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Treason is Not Old News

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Joe and Valerie Wilson

“I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious, of traitors.” George Herbert Walker Bush, CIA dedication ceremony, April 26, 1999.

        When Bush administration officials I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Karl Rove, Richard Armitage and Ari Fleischer betrayed Valerie Plame Wilson’s identity as a covert CIA operations officer, they fell into the category of “the most insidious of traitors.” Now we learn from the President’s former press secretary, Scott McClellan, that the President himself “was involved” in sending him out to lie to the American public about the betrayal. If his direction to McClellan was deliberate and knowing, then the President was party to a conspiracy by senior administration officials to defraud the public. If that isn’t a high crime and misdemeanor then we don’t know what is. And if the President was merely an unwitting accomplice, then who lied to him? What is he doing to punish the person who misled the President to abuse his office? And why is that person still working in the executive branch? Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald made clear his suspicions about the culprit when he said “a cloud remains over the office of the Vice President”. But we may never know exactly what happened because President Bush thwarted justice and guaranteed the success of the cover-up when he commuted Scooter Libby’s felony sentence on four counts of lying, perjury and obstruction of justice.

        With the exception of MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, and the intrepid David Shuster, the mainstream media would have you believe that McClellan’s revelation is old news. “Now back to Aruba and the two-year old disappearance of a blond teenager.” But treason is not old news. The Washington press corps, whose pretension is to report and interpret events objectively, has been compromised in this matter as evidence presented in the courtroom demonstrated. Prominent journalists acted as witting agents of Rove, Libby and Armitage and covered up this serious breach of U.S. national security rather than doing their duty as journalists to report it to the public.

        So far there is no apparent desire for redemption driving the press to report on the treachery of senior officials. Instead, the mainstream press has compounded its complicity by giving the Bush administration yet another free pass and shifting blame. The New York Times failed to publish an article on McClellan’s revelation and The Washington Post buried it at the end of a column deep on page A-15 in the newspaper. Earlier in the week, Newsweek magazine, owned by the Washington Post Company, proudly announced the identity of its new star columnist—Karl Rove, one of the key actors in this collective treason. Robert Novak, who willfully disclosed Valerie’s identity, having been twice warned not to do so by the CIA, and who transmitted his column to Rove before it was published, remains a regularly featured columnist in The Washington Post.

        With nearly 70 percent of the public now believing that our country is on the wrong track, it is no wonder that many feel let down by major institutions, including the Washington press establishment that increasingly resembles the corrupt Soviet propaganda mill. One reporter from a major news organization even asked whether McClellan’s statement wasn’t just “another Wilson publicity stunt.” Try following this tortuous logic: Dick Cheney runs an operation involving senior White House officials designed to betray the identity of a covert CIA officer and the press responds by trying to prove that the Wilsons are publicity seekers. What ever happened to reporting the news? Welcome to “Through the Looking Glass.”

Fearful of its access to the powerful, and defensive about its status in the high school social culture that permeates the capital of the Free World, much of the press has forgotten its responsibility to the public and the Constitution.

        Presidents and those who aspired to be president in the past once took strong positions in defense of U.S. national security. Today, Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson has tried to build his support through fronting for the Scooter Libby Defense fundraising efforts. Meanwhile, other Republican candidates accuse Patrick Fitzgerald of being “a runaway prosecutor” and remain silent about the stain on Bush’s presidency.

        Where is the outrage? Where is the “contempt and anger?”

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Comment by reggie | 2007-11-23 08:04:18

Good luck Val and Joe.

There’s also a grand indictment of the media regarding the Sibel Edmonds case, which may yet blow the whole treasonous shower out of the water:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5260

 

Comment by Annie | 2007-11-23 08:16:47

At this juncture, bloggers, readers and commenters seem to be the sole patriotic voices.

And so, IMHO, we need to use this venue to continue to call for a full investigation, to name the acts as treasonous, and to continue to make as much noise about it until the readers and viewers of the traditional media get the message.

It is probable that traditional media will never cover the story, as it is now controlled by corporations which have interests contrary to that of we the people.

