Comments on: Obama’s Campaign Nervous + C.S. About Iraq http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/ Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:40:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Obama and Kennedy: Gut vs. Experience : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-96973 Obama and Kennedy: Gut vs. Experience : NO QUARTER Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:39:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-96973 [...] Ted Widner provides “rich detail on key points of comparison between JFK and Barack Obama.” Widner then examines Obama’s claims, and find them wanting, as has former ambassador Joseph Wilson, Larry Johnson, and others. [...] [...] Ted Widner provides “rich detail on key points of comparison between JFK and Barack Obama.” Widner then examines Obama’s claims, and find them wanting, as has former ambassador Joseph Wilson, Larry Johnson, and others. [...]

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95431 TeakWoodKite Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:37:08 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95431 This Bhutto thing is getting stranger and stranger....I must be shuting up like a telescope...(OH I got one under the tree.) <blockquote>Their problem is that, with Benazir dead, the only other alternative for them is General Ashraf Kiyani, head of the army. Nawaz Sharif is seen as a Saudi poodle and hence unreliable, though, given the US-Saudi alliance, poor Mr Sharif is puzzled as to why this should be the case. For his part, he is ready to do Washiongton's bidding but would prefer the Saudi King rather than Mr Musharraf to be the imperial message-boy.</blockquote> http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article3295851.ece TARIQ ALI: <blockquote>"I cannot understand, for the life of me, how the President of the United States can be so isolated and remote from reality as to insist that an election goes ahead when one of the central political leaders in the country, backed by Washington, has just been assassinated"</blockquote> I was a readin' 'bout how, way back when, the OBL's and Taliban's saw 'poor Mr Sharif' as the lesser of two evils.(the word was "accomodating") Now he is a 'Saudi poodle'. Seems to me, if I were him, I would be 'puzzled' too. Plus, I never knew that the pedigree was indiginous to the Kingdom. So in feeding the dragon under the staircase, Bush calls in a play for short yardage and bam!! Zip nada nothing, but a dead player...now he thinks..."Long pass down the side line and out...?" Why is no one willing to play hot potato? Didn't they all get an OveGloove for the holidays? One thing is for sure the Pakistani ballot box got screwed just like ours did. This Bhutto thing is getting stranger and stranger….I must be shuting up like a telescope…(OH I got one under the tree.)

Their problem is that, with Benazir dead, the only other alternative for them is General Ashraf Kiyani, head of the army. Nawaz Sharif is seen as a Saudi poodle and hence unreliable, though, given the US-Saudi alliance, poor Mr Sharif is puzzled as to why this should be the case. For his part, he is ready to do Washiongton’s bidding but would prefer the Saudi King rather than Mr Musharraf to be the imperial message-boy.

http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article3295851.ece
TARIQ ALI:

“I cannot understand, for the life of me, how the President of the United States can be so isolated and remote from reality as to insist that an election goes ahead when one of the central political leaders in the country, backed by Washington, has just been assassinated”

I was a readin’ ’bout how, way back when, the OBL’s and Taliban’s saw ‘poor Mr Sharif’ as the lesser of two evils.(the word was “accomodating”) Now he is a ‘Saudi poodle’.
Seems to me, if I were him, I would be ‘puzzled’ too. Plus, I never knew that the pedigree was indiginous to the Kingdom.
So in feeding the dragon under the staircase, Bush calls in a play for short yardage and bam!!
Zip nada nothing, but a dead player…now he thinks…”Long pass down the side line and out…?” Why is no one willing to play hot potato? Didn’t they all get an OveGloove for the holidays? One thing is for sure the Pakistani ballot box got screwed just like ours did.

]]> By: shoephone http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95052 shoephone Tue, 01 Jan 2008 09:30:57 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95052 Shirin - What can I say? Hope is more fun than despair... and I'm trying to shed 15 pounds of the latter for 2008. Sanguinely, Shoephone >;) Shirin - What can I say? Hope is more fun than despair… and I’m trying to shed 15 pounds of the latter for 2008.

