Comments on: Source Documents from Valerie Wilson Civil Suits

By: BigDog

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By: Callum

Callum — Sun, 17 May 2009 09:57:23 +0000

security officer job description…

Intriguing idea, but I don’t know if I believe you one hundred percent….

By: Patrick Henry

Patrick Henry — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:12:23 +0000

Sue..

Taters asked a Good Question..How would Your Under cover SIU/Drug Task Force Husband feel about that..?? Same Difference..

Valorie was a Covert Agent going after Bad Guys..developing Intel for a Government Agency..all similar to Law Enforcement work..just like the FBI or DEA..or your local Police..

how did your “husnand” feel about the Movie SCORPIO..with Stallone being an Under Cover Narc who was betrayed by some of his fellow Cops…who were CORRUPT..??

Same difference..Same Motives..

In fact its Ironic that some of the Perps who went after Valorie Plame are now sitting right on top of the Major Heroin Distribution
Place in the World..and shaking Hands and Making deals..and turning a Blind Eye to Crime syndicates and Drug Lords..because thats the Way that the Perps who Outted Covert Agent Valorie Plame and Exposed Her Task Force at the Central intelligence Agency..do BUSINESS..

How would your Undercover NARC Detective Husband feel about that..
or as Taters asked you..RECONCILE it..

Unless He’s Dirty too..

By: taters

taters — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:50:41 +0000

Still waiting Sue.

By: taters

taters — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 05:10:48 +0000

Mudkitty says,

Also, I don’t believe Sue’s is the wife of an undercover cop

. Well, let's just say I'm not altogether convinced.I think a simple explantion from Sue will clear that all uponce and for all. Sue - I am curious how one can condone the outing of Valerie Wilson, who was undercover and covert by this WH and be married to an undercover cop. Would you be so kind as to explain this to us? And if you do condone Mrs. Wilson's outing, I'm sure your husband takes a completely different view. How do you reconcile that with him? I anxiously await your response.

By: mudkitty

mudkitty — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:24:07 +0000

Mrs. Wilson’s lawyer said that they will appeal, and this time it will be before a panel of judges, not just one rightwing republican activist judge. So this story isn’t over by a long shot.

Also, I don’t believe Sue’s is the wife of an undercover cop. I just don’t believe it. I don’t believe much of what she writes.

By: RS Janes

RS Janes — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:02:52 +0000

Judge John D. Bates, who dismissed the Plame suit, is quite a Republican piece of work: He was appointed to the DC District Court by George W. Bush in 2001; he dismissed the GAO suit to find out who was on Cheney’s secret ‘Energy Task Force’; prior to that he served two years under Ken Starr trying to impeach Clinton, and before that investigating the Whitewater waste of time and money. So, by the GOP’s standards, Plame received an impartial hearing. Which leads to this question:

Why haven’t judges appointed by Bush been recusing themselves from deciding cases involving Bush cronies? This is commonly done in state and local courts — imagine the uproar if a judge appointed by a governor decided a case in favor of that same governor’s interests — yet the federal bench seems immune to this time-honored tradition, at least since Supreme Court Justices Thomas and Scalia, both of whom had family connected to the Bush campaign, voted Junior into office in December of 2000.

By: taters

taters — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:08:48 +0000

Hi PrchrLady,
Thank you, ma’am. I’ve never seen you post anything beyond the pale, mean spirited or in bad taste. What a gorgeous day here in Michigan.

By: PrchrLady

PrchrLady — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:35:41 +0000

Thank you Taters for your honesty, and the willingness to admit and apologize for your words. I myself have been guilty of the same, and offer those I have offended my apologizes as well. I too, have become so frustrated that sometimes words escape me, and I attack on the offensive, something I am loathe to do. That being said, Let honesty prevail and the Truth be seen by All. Peace.

