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Catholics and Notre Dame WAKE UP!!! It’s Not Just Life … It’s Father Pfleger and God Damn America

By Francesca on March 31, 2009 at 1:00 AM in Abortion, Barack Obama, Chicago, Father Michael Pfleger, Indiana, Obama's Thugs, Race Card, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

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A US Cardinal and several Bishops denounce the University of Notre Dame for inviting Barack Obama to deliver a speech at their commencement ceremonies. They are also pissed off about the Honorary Law Degree to be given to Barack “God Damn AmeriKKKa” Obama. A lot of Catholics are pissed of too, and over 210,000 of them signed a petition denouncing University of Notre Dame. For the Bishops, Cardinals and many Catholics the problem is Obama’s stance on LIFE:

US Cardinal DiNardo, Archbishop of Galveston-Houston:

“Though I can understand the desire by a university to have the prestige of a commencement address by the President of the United States, the fundamental moral issue of the inestimable worth of the human person from conception to natural death is a principle that soaks all our lives as Catholics, and all our efforts at formation, especially education at Catholic places of higher learning.”

Texas Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin:

“it is very clear that in this case the University of Notre Dame does not live up to its Catholic identity in giving this award and their leadership needs our prayerful support.”

Indiana Bishop John D’Arcy of Fort Wayne-South Bend:

This will be the 25th Notre Dame graduation during my time as bishop. After much prayer, I have decided not to attend the graduation. I wish no disrespect to our president, I pray for him and wish him well. I have always revered the Office of the Presidency. But a bishop must teach the Catholic faith “in season and out of season,” and he teaches not only by his words — but by his actions.

My decision is not an attack on anyone, but is in defense of the truth about human life.

Arizona Bishop Thomas Olmsted of Phoenix:

“I am saddened and heavy of heart about your decision to invite President Obama to speak at Notre Dame University and even to receive an honorary degree,” began Bishop Olmsted.

But the prelate went further, charging that Fr. John Jenkins, the university’s president, has committed “a public act of disobedience to the Bishops of the United States” by inviting Obama to the May 17 Commencement.

These are fighting words. But the Cardinal and the Bishops miss the point. It’s not just life that is the issue here. It is also about fake Catholic Father Pfleger. Allowing Obama to speak at Notre Dame grants this trash credibility:

Cardinal DiNardo needs to reread his statement.

Particularly troubling is the Honorary Law Degree since it recognizes that the person is a ‘Teacher,’ in this case of the Law. I think that this decision requires charitable but vigorous critique.

Obama’s more than a teacher of law and of abortion. Friends with Father Pfleger, who Obama called a friend and an advisor, Obama is a teacher of hate.

The 2004 Sun-Times article noted that “friends and advisers” such as Pfleger, “who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep his (moral) compass, he (Obama) says.” Based on Pfleger’s remarks, either he or Obama, or both, have, uh, lost their bearings.

Pfleger has had a working relationship with Obama since the late 1980s. As noted, he was one of Obama’s spiritual mentors. Between 1995 and 2001, Pfleger contributed a total of $1,500 to Obama’s various political campaigns.

Giving Obama a free degree and letting him speak is to accept the hate of Father Pfleger, who mentored Barack Obama. I am sure all those rich white Irish, Italian, Polish and Lithuanian kids from the suburbs of Chicago who work hard to pay money to attend the Catholic college mommy and daddy attended will want to sit and listen to a guy whose mentor said all white people are responsible for slavery and racism. I am sure all those rich white Catholics who will get a job in daddy’s business or with daddy’s friends from the old parish want to hear a man whose mentor said all of them are responsible for white privilege. I don’t think people go to a Notre Dame graduation to be told they are all white people who feel entitled.

That is what Notre Dame wants. Not just God Damn AmeriKKKa but also BLAME WHITEY and HATE WHITEY. Inviting Barack Obama to speak is inviting Father Pfleger and Reverend Wright to Notre Dame. Not a good move.

This is more about life. This is about ignorance and hate. The Cardinals and Bishops need to wrap their heads around that. If they don’t say anything about Obama and Pfleger, we’ll just assume the Cardinals and Bishops and the whole Catholic Church agrees with Pfleger and Obama and the God Damn AmeriKKKa Church both of them went to. That’s not the direction I think Catholics and Notre Dame want to go.

I’mFedUp

My father went to Notre Dame and Notre Dame Law School. He would be appalled by Reverend God Damn America and PFleger, but more than that he would puke to see the Fraud at his school. My father was an active member in the ND Alumni Association until the day he died, and he remembered them generously in his will. No way would he want that moron Obama hanging around his Alma Mater.

