all the MSM , the Republicans and more of the sane blogs aren’t screaming about this and the HR1444 bill I just posted above that want to build 4 year publice service “academies”.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I do NOT know why all the MSM , the Republicans and more of the sane blogs aren’t screaming about this and the HR1444 bill I just posted above that want to build 4 year publice service “academies”.

    Yeah, “service academies” is a euphemistic phrase for Indoctrination and Re-education Camp(use)s.

    Youth Enhancement Zones?

    That’s where you get to read all about That One, gaze upon his holy likeness, and get hooked up to the collective. Resistance is futile.

    I think I’m going to be ill.

  • Cubs in 09

    …federally funded community service job[s] increasing from 75,000 to 250,000 at a cost of $5.7 billion.

    If I read this right, that’s $5.7 billion/250,000 jobs = $22,800 per year.

    That could sway a lot of otherwise unemployed to join the 0′bot 0′Nation…

    Or am I way off? :shock:

  • imustprotest

    ROFLMAO at this thread!! :)

  • Cubs in 09

    …a couple of note cards…

    Yes! With all the billions, trillions, and quadrillions of dollars flying around, no one would fault That 0ne for having some figures and stats on note cards or Post-Its (my preference)—even if the goobermint numbers were lies. :mrgreen:

  • Ferd Berfle

    Zippy, you’re not much of a sniper troll when all you have are blanks.

    LMAO at the corpulent cartoon character.

  • Lyn

    Well alot of that money goes to the administrators, running the programs, uniforms, camps ect

  • http://makethemaccountable.com Carolyn Kay

    Hillary doesn’t need a teleprompter.

    Nor does Bill.

    Nor does Chelsea, even.

    Because they care. Because they’re actually engaged in the process and the issues.

    Obama is playing at being president.

    Just like his predecessor.

    Carolyn Kay
    MakeThemAccountable.com

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