Moving Oratory

Check out the kind of speech The Magic Man will never give. Don’t have the balls for it.

‘I will fight for what I believe; never doubt it!’

I’m sick and tired of hearing the frikin’ Oborg go on about what a great speaker Senator SnakeOil is.

He’s got a command of the rhetorical toolkit but he is at best only average.

Doubt me?

Fire up YouTube and open your mind.

May 4, 1974, Jimmy Carter gave a Law Day address that, well, addressed the issue of civil justice for all better than any Harvard Law or Yale Law grad will ever approach.

Just in case your reading list omits either Hunter Thompson OR Jimmy Carter:

Scratchy, scanned .pdf: http://jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/law.pdf

Retyped:
http://www.narsil.org/politics/carter/law_day.html

Senator Hope-a-Dope couldn’t carry a real Democrat’s shoes. Or luggage.

I’m so glad someone else sees just how average he is.

Maybe because I’ve heard some of the best. But Obama gets at best a B- from me.

And that so-called great race speech. He gets a C and a C- for delivery.

Why?

He did not confront the dilemma facing him as a biracial person. In fact, he threw his white side of the family under the bus. Everything he is today, his success, comes from the sacrifices his mother and grandparents made to provide him with the best education. For those who are impressed with his personal style, his manner, his nature, that was not spawned of AA mother’s milk. And I’m making an historically accurate statement here, not a subjective one. And I’m pointing that out because we all have seen how historically accurate statements have been labeled racist during this campaign. Anyway, I’m AA, so I can say this.

Actually speaking the AA community cannot claim this man’s success because we had no part in forming it. PERIOD!

It’s a truth the AA community is in denial about, but it is in fact the whole truth. Obama is black by virtue of that old racist ‘one drop’ rule. The only exposure he has had to AA culture has been at that church and with his wife’s family. After all Hawaii is not noted for having a substantiall AA community. And it doesn’t appear that he made any kind of significant liaisons with AAs while at Columbia, a stone’s throw from the most noted AA community in the world: Harlem.

This not about whether his is black enough. This is about wondering why he never openly embraces his white heritage, which he certainly had more exposure to.

Why, indeed???

JFK was definitely the fighter so few today understand. He was a real Democrat standing up for Democratic values because our values are American values. Folks today either forget, are too young, are politically naive or just so enamored of this Obama fella to have the good sense to research history.

I remember both of those sad days. And I agree that Bobby Kennedy spoke from the heart with a simple elegance that I have yet to see rivaled since. The only person speaking off the cuff that has come anywhere near him in my opinion has been Bill Clinton.

Another GREAT Democratic speech by another fine American:

Mario Cuomo at the 1984 Democratic Convention

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOdIqKsv624

Actually speaking the AA community cannot claim this man’s success because we had no part in forming it. PERIOD!

Wow! Strong words. I would love to read an entire diary from you on this subject.

Thanks for the link to the Carter speech, what a brilliant mind he has and what a wonderful speech. I seriously doubt that BO could even come close to making a speech this significant in it’s content and speaking so eloquently for social justice. I was barely voting age and remember crying the night that he lost to Reagan.

To me BO is all fluff and no substance.

THANK YOU for the link to former Senator Dale Bumper’s speech during Clinton’s impeachment trial. Had never read it before. It IS truly masterful and very moving – I was decidedly teary at some points.

And, yes, Robert Kennedy, the quiet, sensitive but steely one. He was my hero, the one I instinctively trusted of all the Kennedys. I remember seeing this on TV all those years ago. I thought him magnificent, and so brave to personally deliver the news of Doctor King’s assassination to those followers who loved him deeply.

I’m afraid I’m one of the cynical doubters when it comes to Obama. After watching him condescend to the black community and cockily expect these folks to close ranks against all critics every time his character or experience came into question, I thought this last speech was just one more ploy to cast the heat in another direction. And naturally, the Wright affair became Hillary Clinton’s ‘problem’ in no time at all, and one which she somehow is being held responsible for. Who remembers all the Obama side stepping and plain manipulation of the truth that caused us to have misgivings about his judgment in the first place? We have Hillary to hate.

