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	<title>Comments on: Amendment Eases War on Iran</title>
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		<title>By: Fingal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-29298</link>
		<dc:creator>Fingal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.  I'll try Google as well.  Of course, the people who haven't heard the denunciations have almost certainly not Google'd for them, and others of us might well do some good by shoving the links (gently) in their faces.

Of course, I go back and forth on whether there's any point leading those particular horses to water.

F.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.  I&#8217;ll try Google as well.  Of course, the people who haven&#8217;t heard the denunciations have almost certainly not Google&#8217;d for them, and others of us might well do some good by shoving the links (gently) in their faces.</p>
<p>Of course, I go back and forth on whether there&#8217;s any point leading those particular horses to water.</p>
<p>F.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28569</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly believe Jon Kyl and Joseph Lieberman should be tried for &lt;strong&gt;TREASON&lt;/strong&gt; against the United States. Clearly they are working against the interests of American's and America. They must be working in the interest of a foreign country (Israel) and they show more allegiance to that country then to America. We all know it would be against the interests of America to go to war with Iran. It would be far more deadly and cost far than Iraq, and frankly it is a war we cannot win since our forces are stretched so thin and are having problems pacifying a country 3X smaller than Iran. Jon Kyl and Joseph Lieberman are agents of Israel and are handled by their Proxy AIPAC here in the US. 

Why else would they be advocating war?

Time American's woke up to the traitors in our midst and smelled the rotten stench emanating from these immoral, inhumane and &lt;strong&gt;TREASONOUS&lt;/strong&gt; Politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly believe Jon Kyl and Joseph Lieberman should be tried for <strong>TREASON</strong> against the United States. Clearly they are working against the interests of American&#8217;s and America. They must be working in the interest of a foreign country (Israel) and they show more allegiance to that country then to America. We all know it would be against the interests of America to go to war with Iran. It would be far more deadly and cost far than Iraq, and frankly it is a war we cannot win since our forces are stretched so thin and are having problems pacifying a country 3X smaller than Iran. Jon Kyl and Joseph Lieberman are agents of Israel and are handled by their Proxy AIPAC here in the US. </p>
<p>Why else would they be advocating war?</p>
<p>Time American&#8217;s woke up to the traitors in our midst and smelled the rotten stench emanating from these immoral, inhumane and <strong>TREASONOUS</strong> Politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Action: Stop Lieberman/Kyl Amendment : NO QUARTER</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28425</link>
		<dc:creator>Action: Stop Lieberman/Kyl Amendment : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gave you the scoop in &#8220;Amendment Eases War on Iran.&#8221; Now, via an e-mail as well as a post by Josh Marshall, it&#8217;s time for us to pick up [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gave you the scoop in &#8220;Amendment Eases War on Iran.&#8221; Now, via an e-mail as well as a post by Josh Marshall, it&#8217;s time for us to pick up [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MEP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28169</link>
		<dc:creator>MEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Taters

It really pisses me off that people do not understand that some Dems like Rahm are slimy lying bastards.  The reason the DLC pukes withheld help from Webb, Tester, Marcinkowski etc, is because the pukes knew those guys could not and would not be controlled.  I'd love to watch Rahm try to muscle any of the three above.  Give me three days to sell tickets and I could probably retire.  Have I mentioned how much I detest the DLC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Taters</p>
<p>It really pisses me off that people do not understand that some Dems like Rahm are slimy lying bastards.  The reason the DLC pukes withheld help from Webb, Tester, Marcinkowski etc, is because the pukes knew those guys could not and would not be controlled.  I&#8217;d love to watch Rahm try to muscle any of the three above.  Give me three days to sell tickets and I could probably retire.  Have I mentioned how much I detest the DLC?</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28108</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appreciate your help Shirin, but it's not worth your time or mine respond to this. This is more of the same anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim, anti-Arab bullshit I've heard since 9/11. That it's somehow the fault of the Jews, the Muslims, the Arabs...next it will be African-Americans who are Muslim, or Filipinos, or Malaysians, or who knows who.... It's so much easier to blame someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate your help Shirin, but it&#8217;s not worth your time or mine respond to this. This is more of the same anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim, anti-Arab bullshit I&#8217;ve heard since 9/11. That it&#8217;s somehow the fault of the Jews, the Muslims, the Arabs&#8230;next it will be African-Americans who are Muslim, or Filipinos, or Malaysians, or who knows who&#8230;. It&#8217;s so much easier to blame someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28105</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cee, I don't get it. what exactly would you suggest that Leslie "do" about it outside of, being Jewish, taking responsibility for the actions of other free adults who just happen to be Jewish too - something that she is in no way obligated to do, and something that is in any case pointless and useless? 

