Check Out Sibel Edmonds
By Larry JohnsoncloseAuthor: Larry Johnson
Name: Larry Johnson
Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.[1] He has worked as a private consultant on issues of international terrorism and security for the U.S. Government and private companies. Johnson has appeared as a consultant and commentator in many major newspapers and news programs.[2]
Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Views
2.1 1996
2.2 1998
2.3 1999
2.4 2000
2.5 2001
2.6 2003
2.6.1 Plame affair
2.7 2008
3 Notes
4 References
5 External links
[edit]Background
Larry Johnson moved to Washington, D.C. in 1979 to begin work on a Ph.D. at the American University. Although he completed successfully all coursework and comprehensive exams, he did not write a dissertation. In 1978 and in 1983-85 he worked in Latin America on community development projects as a community organizer. Returning to the United States in 1985 he joined the Central Intelligence Agency, thanks in part to a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) that helped to "open doors" for him at the Agency.[3] Johnson entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985 and was a classmate of Valerie Plame. Every member of that class was undercover. After a year in the Career Trainee program, which included a stint with the Afghan Task Force, Johnson was assigned as an analyst in the Middle America Caribbean Division in the Latin American Affairs Office of the Directorate of Intelligence. He received two Exceptional Performance awards and was promoted ultimately to Senior Regional Analyst for Central America.
Johnson remained undercover in the CIA until October 1989, when he resigned from the CIA and started a new job in the Office of Counter Terrorism at the Department of State. Johnson played an instrumental role in launching the Terrorism Rewards program international advertising campaign (working with Diplomatic Security officers Brad Smith and Michael Parks). [4] Johnson also was involved in a variety of crisis management response operations, including the release of hostages from Lebanon and liaison with the Pan Am 103 families. He left government service in October 1993 and started his own business as a consultant.
After leaving government service, Johnson became a frequent guest on many major television news shows when a question of terrorism came up. He was first interviewed by CNN following the capture of Carlos the Jackal. Johnson subsequently appeared on CNN, ABC's Nightline, CBS, the BBC, MSNBC, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, NBC, and NPR. In December of 1999, for example, Johnson was hired by NBC to serve as its terrorist expert for the Y2000 and was in Time Square with Tom Brokaw and Katie Couric ("a lot of fun and the best way to see in the New Year"). Johnson also was hired in January 2002 as a Fox News Analyst and remained under contract until February 2003.
Since 1994 a significant focus of Johnson's consulting work has been with the U.S. military special operations forces in scripting and conducting military counter terrorism exercises. He traveled under orders from the U.S. military to Iraq in May 2006 to work on a short term project.
A registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson became a strong critic of the Bush administration in May 2003 for its conduct of the war in Iraq and, a few months later, for its role in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.[5] He was also featured in the 2004 political documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. Since Robert Novak's controversial disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in July 2003, Johnson has contributed to public discourse on intelligence matters, often sparking further controversy. He has been interviewed by both the mass media and the alternative media and published commentaries on a variety of issues, including the Plame affair, the controversy concerning Mary McCarthy, and the resignation of Porter Goss as Director of Central Intelligence.
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[edit]1996
In 1996, Johnson noted that terrorism worldwide was on the decline. "Terrorist incidents [both internationally and in the US] have fallen to levels not seen since the 1970s. Whether measured by the number of incidents, the number of fatalities, or the number of groups, raw statistics demonstrate that the level of terrorist violence has declined since the mid-1980s. In fact, the evidence suggests terrorism was more widespread and deadly 10 years ago."[6]
He also wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times suggesting that the newer and more deadly terrorist threat to the U.S. was embodied by "networks of terrorists, mostly foreign, working within its borders." Exemplifying this threat was Ramzi Yousef, one of the masterminds behind the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. In the article, Johnson suggests that enhanced cooperation between intelligence agencies, particularly the FBI and CIA, is mandatory to meet the growing threat of terror networks.[7]
[edit]1998
In 1998, Johnson argued that while overall terrorism was declining, the threat from bin Laden and al-Qaeda should be the focus of American counterterrorism policy:
The nature of the threat posed by Bin Ladin is highlighted by my final chart, number 7. Osama Bin Ladin and individuals associated with him have killed and wounded more Americans than any other group. This chart also illustrates that groups such as Hamas and the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) prior to 1998 have killed more foreigners in the anti-US terrorist attacks. If we take into account the bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama's status as the most lethal terrorist is certain.[8]
In addition, he told USA Today that bin Laden had participated in "virtually every major attack of terrorism against the United States" in the 1990s. Johnson underlined the threat posed by bin Laden, saying that he was possessed by "hatred and craziness." If left unanswered, "he would continue to terrorize Americans around the world. He has no compunction about killing women and children. He's a complete egalitarian in his murderous attitude."[9]
[edit]1999
In an interview with PBS's Frontline for its 1999 program, Hunting bin Laden, Johnson discussed Osama bin Laden.[10] According to Johnson, Americans had "tended to make Osama bin Laden sort of a superman in Muslim garb." "Actually," he continues, "Osama bin Laden, in my view, represents more of a symptom of a problem, and the problem is this: the Saudi Arabian government, not just Osama bin Laden but many people in Saudi Arabia, have been sending money to radical Islamic groups for years." Johnson continued:
When you look at who's killed Americans in the last 10 years, the individuals he's supported and backed--I'm basing that upon the initial information that's been released in the indictments and conversations with others in the intelligence communities--Osama bin Laden has been the one killing Americans. No other terrorist group in the world has been out killing Americans except for Osama bin Laden.... Osama bin Laden remains out there as the one really targeting us. So, we recognize that he's the threat. He's serious about wanting to kill Americans, but as long as he's in Afghanistan, as long as he doesn't have access to a cell phone, as long as he can't just hop on a plane and travel wherever he wants without fear of being arrested, his ability to plan and conduct terrorist operations is extremely limited. We have to recognize [that] he would like to do a lot of damage. He would like to kill Americans, but wanting to is different from being able to, having the full capabilities in place.[11]
In the interview, Johnson doubted the ability of members of bin Laden's organization to plan and put their lives on the line:
There's not another Ali or Mustafa out there at this point and Osama bin Laden in my view has not been a very effective organizer or leader. He talks a great game and puts out terrific threats as far as stirring the passions in the United States and maybe firing up the imaginations of some young Muslims throughout the world. But when push comes to shove, can he get a group of people who are together who will say: we are going to plan an operation, we're going to put our lives on the line, we're going to go out and try and kill people and we don't care what the consequence is? It hasn't happened.[12]
Frontline asked:
[Is it] ... fair to say what you're saying is that the president of the United States, his national security advisor, his deputy national security advisor for counter-terrorism, are basically blowing smoke [about the danger posed by bin Laden] and his followers]?
Johnson responded:
They're grossly exaggerating the problem. They are hyping it. They shouldn't be talking about rising terrorism. Instead of saying "terrorism's rising," it's not. "Terrorism is spreading," it's not. "More people are dying from terrorism," not the case. But what they should be saying is, "There's one individual out there that really doesn't like us, and he's made it his mission in life to kill Americans, and we've gotta deal with him." But we need to have a voice of reason in that process instead of putting ourselves out crying wolf, because this is essentially what's taking place right now. They call it the administration that cries wolf.[12]
[edit]2000
Johnson co-authored an article in 2000 with Milt Bearden which focused on the threat posed by al-Qaeda specifically, rather than terrorism trends in general. Beardon and Johnson note that new information emerging about the bombings at Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 points to the threat posed by Imad Mugniyah and Osama Bin Laden will require "a coordinated policy that will employ a full range of covert, clandestine, diplomatic, and military operations," concluding:
The Clinton Administration has shot its bolt on the terrorist problem with small effect, and no last minute show of force will change the record. A new administration can start afresh with a more sharply defined set of terrorism goals – Mughniyeh and bin Laden and their protectors for starters – and bring the full, coordinated force of American diplomatic, military, and intelligence capabilities to bear on the problem.[13]
[edit]2001
After Johnson's testimony to the special forum at the U.S. Senate, Gary J. Schmitt, executive director and CEO of the Project for the New American Century, refers in the Daily Standard (blog) to an op-ed piece Johnson wrote two months prior to the 9/11 attacks, claiming that Johnson argued that the US had little to fear from terrorism.[14]
In an editorial entitled "The Declining Terrorist Threat," published in the New York Times on 10 July 2001, Johnson says:
Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment, Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.... None of these beliefs are based in fact.... While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way.[15]
Ten days after the 9/11 attacks, after quoting the above passage, Timothy Noah concludes a post in his "Chatterbox" feature at Slate: "Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong."[16] Johnson defended himself against such attacks:
The rightwing is resurrecting an op-ed I wrote in July 2001. I stand by the full article. It is still relevant today. I am accused, incorrectly, of ignoring the threat of terrorism. In fact, I correctly noted that the real threat emanated from Bin Laden and Islamic extremism. President Bush, for his part, ignored the CIA warning in August 2001 that Al Qaeda was posed to strike inside the United States.[17]
After September 11, Johnson appeared several times on FOX News to address the question of military action against terrorism. On 14 November, he defended the FBI's proposal to interview 5,000 students in the U.S. suspected of having information relevant to the September 11 investigations:
I think they should talk to everyone that they feel they have a need to talk to. I mean, look, this is war. This is not a legal proceeding. This isn't the O.J. Simpson trial. The folks that attacked us -- they murdered Americans. And we've got to recognize that in wartime, we should do things differently.[18]
[edit]2003
In January 2003, Johnson wrote an analysis of the relationship between the upcoming U.S. invasion of Iraq and the threat of transnational terrorism. According to Johnson, Bremer's response was to tell him that "it didn't matter what Saddam did or didn't do, we were going to war."[19] The paper warned that an invasion would "do little to destroy the infrastructure of radical Islamic terrorism responsible for the 9-11 attacks." Noting that Saddam Hussein's regime has been a longtime supporter of regional terrorist organizations such as the PLO, Johnson examines contacts between Saddam Hussein and transnational terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda:
There is no doubt that Iraq is a state sponsor of terrorism—i.e., a country that provides financial support, safe haven, training, or weapons and explosives to groups or individuals that carry out terrorist attacks. . . . According to Central Intelligence Agency data, there is no credible evidence implicating Iraq in any mass casualty terrorist attacks since 1991. . . .