By the way, it’s not a school of rich white entitled people. My father was first generation Italian American, and his parents came over on a boat from Sicily. They worked their azzes off to put my father through school, and he worked his azz off too. He went to Notre Dame at 15, Notre Dame Law School at 19 and graduated at the top of his class. All of that was hard work, not entitlement.

lorac

My grandfathers were like that, too. It’s a European thing, I think.

Maybe that’s why America has always prided itself on hard work and independence, coming from European ancestors.

I think our country’s values have been diluted somehow.

Ellen D

I’m not Catholic and have no opinions on what the Bishops find acceptable or unacceptable at Notre Dame but it is time for ALL CHURCHES to come out strongly against the usury being peddled as “business as usual” by the bank credit cards. In the case of the Catholic church there is no excuse for them to be ignoring the havoc being created in the Hispanic community by Payday loan shops. This situation is immoral and disgusting. Where are all the Christian leaders on this?

Magic Puzzle Box

I think usury was downgraded as a sin after a big debate about what the Bible actually said about it a few hundred years ago. I guess they aren’t in a position to go back and do that all over again.

WhatNow

Who at Notre Dame asked him to come to the commencement and WHY? I’m not Catholic but, he stands against everything Catholic. Is this penance for something they did?

Magic Puzzle Box

No. There’s just been a big battle brewing over Catholic colleges and towing the church line for over a decade. I forget off-hand the document they released on mandatums for professors and the like. There has been talk of stripping some of the universities of the name Catholic over this sort of thing.

Diana

Why does this article keep disappearing?

I’m Catholic and I was waiting for the backlash to begin for this. Especially after what has gone on with Pelosi and Biden with both of them being Catholic. I’d like to know the same thing as WhatNow.
Peggy Sue

It’s my understanding the graduation class wanted President Obama as a speaker. Look, I don’t like the man or his policies, but it’s an undeniable coup to have the President of the United States speak at your commencement ceremony. And though I’m still surprised, having been raised in an Irish Catholic family, that the Catholic community supported this man with 44% of the GE vote [more than voted for Kerry, who is a Catholic], the decision is up to them.

I don’t get it. But the youth vote supported Barack Obama overwhelmingly. I hope given enough time, the young, who will ultimately be paying for this lunacy, come to their senses.

As far as the Church itself, there’s the teaching and then there’s what people actually practice and believe. Despite the Pope’s dictate, it’s not monolithic in actual practice. Particularly in the States.

So for conservative Catholics, of course, they will oppose this, rightly so.

For the moderates to liberal? Not so much.

Diana

Thank you. I hadn’t heard who invited him. I was just waiting for the backlash to begin. I’m kinda surprised it’s all beginning now. I thought I’d read he was going to be speaking more than a month ago.
Mandelay

You are so clear on this, Peggy Sue. Very good and very valid points. I am also a Catholic (my grandparents came to NYC from Italy). You are on the money when you say:

“As far as the Church itself, there’s the teaching and then there’s what people actually practice and believe. Despite the Pope’s dictate, it’s not monolithic in actual practice. Particularly in the States.”

Catholics in the US, the politically moderate-to-liberal tagged “Cafeteria Catholics” by the Church, are as divided as the politics in our country. The more liberal are at odds with Church teaching on birth control and abortion. But, unlike the politically conservative, the more liberal Catholics are quite united with the Church leaders on the issue of immigration, including protection of legal and illegal immigrant population and benefits (health/housing/education/compensation, etc.) for same.
SoCalDem

I think you are deluded, there are no degrees of Catholics. Its not like a political party. You are either a practicing Catholic or your not, there is no in between. That rogue priest should be excommunicated. As for Pelosi, I pray for her soul, she is twisted like a pretzel, she believes she speaks for Catholics, and that the Church has come around about abortion. In her dreams, the Pope explained it to her so she would stop lying on her soapbox.

I’mFedUp

He’s not the “President” legally in most rational people’s opinions. Who wants him? Not a college with integrity

Ellen

He’s not the president legally in most rational peoples’ opinions? you are really nuts and quite wrong on this. He most certainly is a legal President in everyones’ eyes but your own, which must be blind.

None of those protesting Obama’s commencement speech at Notre Dame are from Notre Dame – did you notice? So what business is it of the outsiders to condemn what Notre Dame does? what hypocrites indeed! It’s disgusting and, frankly, with Notre Dame’s reputation, I don’t know why Obama would even consider it an honor to speak there – yukkkk! Totally over-rated conservative, football-obsessed student body with very little academic credibility.

