Comments on: 21st Century Feminism Emerges!

By: Spatz

Spatz — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:46:26 +0000

I still believe Carrie Prejean should have won the Miss USA 2009, and not Kirsten Dalton.

Carrie was looking stunning in her swimsuit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI3N5CrIusE

By: donna darko

donna darko — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:18:50 +0000

I’ve been around the block in all these movements! I was a frequent commenter at Feministing the first year it won Best Political Blog in the Bloggers Choice Awards. No Quarter is also the Best Political Blog. I am attracted to political blogs because women’s rights and politics are very intimately linked.

Sexual assault and domestic violence are mostly intra-racial i.e. perpetrated by the same race and universal. It’s the same in every country. Women of color focus on racist sexism i.e. sexism perpetrated by whites and these discussions invariably turn into discussions about racism and feminism bashing. See Pleasegos and my comments on the thread I linked. Sexist sexism is universal and all women have that in common and that is what we discuss at TNA.

By: Constance

Constance — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:58:42 +0000

I have actually been banned from their site too. They clearly have good intentions but they don’t stray too far from the dogma of the liberal Democrat. I still have hope they will more accurately represent women and women’s issues. As far as NOW goes, I resent their using the word “women” in their title. They are nothing but the well trained ladies axillary of the men’s liberal Democrat movement.

By: donna darko

donna darko — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:42:14 +0000

Hi, Miss Tickly,

I experienced extreme oppression. That along with 16 year of activism, reading and thinking make me the feminist/leftist I am today.

PUMA 4-EVA.

By: Kathleen Wynne

Kathleen Wynne — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:20:26 +0000

truthisgold,

Off Topic: Things are going well, despite the fact I was recently laid off! However, I’m busy working to raise public awareness about the “truth” regardingelection (not voter) fraud, which has been going on for decades now.

Keep up the good work in keeping the truth front and center and standing up for diversity. Without diversity and different points of view, there is no democracy to keep us balanced.

Group Think destroys democracy.

By: lorac

lorac — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:42:50 +0000

Did you look at the site? Every other word is bigot. Bigot seems to be synonymous with not agreeing with Obama.

They’ve kind of painted themselves in a corner for when they start having disagreements with what he is doing.

By: lorac

lorac — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:39:11 +0000

Amy,

If you happen to come back to this thread –

Did Together4us come to New Agenda? There was a really nice woman named Jennifer (if I’m remembering correctly) working for them.

By: lorac

lorac — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:30:58 +0000

Well, just off the top of my head, blind, deaf, and paralyzed people have assistants, family members, and non-profit and governmental organizations to help them secure their rights.

By: lorac

lorac — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:23:26 +0000

Buzz, I don’t believe any of us knows these women personally. What we “know” is what we see, and what we believe. I can’t believe they’re so perfect as to never feel or show anger (would you call that “hate”?), but they are public figures and present a certain facade. Hillary may very well have been “whining” to Bill that the misogynistic DNC screwed her over – and I’d be really surprised if she weren’t “angry” about it! She’s smarter and more worldly than most of us, I’m sure, but I would guess she has our same emotions, and is angered by sexism. We see what she shows us.

By: lorac

lorac — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:10:56 +0000

LOL Wow – several times you’ve declared your pronouncement of the hierarchy of priorities in the world. But I’m certain we could even find things “more important” than women’s rights – those dying children you mentioned, for example. You seem to have an issue with gays and blacks, and keep trying to find things that are more important, so those “unimportant” issues can be scuttled.

Is there any chance that those people might be allowed to decide their own priorities for their own lives? You seem to be a lesbian who thinks gays should keep their life “private” – is it really fair to tell other women to “go back in the closet”?

And I think you misread my post you were responding to, based on your “catfight” comment. I was talking about a woman and a man living together potentially having a conflict over gender roles. My point was that gays don’t have to deal with that conflict, because they have the same goals.

By: lorac

lorac — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:59:06 +0000

You seem to make a lot of assumptions based on your own opinions Fedup. It feels rather controlling…. just my reaction.

By: elise

elise — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:02:53 +0000

Most opposing points of view are relative, I suppose. My experience of the 70s was entirely different. I felt we were doing something worthwhile. Our movement was overshadowed by the Civil Rights and Anti-war movements and the accomplishments were not as impressive, but they did make a difference. The right to choose was not the only change. Title ix had a very positive effect in the beginning although it has been marginalized since. Women were entitled to say no to sex with their husbands and marital rape was recognized. If the only means men had to fight against equality for women was to blame the women for being something other than what they were, they would use it with words like ball breaker, feminazi or bitch or question their sexual orientation. I will agree men were angry and bewildered because a free and independent woman is frightening to some. To others, it is a beautiful thing to see. I don’t like to make personal references, but my first husband near the end of our marriage, called me a “little mouse”. I realized that was exactly what I had become after fighting for my equality as a young woman. Do you see the irony?

By: FranSC

FranSC — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:28:57 +0000

Senneth, what I describe was the case in my state for many years, NC. To be a southern state we had many women’s groups dedicated to women’s equality. We actually almost passed the Equal Rights Amendment with only two votes needed. I’m sorry, but NOW in my city was exactly the way I said. I’m sure some of the states’s chapters were different as you say.

I think the “bra burning” was basically a figure of speech and that was what I was trying to convey as well. I was a member of the Women’s Political Caucus. We were a very different organization from NOW. Did not mean to offend you. Sounds like you were one of the leaders.

By: Buzz Latte

Buzz Latte — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:27:07 +0000

Check the reading comprehension. It’s called inference or corollary and if you know your feminist history there was bra burning. A literal take on comments is not only counterproductive, it’s demeaning to the those that take a different tact or have lived through the first go around of feminists.

By: FranSC

FranSC — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:06:15 +0000

This really isn’t about destroying feminity. It is about equal rights, equal pay particularly in the business and political worlds, and that can mean altering, perhaps, what one wears.

On the other hand, personal relationships often need work if both partners do not treat each other with dignity, respect and, yes, equality. If those three things are present, sexuality should not be effected.

If those three things are NOT present in a personal relationship OR a business relationship, women learn from sources like “The New Agenda” to DEMAND dignity, respect and equality. And if they don’t get it, they should be out of there! That’s what we are talking about here.