Or do you imagine that somehow Leslie has some kind of authority over the likes of Lieberman, Feith, Perleman, etc? Do you imagine that she can somehow influence their actions or force them into line? 

Or are you merely demanding that she and other Jews disassociate themselves with the Jewish criminal wack jobs in order to prove something to someone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cee, I don&#8217;t get it. what exactly would you suggest that Leslie &#8220;do&#8221; about it outside of, being Jewish, taking responsibility for the actions of other free adults who just happen to be Jewish too - something that she is in no way obligated to do, and something that is in any case pointless and useless? </p>
<p>Or do you imagine that somehow Leslie has some kind of authority over the likes of Lieberman, Feith, Perleman, etc? Do you imagine that she can somehow influence their actions or force them into line? </p>
<p>Or are you merely demanding that she and other Jews disassociate themselves with the Jewish criminal wack jobs in order to prove something to someone?</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28098</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You quoted Weiss. You must’ve done so for a reason,

I quoted a portion. The article was rather long.

 when your comment was in support of Anonymous’s about Jews not uniting against Bush? 

My comment to that person what that Jews did speak out but were ignored. The ones he listens to are the hard right nuts.



And, yes, I do feel sensitive about having my loyalties questioned vis a vis religious affiliation.

Blame that on people of your religion who claim to act in your name. 
They have  hijacked your faith and this government. 
There IS a fifth column who have done that. Guess who will be blamed for a acts of a few fanatics. All Jews. We're seeing that happening to Muslims now!

Watched the Bill Maher interview of Mike Sheuer, but not clear what your point is?

Your unwarranted response to me. Should I find it again?

Regarding Lieberman and the Brookings Institute or Neocons…I’m not responsible for their beliefs or their loyalties, neither as a Jew nor as an American.

Speak up like Jewish Voices for Peace have and Committee to Prevent Home Demolitions have. 
Seek out people who will interview them like I have.
Those interviews might cost a person their job (I won't go into details) but those voices need to be heard. 
Dammit! This morning I see that asshole Ken Pollack on the news again after he lied us into Iraq, now lying us into Iran. You better find some power to spot clowns like him again.


 And, the last time I looked, it was the Bush administration that created the situation we’re in.

The administration and these unelected crackpots who DO have the power!! 

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&amp;contrassID=2&amp;subContrassID=14&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&amp;listSrc=Y



I resent very much the implication that there’s this secret fifth column of Jews in the US, 

I'm sorry that you resent it. The facts speak for themselves. 

