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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1171205</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same to you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same to you <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1171115</link>
		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a conservative, but rather an FDR/Clinton Dem -- although I&#039;ve left the Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a conservative, but rather an FDR/Clinton Dem &#8212; although I&#8217;ve left the Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Track-A-'Crat</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1171052</link>
		<dc:creator>Track-A-'Crat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And TeakwoodKite, thank you, good to meet you last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And TeakwoodKite, thank you, good to meet you last night.</p>
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		<title>By: Track-A-'Crat</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1171051</link>
		<dc:creator>Track-A-'Crat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred,

Barry Goldwater conservatives are fine by me - conservatism would be in better shape if there more such supporters.


JozefAL, 

Strange that you have such a strong reaction to something you supposedly don&#039;t care about.  

Dismissing religion entirely, which you seem to do, is the product of a narrow mind.

And please tell me what is wrong about Christians sending Bibles to countries behind the Iron Curtain?  Was life there so wonderful that people needed no comfort or hope? 

And the focus of this post is not even religion - it is the grossly unfair and discriminatory compensation being offered so some parts of the populace for no good reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred,</p>
<p>Barry Goldwater conservatives are fine by me &#8211; conservatism would be in better shape if there more such supporters.</p>
<p>JozefAL, </p>
<p>Strange that you have such a strong reaction to something you supposedly don&#8217;t care about.  </p>
<p>Dismissing religion entirely, which you seem to do, is the product of a narrow mind.</p>
<p>And please tell me what is wrong about Christians sending Bibles to countries behind the Iron Curtain?  Was life there so wonderful that people needed no comfort or hope? </p>
<p>And the focus of this post is not even religion &#8211; it is the grossly unfair and discriminatory compensation being offered so some parts of the populace for no good reason.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1171012</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Track-A-’Crat 
look forward to you exploring DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Track-A-’Crat<br />
look forward to you exploring DC.</p>
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		<title>By: JozefAL</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1170998</link>
		<dc:creator>JozefAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, if this doesn&#039;t sound like more of the typical conservative whining about &quot;oh, us poor Christians, we&#039;re just sooooo persecuted but those other religions--who don&#039;t even know how to worship the right God--get every thing they want; oh, woe is us&quot;.

It&#039;s crap like this that makes you wonder just how these American Christians would have dealt with the real persecutions of the first Century, like the being fed to the lions and being stoned or shot with arrows or being flayed and drawn and quartered, just for the amusement of the masses.  I&#039;ve got a feeling these Christian Talibanists would switch faiths just to avoid the extremes of REAL persecution.
So many of these lame-brains spent the better part of the Cold War era begging for money to send Bibles behind the Iron Curtain or, even worse, wrote the crappy Jack Chick comic books to indoctrinate a younger generation.
As the old prayer goes, &quot;Jesus, save us all from your followers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, if this doesn&#8217;t sound like more of the typical conservative whining about &#8220;oh, us poor Christians, we&#8217;re just sooooo persecuted but those other religions&#8211;who don&#8217;t even know how to worship the right God&#8211;get every thing they want; oh, woe is us&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crap like this that makes you wonder just how these American Christians would have dealt with the real persecutions of the first Century, like the being fed to the lions and being stoned or shot with arrows or being flayed and drawn and quartered, just for the amusement of the masses.  I&#8217;ve got a feeling these Christian Talibanists would switch faiths just to avoid the extremes of REAL persecution.<br />
So many of these lame-brains spent the better part of the Cold War era begging for money to send Bibles behind the Iron Curtain or, even worse, wrote the crappy Jack Chick comic books to indoctrinate a younger generation.<br />
As the old prayer goes, &#8220;Jesus, save us all from your followers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1170997</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no Patrick it&#039;s just wrong...and the confession on the back nine must be HEART WRENCHING.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no Patrick it&#8217;s just wrong&#8230;and the confession on the back nine must be HEART WRENCHING.!</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1170994</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think I will join that religion.