Johnson notes that the period immediately leading up to 2003 saw a rise of activity surrounding terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, suggesting that "Iraq is willing to help a movement that it would otherwise oppose on ideological grounds. Nonetheless," Johnson concludes, "it is important to understand that Iraqi entreaties to Al Qaeda, are most likely intended as a tactic to bolster Iraq’s ability to fight off a U.S. invasion rather than a deep-seated theological and ideological commitment to the terrorist agenda of Bin Laden.[20]
In that analysis Johnson also warns that the U.S.-led invasion was likely to backfire:
In fact there is a serious risk that a U.S. led war against Iraq may crystallize the diffused anger in the Arab and Muslim world — a heretofore unattained goal of bin Laden and his followers — and persuade more Muslim youths to take up the terrorist banner against America and her citizens.... If we decide to invade Iraq we must be prepared for the contingency that our attack will inspire young Muslims to pursue jihad against the West in general and the United States in particular. Just as the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan rallied many Muslims, especially young adults to the cause of jihad, a U.S. attack may enable Islamic extremists to attract new followers.[20]
Johnson also gave interviews on the topic of what to do with captured al-Qaeda leaders; while he did not condone torture, he suggested that a "sleep deprivation and reward system" might be useful for getting information from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
I don't see a constitutional right to have eight hours of sleep. You shouldn't subject someone to freezing but they don't get to wear mink coats, either.[21]
In May 2003, Johnson joined members of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) in condemning the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes:
It is a misuse and abuse of intelligence. The president was being misled. He was ill served by the folks who are supposed to protect him on this. Whether this was witting or unwitting, I don't know, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.[22]
[edit]Plame affair
After Robert Novak wrote a column identifying the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson as a CIA officer, the media invited Johnson to comment on the ensuing scandal because he had been a member of the same Career Trainee class with Valerie Plame Wilson. For example, in October 2003, he appeared on Democracy Now to discuss the Plame affair. He told interviewer Amy Goodman that Valerie Wilson's cover should have been respected whether she was an "analyst" or a "cleaning lady": "if she's undercover she's undercover, period. If the media allows themselves to get distracted with those kinds of curve balls, they ignore the issue."[23]
He told a Senate Democratic Policy Committee in October 2003, "My classmates and I have been betrayed. Together, we have kept the secrets of each other's identities a secret for 18 years. Each and every one of us have kept that secret, whether we were in the CIA, in other government service or in the private sector. But this issue is not just about a blown cover. It is about the destruction of the very essence, the core of human intelligence collection activities: plausible deniability, apparently, for partisan domestic political reasons."[24]
Johnson testified at a special joint hearing of Congressional and Senate Democrats on 22 July 2005 about the consequences arising from the Plame affair.[25]
[edit]2008
In 2008, Johnson emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. Larry Johnson's blog, NoQuarterUSA, became a rally point for Clinton supporters wary of Barack Obama's qualifications to be president. Supporters of Barack Obama insist that a story that first appeared on Johnson's blog--a report that Republican operatives have a tape of Michelle Obama making racially insenstive comments about caucasians--has been "refuted" Barack Obama's Fight the Smears website.[26]. However, Johnson never claimed to have the tape and reported that the Republican operatives controlling it intended to release the tape sometime after the Democratic Convention in August 2008. On October 21, however, he asserted that the operative in possession of the tape had been instructed by the McCain campaign not to release it.[27]
[edit]Notes
^ http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-political-coverage/
^ Larry C. Johnson, "About Me," No Quarter (personal blog).
