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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-106653</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred C. Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOUR HILLARY CLINTON JOKE

Sometime in the Spring of 1996, Bill and Hillary 
&quot;slipped the chain&quot; of Secret Service watchfulness, donned big sunglasses and baseball caps, rented a Chrysler Sebring convertible and took a Road Trip from DC to her family home in Wheaton, IL.

On the outskirts of Wheaton they needed fuel and pulled into a local service station. One with a real, live Attendant. 

After putting the nozzle in the tank, the Attendant loks at them and says, &quot;Well, Hillary Rodham, long time no see! How ya been?&quot;

To Bubba&#039;s amazement, she replies, &quot;Real good Wally. And yourself?&quot;

A few desultory exchanges occur and, as Wally walks to remove the nozzle Bubba asks: &quot;Where do you know that guy from?&quot;

She says, &quot;I went to high school with Wally. In fact, he took me to my Senior Prom.&quot;

Bill considers that for a moment and replies: &quot;Well, you&#039;re doing REAL good, aren&#039;t you? He&#039;s working in a gas station and you&#039;re married to the President of the United States!&quot;

She pokes a finger into the Presidential breastbone and informs him: 

&quot;Listen, Cracker. If I&#039;d married HIM, HE&#039;D be President of the United States!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOUR HILLARY CLINTON JOKE</p>
<p>Sometime in the Spring of 1996, Bill and Hillary<br />
&#8220;slipped the chain&#8221; of Secret Service watchfulness, donned big sunglasses and baseball caps, rented a Chrysler Sebring convertible and took a Road Trip from DC to her family home in Wheaton, IL.</p>
<p>On the outskirts of Wheaton they needed fuel and pulled into a local service station. One with a real, live Attendant. </p>
<p>After putting the nozzle in the tank, the Attendant loks at them and says, &#8220;Well, Hillary Rodham, long time no see! How ya been?&#8221;</p>
<p>To Bubba&#8217;s amazement, she replies, &#8220;Real good Wally. And yourself?&#8221;</p>
<p>A few desultory exchanges occur and, as Wally walks to remove the nozzle Bubba asks: &#8220;Where do you know that guy from?&#8221;</p>
<p>She says, &#8220;I went to high school with Wally. In fact, he took me to my Senior Prom.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bill considers that for a moment and replies: &#8220;Well, you&#8217;re doing REAL good, aren&#8217;t you? He&#8217;s working in a gas station and you&#8217;re married to the President of the United States!&#8221;</p>
<p>She pokes a finger into the Presidential breastbone and informs him: </p>
<p>&#8220;Listen, Cracker. If I&#8217;d married HIM, HE&#8217;D be President of the United States!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-106360</link>
		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t larry johnson of the &quot;realist&quot; school of foreign policy&quot;?  why would he back an interventionist liberal, which would appear to be the polar opposite of his own belief system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t larry johnson of the &#8220;realist&#8221; school of foreign policy&#8221;?  why would he back an interventionist liberal, which would appear to be the polar opposite of his own belief system?</p>
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		<title>By: wethornet</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-105640</link>
		<dc:creator>wethornet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>larry reports that there are technical difficulties with nq.  this is the most current thread.

SHIRIN, I APOLOGIZE.

i would hope after all this time, with my many posts on nq, you had a better handle on me.

i&#039;m not going to go into it on the wrong thread, more when we get back on line.  and after the football games.

shirin, note my timeline.  at 0523 i posted.  at 0530 i had corrected my mistake.

(i had written &quot;here at osamasucks.com&quot; when i meant obamasucks.com.)