FWIW, I have been commenting on every traditional media venue which allows it, that the Faustian Five (Bush, Cheney, Rove, Card and Libby) are traitors and must be tried as such.

Thank you for writing this.

Comment by cruzdelsur | 2007-11-23 17:16:23

So let’s get started!
http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/bush_war_criminal.htm

“Under George Bush, the CIA leaked a false report that not only cleared Chile’s military dictatorship - it pointed the FBI in the wrong direction. The bogus CIA assessment, was spread through Newsweek magazine and other American media outlets, was planted despite CIA’s now admitted awareness at the time that Chile was participating in Operation Condor, a cross-border campaign targeting political dissidents, and the CIA’s own suspicions that the Chilean junta was behind the terrorist bombing in Washington,”

 
 

Comment by Taters | 2007-11-23 08:28:52

Yes Larry, one would think the McClellan revelation would have been the lede on pg1 every major newpaper and news outlet.
Rove & Newsweek disgusts me. My mother in law is cancelling her subscription. Ours won’t be renewed either. Thank God we have Joe Galloway and you. HT TruBluMike

Commentary: Good riddance to them all
Joseph L. Galloway | McClatchy Newspapers

last updated: November 21, 2007 06:24:25 PM

There was little for the unindicted co-conspirators of the Bush administration to give thanks for this week as the clock winds down on the 14 months they have left in power.

With former White House press secretary Scott McClellan spilling the beans on who told him to lie to the American people and cover up the White House’s responsibility for the criminal act of revealing the identity of a covert CIA officer, it clearly was time for some folks to begin drafting their requests for presidential pardons.

McClellan, in a forthcoming book that will tell some, if not all, reveals that his 2003 statements absolving top White House aides Karl Rove and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby of any involvement in leaking the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame were untrue — and that the orders to make those statements came from President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, White House chief of staff Andrew Card, Rove and Libby.

McClellan’s revelation makes it abundantly clear that a subsequent statement by Bush that White House aides had no involvement in outing Ms. Plame, and that anyone who did would be fired was also, shall we say, inoperative.

It also confirms long-held suspicions that the whole despicable affair — an attempt to punish former Ambassador Joseph Wilson for debunking a bit of the bogus intelligence the administration wheeled out to justify invading Iraq — was orchestrated in the offices of Bush and Cheney, and with their knowledge.

It also might shed new light on why Bush quickly commuted Cheney’s hatchet man Libby’s prison sentence after he was convicted on four counts of lying to federal investigators. It simply wouldn’t do to have Libby rolling over on his bosses.

Somehow, I have a strong feeling that this isn’t the only or the last revelation of wrong-doing and criminality that we’re likely to hear before and after Bush and Co. leave office, or that additional presidential acts of clemency will be needed to spare other top administration officials from prison and buy their silence.

What we’ve witnessed and endured during seven long years of the Bush presidency is the inevitable consequence of bringing vicious and unprincipled but successful political campaigners — attack dogs — into top White House jobs.

cont’d
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/galloway/v-print/story/21921.html

 

Comment by Graybeard | 2007-11-23 09:01:04

Would impeachment prevent pardons?

GB

 

Comment by ravenmad | 2007-11-23 10:21:03

good question GB. here’s another: can the treason pres grant blanket pardons for crimes being investigated but not charged before he slinks out of town? if not we should hope any investigation takes plenty of time. if so, impeachment is imperative. don’t the media and the spineless dems realize we are in danger of losing our republic? or am I just a crazy extremist?

 

Comment by ravenmad | 2007-11-23 10:30:24

another question: is the special prosecuter still in business? I ask because we know the next pres will not go after pinhead. either because he is a repug (kiss the USA as we have proudly known it g’bye), or because she won’t face the political fallout; accusations of payback, bitchiness, etc. bloomberg anyone?

 

Comment by graywolf | 2007-11-23 10:56:47

Maybe Fitzgerald should have subpoenaed McClellan (who I recall as being a particularly inept and tongue-tied spokesman).
Probably Fitzgerald (certainly no friend of the White House) concluded that McClellan had nothing.