^ "Former CIA Official Larry Johnson Delivers Democratic Radio Address," transcript posted on official Democratic National Committee's website for The Democratic Party, July 23, 2005], accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Interview with Larry Johnson, confirmed by his supervisor
^ "Ex-CIA official Blasts Bush on Leak of Operative's Name: Democrats' Radio Address Focuses on White House Aides' Role," CNN July 23, 2005, accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Gail Russell Chaddock, "Why Terrorists Pick On the French," Christian Science Monitor (5 December 1996) p. 1.
^ Larry Johnson, "Terrorists Among Us," New York Times (20 August 1996) p. A19.
^ Terrorism Today
^ Lee Michael Katz, "The Hunt for Bin Laden," USA Today (21 August 1998) p. 1A.
^ See Transcript of original interview with Larry C. Johnson, as broadcast on Frontline in 1999. Cf. "Interview: Larry C. Johnson," for Hunting bin Laden, transcript of interview broadcast on Frontline subsequently on 13 April 2001. See also dedicated PBS webpages for media links: Iraq and the War on Terror, Frontline PBS, online featured programs, accessed 19 November 2006.
^ frontline: hunting bin laden: interviews: larry c. johnson | PBS
^ a b [1].
^ As posted in [2].
^ Gary Schmitt, [ 07/25/2005 "Meet Larry Johnson: The CIA official Turned Democratic Spokesman Has a Pre-9/11 Mindset," Daily Standard (blog), July 25, 2005, accessed November 20, 2006.
^ *Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining Terrorist Threat," The New York Times 10 July 2001: A19.
^ Timothy Noah, "(Not Exactly a) Whopper of the Week: Larry C. Johnson," Chatterbox: Gossip, speculation, and scuttlebutt about politics (blog), hosted by Slate September 21, 2001, accessed November 20, 2006. Note the full context of this quotation:
It is, to be sure, a little bit cheap (and slightly at odds with the usual parameters of this feature) to criticize someone for making an erroneous prediction, particularly after a tragedy. Chatterbox is especially reluctant to tag Johnson because Johnson's op-ed was argued forcefully, backed up meticulously with factual data, and bravely at odds with conventional wisdom at the time of its publication. Add in that Johnson now makes his living as a consultant to corporations about terrorism, and therefore had everything to gain by exaggerating the dangers terrorism poses, and the guy practically looks like a hero. Chatterbox, who two decades ago was an editor for the New York Times op-ed page, would have published Johnson's piece had he still been an editor there this past July. In his capacity at Slate, Chatterbox might well have written up Johnson's prediction, and perhaps even endorsed it.
But boy, is he glad he didn't! Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong. Sadly, a mistake this embarrassing cannot be ignored. As a fellow skeptic, Chatterbox in all sincerity wishes Johnson better luck next time.
^ Larry C. Johnson, "Johnson vs. President Bush," re-posted and updated by SusanHu at DailyKos (blog) July 25, 2005.
^ FOX News Interview with John Garrett (14 November 2001) Transcript #111405cb.260.
^ [3].
^ a b Larry C. Johnson, "Setting the Record Straight on Iraqi Terrorism," posted in Booman Tribune: A Progressive Community (personal blog) 27 January 2003. accessed 19 November 2006.
^ Qtd. in Toby Harnden, "CIA 'pressure' on al-Qa'eda chief," The London Telegraph 5 March 2003: 16.
^ Qtd. in Nicolas D. Kristof, "Save Our Spooks," The New York Times 30 May 2003:A6.
^ Democracy Now (3 October 2003)[4]
^ U.S. Senate, Democratic Policy Committee Meeting on the CIA Operative Leak, (24 October 2003).
^ Letter to the Senate.[Needs full source citation; see "References" section.]
^ Tumulty, Karen (2008-06-12). "Will Obama's Anti-Rumor Plan Work?", Time Magazine. Retrieved on 20 June 2008.:"a story that apparently first made a big splash on the Internet in late May in a post by pro-Hillary Clinton blogger Larry Johnson"
^ Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy MartinSee Authors Posts (1090) on January 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM in Current Affairs
Former FBI translator and muzzled whistleblower, Sibel Edmonds, is getting her story out, finally. The Times of London does a tantalizing front page piece detailing her testimony that Turkey and Israeli intelligence officers used money and politicians to get access to U.S. nuclear secrets that ultimately found their way to Pakistan. The story is more complicated, but that is the gist.
Sibel has said that several the American officials and politicians named in those recordings. Other bloggers have fingered several folks for allegedly being involved in this affair. These include former speaker of the house, Denny Hastert and former State Department official, Marc Grossman. I have heard second hand that both men strongly deny having any role in these matters. The role that foreign money and intelligence officers have played in U.S. politics is not a Sibel Edmonds fantasy. The woman is simply trying to tell folks what she heard. This matter needs to be investigated. I do not believe that Sibel is making up what she heard.


















