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	<title>Comments on: Valerie Plame Wilson and the Ultimate Betrayal</title>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-37262</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a 4th

The hitsquad was part of a wider campaign of baseless information to present a &lt;em&gt;dangerous&lt;/em&gt; AlQaeda to America and the people of the World. The "official" information has been useful to draw upon by Mrs Plame as it firstly highlights her importance (why would she be assassinated?) and secondly it validates her patriotism.

Both the left and the right are milking the above. I feel that with the wealth of material available, the post might have done better avoiding anything to do with the &lt;em&gt;incredible&lt;/em&gt; AlQaeda organisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a 4th</p>
<p>The hitsquad was part of a wider campaign of baseless information to present a <em>dangerous</em> AlQaeda to America and the people of the World. The &#8220;official&#8221; information has been useful to draw upon by Mrs Plame as it firstly highlights her importance (why would she be assassinated?) and secondly it validates her patriotism.</p>
<p>Both the left and the right are milking the above. I feel that with the wealth of material available, the post might have done better avoiding anything to do with the <em>incredible</em> AlQaeda organisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-37259</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troll talks about yachts, must be a Randy Cunningham(R-Jailhouse)staffer, a Rep.Jerry Lewis lobbyist,  or someone who wanted Goss' gambling buddies elevated...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troll talks about yachts, must be a Randy Cunningham(R-Jailhouse)staffer, a Rep.Jerry Lewis lobbyist,  or someone who wanted Goss&#8217; gambling buddies elevated&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36896</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a la norte</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a la norte</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36895</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you're simply obtuse.
CIA Chief Hayden - She was covert
Pat Fitzgerald - She was covert
Judge Reggie Walton - She was covert
Judge John D. Bates - She was covert

Do you read anything but rightwing blogs?  I read court cases, and unless you are going to call the head of the CIA wrong, the prosecutor, the agent herself, and the two judges so far who have heard her case....wrong....then you simply must be rightwing to the point of being lost.

DO YOU have any evidence of this ongoing lie you drop and run with?  Do you have any evidence other than that idiot Toensing telling you this?  Give me a source, just one good solid source, not National Review or principle subject Traitor Robert Novak.  You cannot.
Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re simply obtuse.<br />
CIA Chief Hayden - She was covert<br />
Pat Fitzgerald - She was covert<br />
Judge Reggie Walton - She was covert<br />
Judge John D. Bates - She was covert</p>
<p>Do you read anything but rightwing blogs?  I read court cases, and unless you are going to call the head of the CIA wrong, the prosecutor, the agent herself, and the two judges so far who have heard her case&#8230;.wrong&#8230;.then you simply must be rightwing to the point of being lost.</p>
<p>DO YOU have any evidence of this ongoing lie you drop and run with?  Do you have any evidence other than that idiot Toensing telling you this?  Give me a source, just one good solid source, not National Review or principle subject Traitor Robert Novak.  You cannot.<br />
Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36889</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, that traitor Tenet...

She was the last article, but it was good to see. I missed the Today show, because Matt Lauer sucks, and the show is so long, caught Olbermann.

Larry still has the best interview, and npr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, that traitor Tenet&#8230;</p>
<p>She was the last article, but it was good to see. I missed the Today show, because Matt Lauer sucks, and the show is so long, caught Olbermann.</p>
<p>Larry still has the best interview, and npr.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36885</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was given the proper reference today from Simon Schuster to set something up here.  You can contact me at: mizyongyi7 - at - hotmail
to help set it up and get the word out.

I'd love to have Larry here on panel too, perhaps moderating the discussion, and have put some people to task to find timings and settings.  Perhaps at the local University of Houston.

There are a good core of people here who would come.  And I'm sure KUHT and that yellowbelly KPFT would advertise the event.