&lt;blockquote&gt;You know, if
one person, just one person does it they may think he&#039;s really sick and
they won&#039;t take him.  And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they&#039;re both faggots and they won&#039;t take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice&#039;s Restaurant and walking out. They may think it&#039;s an
organization.  And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice&#039;s Restaurant and
walking out.  And friends they may thinks it&#039;s a movement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think I will join that religion.</p>
<blockquote><p>You know, if<br />
one person, just one person does it they may think he&#8217;s really sick and<br />
they won&#8217;t take him.  And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,<br />
they may think they&#8217;re both faggots and they won&#8217;t take either of them.<br />
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in<br />
singin a bar of Alice&#8217;s Restaurant and walking out. They may think it&#8217;s an<br />
organization.  And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said<br />
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice&#8217;s Restaurant and<br />
walking out.  And friends they may thinks it&#8217;s a movement.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Diana L. C.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1170891</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana L. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They had the same problem in Greeley, CO, at the slaughter house.  Mostly African immigrants (and I think they were also Somali) wanting their Muslim religious time off.  But they simply were wanting a breat at a certain time, which all workers are supposed to get.  I don&#039;t know exactly how they settled it, but I am divided on this issue in one regard because I could not possible work in a slaughter house.  I don&#039;t eat meat.  

These people are sincere in their religion and would surely like a different job but can&#039;t find work other than this, and they were all apparently law-abiding family people.  And because our country seemes to require endless slaughtering of animals in inhumane ways, they can&#039;t shut down the &quot;production line&quot; easily.  

It used to be only the Mexican immigrants working there to serve the country&#039;s demand for meat, but I personally know one who became a vegetarian even after he was able to find a better job.  (Think of the Mexicans&#039; usual diet--a vegetarian Mexican is pretty rare.)

So basically it&#039;s always the same issue:  We have extremely awful jobs available that only the poorest immigrants will take and then we complain about them.  It may often be more than a religious issue.  

I often don&#039;t find meatless meals anywhere so bring my own food or eat salad, which IS usually available.  I wouldn&#039;t scream and demand it as my right.  But then, I didn&#039;t ever have a job or school situation that doesn&#039;t make me want to puke or made me feel somehow &quot;dirty.&quot; 

I know this opinion will anger some here.  I agree on the need to separate religion from government.  As a teacher I have always defended the idea that we do not force people to sit through prayers at certain time or during certain functions.  I understood the students&#039; who objected to the &quot;in God we trust&quot; part of the pledge.  And I understood my Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses who asked to be excused from attending school on days that had clearly set aside time for things they didn&#039;t believe in.  And I do also remember kids getting time off--I was one--to attend Good Friday services if we wanted, etc.

We can separate church and state, but we can work to find a compromise always for people who are sincerely trying to follow their religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They had the same problem in Greeley, CO, at the slaughter house.  Mostly African immigrants (and I think they were also Somali) wanting their Muslim religious time off.  But they simply were wanting a breat at a certain time, which all workers are supposed to get.  I don&#8217;t know exactly how they settled it, but I am divided on this issue in one regard because I could not possible work in a slaughter house.  I don&#8217;t eat meat.  </p>
<p>These people are sincere in their religion and would surely like a different job but can&#8217;t find work other than this, and they were all apparently law-abiding family people.  And because our country seemes to require endless slaughtering of animals in inhumane ways, they can&#8217;t shut down the &#8220;production line&#8221; easily.  </p>
<p>It used to be only the Mexican immigrants working there to serve the country&#8217;s demand for meat, but I personally know one who became a vegetarian even after he was able to find a better job.  (Think of the Mexicans&#8217; usual diet&#8211;a vegetarian Mexican is pretty rare.)</p>
<p>So basically it&#8217;s always the same issue:  We have extremely awful jobs available that only the poorest immigrants will take and then we complain about them.  It may often be more than a religious issue.  </p>
<p>I often don&#8217;t find meatless meals anywhere so bring my own food or eat salad, which IS usually available.  I wouldn&#8217;t scream and demand it as my right.  But then, I didn&#8217;t ever have a job or school situation that doesn&#8217;t make me want to puke or made me feel somehow &#8220;dirty.&#8221; </p>
<p>I know this opinion will anger some here.  I agree on the need to separate religion from government.  As a teacher I have always defended the idea that we do not force people to sit through prayers at certain time or during certain functions.  I understood the students&#8217; who objected to the &#8220;in God we trust&#8221; part of the pledge.  And I understood my Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses who asked to be excused from attending school on days that had clearly set aside time for things they didn&#8217;t believe in.  And I do also remember kids getting time off&#8211;I was one&#8211;to attend Good Friday services if we wanted, etc.</p>
<p>We can separate church and state, but we can work to find a compromise always for people who are sincerely trying to follow their religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1170852</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Minister..I Pray  on the Job all the time and get Paid for It...However...I am filing a grievance because They wont let me off to Play Golf with larry...Who Used to hear My Confessions...

