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Thanks for the great analysis. I totally agree with the concluding, last paragraph of your piece (as with the rest of the piece). However, our soldiers are going there voluntarily, and fully knowing that this is an illegal war of occupation. They are making this continued disaster, including wasting $3 billion a week, possible. As such I can no longer support the troops.

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“For their care [of Iraqi refugees], of course, the Syrians have received not a scintilla of gratitude from the Americans who were responsible for creating the hell-disaster of Iraq in the first place. It’s worth comparing the vital statistics (though not on CNN or Fox News): Syria has accepted almost one and a half million Iraqi refugees – caring for them, providing them with welfare and free hospital services – while Washington, when it isn’t cursing Iraq’s prime minister, has accepted a measly 800 Iraqis.

“And Lebanon? No one realises that this tiny Arab country has accepted 50,000 Iraqis since the great refugee exodus began.”

http://news.independent.co.uk/fisk/article2917317.ece

]]> By: Larry Johnson http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/08/31/the-price-of-progress/#comment-21994 Larry Johnson Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:43:21 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/08/31/the-price-of-progress/#comment-21994 As is typcial of Tom aka Winning Side aka Moe-Ron, he focuses on the irrelevant. The issue is not the number of casualties. The issue is casualties without measurable progress. Yes, far more died in World War II and we vanquished the Germans and the Japanese and installed functioning democracies in both. Not the case in Iraq. We've spent far more time fighting in Iraq, deploying our soldiers on combat tours for more time than US soldiers in the Second World War, the Korean War, and the Vietnam war ever had to deploy. I have never claimed to be a combat vet. But I have been mentored by three combat veterans--Pat Lang (SOG Vietnam), Dick Gannon (Vietnam and Commander of the 5th Marines) and Paul Evancoe (NAVY SEAL, Vietnam). My views on combat and the expenditure of human lives in feckless causes is based on the experience of these men. Winning Side is just another yellow elephant Republican who talks a tough game but doesn't have the stones to play. As is typcial of Tom aka Winning Side aka Moe-Ron, he focuses on the irrelevant. The issue is not the number of casualties. The issue is casualties without measurable progress. Yes, far more died in World War II and we vanquished the Germans and the Japanese and installed functioning democracies in both. Not the case in Iraq. We’ve spent far more time fighting in Iraq, deploying our soldiers on combat tours for more time than US soldiers in the Second World War, the Korean War, and the Vietnam war ever had to deploy. I have never claimed to be a combat vet. But I have been mentored by three combat veterans–Pat Lang (SOG Vietnam), Dick Gannon (Vietnam and Commander of the 5th Marines) and Paul Evancoe (NAVY SEAL, Vietnam). My views on combat and the expenditure of human lives in feckless causes is based on the experience of these men.
Winning Side is just another yellow elephant Republican who talks a tough game but doesn’t have the stones to play.

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