There is public testimony that “contractors” were used in the Abu Grab interegations. I would be intreseted in knowing what the CIA rank and file thinks of these “contractors”. Mr.Murder made the point that former CIA “green badgers” are being offered some big$ to “consult”, but I think there is a distinction to be made between these people and and use of private third parties by the CIA or DOD to get around certian legal requirements. Does a dog have fleas?

Posted by Damozel (photo by Martina*) | To quote The BooMan Tribune, this scandal really looks like it might become the BIG ONE for the Bush Administration. The following note discusses some of the commentary that particularly struck me as I worked my …

The recordings of the sessions could be in the possession of the CIA or a cooperating agency and yet be unrecognizable to even experts looking for them, given today’s digital tools and human creativity. It will be important for Congressional committees and other investigators (law enforcement?) to ask the right questions. There should be logs documenting what was done, whatever it was.

It should be possible to investigate the reported destruction of the recordings without endangering national security. I hope we don’t hear the State Secrets defense invoked yet again.

So how many people might have seen these tapes?
Someone at NQ made reference to Sy Hersh seeing them no? If true, there’s more where them came from…JerseyJeffersonian’s post is not to far of the track to not be at least a line of inquiry.
Open source info in the US is echoed to death. Is there any correlation to be found in the international world of Open source as it relates to the Saudi’ and Pakistan?

AIPAC judge sets April 29 date
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Published: 12/06/2007

An April 29 trial date was set in the classified information case against two former AIPAC staffers.

Judge T.S. Ellis III of the U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va., told prosecutors and defense lawyers that the date he set Thursday was final, sources said.

Ellis’ office confirmed the date, at least the fifth such date since Steve Rosen, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee’s foreign policy chief, and Keith Weissman, its Iran analyst, were indicted in August 2005. The pretrial phase has dragged on largely because of arguments over the government’s reluctance to share evidence with the defense.

Rosen and Weissman are accused under a 1917 statute that criminalizes the receipt and dissemination of classified information.

Ellis has allowed the defense to subpoena top Bush administration figures in the case, including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley.

The judge has anticipated a trial of four to six weeks, which raises the prospect that it could overlap with AIPAC’s annual policy conference scheduled for the beginning of June.

Separately, the prosecution announced three expert witnesses it would call to show that the classified information allegedly handled by Rosen and Weissman damaged the national interest: Maj. Gen. Paul Dettmer, the Pentagon’s assistant deputy chief of staff for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; William McNair, a CIA official; and Dale Watson, the FBI’s former executive assistant director for counterterrorism and counterintelligence, who headed the agency’s investigation into the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

The defense has not announced its experts.

But remember that Larry has shared that it is more likely those that tortured were “contractors”. Maybe CIA wants these contractors exposed? Just supposin

Although the evening T.V. news was filled to the brim with the Bush administrations “pack of Lies”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2224052,00.html

I seriously think that what the Republicans have done to the United States in the past seven years is tantamount to treason against the Constitution…/sigh…we have failed, and this whole torture debacle is just an outward sign of our failure to retain the Republic.
I shudder to think what else we’ll discover when this is over in a few years…G-d, truth commissions, or trials…which do we pick…makes me cry.

I know this seems like a small matter in view of the on-the-ground situation, but it is like a nail running across one’s cornea to hear it, and it is particularly painful to hear from someone who actually has something worthwhile to say. Kind of destroys the moment.

The NIE may have shut down the US directly attacking Iran, but if Israel attacks Iran, then US is automatically involved?

Bush going to Middle East in January.

AIPAC

We may be in enormous financial debt to China, but it looks as if Israel calls the shots, I think I finally see the light.

Sy Hersch - saw him speak at Rice University last November. He said that IRAN was the holy grail for the Bush Administration. IRAQ was only practice.