i&#039;m going to watch sports.  the first rule of when you&#039;re in a hole is to stop digging.  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>larry reports that there are technical difficulties with nq.  this is the most current thread.</p>
<p>SHIRIN, I APOLOGIZE.</p>
<p>i would hope after all this time, with my many posts on nq, you had a better handle on me.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not going to go into it on the wrong thread, more when we get back on line.  and after the football games.</p>
<p>shirin, note my timeline.  at 0523 i posted.  at 0530 i had corrected my mistake.</p>
<p>(i had written &#8220;here at osamasucks.com&#8221; when i meant obamasucks.com.)</p>
<p>i&#8217;m going to watch sports.  the first rule of when you&#8217;re in a hole is to stop digging.  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: This Racism Kerfuffle Is Total B.S. : NO QUARTER</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-105570</link>
		<dc:creator>This Racism Kerfuffle Is Total B.S. : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] booth. TNR buries this excuse-making in a new piece, &#8220;Poll Potheads.&#8221; As did I in pointing to stats on the number of young women and independents who voted for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] booth. TNR buries this excuse-making in a new piece, &#8220;Poll Potheads.&#8221; As did I in pointing to stats on the number of young women and independents who voted for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: S. Markom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-105375</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Markom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that the same Sidney Blumenthal that was just arrested for Driving Drunk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that the same Sidney Blumenthal that was just arrested for Driving Drunk?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-105098</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That untimely passing of the man who new to much, checked out proving you can&#039;t take it with you.

http://www.aspenpitkin.com/uploads/autopsy%20lay.pdf

I will settle for a platoon of frog marching draft dodging law breaking traitors, marching to your favorite &quot;I don&#039;t know what I been told, that PDB was mafe of gold!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That untimely passing of the man who new to much, checked out proving you can&#8217;t take it with you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aspenpitkin.com/uploads/autopsy%20lay.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aspenpitkin.com/uploads/autopsy%20lay.pdf</a></p>
<p>I will settle for a platoon of frog marching draft dodging law breaking traitors, marching to your favorite &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what I been told, that PDB was mafe of gold!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sometime-CIA-Defender</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-105066</link>
		<dc:creator>Sometime-CIA-Defender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;d want a few more floggings (Gonzalez?), but I like the way you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;d want a few more floggings (Gonzalez?), but I like the way you think.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-104933</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is really impressive is that since it was from the &quot;government&quot;, the MSM did not even question it&#039;s authenticity. The MSM doesn&#039;t care if they are lied to. It is Garbage in Garbage out. Suspension of disbelief?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is really impressive is that since it was from the &#8220;government&#8221;, the MSM did not even question it&#8217;s authenticity. The MSM doesn&#8217;t care if they are lied to. It is Garbage in Garbage out. Suspension of disbelief?</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-104918</link>
		<dc:creator>Donovan Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry about the last line. I meant to type ,technology has surpassed our ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry about the last line. I meant to type ,technology has surpassed our ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-104913</link>
		<dc:creator>Donovan Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this part of the propaganda. whoever did the threatening message didn&#039;t bother putting in the ambient noise that would be there( in REAL LIFE on a small boat on the high seas) no wind , no waves , no bumping around on a small boat sound,no seagulls, nothing. Perfectly quiet like you were inside a studio....I have a studio and i could make this shit up all day long .NO PROBLEM. digital studio&#039;s allow ANYONE with a sliver of a brain to do anything sound wise and that doesn&#039;t even take into account the newest technology of VOICE MORPHING that allows computers to hear 10 minutes of someone&#039;s speech pattern and can from then on imitate it from then on. Maybe OBL is dead and his voice is computer generated? we wouldn&#039;t be able to tell. Kinda freighting that now days you can&#039;t believe what you hear or see.  technology has passed overtaken  our ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this part of the propaganda. whoever did the threatening message didn&#8217;t bother putting in the ambient noise that would be there( in REAL LIFE on a small boat on the high seas) no wind , no waves , no bumping around on a small boat sound,no seagulls, nothing. Perfectly quiet like you were inside a studio&#8230;.I have a studio and i could make this shit up all day long .NO PROBLEM. digital studio&#8217;s allow ANYONE with a sliver of a brain to do anything sound wise and that doesn&#8217;t even take into account the newest technology of VOICE MORPHING that allows computers to hear 10 minutes of someone&#8217;s speech pattern and can from then on imitate it from then on. Maybe OBL is dead and his voice is computer generated? we wouldn&#8217;t be able to tell. Kinda freighting that now days you can&#8217;t believe what you hear or see.  technology has passed overtaken  our ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-104859</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred C. Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d settle for public flogging of Scooter Libby and the exhumation of the corpse allegedly previously-known as Ken Lay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d settle for public flogging of Scooter Libby and the exhumation of the corpse allegedly previously-known as Ken Lay.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-104800</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone from the MEK or Mossad was on the shoreline with a megaphone. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone from the MEK or Mossad was on the shoreline with a megaphone. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sometime-CIA-Defender</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-104788</link>
		<dc:creator>Sometime-CIA-Defender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Sigh.*  You&#039;ve worn me down, Susan!  If she actually holds up her end of this ten-point plan...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hillary has proposed a comprehensive, 10-point plan to restore Americans&#039; confidence in their government by increasing transparency and cutting waste and corruption. Her plan includes:

Banning Cabinet officials from lobbying a Hillary Clinton administration. 