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/podhoretz-bush-meeting/


Do something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You quoted Weiss. You must’ve done so for a reason,</p>
<p>I quoted a portion. The article was rather long.</p>
<p> when your comment was in support of Anonymous’s about Jews not uniting against Bush? </p>
<p>My comment to that person what that Jews did speak out but were ignored. The ones he listens to are the hard right nuts.</p>
<p>And, yes, I do feel sensitive about having my loyalties questioned vis a vis religious affiliation.</p>
<p>Blame that on people of your religion who claim to act in your name.<br />
They have  hijacked your faith and this government.<br />
There IS a fifth column who have done that. Guess who will be blamed for a acts of a few fanatics. All Jews. We&#8217;re seeing that happening to Muslims now!</p>
<p>Watched the Bill Maher interview of Mike Sheuer, but not clear what your point is?</p>
<p>Your unwarranted response to me. Should I find it again?</p>
<p>Regarding Lieberman and the Brookings Institute or Neocons…I’m not responsible for their beliefs or their loyalties, neither as a Jew nor as an American.</p>
<p>Speak up like Jewish Voices for Peace have and Committee to Prevent Home Demolitions have.<br />
Seek out people who will interview them like I have.<br />
Those interviews might cost a person their job (I won&#8217;t go into details) but those voices need to be heard.<br />
Dammit! This morning I see that asshole Ken Pollack on the news again after he lied us into Iraq, now lying us into Iran. You better find some power to spot clowns like him again.</p>
<p> And, the last time I looked, it was the Bush administration that created the situation we’re in.</p>
<p>The administration and these unelected crackpots who DO have the power!! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&amp;contrassID=2&amp;subContrassID=14&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&amp;listSrc=Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&amp;contrassID=2&amp;subContrassID=14&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&amp;listSrc=Y</a></p>
<p>I resent very much the implication that there’s this secret fifth column of Jews in the US, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that you resent it. The facts speak for themselves. </p>
<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/podhoretz-bush-meeting/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/24/podhoretz-bush-meeting/</a></p>
<p>Do something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: taters</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28054</link>
		<dc:creator>taters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey MEP,
This is a great piece Larry did regarding Rahm.
Not Afraid to Fight
by
Larry C Johnson

A little over a year ago I sat in the office of DCCC Chairman Rahm Emanuel in the Democratic National Headquarters in Washington with Jim Marcinkowski.  
The Democrats approached Jim about running for Congress.  Rahm promised Jim, in my presence, that if Jim showed he could raise money then they would back him.  After the meeting broke up, I went to the bathroom.  Rahm came in and used the urinal next to me.  He asked, "Is he going to do it".  I said, "yes".  Rahm reiterated his promise to help Jim if he jumped into the race.  If the Dems take the Congress, don't count on the word of Rahm Emanuel.


http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/10/not_afraid_to_f.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey MEP,<br />
This is a great piece Larry did regarding Rahm.<br />
Not Afraid to Fight<br />
by<br />
Larry C Johnson</p>
<p>A little over a year ago I sat in the office of DCCC Chairman Rahm Emanuel in the Democratic National Headquarters in Washington with Jim Marcinkowski.<br />
The Democrats approached Jim about running for Congress.  Rahm promised Jim, in my presence, that if Jim showed he could raise money then they would back him.  After the meeting broke up, I went to the bathroom.  Rahm came in and used the urinal next to me.  He asked, &#8220;Is he going to do it&#8221;.  I said, &#8220;yes&#8221;.  Rahm reiterated his promise to help Jim if he jumped into the race.  If the Dems take the Congress, don&#8217;t count on the word of Rahm Emanuel.</p>
<p><a href="http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/10/not_afraid_to_f.html" rel="nofollow">http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/10/not_afraid_to_f.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: taters</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28051</link>
		<dc:creator>taters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll keep my eyes and ears open for him, Susan.
Eric Massa and Jim Marcinkowski are two other excellent candidates that could have used some help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll keep my eyes and ears open for him, Susan.<br />
Eric Massa and Jim Marcinkowski are two other excellent candidates that could have used some help.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28023</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right Shirin. Lieberman's Jewishness isn't the issue, it's his politics.

Ditto with bin Laden and al Qaeda: It's not the Muslim religion that ought to be at issue, but al Qaeda's crimes. It's absurd when you hear people saying, "What Muslims have spoken out against bin Laden?" Besides the fact that many have...besides the fact that bin Laden has murdered many Muslims [in Afghanistan alone], it's not the responsibility of individual Arabs and Muslims to speak out against a murderer or risk being confused with him. Muslims/Arabs aren't responsible for 9/11, bin Laden was. 