I’mFedUp

Get lost Smellen the Troll…He sure as hell is NOT the “President” in the mind of anyone with an IQ over 50. Fine, troll, 0Zero can stay home. No need to further trash people of repute in this country. What a bust you are.
I’mFedUp

PS My father went to Notre Dame because he had a brain. He wasn’t some affirmative action experiment, funded by radical, Islamic America hating terrorists like Obama. Oh, yeah, where are those pesky grades and those papers the affirmative action President never wrote for the Harvard Law Review. Smellen, you’re as dumb as a box of rocks.

Peggy Sue

I’m Fed Up said:

“He wasn’t some affirmative action experiment, funded by radical, Islamic America hating terrorists like Obama.”

You’re beginning to sound unhinged. I don’t like Barack Obama for a number of reasons. But spew like this makes us all look like maniacs.

Tone it down!

AOK

Too late. I’mFedUp’s mind left the building prior to the election. Ellen summed it up best. No amount of reasonable discussion will bring him or her back. Also, he or she is highly entertaining, so please let him, her or it continue to do it’s thing.
Lyn

What part are you saying isn’t true? Altho she did miss he also got into Harvard because he dad went there.

tminu

Obama admits he is a usurper.
Cosponsoring S.R. 511 he acknowledges that a natural born citizen is a child of two US Citizen parents born on US soil.
He even acknowledges he’s an ineligible illegal usurper, as should you Ellen.

AOK

Link please.

Chris

Wow did they reject your application or something? Talk about bitter and not recognizing the meaning of things. Look up the words values and ethics. You OBOTS have forgotten, or never knew, what the definitions of those words are. Good luck with your life. Your gonna need it.

Peggy Sue

Barack Obama is the President of the United States, whether you or I like it or not. Period.

And if the students of the Class of 2009 want him as the commencement speaker? That’s their choice. Period.

This is a sideshow, another distraction. There are plenty of other things to worry about than who is apeaking at Notre Dame.

And for the Class of 2009? I guarantee you–they’re thrilled.

I’mFedUp

He’s not the President, and the kids at Notre Dame are of a different breed. They’re not thrilled.

Peggy Sue

No, they’re not a different breed. They’re just kids with a lot of growing up to do. They’ll learn soon enough. The way we all do.

I’mFedUp

Yes, they are a different breed. Some people grow up with morals and integrity and don’t lose those values just because someone tells them that it’s groovy to vote for a loser who will give you a free house.

http://www.marklevinshow.com Seattle Moss

Good Evening Fed Up,

to vote for a loser who will give you a free house.

I have seen some of these houses. I don’t think the obots were expecting tents.

I’mFedUp

Hello Seattle Handsome,

I’m leaving. After the announcement of the North Korea missile launch…y’all are on your own. Funny but isn’t that the same time the slimeball Fraud will be in the UK? GIRD YOUR LOINS.

http://www.marklevinshow.com Seattle Moss

Are you saying goodbye to all of us?

I’mFedUp

Are you serious about staying here in American after that North Korea nonsense? We’re too close to Hawaii not to worry about it.

http://www.marklevinshow.com Seattle Moss

I’m not worried about N Korea. Two bit losers that threaten the world so they can get more food welfare.
I hope the Jap’s shoot down their weapon of mass distraction.
I’mFedUp

They already said that anyone who messes with that missile is in deep desert doo dah. I would prefer not to breath in nuclear dust. They are launching between April 4 and April 8. Costa Rica vacation time.
http://www.marklevinshow.com Seattle Moss

I would tell the N Koreans

Make my day!

We need a good excuse to use up military equipment
I’mFedUp

Liberals love terrorists and would give them graham crackers and juice if they would just once and for all destroy American for them. Liberals would watch Al Queda terrorists murder American babies and then prosecute any American who held them accountable. Liberals would release the murdering scum from prison, give them some more food, a free home, and make sure that no law enforcement agency went near holding them accountable. Liberals want American babies dead. Period.
AOK

I’mFedUp, please don’t go. If you do, I’ll have no one to ridicule.

tminu

Peggy, POTUS is defined by the Constitution. Barky admits he’s an ineligible installed usurper via his admission of the definition of “Natural Born Citizen” (jus soli jus sanguinus – BOTH parents US citizens)
So since he knows, you really should stop denying that he’s anything but an illegal puppet. He has no problem with that himself.