McClellan’s publisher wants to sell books.
This is America; follow the money.

 

Comment by Waiting in Texas | 2007-11-23 10:58:32

“Where is the outrage, where is the contempt and anger.”

Joe and Valerie,

I personally share your outrage and anger as many of us do here at NQ, but ultimately, our outrage, it’s not enough. That is what I find so frustrating. WHAT CAN WE DO?!!!!

The blogs are an important tool and people like Matthews, Olbermann, and Schuster see what we all see, but then, a brick wall. We have got to find that one loose string and start pulling.

Your case keeps popping up and never really goes away, as it shouldn’t. Its quite obvious, even before McClellan’s book revelation, that this went all the way to the Oval Office via the VP’s office.

By the way Valerie, I sent a strongly worded letter to Larry King for cutting your segment short. That really pissed me off.

PS. If a Democrat is elected in 2008, I hope they make you Director of the CIA. As they say, payback is a bitch.

Comment by Rick Derrig | 2007-12-03 13:33:08

Is this a loose thread that should be tested? Armitage says he received the info that Valerie was CIA in a memo -who was the source of that memo? Another point of note from the Libby investigation was the notation, or comment, by Libby stating that revealing her would “cause problems at CIA” -indicating she was “knowingly” exposed, right? Maybe Fitz didn’t think that was strong enough to convict, but, to me, pretty damning…

Rick

 
 

Comment by Waiting in Texas | 2007-11-23 11:25:19

“Where is the outrage? Where is the “contempt and anger?”

Joe and Valerie,
Firstly, I just want to say that the both of you are the definition of true patriots in my book and I have so much respect for the both of you. Saying thanks for your service to our country, just doesn’t seem to be enough.

I too share your outrage as many of us do here at NQ, but ultimately, our outrage, it’s not enough. That is what I find so frustrating. The blogs and especially Larry’s, are an important tool. People like Matthews, Schuster and Olbermann see what we all see, then it seems to hit a brick wall. WHAT CAN WE DO?!!!!

McClellan’s revelations only confirm what the rest of us already knew - this goes straight to the Oval Office via the VP’s office.

We have got to find that one loose string and pull…….

By the way Valerie, I sent a strongly worded and terse letter to Larry King for cutting your segment short. That really pissed me off.

I hope that the next administration will make you the Director of the CIA. You know the old saying, payback is a bitch.

 

Comment by Waiting in Texas | 2007-11-23 11:26:46

Larry is there a posting problem? I’ve tried twice now.

Comment by Leslie | 2007-11-23 16:31:55

Waiting in Texas,
For some reason your first comment was in the spam filter. I recovered it for you. But you’ve got about 4 or 5 duplicate comments?

Comment by Waiting in Texas | 2007-11-23 21:26:34

Leslie-I emailed Larry about the duplicates as I was having problems this morning when trying to post. Please accept my apologies for the duplicate posts. Can you remove them?

 
 
 

Comment by Waiting in Texas | 2007-11-23 11:31:58

“Where is the outrage? Where is the “contempt and anger?”

Joe and Valerie,
Firstly, I just want to say that the both of you are the definition of true patriots in my book and I have so much respect for the both of you. Saying thanks for your service to our country, just doesn’t seem to be enough.

I too share your outrage as many of us do here at NQ, but ultimately, our outrage, it’s not enough. That is what I find so frustrating. The blogs and especially Larry’s, are an important tool. People like Matthews, Schuster and Olbermann see what we all see, then it seems to hit a brick wall. WHAT CAN WE DO?!!!!

McClellan’s revelations only confirm what the rest of us already knew - this goes straight to the Oval Office via the VP’s office.

We have got to find that one loose string and pull…….

By the way Valerie, I sent a strongly worded and terse letter to Larry King for cutting your segment short. That really pissed me off.

I hope that the next administration will make you the Director of the CIA. You know the old saying, payback is a bitch.

 

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2007-11-23 11:33:37

Accepting a Pardon is an admission of guilt, and that would make Dubya party to the act.