That's why this whole brouhaha with whether or not to allow Ahmadinejad to visit the WTC site in NYC is so ridiculous. What does Ahmadinejad or Iran have to do with al Qaeda or 9/11? Absolutely nothing! Let Ahmadinejad pay his respects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right Shirin. Lieberman&#8217;s Jewishness isn&#8217;t the issue, it&#8217;s his politics.</p>
<p>Ditto with bin Laden and al Qaeda: It&#8217;s not the Muslim religion that ought to be at issue, but al Qaeda&#8217;s crimes. It&#8217;s absurd when you hear people saying, &#8220;What Muslims have spoken out against bin Laden?&#8221; Besides the fact that many have&#8230;besides the fact that bin Laden has murdered many Muslims [in Afghanistan alone], it&#8217;s not the responsibility of individual Arabs and Muslims to speak out against a murderer or risk being confused with him. Muslims/Arabs aren&#8217;t responsible for 9/11, bin Laden was. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why this whole brouhaha with whether or not to allow Ahmadinejad to visit the WTC site in NYC is so ridiculous. What does Ahmadinejad or Iran have to do with al Qaeda or 9/11? Absolutely nothing! Let Ahmadinejad pay his respects.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28021</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right Lidia. But either way the Jews would be toast, along with anyone else who was a non-believer or didn't convert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Lidia. But either way the Jews would be toast, along with anyone else who was a non-believer or didn&#8217;t convert.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28017</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's another thing that kind of mystifies - and annoys - me about the attitude that Jews must somehow legitimate themselves by repudiating Lieberman. It does not only - absurdly - make American Jews individually and severally responsible for the beliefs and behaviours of - apparently - each one of their fellow Jews. In addition to that it makes being Jewish THE central concern about Lieberman. What is UP with that? Is his religion/ethnic affiliation/however you want to define Jewishness really the central, most critical fact about him? Isn't it his record on the issues that matters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another thing that kind of mystifies - and annoys - me about the attitude that Jews must somehow legitimate themselves by repudiating Lieberman. It does not only - absurdly - make American Jews individually and severally responsible for the beliefs and behaviours of - apparently - each one of their fellow Jews. In addition to that it makes being Jewish THE central concern about Lieberman. What is UP with that? Is his religion/ethnic affiliation/however you want to define Jewishness really the central, most critical fact about him? Isn&#8217;t it his record on the issues that matters?</p>
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		<title>By: lidia</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28013</link>
		<dc:creator>lidia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Shirin meant the case of Hungarian Jews being sold by Zionists for saving a group of prominent Zionists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Shirin meant the case of Hungarian Jews being sold by Zionists for saving a group of prominent Zionists.</p>
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		<title>By: lidia</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-28011</link>
		<dc:creator>lidia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The Rapture crowd doesn’t want or expect to convert Jews to Christianity. The Jews would go up in smoke along with the Muslims."

 No, Lesly, a part of Jews WOULD be converted and only non-converted would perish. But for religious Jew to convert to Christianity is fate worse than death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Rapture crowd doesn’t want or expect to convert Jews to Christianity. The Jews would go up in smoke along with the Muslims.&#8221;</p>
<p> No, Lesly, a part of Jews WOULD be converted and only non-converted would perish. But for religious Jew to convert to Christianity is fate worse than death.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-27989</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't stand Lieberman. Jon Stewart does a perfect imitation of him!</description>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-27987</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, well I've never heard that he collaborated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, well I&#8217;ve never heard that he collaborated?</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-27980</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leslie, please reread my comments on Ben Gurion and other Zionists and note that I did not in any way suggest that they supported the Nazis. I used a completely different word with a completely different meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie, please reread my comments on Ben Gurion and other Zionists and note that I did not in any way suggest that they supported the Nazis. I used a completely different word with a completely different meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-27976</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly Shirin. I don't belong to AIPAC and don't support them. Nor should anyone expect me to denounce them, Lieberman, et al, as some sort of loyalty test. This kind of thinking helped lead to the creation of the Japanese internment camps during WWII. It's the type of thinking that could lead to reprisals, and has lead to reprisals, against Muslims/Arabs in the US.

