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I am opposed to Hillary Clinton as a candidate and have made it clear that if she is the nominee I will vote for a third party candidate. Ditto when it comes to Obama.

But my reasons have nothing to do with campaign tactics, my reasons are related mainly to foreign policy.

The Clintons used the race card intentionally in NH and it worked. Rather than apologize they have apologists like this web site try and redirect their actions or come up with weak explanations.

It won’t work. Even Democrats have had enough of the Clintons.

I have heard of the growing economic pressures on the “black community” due to illegal immigration. This can be seen in the aftermath of Katrina.
In the next 5 years it won’t matter what color your skin is cause the poor are going to be a whole lot poorer and there will a great deal more people in that catagory.

(in quotes because I think it is not right to refer to someone’s color just the “content of their character”)

And it gets even weirder when you realize that the owner of this site claims he is really an Edwards supporter, and yet focuses entirely on Hillary as the next best thing to god and Obama as evil incarnate, utterly ignoring his own ostensible candidate.

I think that all you have to do is look at the difference between the expected results and the actual ones to understand that this charge doesn’t make sense. A white guy who is that much of a bigot isn’t likely to favor a white woman as a candidate, either. If anyone had benefitted from such a “Bradley effect”, it would have been Edwards. Yet he did no better than expected. Obama also did about as expected.

It’s pretty clear that what happened was that Clinton got many of the undecided and second-tier candidate votes, and perhaps some help from elsewhere. “Elsewhere” would probably mean voters the polls didn’t count, I suppose, or independents who decided to vote for candidates in a different party. Turnout appears to have been higher than normal. Not at all surprising given how many candidates there were on both sides.

Sadly, this should be a cautionary tale about freely throwing around words like “racism” and “sexism”, but I know better than to expect it will have any effect.

I’ve known racists, and I can tell you that there is absolutely no doubt when you encounter one. None of the Democratic candidates is such a thing, and none wants to be associated with them. I think the charges of sexism are equally specious. As Shirin points out, no one has offered any real proof.

All time high isn’t good enough when enough people stay home in anger. The Clinton campaign is destroying itself.

Michel Chossudovsky’s writing : You think any of the Candidates have read any of it?
If so, which one you think can “change” that procession of madness?

Kuchinich and Paul have probably read them and would make drastic changes.
I don’t hold out that hope for the rest.
They would just try to go back to the bad old days before W stole the first election.
Things are so bad I could accept this for a minute.

The Obama insiders haven’t done that.

Further, if the Obama campaign continues to cry “racism” every time a compliment (read Biden) or criticism is made of him or his record, he will lose both white and (especially!) Hispanic voters.

Especially Hispanic voters? Just the white ones or the little brown ones like the son of Jeb Bush? LOL!!
I’m sooooooo glad you went here. This is another Mark Penn tactic.

Clinton pollster: Latinos don’t like Black leaders

Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 02:37:58 PM PST
I really think that Clinton’s people need to go to a cultural competency lecture. Like a real retreat, where they sit down and talk about how not to offend voters.

Here you go. Unlike guacamole and chips, Black leaders and Latinos don’t go together.

When I asked Bendixen about the source of Clinton’s strength in the Hispanic community, he mentioned her support for health care, and Hispanic voters’ affinity for the Clinton era. “It’s one group where going back to the past really works,” he said. “All you need to say in focus groups is ‘Let’s go back to the nineties.’ ” But he was also frank about the fact that the Clintons, long beloved in the black community, are now dependent on a less edifying political dynamic: “The Hispanic voter—and I want to say this very carefully—has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates.” {emphasis mine)

Just replace the word white with hispanic:

The White voter—and I want to say this very carefully—has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates.

Does that make it more clear?

I truly believe that this is how the Clinton people view the world. Mark Penn in all his Blackwater/union busting glory says: let’s divide us all up into our specific groups and I’ll appeal to you on that basis. Latinos don’t like Black leaders, well let me talk to you. She’ll even tell you you’re not illegal, but you can’t drive. Poor white person, let me tell you how scary Al-Qaeda is, waiting for a “new guy” to come along so they can blow us all up!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/12/171256/424/480/435807

Further, if the Obama campaign continues to cry “racism” every time a compliment (read Biden) or criticism is made of him or his record, he will lose both white and (especially!) Hispanic voters.

While I don’t doubt Obama’s desire to bring people together, I question that the best way to do it is by decrying the battles of the ’90’s while simultaneously embracing the battles of the ’60’s.

I can imagine many people sitting out this election if Hillary becomes the nominee

In the coming election voter turnout will be at an all time high, which isn’t saying much, considering the last few cycles. I don’t know who it will be. I do know they will have lines around the block.

Michel Chossudovsky’s writing : You think any of the Candidates have read any of it?
If so, which one you think can “change” that procession of madness?