He’d be under contempt and subject charges for that.

Thus the Commutation.

Fitzgerald is Counsel past Dubya’s days in office. He can follow up on the Pardon list.

Bring It On.

 

Comment by Waiting in Texas | 2007-11-23 11:35:18

“Where is the outrage? Where is the “contempt and anger?”

Joe and Valerie,
Firstly, I just want to say that the both of you are the definition of true patriots in my book and I have so much respect for the both of you. Saying thanks for your service to our country, just doesn’t seem to be enough.

I too share your outrage as many of us do here at NQ, but ultimately, our outrage, it’s not enough. That is what I find so frustrating. The blogs and especially Larry’s, are an important tool. People like Matthews, Schuster and Olbermann see what we all see, then it seems to hit a brick wall. WHAT CAN WE DO?!!!!

McClellan’s revelations only confirm what the rest of us already knew - this goes straight to the Oval Office via the VP’s office.

We have got to find that one loose string and pull…….

By the way Valerie, I sent a strongly worded and terse letter to Larry King for cutting your segment short. That really pissed me off!

I hope that the next administration will make you the Director of the CIA. You know the old saying, payback is a bitch.

 

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2007-11-23 11:46:27

As for Sibel Edmonds,
She should simply have her lawyer state everything she plans on saying.

Attorney Client Privilege.

That is a Constitutional guarantee of right.
Let’s see which Judge shits all over the very framework of the legal system to enforce Bushco.’s Boy-King act as precedence.

A person cannot tell thier Counsel that someone else is breaking the law, and have that Lawyer state so, in public or on the record?

 

Comment by Waiting in Texas | 2007-11-23 11:48:22

“Where is the outrage? Where is the “contempt and anger?”

Joe and Valerie,
Firstly, I just want to say that the both of you are the definition of true patriots in my book and I have so much respect for the both of you. Saying thanks for your service to our country, just doesn’t seem to be enough.

I too share your outrage as many of us do here at NQ, but ultimately, our outrage, it’s not enough. That is what I find so frustrating. The blogs and especially Larry’s, are an important tool. People like Matthews, Schuster and Olbermann see what we all see, then it seems to hit a brick wall. WHAT CAN WE DO?!!!!

McClellan’s revelations only confirm what the rest of us already know - IMO, this goes straight to the Oval Office via the VP’s office.

We have got to find that one loose string and pull…….

By the way Valerie, I sent a strongly worded and terse letter to Larry King for cutting your segment short. That really pissed me off.

I hope that the next administration will make you the Director of the CIA. You know the old saying, payback is a bitch.

 

Comment by GSD | 2007-11-23 11:50:01

The lamestream media is so compromised and corrupt it is creaking and decaying before our eyes.

Bob Novak should be driven into the swamps and the Bush cabal should stand trial for high crimes and misdemeanors.

If America was the America that we knew and loved. Sadly it has been twisted beyond recognition by a small pack of traitors.

Thanks for your dedication to the Old America, Mr. Ambassador and Mrs. Wilson.

-GSD

Comment by Kathleen | 2007-11-23 17:24:51

Out an undercover CIA agent (Rove, Fleisher, Libby, Novak, Cheney) and continue to repeat “packs of lies” all over US airwaves. Lie about a blowjob under oath and get impeached. This is justice in the USA…and the whole world is watching even if most Americans try to stay asleep.

Comment by TomDem | 2007-11-24 18:00:38

Hey, only 50% of us are sleeping
(sigh)

 
 
 

Comment by oldtree | 2007-11-23 12:08:30

This is still the most important story we have going in this country. It is relevant to everything else because it shows they will lie about treason. Our government will lie to the courts and the people about having committed treason.
If they will do that, how can we not suspect the same people are agents of a foreign power? They are actively doing all they can to destroy the country, but no one is willing to consider they are working for someone else to loot the treasury?
They have to have a place to go after they are indicted here in our country, or they have to declare martial law and try to run the coup that ends this country. Countries without extradition treaties.

it was treason. it is treason to allow them to remain in power.