Peggy Sue

tminu, we all watched the inauguration. Barack Obama took the oath, delivered ala stumbles by Justice Roberts. Whether his BC is valid or not, he’s what we’re stuck with. I don’t like it. You don’t like it. But this is was we have in the real world, circa March 31, 2009.

There is no other POTUS [except perhaps in an alternate universe]. We don’t have to agree with him or the lunatic policies. We can protest, demonstrate and do whatever is required as the American-first opposition.

But pretending that Barack Obama is “not” the president slides into the fringe and makes us all sound like maniacs. If we’re going to fight this, we need to keep our heads. Not go off half-cocked.

For better or worse, right now Barack Obama is the President of the United States. We have to admit the problem before we can solve it.

tminu

I do not, because I am a very logical person, consider him POTUS. This is a hoax of colossal proportions, but the size of the hoax does not negate that it is nevertheless, a hoax.

AOK

timinu, logical people wouldn’t make bold accusations without the proof to back them up. I keep asking, yet no one has proved that President Obama’s election and presidency are not legit. You can repeat this nonsense as much as you like, but it doesn’t change that fact. None of you people have posted any evidence to support these inane charges. Whatever makes you feel better about the situation I guess…

Diana

It appears there are students protesting. I found this:
http://tinyurl.com/cnthra

JozefAL

Before these Catholic leaders who are so outraged at the Obama invite spoke out, perhaps they should have explained their positions on the LIVES of all the people who’ve been killed during Bush’s little illegal invasion of Iraq. It’s fine and dandy to oppose abortion but if you’re not willing to hold an anti-abortion President’s feet to the fire over the thousands of lives that HE is responsible for ending, then you lose the “moral authority” to criticize another President over his viewpoints.
I’m quite tired of these pedophilia-enabling priests and bishops getting on their fucking high horses on the abortion issue. When one of these pieces of self-righteous slime gets pregnant, then their fucking opinion will hold some water. The whole fucking Catholic Church has NO business discussing abortion. Read the Bible. You’ll discover that there is NOTHING pertaining to abortion anywhere in that book. Furthermore, according to the Bible, life did NOT begin at conception. A woman was not considered “with child” until the “quickening” (that is, when the baby kicks for the first time). There was far too much that could go wrong with pregnancy, especially in the first two months (in point of fact, the Bible doesn’t mention any pregnancy that ended in anything other than a live birth–you may ask why, but the simple fact is stillbirths were of no importance).
Let these fucking celibate pedophiles spend some time dealing with the conditiions that so many LIVING CHILDREN have to deal with–poverty, parental neglect, child abuse–and worry a bit less about abortions.
These priests and bishops are nothing but the same type of hypocrites that Jesus so rightly attacked.

tminu

Some homosexual pedophiles infiltrated the priesthood; wrongs were righted, payments made, and filters installed to prevent it ever happening again.

And who protested the screening of priests? Gay rights activists.

http://www.marklevinshow.com Seattle Moss

Tminu,
Jozef obviously has issues with Catholics. I find it rather offensive and rather immature that he cast all priests in the same lite as some pedofiles. As Iraq becomes the great success people like Josee and others will continue to look like the global fools and wimps and wussies that they have shown all of us.
As a leader of my catholic church I can tell you that the priests and the parish do wonderful works in the community and try to the best of their abilities to live up to the churches teachings.
I attend two denominations. The catholic church is more conservative and I feel especially at home since I know that most of my fellow parishiners listened to me during the campaign and voted against Obama
The other church is a liberal church in my neighborhood that overwhelmingly voted for Obama despite my best efforts. The folks labeled me a a racist warmonger.
I have since stopped going to the obot church.

Peggy Sue

Well said, Seattle!
Mandelay

Brava, Seattle!
tminu

If anything the Catholic church was badgered for its stance against approving homosexuality,not as if it extended some welcome mat to homosexual pedophiles.
How did they accumulate there and perpetrate their deeds? I don’t understand this. I do not approve of the initial “head in the sand” take the church had, but now it’s been addressed (and then some).
The issue has been used as a clobbering iron for the church ever since, until it’s become an ingrained Michael Jackson joke, so it did enormous damages.
If the background of the way in which these perpetrators funneled into the church becomes better known, it will blow the lid off of the real crux of this scandal.
More light, more truth…not less!
tminu

Seattle: The ONE issue which left bot acquaintances agape and mum was how Obama helped incite genocide in Kenya by campaigning for and counseling Odinga-The-Monster, on a taxpayer paid trip and later on the campaign trail.”Spin that” They fancy themselves superior altruists, the Christians burned alive in churches and hacked with machetes, all of which Obama was forewarned would happen should Odinga lose, shows his knowing complicit culpability ahead of time. Then as Odinga WAS losing, he counseled him by phone on upping the genocide ante to get his way–shared power with Kibaki. He would need a friend in power in Kenya for his little BC problem.