I can see if Amy Goodman would want to come down and cover it for Democracy Now.
anyway, tons of options, just be in touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was given the proper reference today from Simon Schuster to set something up here.  You can contact me at: mizyongyi7 - at - hotmail<br />
to help set it up and get the word out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to have Larry here on panel too, perhaps moderating the discussion, and have put some people to task to find timings and settings.  Perhaps at the local University of Houston.</p>
<p>There are a good core of people here who would come.  And I&#8217;m sure KUHT and that yellowbelly KPFT would advertise the event.</p>
<p>I can see if Amy Goodman would want to come down and cover it for Democracy Now.<br />
anyway, tons of options, just be in touch.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36873</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bless you for that!
I abhor spending so much time tracking down the lies and fabrications of this case, but I've tried to be as ubiquitous on the "tv news" sites and editorial boards where people smear and lie.  Drop a tone of first sourced facts on them and they shut up.  I don't get my shit from talking points. I call the DOJ, Senate Intel, HJC, etc and get them.  This stuff is public now and we know that Novak knows less about the CIA than EggHead idiot Hayden and our valiant hero Val Plame.

Finished the NPR interview, and have to say, it and Larry's interview are an excellent pairing.  But nothing beats hearing Larry and Val visit the days at "the farm" and hear this real person share her enthusiasm.

Thanks for smackin down the trolls LJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bless you for that!<br />
I abhor spending so much time tracking down the lies and fabrications of this case, but I&#8217;ve tried to be as ubiquitous on the &#8220;tv news&#8221; sites and editorial boards where people smear and lie.  Drop a tone of first sourced facts on them and they shut up.  I don&#8217;t get my shit from talking points. I call the DOJ, Senate Intel, HJC, etc and get them.  This stuff is public now and we know that Novak knows less about the CIA than EggHead idiot Hayden and our valiant hero Val Plame.</p>
<p>Finished the NPR interview, and have to say, it and Larry&#8217;s interview are an excellent pairing.  But nothing beats hearing Larry and Val visit the days at &#8220;the farm&#8221; and hear this real person share her enthusiasm.</p>
<p>Thanks for smackin down the trolls LJ</p>
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		<title>By: Centrocitta</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36707</link>
		<dc:creator>Centrocitta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....But 2004 was too long ago for me to remember all the power plays then....

I bet you would rememer what was going on if you were affected.  When in 2004 was Valerie in danger?  There were a whole lot of power plays happening during the 4th quarter -- September to December.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.But 2004 was too long ago for me to remember all the power plays then&#8230;.</p>
<p>I bet you would rememer what was going on if you were affected.  When in 2004 was Valerie in danger?  There were a whole lot of power plays happening during the 4th quarter &#8212; September to December.</p>
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		<title>By: Centrocitta</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36701</link>
		<dc:creator>Centrocitta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....Really?  If we don’t believe her, then who should we believe?  Also why would she lie? Just to write a book and make a lot of money? Let’s see.. Who has a proven track record of lying…….the Bush Admin or
Ms. Plame.....

Excellent comments, Bill.  I'm going to start writing my book too! Let's see now, it might open something like this.  "It was October 30, 1996.  Snow was already on the ground in Billings and the children were shivering in their light Holloween costumes as they...."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..Really?  If we don’t believe her, then who should we believe?  Also why would she lie? Just to write a book and make a lot of money? Let’s see.. Who has a proven track record of lying…….the Bush Admin or<br />
Ms. Plame&#8230;..</p>
<p>Excellent comments, Bill.  I&#8217;m going to start writing my book too! Let&#8217;s see now, it might open something like this.  &#8220;It was October 30, 1996.  Snow was already on the ground in Billings and the children were shivering in their light Holloween costumes as they&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; CIA VETERAN: &#8216;YOU CAN&#8217;T MAKE UP SOME OF THE STUFF I&#8217;VE SEEN&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36689</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; CIA VETERAN: &#8216;YOU CAN&#8217;T MAKE UP SOME OF THE STUFF I&#8217;VE SEEN&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and crank calls. She gives no details, but her former colleague, Larry Johnson, writes on his blog, NoQuarterUSA  &#8220;in 2004 the FBI received intelligence that Al Qaeda hit teams were enroute to the United [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and crank calls. She gives no details, but her former colleague, Larry Johnson, writes on his blog, NoQuarterUSA  &#8220;in 2004 the FBI received intelligence that Al Qaeda hit teams were enroute to the United [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick  Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36673</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick  Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger That Leslie..