Turkey raises it’s bewattled head again in relation to WMDs. Would love to know if there was a connection between Necons, Turkey and the Plame Affair as was once suggested by some bloggers a year or more ago. Two birds with one stone (in this case, silencing Wilson AND halting investigations into their own misdeeds with regard to giving secrets to Turkey) often seems to be what motivates political action.
there were articles in the blogosphere several years ago about Plame meeting or being aware of Perle and Feith’s activities in Turkey.
Will we ever witness Phase II of the Senate Select Committee on INtelligence Completed. Hell Feith is being employed at Georgetown. Wonder how this will reflect on that school when hs is hopefully thrown in jail for playing a huge part in lying our nation into an unnecessary war and undermining US National Security.
Ya think that Olbermann will finally report on Sibel this time??
We might be distracted from this story
American Al Qaeda leader Adam Gadahn told his followers to welcome Bush “with bombs and traps” upon his upcoming visit to the Middle East this week.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4093635&page=1
Another useful fanatic to the rescue?
A man who starred in a video released by al-Qaida’s deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri on Saturday, inviting Americans to convert to Islam, has been identified as Adam Yehiye Gadahn, an American with Jewish ancestry.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525995106&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
Adam Yehiye Gadahn, the America al-Qaida is such a plant he doesn’t even deserve to be printed in our conscience at all. A real life blow hard. Ask the question how does he even get face time on TV? here’s how….SITE Intelligence Group or MEMRI -watchdog groups that seems to get these video releases of Ossama or the American Al Qaida BEFORE all the major intelligence communities of the world. This must beg your mind to wonder how they (above all others) get these stories just in the nick of time (every time) before elections… I would contend that they are in on it ( terrorizing)from the get go.
BUT WHY??????
the answer:These groups have an agenda and that is having the USA blow every Arab country into oblivion and to perpetuate this “War on terror” myth that is constantly beaten into our minds.
I believe that the” war on terror” is the greatest hoax ever perpetuated on the American people. Now I am not saying terrorist don’t exist ( that would be foolish) but WE are making them bigger and more lethal that they are in real life.
ask yourself this….If al-Qaida’ were in fact under every rock and in every town, then why haven’t they just bought guns on the black market and on the same day, at the same time, just walked into malls and stores and churches and just mowed people down in cold blood? Or maybe rented a car and driven into a crowd ? there are thousands of other ways to kill that are easily done ( if you are willing to die doing it) yet nothing…Theses “So-called” watch dog groups would have you belive that al-Qaida is buying their time for the big boom ( NUCLEAR) but that makes no sense at all. terrorism is the act of frightening a population into a paralysis of thought and any of the above easily done methods wold do the trick.
in short…….Bullshit, all of it.
it’s 2008 now and how many people in this war on terror have been actually convicted of the crime of terrorism and how many have been falsely arrested only to be quietly released with no charges?
not a very convincing argument for this world wide conspiracy of Islamo-fascism is it?
Donovan,
You’ll enjoy this
The strange pattern keeps repeating itself: The terrorists have ties to factions within the American security apparat.
The Times has not published all of Sibel Edmonds’ story. She fingers one well-known State Department official as a recipient of Turkish bribes. The accused individual strongly denies the claim, and the Times will not publish his name. (Libel laws are more stringent in the U.K.)
However, Edmonds said: “He was aiding foreign operatives against US interests by passing them highly classified information, not only from the State Department but also from the Pentagon, in exchange for money, position and political objectives.”
She claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials – including household names – who were aiding foreign agents.
Who can the mystery man be? I’m thinking either Armitage — who is second-in-command at State — or Marc Grossman, who was United States Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs from 2001. Grossman also played a still-nebulous role in Plame-gate. Not only that: He met with General Ahmed on or around September 11, 2001!
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
Yes, thanks, Cee, I did enjoy this. You see, it seems an Albanian man (from Kosovo) showed up as a witness at my divorce hearing in Austin, Texas. He actually threatened me, a natural born American citizen, inside the Travis County Courthouse. Also making an appearance that day, as a witness for the other side, was a very unattractrive Turkish woman who even brought her equally unattractive mother along. Previously, this woman had told me, “Your husband is from MY part of the world — not yours”.
Quoting the Cannonfire article, “According to 911 whistleblower and former FBI translator, Sibil Edmonds, state-sponsored Turkish networks make up the “main players” in Afghanistan’s illicit opium trade.
Such groups, according to Edmonds, purchase the opium from Afghanistan and transport it through several Turkic speaking Central Asian states into Turkey, where all the raw opium is processed into popular by-products. Then the network transports the final product into Western European and American markets via their partner networks in Albania.