 

Comment by Blue | 2007-11-23 12:32:53

Belief Bias and Perseverance.
I think that it’s just too much for the media who so recklessly assisted this administration in their lies, to fully admit and report on their crimes. And the public is too brainwashed, too busy shopping, to wrap their minds around it all.

 

Comment by PrchrLady | 2007-11-23 12:54:13

Thank you Joe and Valerie for your Patriotism, and contined service to this Country. Your honesty and fortitude in facing this corrupt and deceitful administration is an act of heroism to be cherished and emulated. I wish you both joy and happiness in all you do…

This truly was an act of terrorism and TREASON. And I too have to wonder about another countries involvement in the inner walls of our government. Bush’s family ties to former Nazis and his family relations with Saudi Arabia, give one to pause. Esp in light of the planeload of Saudis whisked out of the US on Nov. 12…

Val, thank you for your book, and telling your story. I thought it was VERY well done, and I hope you will write more books in the future…

Unfortunately, many other govt workers as well as private sector workers have had these kinds of nightmares occur to them as well… Yours was different, in that it involves treason, and it should not go unpunished one day longer. I pray your success in bringing the guilty to justice.

 

Comment by Aeon | 2007-11-23 13:03:37

Mario Cumo issued a call to 2,000 of the most influential lawyers in the US to
TAKE THEIR PROTESTS TO THE STREETS —


“If US lawyers are marching in the streets in support of the rule of law in Pakistan……. why aren’t we marching in support of the rule of law here?”

Perhaps, perhaps…the tide will change?

See link below for details.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/our-lady-of-the-law/#more-13065

 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 13:50:28

Fearful of its access to the powerful, and defensive about its status in the high school social culture that permeates the capital of the Free World, much of the press has forgotten its responsibility to the public and the Constitution.

Truth, (small ‘t’ please). That is the responsibilty of the press. Sorry, they simply have no other.

If the Constitution is contradictory to itself (and it is sometimes), they are required to point it out, and if the public is likewise, they are likewise required to grind the public’s nose in that fact.

But you can’t sell newspapers that way, and you can’t get net share that way, and our stockholders won’t stand for it.

Yes, I know. But there it is.

Truth.

 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 13:54:42

One reporter from a major news organization even asked whether McClellan’s statement wasn’t just “another Wilson publicity stunt.”

Jeez Louise. Anybody know who said this? C’mon, dammit, Name names.

 

Comment by SirScud | 2007-11-23 14:23:12

INCOMING>>>>>>
I concur with “reggie” in that the censorship of Sibel Edmonds’ attempt to expose the corruption of the Justice Department is indicative of the collusion between our corporate owned/controlled media and our national government. While her situation and that of Valerie Plame Wilson differs in substance, it is what they have in common that is the most troublesome; namely that they are being prevented from telling the truth about corruption at high levels in our government by the very officials that have been practicing the corruption. It is time that we as a people put an end to our government officials being allowed to hide their treasonous and criminal acts behind the veil of “national secrecy privilege” once and for all!
I say let’s put all of the dirty secrets on the proverbial table, continuing our misplaced loyalty to the current system of secrecy is not protecting the United States and it’s people, it is aiding and abetting the very people that are corrupting all of our public institutions. How is it that intelligent and educated people have come to believe that it is acceptable to fear telling the truth, and patriotic to adhere to promises that facilitate corruption and crimes against humanity?

 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 14:41:18

With the exception of MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews,

I just reread the piece, and burst out laughing.

Chris Matthews?

Seriously, Chris Mattthews?

I just checked my calendar, and it’s not 1 Apr. But I am starting to smell a tuna.

Comment by Kathleen | 2007-11-23 16:30:19

You obviously do not watch Matthews. He has been hammering hard for four years. Hi furious that loyal and naive soldiers have died based on a “pack of lies”. He was one of the first mainstreamers to go into Walter Reed and air numerous shows on returning and injured soldiers. Don’t get me wrong I do not agree with everything Matthews says or his focus at times. But there is no fucking doubt that he has been hammering about the substantiated claims about Iran, the seriousness of the outing of Plame, the commuting of Libby, etc. etc. He realizes he was partially duped before the invasion and part of the “groupthink” that went on before the illegal and immoral invasion (although he was not as bad as some) Hell I swear the right wing zealots will not even come on his program any longer.

