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		<title>By: Live Free or Die and Other Thoughts on The Granite State &#171; Chris Tackett&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-120916</link>
		<dc:creator>Live Free or Die and Other Thoughts on The Granite State &#171; Chris Tackett&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] History was made in New Hampshire. Clinton is the first female candidate in US history to win a presidential primary. I think that is something we should all take note of. I’m glad to see it happen, regardless of where she sits on my ranking of preferable candidates. Without considering the implications this win could have on the nomination, I view this is a good thing for women everywhere and our country, in general. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] History was made in New Hampshire. Clinton is the first female candidate in US history to win a presidential primary. I think that is something we should all take note of. I’m glad to see it happen, regardless of where she sits on my ranking of preferable candidates. Without considering the implications this win could have on the nomination, I view this is a good thing for women everywhere and our country, in general. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Vosburg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103850</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vosburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those aren&#039;t Edwards&#039; numbers, and those aren&#039;t Hillary&#039;s numbers, though, are they? They are numbers supplied by unnamed people who wish to sell you a narrative-- which you bought of course, for reasons we&#039;ve already discussed, and are dishonestly attempting to sell here.

And that&#039;s the problem: Although you&#039;re quickest to point out the willingness of folks to succumb to &quot;received wisdom&quot;, it&#039;s increasingly clear to everyone but yourself that you&#039;re no more immune to it than those you&#039;ve lectured.

In truth, any one of the democratic candidates will get us out us Iraq, and each at roughly the same rate, because it is actually circumstances that will determine that withdrawal rate-- not the lollipops being handed out on the campaign trail. Edwards can&#039;t promise specifics. Neither can Obama. Hillary, who has been pressed far harder than any other candidate on this for no other reason than the fact that she is Hillary, is well aware of this, and she is simply being honest with herself and us--

Even if you aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those aren&#8217;t Edwards&#8217; numbers, and those aren&#8217;t Hillary&#8217;s numbers, though, are they? They are numbers supplied by unnamed people who wish to sell you a narrative&#8211; which you bought of course, for reasons we&#8217;ve already discussed, and are dishonestly attempting to sell here.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the problem: Although you&#8217;re quickest to point out the willingness of folks to succumb to &#8220;received wisdom&#8221;, it&#8217;s increasingly clear to everyone but yourself that you&#8217;re no more immune to it than those you&#8217;ve lectured.</p>
<p>In truth, any one of the democratic candidates will get us out us Iraq, and each at roughly the same rate, because it is actually circumstances that will determine that withdrawal rate&#8211; not the lollipops being handed out on the campaign trail. Edwards can&#8217;t promise specifics. Neither can Obama. Hillary, who has been pressed far harder than any other candidate on this for no other reason than the fact that she is Hillary, is well aware of this, and she is simply being honest with herself and us&#8211;</p>
<p>Even if you aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: bob h</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103845</link>
		<dc:creator>bob h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I feared from NH is that Hillary, the first plausible woman candidate, would go down humiliated, gang-banged by male candidates, hectored by media jackals.  That would have sent an awful message to American women about what potential they have in our society.  Thankfully, the women of NH rescued us from what would have been a really bad situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I feared from NH is that Hillary, the first plausible woman candidate, would go down humiliated, gang-banged by male candidates, hectored by media jackals.  That would have sent an awful message to American women about what potential they have in our society.  Thankfully, the women of NH rescued us from what would have been a really bad situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103787</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let add that my ideal candidate of those running is Kucinich. 

What a pity that a man like him stands no chance of taking the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let add that my ideal candidate of those running is Kucinich. </p>
<p>What a pity that a man like him stands no chance of taking the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103777</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt much. I heard someone say that most of the male choir directors in Black churches are gay. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt much. I heard someone say that most of the male choir directors in Black churches are gay. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103773</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOLOLOL!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOLOLOL!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103769</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bama,

Those aren&#039;t MY comments. However, I do agree that Hillary is as hawkish as the rest.

The above comments are just one example of the thinking of voters that will not vote for Hillary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bama,</p>
<p>Those aren&#8217;t MY comments. However, I do agree that Hillary is as hawkish as the rest.</p>
<p>The above comments are just one example of the thinking of voters that will not vote for Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103435</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You asked me for specifics, I gave you the specifics you asked for.