Sanguinely,

Shoephone

>;)

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95020 Shirin Tue, 01 Jan 2008 08:01:44 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95020 PS I am hearing the fireworks and thinking about what those kinds of sounds have meant to Iraqis for the last five years. PS I am hearing the fireworks and thinking about what those kinds of sounds have meant to Iraqis for the last five years.

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95019 Shirin Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:59:33 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95019 Live in hope, die in despair! Love, Debbie Downer :o} Live in hope, die in despair!

Love,

Debbie Downer :o}

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95017 Shirin Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:48:33 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95017 Sorry, haven't found a translation of Mr. Straggle-Beard's latest. However, since you mentioned Pakistan, here are what I think are some realistic and fair commentaries on Benazir and the Pakistan situation. And by the way, the word now is that since the Bushies have managed to get Benazir killed (yeah, I would implicate them, not Hillary or even Obama, since it was the Bushies who sent Benazir into the shooting gallery), they will now try to broker a similar deal involving Nawaz Sharif, which will be interesting given that Musharraf and Sharif have always loathed each other, and Musharraf apparently fears Nawaz Sharif a great deal or he would not have banned him from running in the election. Tariq `Ali, who can be quite scathing when the occasion merits it, is very fair and nuanced in his remarks about Benazir, praising her where she earns it and criticizing her where she deserves it. He is kinder to her than I have been, but then he knows a lot more about her, and about Pakistani political history than I ever will. I found Manan Ahmad's remarks in the Democracy Now internview very worthwhile too. http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/28/pakistan_in_turmoil_after_benazir_bhuttos http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article3295851.ece And this Tariq `Ali wrote before the assassination: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n24/print/ali_01_.html Sorry, haven’t found a translation of Mr. Straggle-Beard’s latest. However, since you mentioned Pakistan, here are what I think are some realistic and fair commentaries on Benazir and the Pakistan situation.

And by the way, the word now is that since the Bushies have managed to get Benazir killed (yeah, I would implicate them, not Hillary or even Obama, since it was the Bushies who sent Benazir into the shooting gallery), they will now try to broker a similar deal involving Nawaz Sharif, which will be interesting given that Musharraf and Sharif have always loathed each other, and Musharraf apparently fears Nawaz Sharif a great deal or he would not have banned him from running in the election.

Tariq `Ali, who can be quite scathing when the occasion merits it, is very fair and nuanced in his remarks about Benazir, praising her where she earns it and criticizing her where she deserves it. He is kinder to her than I have been, but then he knows a lot more about her, and about Pakistani political history than I ever will. I found Manan Ahmad’s remarks in the Democracy Now internview very worthwhile too.

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/28/pakistan_in_turmoil_after_benazir_bhuttos

http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article3295851.ece

And this Tariq `Ali wrote before the assassination:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n24/print/ali_01_.html

]]> By: shoephone http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95010 shoephone Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:35:23 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95010 And on a lighter note... *HAPPY NEW YEAR* EVERYONE! And on a lighter note…

*HAPPY NEW YEAR* EVERYONE!

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95008 TeakWoodKite Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:24:26 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-95008 The truth ain't pretty....that's how you tell it is. The truth ain’t pretty….that’s how you tell it is.

]]> By: hendricks http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94962 hendricks Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:18:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94962 good bye, larry. i truly respected and liked you before you started whoring for the clintons. pathetic. i'm erasing your bookmarks and will no longer believe a word you say. go fuck yourself. good bye, larry. i truly respected and liked you before you started whoring for the clintons. pathetic. i’m erasing your bookmarks and will no longer believe a word you say. go fuck yourself.

]]> By: Fred C. Dobbs http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94939 Fred C. Dobbs Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:15:21 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94939 >>> John Edwards is hitting Obama hard on his Kumbayah jibberish. Well said! >>> John Edwards is hitting Obama hard on his Kumbayah jibberish.

Well said!

]]> By: One More Round « The Krile Files http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94937 One More Round « The Krile Files Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:12:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94937 [...] Obama’s Campaign Nervous + C.S. About Iraq [...] [...] Obama’s Campaign Nervous + C.S. About Iraq [...]