It's called scapegoating.

[Ben Gurion supported the Nazis!? I've never heard that before, will have to look into it.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Shirin. I don&#8217;t belong to AIPAC and don&#8217;t support them. Nor should anyone expect me to denounce them, Lieberman, et al, as some sort of loyalty test. This kind of thinking helped lead to the creation of the Japanese internment camps during WWII. It&#8217;s the type of thinking that could lead to reprisals, and has lead to reprisals, against Muslims/Arabs in the US.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called scapegoating.</p>
<p>[Ben Gurion supported the Nazis!? I've never heard that before, will have to look into it.]</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-27874</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Individual Jews are not responsible for decisions, choices and actions made by other individual Jews or by Jewish organizations with which they are not affiliated, and it is absurd to hold them responsible. 

As for the dual loyalty thing, it is completely unfair and very offensive to make that charge against American Jews in general. 

Yes, Prescott Bush did business with the  Nazis. Ben Gurion and other Zionists also collaborated with the Nazis, and Ben Gurion, typically of the narrow views of the ideologue, had some shocking ideas about the value of Jewish lives relative to the value of the Zionist project. In short, he valued Zionism more than he valued Jewish lives. The same thing could be said of many others, including the Zionist underground in Iraq who found it quite appropriate to kill and maim Jews - including Jewish children - in their effort to terrorize reluctant Iraqi Jews into immigrating to Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individual Jews are not responsible for decisions, choices and actions made by other individual Jews or by Jewish organizations with which they are not affiliated, and it is absurd to hold them responsible. </p>
<p>As for the dual loyalty thing, it is completely unfair and very offensive to make that charge against American Jews in general. </p>
<p>Yes, Prescott Bush did business with the  Nazis. Ben Gurion and other Zionists also collaborated with the Nazis, and Ben Gurion, typically of the narrow views of the ideologue, had some shocking ideas about the value of Jewish lives relative to the value of the Zionist project. In short, he valued Zionism more than he valued Jewish lives. The same thing could be said of many others, including the Zionist underground in Iraq who found it quite appropriate to kill and maim Jews - including Jewish children - in their effort to terrorize reluctant Iraqi Jews into immigrating to Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/22/amendment-eases-war-on-iran/#comment-27869</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first response to people who insist that Muslims are not speaking out against bin Laden, etc. is to point out that bin Laden, etc. has nothing to do with Muslims and so they are under no obligation to answer for or speak against him in any way. Bin Laden and other so-called "Islamic" terrorists are not leaders of Muslims, they are in no way representatives of Muslims, and Muslims certainly did not choose them, nor do they look to them for any kind of leadership or guidance. Bin Laden, who has taken it upon himself to issue some fatwas has absolutely no standing to issue a fatwa of any kind.

My second response is to suggest, as I have said already, that if they have not heard Muslims speaking out against bin Laden, etc. they they clearly have not been listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first response to people who insist that Muslims are not speaking out against bin Laden, etc. is to point out that bin Laden, etc. has nothing to do with Muslims and so they are under no obligation to answer for or speak against him in any way. Bin Laden and other so-called &#8220;Islamic&#8221; terrorists are not leaders of Muslims, they are in no way representatives of Muslims, and Muslims certainly did not choose them, nor do they look to them for any kind of leadership or guidance. Bin Laden, who has taken it upon himself to issue some fatwas has absolutely no standing to issue a fatwa of any kind.</p>
<p>My second response is to suggest, as I have said already, that if they have not heard Muslims speaking out against bin Laden, etc. they they clearly have not been listening.</p>
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