Comments on: Bush’s Contempt for Our Soldiers http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/ Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:28:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: They’ve got to be kidding « Chris Tackett’s Blog http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-120935 They’ve got to be kidding « Chris Tackett’s Blog Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:44:48 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-120935 [...] UPDATE 2: SusanUnPC at Larry Franklin’s blog draws some interesting parallels that are worth noting. [...] [...] UPDATE 2: SusanUnPC at Larry Franklin’s blog draws some interesting parallels that are worth noting. [...]

]]> By: Thinker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-61885 Thinker Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:46:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-61885 Susan, as I mentioned in my other reply I see double standards creeping in here. When you send hired killers...and call them what you will, our nations finest, upright soldiers, when you send hired killers out into society expect bad things to happen. I think this recent event will put things in perspective. Today in Perth a young woman was air lifted to hospital with critcal injuries. She apparently had hopped over the fence of her neighbour's house to rescue a puppy in distress. And this puppy really was in distress. It was about to become a meal for two starving big bull mastifs. Unfortunately, in her charity, the woman became a much more favourable object as a much needed meal. The police, for once, arrived in time and attemped to tazer the dogs to no avail and they were eventually shot. Was the dogs owner wrong in starving his/her dogs to provide an extra perceived level of sercurity? The dogs were there to protect the premises and a woman trespassed. Although she trespassed in good will, following her <strong>conscience</strong> to rescue a little puppy in distress. Now apply that analogy to the troops in Iraq. The troops are the big dogs and the Iraq innocents are the young woman following her conscience. The owner of the home in Perth felt there was a need for security and there are certainly criminal elements in Perth as there are in Iraq. <strong>But when security defies conscience isn't that an attack on God?</strong> Isn't that the time to say we must stop this? I love your posts about withdrawing the troops no questions asked, but any attempt to <em>validate</em> their role I cannot accept. Susan, as I mentioned in my other reply I see double standards creeping in here. When you send hired killers…and call them what you will, our nations finest, upright soldiers, when you send hired killers out into society expect bad things to happen. I think this recent event will put things in perspective.

Today in Perth a young woman was air lifted to hospital with critcal injuries. She apparently had hopped over the fence of her neighbour’s house to rescue a puppy in distress. And this puppy really was in distress. It was about to become a meal for two starving big bull mastifs. Unfortunately, in her charity, the woman became a much more favourable object as a much needed meal.

The police, for once, arrived in time and attemped to tazer the dogs to no avail and they were eventually shot.

Was the dogs owner wrong in starving his/her dogs to provide an extra perceived level of sercurity? The dogs were there to protect the premises and a woman trespassed. Although she trespassed in good will, following her conscience to rescue a little puppy in distress. Now apply that analogy to the troops in Iraq. The troops are the big dogs and the Iraq innocents are the young woman following her conscience.

The owner of the home in Perth felt there was a need for security and there are certainly criminal elements in Perth as there are in Iraq. But when security defies conscience isn’t that an attack on God? Isn’t that the time to say we must stop this?

I love your posts about withdrawing the troops no questions asked, but any attempt to validate their role I cannot accept.

]]> By: OleHippieChick http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60606 OleHippieChick Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:31:53 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60606 "Criminal conspiracy." Put IT back on the table, Nancy. “Criminal conspiracy.”

Put IT back on the table, Nancy.

]]> By: mudkitty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60500 mudkitty Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:25:23 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60500 Look, then it means Bush is incompetent. Look, then it means Bush is incompetent.

]]> By: Delia http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60497 Delia Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:23:55 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60497 Unfortunately, everyone, according to TPM, McClellan doesn't have the spine to go after his old boss after all. Today his publisher is assuring everyone that all he's saying is that Bush <em>unknowingly</em> misled him. Of course he did. False alarm. Go back to sleep. Georgie is an honorable man. So are they all, all honorable men. Shit. http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/11/publisher_of_mc.php Unfortunately, everyone, according to TPM, McClellan doesn’t have the spine to go after his old boss after all. Today his publisher is assuring everyone that all he’s saying is that Bush unknowingly misled him. Of course he did. False alarm. Go back to sleep. Georgie is an honorable man. So are they all, all honorable men.

Shit.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/11/publisher_of_mc.php

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60355 SusanUnPC Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:19:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60355 YES! WE CAN HOPE! I could post some quotable about it but I'd far rather read what Larry has to say on the entire matter since <strong>Larry is a true expert </strong>on the entire chronology, and minutae, of the case. YES! WE CAN HOPE! I could post some quotable about it but I’d far rather read what Larry has to say on the entire matter since Larry is a true expert on the entire chronology, and minutae, of the case.

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60353 SusanUnPC Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:17:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60353 A legend in his own mind. A legend in his own mind.