By: taters

taters — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:19:46 +0000

Sue,
I’m smitten. And I wish I could take that post back. Perhaps the Bush ballwashing/scrotum scrubbing remark along with Billy Sue Bob could infer homophobia or a personal attack on you. Certainly not one of my better moments. For that I apologize. Non one can say I was upping the bar of exchange. Your remarks, which I consider cavalier about the outing of Valerie Plame/Wilson angered me.
The bw and ss was meant to denote a shameless apologist for this admin. and OK, crudely stated on my part. Bush apologist of the first rank, is frankly – well – played out. The Billy Sue Bob, perhaps in another setting may be funny, but not the expense of another human being.
I have no personal stake with Joe Wilson, I met him briefly and I liked him. I recommend his book highly. And I appreciate and I respect his service to our country. Obviously, like many of my fellow posters here, I am appalled and angered that this WH would deliberately and methodically out an intelligence officer who was covert and undercover for political purposes.
And believe it or not Sue, I would feel the same if your husband’s cover was blown for retaliatory purposes. Or for any other reason, if done deliberately.
And God forbid, if that happened to your spouse, I have a strong feeling that you would be angry and IMHO, justifiably so. Kudos to your husband, that is extremely dangerous work.
As for me being ‘taters’ – the original intent of that handle was for me not to take myself too damned seriously.
I’m sorry for being hurtful and I appreciate the opportunity to respond. You can call me Bobby if you’d like and hopefully we can have dialoguein the future.
Sincerely,
Bobby aka taters

PS- I guess saying taters could get someone slapped – and deservedly so if an ill mannered man at a bar said to a woman, “Hey honey, nice taters.”

By: Waiting in Texas

Waiting in Texas — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:29:16 +0000

I’m just heartsick that this case was “dismissed.” No matter what laws Cheney et al break and duplicitious actions they take against the Plame-Wilsons, others and our Constitution, they get away with everything. So what do we do now Larry? What’s the next step?

By: RS Janes

RS Janes — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:36:38 +0000

Thanks for the links further proving Valerie Plame's covert status, Larry. Of course it won't make much difference to the delusional deniers of the right-wing neoconnery, but it does make them look increasingly ridiculous as they continue to contest her position as a covert CIA asset. As Mark Twain said, "No God and no religion can survive ridicule. No political church, no nobility, no royalty or other fraud, can face ridicule in a fair field, and live." Today they are in the process of being ridiculed straight out of the political arena for sticking to just such tripe as 'Valerie Plame wasn't a covert CIA agent.' To paraphrase another Twain quote: "God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the [neocons]." BTW, it's useful to recall what a hero Joe Wilson was prior to his trip to NIger:

"He [Wilson] was a member of the U.S. Diplomatic Service from 1976 to 1998. From 1988 to 1991, he was the deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and was the last American diplomat to speak with ex-Iraqi President Saddam Hussein before the 1990 Gulf War. "Wilson was credited with helping to free more than 100 American hostages in Iraq after Saddam ordered the invasion of Kuwait in 1990. He was praised by former President George H. W. Bush for his role in that effort." -- From "Former U.S. Ambassador Spoke on Campus," Southern Connecticut State University, October, 2002.

The man stood up to Saddam Hussein and saved Americans during the first Gulf War; at the time, I believe the Bush Boy was cashing in his Harken Oil stock, which prompted an investigation by the SEC for insider trading. Just lucky for Junior that his father appointed the top members of the SEC and that later one of the investigators became his lawyer in Texas. I'm wondering what the well-informed bunch here think of this item I ran across:

"A separate military mission led by Marine General Carlton Fulford, Jr, deputy commander of the United States European Command (EUCOM), went to Niger the same month [as Joe Wilson], February 2002. "Fulford quickly came to the same conclusion as Wilson, that it was implausible that al-Qaeda or anyone else could secretly buy uranium from Niger." -- From "The Real Axis of Evil," Politics 101.us, Feb. 10, 2006.

By: RS Janes

RS Janes — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:02:23 +0000

Dan, this isn’t the end of the road for Valerie Plame; she can still file in a higher court, and I think she will.

By: RS Janes

RS Janes — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:56:57 +0000

A Bush recess appointee to the Defense Dept. telling an elected representative of the people to keep her mouth shut? A guy who used to grovel for Paul Wolfowitz and shine Dick Cheney’s shoes? If Gates had any naugas, he’d fire Edelman pronto; for that matter, if the Dems had any, they’d impeach this half-wit.

By: Patrick Henry

Patrick Henry — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:20:33 +0000

SUE SOPRANO..BOUGHT A PIANO..BUT WAS` TO STUPID TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY

SHE DRINKS THE SOUR CIDER..SOLD BY THE DECIDER..AND SITS ON THE TOILET ALL DAY..