Strengthening whistleblower protections. 

Creating a public service academy. 

Ending abuse of no-bid government contracts and posting all contracts online. 

Cutting 500,000 government contractors. 

Restoring the Office of Technology Assessment. 

Publishing budgets for every government agency. 

Implementing Results America Initiative to track government effectiveness. 

Tracking and eliminating corporate welfare. 

Expanding voting access and safeguarding voting machines.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...she&#039;d be my hero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Sigh.*  You&#8217;ve worn me down, Susan!  If she actually holds up her end of this ten-point plan&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Hillary has proposed a comprehensive, 10-point plan to restore Americans&#8217; confidence in their government by increasing transparency and cutting waste and corruption. Her plan includes:</p>
<p>Banning Cabinet officials from lobbying a Hillary Clinton administration. </p>
<p>Strengthening whistleblower protections. </p>
<p>Creating a public service academy. </p>
<p>Ending abuse of no-bid government contracts and posting all contracts online. </p>
<p>Cutting 500,000 government contractors. </p>
<p>Restoring the Office of Technology Assessment. </p>
<p>Publishing budgets for every government agency. </p>
<p>Implementing Results America Initiative to track government effectiveness. </p>
<p>Tracking and eliminating corporate welfare. </p>
<p>Expanding voting access and safeguarding voting machines.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;she&#8217;d be my hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/10/how-she-did-it-true-grit-and-intellectual-poise/#comment-104781</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred C. Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So long as they/she can muster the resources and votes required for electoral success, I have no problem with female politicians and judging their relative merits objectively. Being the father of a woman who is an engineer and a career military officer may color my thinking somewhat, but there it is.

Still, one principle must always apply:

EQUAL RIGHTS MEANS EQUAL WRONGS!

Now, personally, I am tired of carrying all the load, so I am delighted for women to pick up some of the burden while I spend more time with Bonnevilles and Cutthroats, my rocking chair and a decent cigar on Sunday afternoons.

Women are not, in my opinion, likely to screw it up any worse than men have... and some fresh thinking just might improve our governance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So long as they/she can muster the resources and votes required for electoral success, I have no problem with female politicians and judging their relative merits objectively. Being the father of a woman who is an engineer and a career military officer may color my thinking somewhat, but there it is.</p>
<p>Still, one principle must always apply:</p>
<p>EQUAL RIGHTS MEANS EQUAL WRONGS!</p>
<p>Now, personally, I am tired of carrying all the load, so I am delighted for women to pick up some of the burden while I spend more time with Bonnevilles and Cutthroats, my rocking chair and a decent cigar on Sunday afternoons.</p>
<p>Women are not, in my opinion, likely to screw it up any worse than men have&#8230; and some fresh thinking just might improve our governance.</p>
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		<title>By: hoosierHoops</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoosierHoops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Friend in the Netherlands has Universal Health care.. He pays 125 euro&#039;s a month and every person by law must have it.. If you are unemployed they deduct it from your unemployment, which is a couple thousand euro&#039;s a month, so really if you are out of work you still can survive ok..Not rich but you can get by till you find another job.
He say&#039;s the system works pretty good for them.
We just need to revamp the whole mess we call health care and start all over and get it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Friend in the Netherlands has Universal Health care.. He pays 125 euro&#8217;s a month and every person by law must have it.. If you are unemployed they deduct it from your unemployment, which is a couple thousand euro&#8217;s a month, so really if you are out of work you still can survive ok..Not rich but you can get by till you find another job.<br />
He say&#8217;s the system works pretty good for them.<br />
We just need to revamp the whole mess we call health care and start all over and get it right.</p>
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