Comments on: Treason is Not Old News

By: Klaus

Klaus — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:05:13 +0000

Well, I cant agree more.

By: Rick Derrig

Rick Derrig — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:33:08 +0000

Is this a loose thread that should be tested? Armitage says he received the info that Valerie was CIA in a memo -who was the source of that memo? Another point of note from the Libby investigation was the notation, or comment, by Libby stating that revealing her would “cause problems at CIA” -indicating she was “knowingly” exposed, right? Maybe Fitz didn’t think that was strong enough to convict, but, to me, pretty damning…

Rick

By: Michael Collins

Michael Collins — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:31:14 +0000

You said, " the mainstream media would have you believe that McClellan’s revelation is old news." They're not the only ones. I wrote this, Where are the Headlines? , and was chastised by some bloggers who said that McClellan didn't really implicate Bush, Cheney, etc. in his release. I'd somehow misread the snip from his book. Of course, Associated press lead and still has this headline: Former Aide Blames Bush for Leak Deceit. And then there's the English language. We're beyond 1984 at this point. The lack of coverage and second guessing takes the entire event off the record for a while. However, those who read sites like this and email it to their 100 friends are replacing the news. Word will get out. It would be so much better if the simple story could be told commensurate with its significance.

By: erodriques

erodriques — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:08:16 +0000

I am outraged that the “we the people” are not out in the streets yelling and demanding the rule of law ie: this country; be defended and restored. I am no longer upset with the “criminals” “we the people” are allowing this “highjacking” to continue!

By: Shirin

Shirin — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:35:54 +0000

You are right in that legally states do not commit war crimes, individual people do. You are also right that legally you need a specific crime, not some kind of generality.

However, I don’t think anyone here is suggesting indicting the United States of America based on some “general theme”. I believe the people here are suggesting indicting the actual individuals who committed the very specific war crimes, starting with Bush, Cheney, et al., who have without a doubt committed the big daddy of all war crimes – a war of aggression.

By: mudcat

mudcat — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:48:33 +0000

Because, you can’t indict an entire nation, you can only indict on specific crimes – not general themes.

By: TeakwoodKite

TeakwoodKite — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:59:55 +0000

I wish to thank The Wilson’s for their long and dedicated service to this nation.
How much for a congressman? Ask one thats in jail.
How much for a President? Ask Henry Kissenger or the House of Saud.
How much for any American to defend thier principles and the constitution? Priceless.

By: TomDem

TomDem — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:00:38 +0000

Hey, only 50% of us are sleeping
(sigh)

By: Shirin

Shirin — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:30:47 +0000

How is the unprovoked invasion and subsequent occupation of a sovereign state not specific enough to constitute a war crime? Wars of aggression are, in fact, deemed under international law to be the ultimate war crime – you could say the “mother of all war crimes” – is it not?

Surely the unprovoked aggression against Iraq would qualify if it had been done by, say, Iran.

By: mudcat

mudcat — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:40:43 +0000

JMc – those acts are not specific enough to constitute prosecutable war crimes. But they WERE acts of aggression. Legally speaking, not morally speaking.

By: John McCarthy

John McCarthy — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:27:27 +0000

Are the preemptive invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq war crimes? If yes, why? If no, why not?

By: Taters

Taters — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:57:31 +0000

Treason is NOT old news.
Thank you for a powerful article and Season’s Best to you both.

By: Chris Vosburg

Chris Vosburg — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:06:13 +0000

Thanks for that, Shirin, and by way of reminder, folks: Tweety is from Planet Showbiz. He’s not a journalsit.

By: Chris Vosburg

Chris Vosburg — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:58:33 +0000

If you think I’m crazy based on what I’ve already written, you’re in for a treat, ’cause now I’m gonna go way, way out on a limb.

You are the recipient of Joe’s application to work at MSNBC as commentator. Read it again. There’s no other way to explain it.

By: Chris Vosburg

Chris Vosburg — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:46:23 +0000

I’m serious. It’s wildly inconsistent with who he is and what he and Val have done.