Turn on the lights and turn on Matthews and then you might have a leg to stand on. That fish you smell must be your very own thinking rotting.

Comment by Shirin | 2007-11-23 16:49:00

Yeah, Chris Matthews is a real gem! He’s the guy who before the attack on Afghanistan was bitching loudly and stridently about how it was going to spoil everything when Afghan people would respond to U.S. bombing attacks by running out of their tents (the racist ignoramus doesn’t realize that Afghans don’t live in tents) waving their bloody hands, creating a P.R. problem for the U.S. How thoughtless of Afghan people for not being more accommodating by remaining quietly in their “tents” and not showing anyone the human consequences of bombing countries.

Sorry, that racist a****** doesn’t have anything to say that could possibly interest me.

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 22:06:13

Thanks for that, Shirin, and by way of reminder, folks: Tweety is from Planet Showbiz. He’s not a journalsit.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 14:51:30

Just reread it again. The language in this piece is inconsistent with previous writings of Joe Wilson. It’s just not his “style”.

Larry?

Comment by Larry Johnson | 2007-11-23 18:17:19

I’ll be sure to tell Joe that the piece he sent me, from his personal email, was not written by him. Chris, what drugs you using dude? Lighten up.

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 21:26:52

Thanks for that, Larry, I am well rebuked. [hangs head in sorrow]

 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 21:32:04

Now explain his affinity for Chris Matthews.

 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 21:46:23

I’m serious. It’s wildly inconsistent with who he is and what he and Val have done.

 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 21:58:33

If you think I’m crazy based on what I’ve already written, you’re in for a treat, ’cause now I’m gonna go way, way out on a limb.

You are the recipient of Joe’s application to work at MSNBC as commentator. Read it again. There’s no other way to explain it.

 
 
 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 15:17:17

Let me put it another way: Joe and Val have each, in their respective ways, been schooled in the art of understated and effective persuasion.

This is neither. It’s bomb throwing.

I again contend: Joe and Valerie had no hand in this.

Larry?

Comment by Leslie | 2007-11-23 17:40:54

Chris,
What is your problem? Who died and made you an expert on the Wilsons’s writing style?

The Wilsons are contributors to this blog, and Larry is friends with them.

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 21:16:23

Leslie writes: What is your problem? Who died and made you an expert on the Wilsons’s writing style?

Nobody, I hope. Nevertheless, I’ve read enough of Joe’s writing, and heard enough of his speaking, to say what I did. Again, I smell a tuna.

Larry?

[laughing}Leslie?

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 21:19:48

Joe? Valerie? [laughing]

 
 
 
 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2007-11-23 15:35:28

And another thing: Both Joe and Val speak, and write, in sentences. The weird run-on thing provided does not do this.

Larry?

 

Comment by Bustednuckles | 2007-11-23 15:46:39

The government should be shut down and this investigated and prosecuted, period.
All I keep hearing is that impeachment is a distraction. AS A MATTER OF FACT,
Valerie Wilson said this herself last month in Portland Oregon at her book tour date there.
She was asked by a member of the audience what she thought about the impeachment proceedings against Dick Cheney.
I was there and heard it myself.
I would not have believed it if I had not personally heard it.
The lady has the patience of a saint.
I thought about asking her if she had ever considered just calling up Cheney and asking him to go quail hunting.

Comment by Kathleen | 2007-11-23 16:48:39

I swear the Republicans could take the 2008 election if they led the Impeachment of Cheney train. Well RAmsey Clark and Kucinich have been on this for years now, but you know the Republicans could spin it like it was their idea.

What a kick in the ass this would be for most of the Democrats who have not had the balls to push for Impeachment.

We know the Republicans would not be doing it for the right reasons (they had the chance) but what the hell….would like to see the Impeachment train leave the station.