Violetta Rajkovic wouldn’t happen to be an Albanian name, would it?
…..Or maybe rented a car and driven into a crowd ? in short, Bullshit, all of it…..
Yes, indeed, is is definitely Bullshit. Why didn’t they drive that car into the more than one million people that descended upon Rome at the death of John Paul, II? Convenient location for them too — they wouldn’t even have needed to cross an ocean.
…..A man who starred in a video released by al-Qaida’s deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri on Saturday, inviting Americans to convert to Islam, has been identified as Adam Yehiye Gadahn, an American with Jewish ancestry……
With the dollar steadily declining, it makes perfect sense to use a home-grown variety of “terrorist” as the imported versions from places like Jordan and Saudi Arabia are now too expensive.
Do not know the answers to everything but I am convinced that we have some very bad actors in our government. We really do need to get smart and get them behind bars. I am inclined to believe ms. Edmond’s accusations. I do not trust our very own government to take this down and get to the bottom of it….really, do they ever do such a thing??!!
I have been reading about all of this for some time and would love to get some answers myself at to hasert’s part in all of this. He is not beyond doing such a thing. He is rotten to the core, and will always be that way and he needs to behind bars for the rest of his life, as well as others. So, the question is do the real players that do have a difference to make in our government, do they ahve the guts to do the real thing of getting rid of all this nasty crap in our government? I feel maybe, just maybe, the feces is getting ready to hit the fan…
Thank, Mr. Johnson, for getting this out in the open. I appreciate this as well as other will as soon as we all know the truth.
It’s hard to believe that this woman, who has shown remarkable courage, has had to go to another country in order to tell her story. When did our own journalists and investigative reporters stop reporting and investigating? Oh, sorry, I forgot, that would be when our government starting allowing a bunch of corporations to decide what we know and when we know it. And a good Britney story is far more important than what Sybel Edmonds has to say. Right?
Wow, I’ve been following her story for years. Thanks for the heads up on this, Larry.
[...] of NoQuarter notes this, about Edmonds claims of payoffs to Grossman, Hastert and others, in his coverage this morning: The role that foreign money and intelligence officers have played in U.S. politics is [...]
Thanks had not been to the Bradblog in a while. thanks for reminding me.
If and when Phase II of the SSCI is ever completed, if the Aipac case actually takes place..if congress follows through on numerous investigations and contempt of court charges…maybe just maybe we will taste a bit of justice.
Does not look like there will be much justice for the lives that have been destroyed by all of these fucking lies and unnecessary war.
Larry: It maybe that that the CIA tapes are not the only one have been destroyed. This is one can of worms that HAS to opened. It is apparent that immunity is only offered to criminals in this administration and else where. Where is the WhistleBlower protections for her? Just scartching the surface it mkes the MD88 to China look like chump change.
Hopefully, we will get to hear all of Sibil’s story soon.
Just got this in IM form from a firend online.
It’s the motherlode of smoking guns.
Condi can’t wait for the smoking gun to become a Hastert resignation. Who could have ever imagined?
That facility has as much trouble holding onto nuke secrets as it does air guard records, eh, George?
Also makes me wonder if this has anything do do with the former Gov. of Alabama being jailed.
Say, didn’t Bush have an Energy Dep’t goon run for elected office in Michigan?
Alabama, Marge Tutwiler(recent NYSE vice pres and former director of communications for Iraqi provisional authority), one of her kin is a staffer for Dick Cheney…
follow the money.
So were ther 5 or 6 out of Minot? (I must sound like a tin foil hat.) This has fallen of the radar and smells like the garlic in a bigger dish in Sibel Edmond heard coming from the kitchen.
What a “National Security” comic strip phrase this
“muzzled whistleblower”
From Cee:
Grossman also played a still-nebulous role in Plame-gate. Not only that: He met with General Ahmed on or around September 11, 2001!
There is the name again, Cee.
See this as well
Immediately after 911, the FBI arrested a bunch of people suspected of being involved with the attacks - including four associates of key targets of FBI’s counterintelligence operations. Sibel heard the targets tell Marc Grossman: “We need to get them out of the US because we can’t afford for them to spill the beans.” Grossman duly facilitated their release from jail and the suspects immediately left the country without further investigation or interrogation.
Let me repeat that for emphasis: The #3 guy at the State Dept facilitated the immediate release of 911 suspects at the request of targets of the FBI’s investigation.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/6/112413/4231/854/431373
Any chance that Clinton, Obama or Edwards will raise this?
Edwards is the only one who has come close and the MSM is ignoring that he has said “there will be no lobbyist in my administration, there will be no people who have lobbied for other nations in my administration”. That is the closest we are going to get and this is huge….huge. If only people would listen to what Edwards is saying.