]]> By: Donovan Fraser http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60340 Donovan Fraser Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:22:30 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60340 I saw this McClellan thing and i am so happy for Valerie and Joe. Finally the truth is oozing out of this miasma called the bush administration.Of course it takes another one of these bums peddling a book to get the truth, but I'll take it never the less. if Bush and Company makes it through his term WITHOUT being brought to IMPEACHMENT or charges, then we don't deserve to be called a nation of laws and we should just shut our pie holes on preaching democracy . What do you have to do to get impeached in this day and age? screw sheep on the white house lawn in front of FOXNEWS camera's while saying there is no God? WTF? I saw this McClellan thing and i am so happy for Valerie and Joe. Finally the truth is oozing out of this miasma called the bush administration.Of course it takes another one of these bums peddling a book to get the truth, but I’ll take it never the less.
if Bush and Company makes it through his term WITHOUT being brought to IMPEACHMENT or charges, then we don’t deserve to be called a nation of laws and we should just shut our pie holes on preaching democracy .

What do you have to do to get impeached in this day and age? screw sheep on the white house lawn in front of FOXNEWS camera’s while saying there is no God?
WTF?

]]> By: mudkitty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60320 mudkitty Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:26:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60320 I imagine Mr. Johnson will be spending quite a bit of time over the holiday, planning what he's going to write about what McClellan has to say, in his upcoming book, about the Valerie Wilson/CIA Opporative leak. I imagine Mr. Johnson will be spending quite a bit of time over the holiday, planning what he’s going to write about what McClellan has to say, in his upcoming book, about the Valerie Wilson/CIA Opporative leak.

]]> By: Taters http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60220 Taters Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:02:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60220 I recall as a child in Japan seeing WW2 Japanese veterans blinded or missing limbs that were begging in the street, still in their uniforms. We have seen that kind of shameful treatment here with our Vietnam and Gulf War vets. Our veterans deserve better. Sadly, there is a signature wound of Iraq/Afghanistan veterans, perhaps the equivalent of Agent Orange in Vietnam. Brain Injury Trauma. Even Stalin funded soldiers who had suffered from BIT. Not for compassionate reasons, simply to get them back in the field. The father of neuropsychology, Alexandr Luria, was a pioneer in the field of brain injury trauma. http://www.pubserv.com/mitecs/pdf/cole.pdf#search='stalin%20neuropsychology%20brain%20injury' http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-03-03-brain-trauma-lede_x.htm I recall as a child in Japan seeing WW2 Japanese veterans blinded or missing limbs that were begging in the street, still in their uniforms. We have seen that kind of shameful treatment here with our Vietnam and Gulf War vets. Our veterans deserve better.

Sadly, there is a signature wound of Iraq/Afghanistan veterans, perhaps the equivalent of Agent Orange in Vietnam. Brain Injury Trauma.

Even Stalin funded soldiers who had suffered from BIT. Not for compassionate reasons, simply to get them back in the field. The father of neuropsychology, Alexandr Luria, was a pioneer in the field of brain injury trauma.

http://www.pubserv.com/mitecs/pdf/cole.pdf#search=’stalin%20neuropsychology%20brain%20injury’

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-03-03-brain-trauma-lede_x.htm

]]> By: HoosierHoops http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60183 HoosierHoops Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:50:53 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60183 Larry: Check out MSN this morning: Headlines: McCLellan: Bush Misled public on CIA The Press Sec. says both the president and vice president involved in leaking Val's Name!!!!!!!! This is big! I mean..this ain't no 2nd rate break in at watergate..The president was involved in a very serious act of breaking the law.. To Quote from his book " I had unknowingly passed along false information. and five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice president, the president's chief of staff and the president himself." I hope this story gains traction...now i'm willing to discuss high crimes as we read in the constitution. CAUSE IT IS A CRIME! Not a policy..not a military action..not a political course of action..But a crime! Larry: Check out MSN this morning:
Headlines:
McCLellan: Bush Misled public on CIA
The Press Sec. says both the president and vice president involved in leaking Val’s Name!!!!!!!!
This is big! I mean..this ain’t no 2nd rate break in at watergate..The president was involved in a very serious act of breaking the law..
To Quote from his book ” I had unknowingly passed along false information. and five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice president, the president’s chief of staff and the president himself.”

I hope this story gains traction…now i’m willing to discuss high crimes as we read in the constitution. CAUSE IT IS A CRIME! Not a policy..not a military action..not a political course of action..But a crime!