 
 

Comment by Kathleen | 2007-11-23 16:15:47

Have yet to see an article in the New York Times about McClellan dropping his truth bomb on the Bush administration. Although I did not go through it page by page today. Nothing on Washington Journal the last several mornings.

I remember hearing Zbigniew Brezinski asking “where is the outrage” a few years ago.

I witnessed plenty of outrage at the anti-invasion marches in )Oct 2002, Nov or Dec 2002 and then in February 2003 in New York City. At all three of these anti-invasion marches, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, Desert Storm Vets, families pushing baby strollers and seniors in wheel chairs, plumbers, teachers, social workers, lawyers, Republicans (I talked to plenty) students ete marched against the invasion. Hundreds of folks I audio and video taped expressed well informed opinions based on what they were hearing from Scott Ritter, former Cia analyst, Iaea’s El Baradei etc. When the MSm did cover these marches they would show the same footage of some pot smoking folks or the 20 black hooded anarchist on the evening news over and over again. (I was watching the news carefully) I did not see or hear one Vet or soccer mom interviewed for the evening news. Anyone sitting at home with questions about the invasion only saw the most radical fringe shown on the National news. While hundreds of thousands (millions accumulatively) of middle americans marched against the invasion. Oh did the MSM fail the country.

Chris Matthews has been ripping it up for the last four years digging deep, along with Olberman, and Diane Rehm who was on it before the invasion and continues to be one of the more well balanced news programs (even though I wish she was harder on folks and would dig deeper sometimes, she is by far one of the best)

IF OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM WERE JUST KARL ROVE, ARI FLEISHER, SCOOTER LIBBY, CHENEY WOULD BE IN PRISON FOR OUTING PLAME. DOUGLAS FEITH, WOLFOWITZ, DAVID WURMSER, RHODE, BOLTON LEDEEN WOULD BE IN PRISON FOR CREATING AND DESSIMINATING FALSE WMD INTELLIGENCE.

Wonder if Senator Rockefeller will ever complete Phase II of the SSCI? Will we ever witness anyone held accountable for starting a war based on false intelligence?

 

Comment by Kathleen | 2007-11-23 16:19:02

Joe and Valerie Plame Wilson we are marching right behind you. Thank you for your patriotism your examples and please let us know what we can do besides hounding our Reps in regard to justice and accountability in your case and so many more cases of corruption and deceipt that has been oozing out of this administration since they were selected by the US Supreme Court.

Thank you Larry for all you do also.

 

Comment by Kathleen | 2007-11-23 16:43:37

Bill Mahers interview with Plame/Wilson was one of the best

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2mdo8spVr64

Along with Chris Matthews interview with Valerie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GENUilnfD0

Matthews keeps hammering on how many in the press do not seem to get that an extremely serious crime has been committed

katie Courics interview was weak at best. She tried to paint Valerie’s outing as Valeries fault. Couric obsiously does not get how serious this outing is.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/21/valerie-plame-on-60-minutes-the-president-is-not-a-man-of-his-word/

Katie was such an ass when she said to Joe Wilson “your still mad, your seething” as if Joe Wilson should be over that his wife Valerie who had put her own life on the line and had been outed by the Bush administration should just get over it. Couric was such an ass when she acted as if Joe’s “outrage” was somehow not justified

terri Gross did the same thing during her interview with Valerie trying to paint it as if Valerie’s outing was her own doing.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15553270

As larry has pointed out the majority of the MSMers do not seem to get it.

 

Comment by Sandy | 2007-11-23 17:37:57

Thank you for this eloquent piece. Where (indeed) is the outrage?

Together with the Sibel Edmonds’ evidence, the treason in outing Valerie Plame during a time of war (they created, but still…) are, surely, THE most serious collections of wrongdoing/crimes in the history of this country.

That there is collusion in covering it up — by not just Bush&Co….but also the Congress and the mainstream media…..is nothing less than shocking. That fact alone will go down in history, I believe.

Knowledgeable people….being silenced. It’s incredible, really, the number of crimes committed by this administration. Including crimes against humanity. To think W is pondering his “legacy”! His “library”! If that’s not mental illness…what is?