And she deserves a Briefing from them on the Damage estimate of her OUTTING..

Too damn many Walls and claims of Executive priviledge and Need to Know..SECRECY can Often Mean COVER UP..

Sometimes People have a RIGHT TO KNOW..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger That Leslie..</p>
<p>And she deserves a Briefing from them on the Damage estimate of her OUTTING..</p>
<p>Too damn many Walls and claims of Executive priviledge and Need to Know..SECRECY can Often Mean COVER UP..</p>
<p>Sometimes People have a RIGHT TO KNOW..</p>
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		<title>By: ybnormal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36672</link>
		<dc:creator>ybnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the hit squad speculation just keeps on coming.  Here's my two cents.  Multiple possibilities.

1. at face value, a hit squad was on the way, and was subsequently discovered/thwarted

2. 'chatter' was released about hit squads with no one actually going anywhere, so as to f**k with secret service

3. a hit squad was dispatched as misdirection; like when someone starts a building fire to occupy civic response, while a bank robbery is executed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the hit squad speculation just keeps on coming.  Here&#8217;s my two cents.  Multiple possibilities.</p>
<p>1. at face value, a hit squad was on the way, and was subsequently discovered/thwarted</p>
<p>2. &#8216;chatter&#8217; was released about hit squads with no one actually going anywhere, so as to f**k with secret service</p>
<p>3. a hit squad was dispatched as misdirection; like when someone starts a building fire to occupy civic response, while a bank robbery is executed</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36670</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way the Bush administration treated her was awful enough, but the way the CIA treated her as well is a double betrayal. Now she can finally fight back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way the Bush administration treated her was awful enough, but the way the CIA treated her as well is a double betrayal. Now she can finally fight back.</p>
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		<title>By: ybnormal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36669</link>
		<dc:creator>ybnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, a constructive suggestion:
your most heartfelt comments might stand out better if you used more effort to summarize concisely.

I know this because I often struggle to do it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, a constructive suggestion:<br />
your most heartfelt comments might stand out better if you used more effort to summarize concisely.</p>
<p>I know this because I often struggle to do it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: HoosierHoops</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36656</link>
		<dc:creator>HoosierHoops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly Larry..
You work 20 years for the CIA..Get outed by a corrupt administration and then every rightwing idiot feels he can insult and belittle your service.
It really reveals the true colors of the neo-cons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Larry..<br />
You work 20 years for the CIA..Get outed by a corrupt administration and then every rightwing idiot feels he can insult and belittle your service.<br />
It really reveals the true colors of the neo-cons.</p>
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		<title>By: Waiting in Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36654</link>
		<dc:creator>Waiting in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is that you Karl? Guess since you're no longer at the White House, you've got lots of free time now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is that you Karl? Guess since you&#8217;re no longer at the White House, you&#8217;ve got lots of free time now.</p>
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		<title>By: Waiting in Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36651</link>
		<dc:creator>Waiting in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - where in Houston are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris - where in Houston are you?</p>
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		<title>By: diane</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36647</link>
		<dc:creator>diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think and this just reinforces my thoughts that the real target of the smears was Valerie herself and her husband was just an excuse.
I bet she could shed lots of damaging info on this administration but is "Not allowed to" by the CIA and this administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think and this just reinforces my thoughts that the real target of the smears was Valerie herself and her husband was just an excuse.<br />
I bet she could shed lots of damaging info on this administration but is &#8220;Not allowed to&#8221; by the CIA and this administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36645</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not going to allow idiot, rightwing troll attacks on Val and Joe.  Ass clowns like jagoff, oops, I mean JagCap, are not free to ignore the volumns of data demonstrating beyond any level of doubt that Val was undercover and was working as a NOC when outed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to allow idiot, rightwing troll attacks on Val and Joe.  Ass clowns like jagoff, oops, I mean JagCap, are not free to ignore the volumns of data demonstrating beyond any level of doubt that Val was undercover and was working as a NOC when outed.</p>
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		<title>By: jagcap</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-wilson-and-the-ultimate-betrayal/#comment-36636</link>
		<dc:creator>jagcap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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