Comments on: Obama vs. The Democratic Party

By: From FactCheck.org: Obama’s “creative” clippings : NO QUARTER

From FactCheck.org: Obama’s “creative” clippings : NO QUARTER — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:40:05 +0000

[...] been increasingly concerned about the embellishments, the falsely slanted re-writings of newspaper accounts, and the smears [...]

By: shoephone

shoephone — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:46:19 +0000

He hasn’t voted to cut funding for the war and frankly, he could have done himself a world of good if he had bothered to show up and support Dodd on the FISA votes. But he was waiting to see if Hillary would, and she didn’t, so he just played tag. As always.

By: shoephone

shoephone — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:42:58 +0000

I’m most afraid we will end up with that other religious fanatic — Mitt.

Let’s face it. Every one of the Republicans is a nightmare-in-waiting.

By: whoframedrudy

whoframedrudy — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:19:57 +0000

The bottom line on Obama is he is full of ____. He tells Kennedy, a fire-breathing liberal, ‘you’re too old, you used to be a fighter.’ Then he tells Paul Krugman, ‘you’re a 60’s relic, we don’t have to fight anymore.’

Ironically, he’s talking about Medipork Part D in the video. Medipork was defeated in the House, but Speaker Hastert kept the vote open all night while Bush strong-armed the votes to pass — exactly the kind of thing Krugman warns about.

Will Obama strong-arm to get universal healthcare? No, he conceded on universal before the fight even started.

By: shoephone

shoephone — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:57:23 +0000

Susan @15:32: “(I tell everyone what an issues wonk you are.)”

Shhhhh….

…no one’s supposed to know I’m really just a nerd…

I know I shouldn’t tell you this but…I just bought some really nice aromatherapy air freshener
and it is so nice! You’d like it. Maybe I should start shilling for some of these companies for real cash money.

By: Democrats Against Hillary

Democrats Against Hillary — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:53:33 +0000

“The DLC is to the left of Obama - at least they still -have- a party line”

And yet, his voting record is like wayyyyyyyyyy to the left. He makes a few non-partisan statements and you folks certify him as an official Tom Delay clone.

By: Democrats Against Hillary

Democrats Against Hillary — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:52:32 +0000

Oddly enough, Obama was attacking Kennedy FROM THE LEFT and telling him to stand up to Bush. This was at a time (2003), when certain other people were going along with whatever Bush wanted (from Iraq to NCLB).

By: Stoic

Stoic — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:40:58 +0000

“Here we go with the Idealization of Al Gore As Saviour of the World again!”

Most people “idealize” their candidates to an extent. I know Gore isn’t perfect, but he’s less imperfect that most everyone currently running. I prefer to idealize over cynical maneuvering any day.

By: Chris Corbell

Chris Corbell — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:12:33 +0000

If Obama does -not- get the nominiation, expect him to be Bloomberg’s running mate.

No loyalty. The DLC is to the left of Obama - at least they still -have- a party line.

By: Shirin

Shirin — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:11:25 +0000

Oddly enough, it appears that the more he comes across like a silly child the higher he goes in the polls.

Go figure!

By: s. hall

s. hall — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:09:26 +0000

Where is the new kind of politics that Obama preached in the first few months? He is coming across more as a silly child then a serious candidate for the highest office in the country. Even Bush didn’t tick us off until he got into office. I have only 3 words to say to Barry GO AWAY KID.

By: Shirin

Shirin — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:09:10 +0000

Here we go with the Idealization of Al Gore As Saviour of the World again!

By: Stoic

Stoic — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:54:33 +0000

If Obama starts winning the early primaries, will it be enough for Gore to jump in and save the day? Can Gore still make any of the larger states primaries?

By: SusanUnPC

SusanUnPC — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:32:44 +0000

I think I fixed that, Shoephone. Thank you! (OT: Still using that absolutely lovely lotion. Keep it by my bed. Besides it working, the scent is just wonderful. I tell everyone what an issues wonk you are.)

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Re post: And now I hear that Obama is advertising on Drudge Report. Giving money to that rightwinger?

By: Shirin

Shirin — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:28:09 +0000

I also am glad that Giuliani is tanking, but having a religious fanatic - i.e. Huckabee - as the Republican nominee is not very heartening.

By: shoephone

shoephone — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:16:52 +0000

If Edwards wins the Iowa caucus, I wonder how quickly the Bloombergians will start polling on that scenario?

Anyway, this whole independent-middle way-bi-partisan talk is garbage. What’s the point of having parties if you’re not allowed to express partisan feelings?

By: shoephone

shoephone — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:08:34 +0000

My sister still chides me for not supporting Kennedy in the 1980 primary, but as it was my first vote for president I figured supporting the incumbant was smarter than splitting the party. (We all know how that turned out. By August, when I was working in D.C. on Carter’s program to de-regulate natural gas, I saw first-hand the menace of Reagan growing and taking over.)

But especially during the last seven years, I have renewed respect for Kennedy, the way he has fought for the constitution and against unbridled unitary executive power. There are few Democrats who would dare criticize him and yet… here comes Obama, not only criticizing him but calling him an OLD MAN. This speech by Obama realy made me sick. The disrespect, the dismissiveness, the sarcasm, the precociousness — excuse me for pointing out that those are all the personality traits we’ve had to suffer from the current president! We don’t need any more of that.

I’m glad Guiliani is tanking, for a few reasons, but today I’m glad because the prospect of Americans having to endure a NYC freeway series, with Clinton, Guiliani and Bloomberg as the opposing teams would be far too much for most of us!

Excellent post, Susan. (Is this where I mention that some of the text got repeated..?)

>; )

By: Cujo359

Cujo359 — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:04:03 +0000

Ted Kennedy should “get some spine” on health care? The guy who, almost single-handedly, has been trying to make the system more responsive to patients?

So where has Obama been on health care since then? Absent, I’ll bet, or “not voting”.