Is that discrimination ..??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Minister..I Pray  on the Job all the time and get Paid for It&#8230;However&#8230;I am filing a grievance because They wont let me off to Play Golf with larry&#8230;Who Used to hear My Confessions&#8230;</p>
<p>Is that discrimination ..??</p>
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		<title>By: Track-A-'Crat</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1170847</link>
		<dc:creator>Track-A-'Crat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuppence411, astute observation.  As Mary says, though, we&#039;re all gonna have to get used to it, at least while the Democrats are in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuppence411, astute observation.  As Mary says, though, we&#8217;re all gonna have to get used to it, at least while the Democrats are in office.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1170817</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get used to it..Mr. Muslim is going after Israel next..a la Reverend Wright who is living rather large in his 16 million mansion paid by Obama&#039;s earmarks when he was Senator...Oh my goodness..his aunt is illegally receiving HUD benefits in Boston?? Oh my goodness..we are paying???
All I can say is get used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get used to it..Mr. Muslim is going after Israel next..a la Reverend Wright who is living rather large in his 16 million mansion paid by Obama&#8217;s earmarks when he was Senator&#8230;Oh my goodness..his aunt is illegally receiving HUD benefits in Boston?? Oh my goodness..we are paying???<br />
All I can say is get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1170796</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur with your comments. It is really either all or none, as far s I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with your comments. It is really either all or none, as far s I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuppence411</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/19883/ahead-of-their-time/#comment-1170792</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuppence411</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take the jump linked in the post to the article in the Star Tribune and read the comments. I especially like the one that points out the legal organization that defends these Muslims workers religious freedoms is the same exact one that files lawsuits trampling all over mine! I can&#039;t have a Christmas tree at work but Muslims can get paid to pray? The cafeteria doesn&#039;t really care if they provide a meatless alternative on Fridays during Lent for me, but they can&#039;t touch pork? Either we keep seperate the secular from the religious, or we make accomodations for everyone. Nevermind this picking and choosing which religion is in vogue and whose on the outs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take the jump linked in the post to the article in the Star Tribune and read the comments. I especially like the one that points out the legal organization that defends these Muslims workers religious freedoms is the same exact one that files lawsuits trampling all over mine! I can&#8217;t have a Christmas tree at work but Muslims can get paid to pray? The cafeteria doesn&#8217;t really care if they provide a meatless alternative on Fridays during Lent for me, but they can&#8217;t touch pork? Either we keep seperate the secular from the religious, or we make accomodations for everyone. Nevermind this picking and choosing which religion is in vogue and whose on the outs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That depends on what you mean by conservative. Many here are centrists. I myself am not a neocon (which is neither new nor conservative) but a Barry Goldwater conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That depends on what you mean by conservative. Many here are centrists. I myself am not a neocon (which is neither new nor conservative) but a Barry Goldwater conservative.</p>
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