 

Comment by Nellie | 2007-11-23 18:54:20

Valerie and Joe,

It’s wonderful to have you both stop by. Thank you for your courage, patriotism, fortitude and above all real Leadership - a quality sadly missing in our broken government in DC.

Your comment:

Where is the outrage? Where is the “contempt and anger?”

It is there. What’s amazing to me is the depth and breadth of the anger, contempt and disgust pervasive across all class and educational lines in our country. Being a “child” of the late 60’s and early 70’s, I have NEVER seen such feelings of anger and powerlessnes in my lifetime.

I’d like to ask a couple of quick questions for both of you:

1. When will you be coming to New England for a book event? As an inducement - Northern New England has real challenging skiing - none of that sissy powdery stuff like out west!

2. Have either of you thought of running for Pete Domenici’s Senate seat? Heather Wilson has so much baggage one of you could easily knock her off and our country will be all the better for it.

Again, Thanks for everything you do. You both are stellar examples to all on how to “hang tough” and do so with grace and elan.

 

Comment by John McCarthy | 2007-11-23 19:08:53

RE: Treason

Please see:

http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id48.html

http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id258.html

Related articles are located in the left column of each page.

Bests,
John

 

Comment by Taters | 2007-11-24 08:57:31

Treason is NOT old news.
Thank you for a powerful article and Season’s Best to you both.

 

Comment by John McCarthy | 2007-11-24 10:27:27

Are the preemptive invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq war crimes? If yes, why? If no, why not?

 

Comment by mudcat | 2007-11-24 13:40:43

JMc - those acts are not specific enough to constitute prosecutable war crimes. But they WERE acts of aggression. Legally speaking, not morally speaking.

Comment by Shirin | 2007-11-24 14:30:47

How is the unprovoked invasion and subsequent occupation of a sovereign state not specific enough to constitute a war crime? Wars of aggression are, in fact, deemed under international law to be the ultimate war crime - you could say the “mother of all war crimes” - is it not?

Surely the unprovoked aggression against Iraq would qualify if it had been done by, say, Iran.

Comment by mudcat | 2007-11-25 13:48:33

Because, you can’t indict an entire nation, you can only indict on specific crimes - not general themes.

Comment by Shirin | 2007-11-25 14:35:54

You are right in that legally states do not commit war crimes, individual people do. You are also right that legally you need a specific crime, not some kind of generality.

However, I don’t think anyone here is suggesting indicting the United States of America based on some “general theme”. I believe the people here are suggesting indicting the actual individuals who committed the very specific war crimes, starting with Bush, Cheney, et al., who have without a doubt committed the big daddy of all war crimes - a war of aggression.

 
 
 
 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2007-11-24 22:59:55

I wish to thank The Wilson’s for their long and dedicated service to this nation.
How much for a congressman? Ask one thats in jail.
How much for a President? Ask Henry Kissenger or the House of Saud.
How much for any American to defend thier principles and the constitution? Priceless.

 

Comment by erodriques | 2007-11-25 22:08:16

I am outraged that the “we the people” are not out in the streets yelling and demanding the rule of law ie: this country; be defended and restored. I am no longer upset with the “criminals” “we the people” are allowing this “highjacking” to continue!

 

Comment by Michael Collins | 2007-11-26 02:31:14

You said, ” the mainstream media would have you believe that McClellan’s revelation is old news.” They’re not the only ones. I wrote this, Where are the Headlines? , and was chastised by some bloggers who said that McClellan didn’t really implicate Bush, Cheney, etc. in his release. I’d somehow misread the snip from his book. Of course, Associated press lead and still has this headline: Former Aide Blames Bush for Leak Deceit. And then there’s the English language.

We’re beyond 1984 at this point. The lack of coverage and second guessing takes the entire event off the record for a while. However, those who read sites like this and email it to their 100 friends are replacing the news. Word will get out. It would be so much better if the simple story could be told commensurate with its significance.

 

Comment by Klaus | 2007-12-05 18:05:13

Well, I cant agree more.

 

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