Diana

I don’t believe for one second pedophiles discriminate as to which portion of society they will infiltrate. They’re not all Catholic. Nor can anyone claim a majority of Catholic Priests are Pedophiles when you consider the number of Catholic Priests there are in the world. Be it religious or non religious. They go to where they will have easy access to children. They’ve found pedophiles in every religion. Pedophiles with no religious beliefs.

http://helpmejoseph.typepad.com/puma_for_life/ Puma for Life

Actually, the Catholic church strongly opposed the war in Iraq and the Pope publicly spoke out on this and basically begged the US not to start it.

I am not a practicing Catholic, but I am a baptized one and was raised Catholic. I have a lot of problems with the Catholic church, mainly the patriarcy and the treatment of women, but they are consistent in their pro-life stand, for example, they are opposed to capital punishement (as well as against the war(s).

I am appalled that Notre Dame would invite Obama; they did not invite Bill Clinton. And, yes there are alumni who are strongly protesting this action. So, no, it is not just outsiders.

I consider Obama completely amoral; no morals at all and he has no business being invited to a Catholic or any other religious college campus. He has the gall to accept.

http://helpmejoseph.typepad.com/puma_for_life/ Puma for Life

I meant to say , I consider Obama completely amoral (non moral).

Mercedes

Has anybody out there ever heard of the late Malachi Martin? He was a former Jesuit who worked in the Vatican during the Vatican Council. He wrote a novel, “Windswept House” that spelled out the scandals in the church in fictional form 6 or 7 years before they erupted publically. He was also a conspiracy theorist who had much to say about how the Catholic Church has been infiltrated and deliberately corrupted by New World Order heathens. To control the world politically, these people have to neutralize, or co-opt, or eliminate the power of organized religion, the Catholic Church certainly not the least of it. Obama and his puppeteers are working very hard to do this and they are being enabled by a bunch of fools or inplants within organized religion. Watch closely. Think about it.

Magic Puzzle Box

There have always been a lot of claims of deliberate infiltration into the churches, and you see the effects of that with the Orthodox church under Communism, which was considered totally corrupted by the Soviets. Given the status and influence of the churches, it only makes sense they should be targeted.

And back to usury for a moment, you want it revisited? If you like the results of downgrading it, perhaps you should also reconsider the need to downgrade homosexuality, because the arguments are similar as far as I know.

Tuppence411

There are two issues going on here. First, the Bishops have their eyes on Barky. And in my opinion rightly so. During the campaign he specifically targeted Catholics and crossed a line between politics and preaching. Well orchestrated, well funded. Using all the appropriate rhetoric, he presented an alternative “catechism” to the Bishops teaching. Of course they have their guard up and watching him like a hawk. Barky just lucky it’s the 21st century and shouts of heretic and burning stakes are no longer in vogue.

Second, Catholic Universities, like most secular institutions, have shifted to an extrememly left mind-set. The Bishops are pushing back on that front as well. If the Jesuits want to run Harvard 2 out of the Mid-west, that’s cool. Just don’t call yourself a Catholic University.
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Alex

Why do people call adult college men and women “kids”?
“Kids” are 16 years of age and below. Anything older than that is NOT a “kid”. It amazes me to see grown college students referring to themselves as “kids” when they are over 18 years old. Half the population at Cal State (where I attend) is 25 and over.
Anyway, Mr. Obama continues to get all the passes that anyone could dream of. Now people who are offended by this choice (SO WHAT if he is the chief executive of this country!) will be painted as wrong and unfair. They have every right to protest and be disdainful of this selection.
DaddysDarlin

As a practicing Catholic I am appalled that Notre Dame will even allow Obama to set foot on their campus.
His views on abortion and life are not consistent with the Catholic faith, and he should not be allowed to speak and certainly not receive any kind of award or recognition from the church or a school that represents the church and its views.
DaddysDarlin

I signed the petition 223,607. I ask even those who are not Catholic to please show your support and sign the petition.
Thanks, and God Bless.
Cixelsyd

As an ND alum, I would ask that you not cherry pick the priests you choose to quote:

“No speaker who has ever come to Notre Dame has changed this University. We are who we are. But, quite often, the very fact of being here has changed the speaker.”

- Fr. Hesburgh, speaking about the Obama visit on 3/20/09

I’d put Fr. Hesburgh up against ANY priest in this country.