The Office of Special Plans had many arms.
Nuclear, biological and chemical arms.
The Arms race is well and growing.
Phase Ii of the SSCI…we want it completed.
Luke Ryland provides an important update to this developing intrigue.
Lantos is retiring though, perhaps to put food on his family.
Some would say AIPAC’s influence is a cancer in and of itself…
Oh do I ever agree with Mr. Murder. Lord, how did we ever get in this bind, where Isreal dictates AMERICAN foreign policy?
Did everyone see Pat Lang’s post last month? http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2007/12/israel-plans-to.html
The last President who challenged Israel and demanded that they open Dimona and their stockpiles of nuclear biological and chemical weapons up was President Kennedy. http://www.geocities.com/alabasters_archive/nuclear_opacity.html
His photo is here on her website. Who are the others?
http://www.justacitizen.com/images/Gallery%20Draft2%20for%20Web.htm
Pictures at an Exhibition; akin to the people she could identify and not implicate in violation of a gag order. That’s what I would do.
Richard Perle
Doug Feith
Eric Edelman
Marc Grossman
Larry Franklin
Dennis Hastert
Roy Blunt
Dan Burton
Tom Lantos
Bob Livingston
Stephen Solarz
Graham Fuller
David Makovsky
Alan Markovsky
Enver Yusuf
Sabri Sayari
Most of those pics can be persons found at the State Dep’t or GOP Congressional offices.
Perle had his security clearance stricken as well.
Feith, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Perle and others have had their security clearances come under scrutiny and any charges dropped.
If you missed this article by Jason Vest some years back about
THE MEN FROM JINSA. this is a must read
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest
Lovely Larisa blogged at past times about Hastert.
http://www.atlargely.com/2007/11/corruption-roun.html
She also names the photos listed:
http://www.atlargely.com/
She also names companies associated with those persons…
You’re quick!!
The ones most wouldn’t know
Alan Makovsky - WINEP
David Makovsky - WINEP
Graham E. Fuller - RAND
Stephen Solarz (D-CA)
Roy Blount - ( R, Mo)
Eric Edelman
Yusuf Turani (President-in-exile, Turkistan)
Thanks, Cee.
Condi was once the Chair of RAND?
Has anyone ever investigated the link between Condi and the appointment of Philip Zelikow as Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission. In this position, he edited and controlled the final edition of the Commission’s report. He worked for Condi. He co-authored a book with Condi. If there were errors or crimes uncovered in the Commission’s investigation, do you honestly think Condi or her associates would be fingered. I do not wear a tinfoil hat but this appointment was too close for someone not to review it.
Only those of us on the lunatic fringe.
http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=philip_zelikow
I will never forget her press conference when she was asked about Pakistani General Mahmoud Ahmad
She claimed not to know anything about him. When I found a transcript of it, they took his name out.
More on this treason
Pakistani and/or Turkish operatives arrested or held for questioning in the wake of the 9/11 attacks? Well, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. However, the U.S. authorities did round up a large number of Israelis, including these guys, and held them for several months before extraditing them back to their home country.
Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.
Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”
Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166
Trying again
http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=philip_zelikow
Pakistani and/or Turkish operatives arrested or held for questioning in the wake of the 9/11 attacks? Well, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. However, the U.S. authorities did round up a large number of Israelis, including these guys, and held them for several months before extraditing them back to their home country.
Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.
Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”
Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166
Trying to post this again
http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=philip_zelikow
Pakistani and/or Turkish operatives arrested or held for questioning in the wake of the 9/11 attacks? Well, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. However, the U.S. authorities did round up a large number of Israelis, including these guys, and held them for several months before extraditing them back to their home country.
Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.
Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”
Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166
Cee: You gotta love this “stuff”!!!
One hell of a game of musical chairs.
The speculation was that he was appointed specifically to protect the Administration and Condi. It was written about previously, extensively. I’ll hunt down the link.
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/10/10/commission/index.html?source=search&aim=/news/feature
http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/01/10/condi_rice/index.html?source=search&aim=/opinion/blumenthal
There are many many more!
Not that I know of. I could be wrong.
She was
Condoleezza Rice — former trustee 1991–1997 and current Secretary of State for the United States (as of May 2006), former intern
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAND
It would seem that the military-industrial-AIPAC complex has truly run amuck. How in the world, when these people are so connected, do we fix this. Why the hell is Waxman not covering this?
Does Waxman accept funds from those groups?
Waxman is reliable for certain foreign interests.