I grew up in Arkansas, where we had a string of powerful and brilliant senators, Bumpers being the last of them. He was a popular governor, a friendly man, and had a way with words that’s not found among senators today — and Obama’s stilting, teleprompter reading is [b]not[/b] elegant, unless you have no sense of Senate history.

At this point in American history, it’s time we decoupled sex from politics. The only people having more of it are the televangelists, it seems!

mimi,

Reading your other comments, is it fair to say Obama’s camp feels it’s standing with the AA community would be harmed if photos of his mother were to surface, as she was Anglo?

That is very interesting.

And naturally, the Wright affair became Hillary Clinton’s ‘problem’ in no time at all, and one which she somehow is being held responsible for.

I disagree.

Clinton isn’t one to play the victim, even within her own house.

Unlike Michelle, and the bamster.

That was said tongue in cheek and with some irony, Simon. I know Hillary doesn’t play victim. God, the woman’s a marvel in the way she can keep going despite all the hateful commentary.

I read a copy of that speech, and when a mutual friend called and told me he was running for POTUS, I signed up. Walked all over Harrisburg, beating on doors. Co-ordinated for him in SW Florida (where true Democrats are thin on the ground), had The Gov to dinner with a bunch of FL pols my dad knew, talked my lumber suppliers out of materials for big signs and sticks for small yard signs. Had my Helpers and Laborers plant yard signs for three days.Jack Carter used my pickup/office, complete with mobile phone, for a week.

Shucks, we even got Cubans to vote for him in my county!

Wish I’d asked JC to appoint me to the Marshals’ Service, but money was flowing in the business so I waited too long.

George Hideous Wanker Bush and his CIA buddies (may they each and every one rot in hell) fucked him, dealing with Iran through the back channel.

Not likely to see his kind in my life, again.

One thing you never hear in any speech from any great speech giver in American politics which truly made them remarkable speeches is that they had a focus! From MLK to JFK and all others they stayed on the subject and never deviated or injected in any way something which is a continual in Obama’s speeches, even the one saving his ass last week!

Obama plugs his books, openly at times of sublimianally at times, but always the same!

In his speech on Race, there was no need to inject the plug for his book! The sly way it was injected into the speech was for those who wanted more, go buy the booK!

Who would have taken MLK seriously if he said in his speech in Washington “In my book Dreams I stated” “Ihave a Dream”?

Who would have taken JFK seriously if he said in any of his speechs he said “In my book XXXXX” “It isn’t what America can do for me, it is what I can do for America”?

Yet since and including in the 2004 DNP convention Obama has injected his books in some way into his speeches! This is so cheezy a self promoting way it is disgusting! Yet no meida type has picked up on it because no one wants to admit they’ve been fooled or conned, that is a fact of life! Yet Obama fools and cons everyone every time he opens his mouth, so he can line his pockets with American peoples green! Amazing how all the fre publicity is adding to Obama’s greed while he tears the country apart on the Audacity of Dopes!

Does anyone know that Obama is reading a teleprompter? This is why he looks like he’s talking off the cuff. Brother!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m sick of all this crap with Obama. It’s not time for a black president. They hate whites and sorry, but we are the majority. Let’s wait until the blacks are the majority before we elect one for president. Obama will not represent the white race. He has proven himself by not throwing out the most white hating minister out there. Even condoning his actions. They must be his own thoughts, otherwise, he would have walked out with those little girls that was hearing the rhetoric being spouted . What a crazy America we live in nowadays. White america is losing their minds. Just to be politically correct. You fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It could be too late for this country. Not because of the blacks but because of you stupid idiotic white fools trying to look like you’re not racist.

