Comments on: More on Charlie Wilson’s War

By: PlealkEnara

PlealkEnara — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:04:52 +0000

hey !!
its very unconventional point of view.
Nice post.
realy gj

thx

By: patrick

patrick — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:27:35 +0000

Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts are a classic combination… Charlie Wilson’s War made me feel a little better about U.S. foreign intervention, it seemed to work out that time

By: nunya

nunya — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:49:52 +0000

Larry, what do you mean by saying that Chalmers Johnson is grinding an axe?

Are you saying that there were no Arabs fighting with the Afghans in Afghanistan against the Soviets in the 80’s? Or that no stingers were directly handed over to Arab jhadis?

Is this grinding an axe?

http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/chalmers_video

Or is someone who spent years as an educator trying to educate?

By: lidia

lidia — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:31:38 +0000

Now I could brag that CIA-man I have a discussion with was

1)informative
2)argumentative
3)polite

But, after all, CIA modus operandi is NOT a free discussion LOL

By: Retired

Retired — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:09:59 +0000

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By: Retired

Retired — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:09:28 +0000

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By: lidia

lidia — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:02:26 +0000

“saving” Afghans from USSR, sorry for error

By: lidia

lidia — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:00:55 +0000

As a matter of fact, there was NOT “one man could manipulate our government so easily into something that could have turned into a horrible disaster”

“In its effort to lionize Charlie Wilson as the savior of the Afghan people, who are scarcely present, the film omits a few inconvenient facts. The maverick congressman came onto the scene well after the Democratic administration of Jimmy Carter had decided to give financial and military support to the Islamicists engaged in guerilla warfare against the Soviet-backed regime in Kabul, which had come to power in a military coup in 1978. This preceded the Soviet invasion of the country in 1979.

The Carter regime, which hoped a war in Afghanistan would be the USSR’s Vietnam, began funding and arming the most right-wing fundamentalists, the ideological ancestors of the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.” (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/jan2008/char-j12.shtml)

By: lidia

lidia — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:53:30 +0000

Sorry, I did NOT see Matrix, I prefer Iranian cinema, so I cannot get the hint. But, if somebody is interested, here it is about USA bomblets http://www.hrw.org/backgrounder/arms/cluster-bck1031.htm
“A key United Nations clearance expert has expressed concern about the similarity of the coloring of the yellow BLU-97/B cluster bomblets and the small yellow food aid parcels being airdropped in Afghanistan, noting that people are being encouraged to pick up the food parcels, but that picking up a bomblet would be lethal. He said, “Our experience in Kosovo showed us that children and youths were highly susceptible to the submunitions…. It is highly likely that many in Afghanistan will not know the difference between aerially delivered food aid and aerially delivered munitions.” BBC Worldwide Monitoring reported that U.S. Psychological Operations units broadcast a radio message warning Afghan civilians of the similar yellow color of the cluster bomblets and the food packages, noting that cluster bombs will not be dropped in areas where food is air-dropped but stating, “[W]e do not wish to see an innocent civilian mistake the bombs for food bags and take it away believing that it might contain food.”"

As I said, first they bombed, then they warned. How nice, very unlike those evil Russians.

By: lidia

lidia — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:47:49 +0000

Oh, sure, when I say that CIA is a dirty body which murders, tortures and topple democratic rulers, it means I hate USA LOL

And when I reminded about some not nice facts regarding CIA “saving” Afghans from USA, I got such informative answer. “You shall know the truth and truth’ll set you free”, is it not?

By: Mary

Mary — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:33:51 +0000

I read this book when it first came out. After all these years I remember few real details. However three things stand out in my mind. 1 being APPALLED at how one man could manipulate our government so easily into something that could have turned into a horrible disaster. 2 Feeling very sorry for the CIA person who was constantly over run by Charlie. And 3 how ironic that the biggest maimer and killer of our men and women in Iraq was developed by the CIA for Charlie to use against the Russians. God save us from “cowboys”.

By: Retired

Retired — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:04:01 +0000

A red pill moment from the Matrix, sponsored by???

By: Retired

Retired — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:02:39 +0000

Well, you must be very grateful that you are not an American. I can see it would be very depressing for you to be part of such a hateful, terrible nation that has absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever. One only wishes that the entire world could be like that perfect place, that perfect people, that you are part of. Cheers!

By: lidia

lidia — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:35:30 +0000

by the way, the tale about USSR-made bombs for murdering Afghan kids reminded me about VERY REAL cluster bomblets looking very much like food packages (you see, USA is such wonderfull invader, it droped food at the same time it droped bombs)

By: lidia

lidia — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:28:04 +0000

No, I am not an American, and please, could it be that kind-hearted CIA would not have to “save Afghans’ lives” from USSR if the same CIA (on behalf of USA prez and Brzezinski) were NOT founding future Al-Qaida to “trap” USSR in Afghanistan. Afghans were just used as a bait for CIA hunt – a very nice of CIA, sure, and to count how much of them were murdered, tortured or simple starved to death as a result – and STILL are- yes, I am sure Afghans are VERY greatfull.