Dammit. That needs to change or he needs to be voted out!! Let him know.
http://www.house.gov/waxman/contact.htm
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Larry,
That might be the most quiet post I’ve ever seen you write. Two paragraphs–on what could be the worst case of treason ever? Completed with:
“The role that foreign money and intelligence officers have played in U.S. politics is not a Sibel Edmonds fantasy. The woman is simply trying to tell folks what she heard. This matter needs to be investigated. I do not believe that Sibel is making up what she heard.”
Maybe you don’t have any information. Maybe you’ve seen this kind of thing repeatedly, which causes you to believe her. Which, I might add the FBI and Congressional committees that she already testified to, do as well. Thus the state secrets gag order.
I’ve been following her story for two years. I didn’t expect it to be this bad, but there is something about how quiet you are that scares me more.
Guess I should stop wearing my tinfoil hat.
http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=philip_zelikow
Pakistani and/or Turkish operatives arrested or held for questioning in the wake of the 9/11 attacks? Well, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. However, the U.S. authorities did round up a large number of Israelis, including these guys, and held them for several months before extraditing them back to their home country.
Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.
Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”
Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166
http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209
Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.
Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”
Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166
Yes, indeed, the picture IS starting to fall into place!
Leslie,
Thanks. Sorry for the multiples.
I spoke to someone who wants to interview Edmonds again. Her number has been changed and she isn’t giving interviews. Wazzup wit dat?
I would have a question for Sibil — or perhaps someone else here can answer. The English language has two written forms — hand writing (also called penmanship) and printing (like we see here in this forum). Does Arabic also have a printed form which resembles Cyrillic letters — or would that be another language entirely, primarily Turkish? Please advise.
To clarify. I didn’t see such a sample on-line. I saw it written with a ball point pen on a piece of paper.
according to Bradblog.com he contacted her yesterday. She’s been receiving hundreds of phone calls for interviews from foreign press. Go to his website and email him. He’ll know how to contact her.
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I have been waiting for Sibel Edmonds to resurface for a long time…it’s long been due. For her Congressional testimony to be made classified after it was reported in the press just beggars credulity.
It also means she has a real story to tell. I hope she just goes to town on the incompetent FBI under Louie Freeh.
Doesn’t Louie Freeh have ties to Rudy? Makes sense why he ditched the 911 commission.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/11/30/giuliani_qatar/
http://www.thelangreport.com/?p=254
I’m voting Democrat……BUT I’m sure all of the intellectuals here already know that the Bush Clinton Era is incestuous. Ideally, we don’t need another Clinton as much as I enjoyed telling my daughters about the first woman Speaker and crave a woman President. SCREW THAT. CLEAN HOUSE FIRST, she’s tainted goods. I love Bill, love Hillary BUT our governmental structure has termites, we need to tear down, disinfect, and rebuild. That is not something they should be involved with.
Of the thirteen persons Sibel Edmonds has whistleblown over, only one of those whose pictures she presented is still working in the Bush Administration.
He’s the same man Hillary Clinton named as the person blocking the procedural existence of any legitmate official withdrawal plans or contingencies from reaching the Armed Services Committee.
Comment by whoframedrudy | 2008-01-02 21:42:50
Is this one of the persons Edmonds has named?
Comment is from an Obama/Iraq thread:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#more-1232 Why yes, yes it is.
Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-01-06 20:09:41
She also names the photos listed:
http://www.atlargely.com/
She also names companies associated with those persons…
http://www.atlargely.com/
Hillary Clinton has publicly stated a roadblock to any withdrawal in Iraq is Edelman. He is also a person who Sibel Edmonds says has ties to those stonewalling translations after 9-11, and to people who appear to have actually trained those attackers or given them free pass to try and get closer to the resource assets those terror interests are closest identified with…
h/t whoframdedrudy
Can someone please answer this simple question for me.
“How is it possible that these well known gov. officials overheard by Edmonds did not realize that their conversations on the phones would be picked up by the NSA?”
These are individuals with long years of experience in the workings of the US government!!!
I believe they were unaware that an on-going investigation into some other unrelated matter warranted the wiretaps. I don’t believe this was an accidental intercept, someone/group was being investigated by FBI.
If Edelman is blocking the planning for the troops to come home, wouldn’t this story/investigation eliminate him from the picture? Why doesn’t someone forward Edmond’s story to HRC or Wilson to get that ball rolling.
Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-01-08 01:44:20
mr. murder. re: your post above. you’re a rock star.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html
25mill from BCCI to GWB.
http://www.chris-floyd.com/Articles/Articles/The_Bomb_in_the_Shadows:_Proliferation,_Corruption_and_the_Way_of_the_World/
From BCCI to the Sibel Edmonds expose.
There is also an Enron connection and the ubiquitous Iran Contra connection.
And the Carlyle connection.
Good thing these are only co-incidences and not in any way to be construed as a co-ordinated and long running operation i.e a conspiracy.
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