I did not hear Obama’s speech when he gave it. Instead, I heard clips played on MSNBC while Chris Matthews and the rest of the Obama sycophants compared the speech to MLK’s “I have a dream!” Then, I watched the speech in its entirety, and it was a masterful piece of political stagecraft, but comparable to MLK? NO WAY! One thing that occurred to me when I was listening to a re-broadcase of Hardball after hearing the whole Obama speech is that these SAME fools were praising the speech that the chimp gave to a joint session of Congress following 9/11. Well, it only took the moron (Bush) NINE DAYS to come up with a speech!

Perhaps I am the ONLY person here who actually BLAMED the chimp for 9/11 because he was an incompetent, arrogant fool who refused to listen to anyone! Besides, with the moron-in-chief pulling out of almost every multilateral treaty we ever signed, it seemed to me that the jerk was spoiling for a fight with someone. After all, what better way to enrich himself and his corporate buddies than by diverting attention to another “boogey man”? And do not even get me started on that “deer-caught-in-the-headlights” look on Bush’s face when he FINALLY resurfaced on 9/11 after flying all over kingdom come! (BTW, I am NOT saying that Bush had anything to do with “causing” 9/11–I am just saying that he ignored all the warnings from Sandy Berger to Richard Clarke and George Tenet. I will NEVER believe that 9/11 was not preventable with someone competent in the White House!)

But alas, I digress. My point is that the SAME media morons that were bowing down and kissing Bush’s behind following a speech that took him NINE DAYS to come up with are the SAME fools that were doing all the cheerleading for Obama’s speech. What those MEN failed to notice is the way that Obama equated ONE comment made by Geraldine Ferraro to all those crackpot racist rants of Jeremiah Wright!

I am truly amazed when I hear these SAME pundits compare Obama to JFK, MLK, or any of the other great orators. Bobby Kennedy was one of my favorites because he really inspired my generation. MLK is another one–I STILL get teary-eyed when I listen to any of his speeches. And Dale Bumpers, although not the master of oratory that some of these others were, his passionate defense of Bill Clinton was a sight to behold–particularly since I had never really thought that much of his speeches before then. Exactly how these self-appointed arbiters of the electoral process can actually get on TV and spout such nonsense, I will NEVER understand!

I recall reading a comment after one of Frank Rich’s more incendiary columns with a reader saying something to the effect that Rich, Matthews, and the other self-appointed authorities on politics would sit around and laugh about how they got this incompetent, first-term black senator elected president by pumping him up, just the way they must have been laughing after pumping up that imbecile that we are stuck with now back in 2000. Sad, but true.

It IS scary just how much power these media elites seem to have over public opinion–not so much because people are “stupid” but because most people do not have the time or energy to read and figure out for themselves what is really going on!

StaBabe…Glad you got that off yur Mind..Good Rant..
I Liked it..and got a Laugh out of your
choice use of language..Thanks.

Good Nite..

Actually, even Ronald Reagan had better delivery than Barack Obama. I loathed Reagan because I will NEVER forget that the bastard launched his presidential campaign from Philadelphia, Mississippi, home of Mississippi Burning, by stating that he stood firmly behind states’ rights, a not-so-veiled reference to support for segregation! And I cannot forgive Reagan for working overtime to bust unions and demonize poor people. But I must admit that Reagan knew how to deliver a speech.

Yeah–Give me liberty or give me death! Aren’t those your words? Thanks for appreciating my sarcasm.

I honestly wished that I did not have such a long memory since my loathing for the chimp started BEFORE 9/11, and afterwards, the weasel did little to convince me that he was competent–particularly with Cheney getting on Meet the Press two weeks later and proclaiming how important it was to revive “Star Wars”–that crazy missile defense pipe dream. We get attacked with assymetric warfare on 9/11 where missile defense, even if it DID work (and it doesn’t!), would not have helped one iota, and what do these idiots in the administration do? They go on TV to tell the American public that the most urgent thing for our defense against terrorism is an expensive missile defense program that doesn’t work and would not have helped on 9/11, if it DID work! And the media morons that are applauding Obama now are the SAME fools that said precious little back then!

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