]]> By: Graybeard http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60084 Graybeard Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:33:17 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-60084 Our only hope will be President Lou Dobbs. www.LouDobbs4President.com GB Our only hope will be President Lou Dobbs.
http://www.LouDobbs4President.com

GB

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-59878 SusanUnPC Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:55:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-59878 <strong>BUSH'S VETO INCLUDES FUNDING FOR HOMELESS VETERANS</strong> -- <a href="http://murray.senate.gov/news.cfm?id=287454" rel="nofollow">From Sen. Murray's Web site</a>: Senator Murray released the following statement after President Bush vetoed the bill: "Today President Bush said no to nurses in Spokane, low-income students in Seattle, and forest workers in Lewis County. He dashed the hopes of the uninsured in Olympia, new parents in Tacoma, and homeless veterans across the country. He did so under the guise of being a fiscal conservative, but nobody's fooled." "While this President puts one hand out for another $196 billion for the war, he stamps a veto on investments in our future with the other. By vetoing this critical funding the President reaffirmed that educating our kids, treating our sick, and building our workforce are secondary to the War in Iraq. "I will work with my Senate colleagues to override the Presidents veto and bring these much needed federal dollars to our state." BUSH’S VETO INCLUDES FUNDING FOR HOMELESS VETERANS — From Sen. Murray’s Web site:

Senator Murray released the following statement after President Bush vetoed the bill:

“Today President Bush said no to nurses in Spokane, low-income students in Seattle, and forest workers in Lewis County. He dashed the hopes of the uninsured in Olympia, new parents in Tacoma, and homeless veterans across the country. He did so under the guise of being a fiscal conservative, but nobody’s fooled.”

“While this President puts one hand out for another $196 billion for the war, he stamps a veto on investments in our future with the other. By vetoing this critical funding the President reaffirmed that educating our kids, treating our sick, and building our workforce are secondary to the War in Iraq.

“I will work with my Senate colleagues to override the Presidents veto and bring these much needed federal dollars to our state.”

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-59877 SusanUnPC Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:50:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-59877 Slightly OT / from my senator, Patty Murray: <a href="http://aiss.enews.senate.gov/t/26385/1576033/710/0/" rel="nofollow">Veterans: Shocking News Report Reveals Frequency of Veterans Suicides</a> Last week Senator Murray talked about the CBS News report.- On Wednesday (11/14), I spoke on the Senate floor in response to a sad and shocking CBS News report that revealed new figures on the number of veterans who have committed suicide. CBS News' five-month investigation into veteran suicides found that at least 120 Americans who served in the U.S. military killed themselves every week in 2005. That’s at least 6,256 veteran suicides in one year – a rate twice that of other Americans. ::::::::::: MORE BUSH HANDIWORK: <strong>WA Heath, Labor, and Education: Bush Vetoes Nearly $8 Million for our State</strong> On Tuesday (11/13), President Bush vetoed a critical spending bill that included funding for health, education, and labor projects throughout Washington state. <a href="http://aiss.enews.senate.gov/t/26385/1576033/718/0/" rel="nofollow">View</a> the projects the President vetoed funding for in your area. Slightly OT / from my senator, Patty Murray:

Veterans: Shocking News Report Reveals Frequency of Veterans Suicides

Last week Senator Murray talked about the CBS News report.-
On Wednesday (11/14), I spoke on the Senate floor in response to a sad and shocking CBS News report that revealed new figures on the number of veterans who have committed suicide. CBS News’ five-month investigation into veteran suicides found that at least 120 Americans who served in the U.S. military killed themselves every week in 2005. That’s at least 6,256 veteran suicides in one year – a rate twice that of other Americans.

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MORE BUSH HANDIWORK:

WA Heath, Labor, and Education: Bush Vetoes Nearly $8 Million for our State

On Tuesday (11/13), President Bush vetoed a critical spending bill that included funding for health, education, and labor projects throughout Washington state.

View the projects the President vetoed funding for in your area.

]]> By: Neil http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-59847 Neil Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:02:37 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/20/bushs-contempt-for-our-soldiers/#comment-59847 Next time you hear some *ss wipe rethuglican disparage Henry Waxmen for his oversight investigations or praise a rubberstamp Republican representative of the day, like Issa (R-CA), for being dismissive about the claims, don't forget how vigorously they pursued the vet and how lamely they pursued their campaign contributers and NO BID fortune 500 subcontracters. This is YOUR MONEY people. If you don't understand how Washington is broken by now, re-read this story. The purpose of government has been subverted by Bush and Cheney and Delay and Abramoff to be the legal theft of your wealth and your children's wealth. I hope there is a god and I hope she has her day of vengence because the day of judgement for Bush and Cheney and their cast of co-conspiritors will not come on this earth. Next time you hear some *ss wipe rethuglican disparage Henry Waxmen for his oversight investigations or praise a rubberstamp Republican representative of the day, like Issa (R-CA), for being dismissive about the claims, don’t forget how vigorously they pursued the vet and how lamely they pursued their campaign contributers and NO BID fortune 500 subcontracters. This is YOUR MONEY people.

If you don’t understand how Washington is broken by now, re-read this story.

The purpose of government has been subverted by Bush and Cheney and Delay and Abramoff to be the legal theft of your wealth and your children’s wealth.

I hope there is a god and I hope she has her day of vengence because the day of judgement for Bush and Cheney and their cast of co-conspiritors will not come on this earth.

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