]]> By: Leslie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94877 Leslie Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:56:44 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94877 The <a href="http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071231/NEWS09/71231044/-1/iowapoll07" rel="nofollow">Des Moines Register poll</a>, which is considered the gold standard of Iowa polls, shows Obama has widened his lead over Hillary, 32-25. Obama's lead increased from 28%, while Hillary has held steady, and Edwards is at 24%. This means Obama's lead is above the margin of error, with Hillary and Edwards tied. It's going to be a nail-biter Thursday night. Eeeeek! The Des Moines Register poll, which is considered the gold standard of Iowa polls, shows Obama has widened his lead over Hillary, 32-25. Obama’s lead increased from 28%, while Hillary has held steady, and Edwards is at 24%.

This means Obama’s lead is above the margin of error, with Hillary and Edwards tied.

It’s going to be a nail-biter Thursday night. Eeeeek!

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94846 TeakWoodKite Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:25:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94846 MSM Ratings? Can't wait until the exit polls call it one way and MSM calls another.... Glued to my Latop well. MSM Ratings?
Can’t wait until the exit polls call it one way and MSM calls another….

Glued to my Latop well.

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94843 TeakWoodKite Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:19:21 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94843 <em>I have more or less the same interest in what OBL has to say as I do in what Bush does. :o} </em> The left and right hand of Chaos. Thanks for looking. I have more or less the same interest in what OBL has to say as I do in what Bush does. :o}
The left and right hand of Chaos.

Thanks for looking.

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94838 TeakWoodKite Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:15:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94838 Just a summary Cee: Thanks though and Happy New year. :) Just a summary Cee: Thanks though and Happy New year. :)

]]> By: Andrew Davey http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94761 Andrew Davey Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:01:01 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94761 Cheese louise, Obama's looking more and more like a HUGE disappointment! And btw, have you all seen this? http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26750 Obama attacked Kerry & Gore: <blockquote>"I don't want to go into the next election starting off with half the country already not wanting to vote for Democrats, we've done that in 2004, 2000."</blockquote> Well, I don't want to go into the next election with a Democratic nominee who won't stand up for our party! Criminy, this guys frustrates the hell out of me! Cheese louise, Obama’s looking more and more like a HUGE disappointment! And btw, have you all seen this?

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26750

Obama attacked Kerry & Gore:

“I don’t want to go into the next election starting off with half the country already not wanting to vote for Democrats, we’ve done that in 2004, 2000.”

Well, I don’t want to go into the next election with a Democratic nominee who won’t stand up for our party! Criminy, this guys frustrates the hell out of me!

]]> By: Cee http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94746 Cee Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:50:57 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94746 Since he's dead I didn't pay much attention but Juan Cole has the entire thing http://www.juancole.com/ Since he’s dead I didn’t pay much attention but Juan Cole has the entire thing

http://www.juancole.com/

]]> By: Leslie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94708 Leslie Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:19:40 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94708 What I find most interesting is that Hillary has been the de facto nominee for months. On the eve of the Iowa caucus, Edwards is suddenly tied with her! And Obama also sees Edwards as a threat and has shifted attacks from Clinton to Edwards. See article <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/31/obama-slugs-back-at-tria_n_78921.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I'm going to be glued to the TV Thursday night! What I find most interesting is that Hillary has been the de facto nominee for months. On the eve of the Iowa caucus, Edwards is suddenly tied with her! And Obama also sees Edwards as a threat and has shifted attacks from Clinton to Edwards.

See article here.

I’m going to be glued to the TV Thursday night!

]]> By: MarkL http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94678 MarkL Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:52:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94678 I was just thinking today what a terrible influence Obama has been on the race. He has had a couple of good policy proposals, but those are vastly outweighed by the damage he has done to the Democratic discussion. Instead of debating how best to fight Republicans, Obama has forced a useless discussion on whether we should fight Republicans at all! I was just thinking today what a terrible influence Obama has been on the race. He has had a couple of good policy proposals, but those are vastly outweighed by the damage he has done to the Democratic discussion.
Instead of debating how best to fight Republicans, Obama has forced a useless discussion on whether we should fight Republicans at all!

]]> By: Centrocitta http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94670 Centrocitta Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:39:36 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#comment-94670 Ciao Americani. Bon Anno 2008. The nightmare is almost over! Ciao Americani. Bon Anno 2008. The nightmare is almost over!

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