You know, Chris, your rantings are oddly reminiscent of the way the Bush cheerleaders used to rave and wave their arms about whenever I pointed out the facts about Iraq. They came off terribly defensive - almost as if they knew I had reality on my side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You asked me for specifics, I gave you the specifics you asked for.</p>
<p>You know, Chris, your rantings are oddly reminiscent of the way the Bush cheerleaders used to rave and wave their arms about whenever I pointed out the facts about Iraq. They came off terribly defensive &#8211; almost as if they knew I had reality on my side.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Vosburg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103411</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vosburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ron Paul beat Fred Thompson!&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, so did all of the write-in candidates. [laughing]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ron Paul beat Fred Thompson!</i></p>
<p>Yes, so did all of the write-in candidates. [laughing]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Vosburg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103406</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vosburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shirin writes: &lt;i&gt;You can insult me all you want, and you can engage in your ludicrous armchair characterizations of my mental condition, but you will never - NEVER - shut me up.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not trying to shut you up, I&#039;m actually trying to get you to talk-- to back up your argument. Trying to characterize it as an attempt to stifle expression is simply--

And then, Shirin writes: &lt;i&gt;ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz&lt;/i&gt;

Hmm. Oh dear. Well, let me put it this way:

&lt;i&gt;Oh, somewhere in a fascist land, 
The mouths are all clamped tight;
The citizens are full of fear 
That speaking won&#039;t be right;
Each citizen denied the chance
To speak or scream or shout;
That ain&#039;t what happened here, my dear;
You talked shit and struck out.&lt;/i&gt;

With apologies to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseball-almanac.com/poetry/po_case.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ernest Thayer&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shirin writes: <i>You can insult me all you want, and you can engage in your ludicrous armchair characterizations of my mental condition, but you will never &#8211; NEVER &#8211; shut me up.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to shut you up, I&#8217;m actually trying to get you to talk&#8211; to back up your argument. Trying to characterize it as an attempt to stifle expression is simply&#8211;</p>
<p>And then, Shirin writes: <i>ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</i></p>
<p>Hmm. Oh dear. Well, let me put it this way:</p>
<p><i>Oh, somewhere in a fascist land,<br />
The mouths are all clamped tight;<br />
The citizens are full of fear<br />
That speaking won&#8217;t be right;<br />
Each citizen denied the chance<br />
To speak or scream or shout;<br />
That ain&#8217;t what happened here, my dear;<br />
You talked shit and struck out.</i></p>
<p>With apologies to <a href="http://www.baseball-almanac.com/poetry/po_case.shtml" rel="nofollow">Ernest Thayer</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103390</link>
		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul beat Fred Thompson! &amp; he almost beat Rudy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul beat Fred Thompson! &amp; he almost beat Rudy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103385</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary made h&lt;em&gt;er&lt;/em&gt;story in New Hampshire.

-fyt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary made h<em>er</em>story in New Hampshire.</p>
<p>-fyt</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103370</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, some of Obama&#039;s statements ARE more hawkish than Hillary&#039;s. 

But it&#039;s kind of funny that she has rebuked him both for saying he would talk to &quot;adversaries&quot; undconditionally, AND that he would move some troops to Pakistan and Afghanistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, some of Obama&#8217;s statements ARE more hawkish than Hillary&#8217;s. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s kind of funny that she has rebuked him both for saying he would talk to &#8220;adversaries&#8221; undconditionally, AND that he would move some troops to Pakistan and Afghanistan.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103366</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>
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		<title>By: 1950democrat</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/09/history-is-made/#comment-103341</link>
		<dc:creator>1950democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of Obama&#039;s statements are considerably more hawkish than Hillary&#039;s.  This summer she rebuked him for saying he wanted to move some US troops from Iraq to &quot;the right battlefield in Pakistan and Afganistan.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of Obama&#8217;s statements are considerably more hawkish than Hillary&#8217;s.  This summer she rebuked him for saying he wanted to move some US troops from Iraq to &#8220;the right battlefield in Pakistan and Afganistan.&#8221;</p>
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