We are in the process of swinging back the other way now so fundamental conservatives are becoming less relevant. The GOP is clearly indicative of that, and the party is trying to come to grips with that fact. In the end it comes down to partisan votes or “who else are you going to vote for?”

And then there is Michael Bloomberg.

They’re just keepin’ low right now cuz they want him so badly in the general election because they can take him down so easily.

If as you say, race issue not an issue then why do bring it up? Are you refering to nunya’s post? Bill is not talking to Hillary or Obama. He’s talking to Mr Steele.

Bill Moyers talks with Shelby Steele:

BILL MOYERS: You say in here that his supporters want him not to do something, but to be something.

SHELBY STEELE: Yes.

BILL MOYERS: To represent something. What do you think they want him to be?

SHELBY STEELE: I think to be very blunt about it, in a lot of that support is a desire for convergence of a black skin with the United States Presidency, with power on that level — the idea is that to have a black in that office leading a largely white country would be redemptive for America.

IF as you say, ‘Jack Welsh who has far more credentials,it might be instructive to look at the effects of his economic philosophy.

A critical consequence of Welch’s barge is the creation of a “corporation versus country” divide. Previously, when corporations were nationally based, profit maximization by business contributed to national economic success by ensuring efficient resource use. Today, corporations still maximize profits, but they do so from the standpoint of their global operations. Consequently, what is good for corporations may not be good for country.

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2007/10/thomas-palley-j.html

http://www.thomaspalley.com/?page_id=11

And the Bush administration are psychopathic liars and killers

What does Bush have to do with my comment?

Rather than base reality on the feelings and mood of what average people predict, why not go by a survey of real economists:

Shoephone sited public opinion, I did not.

a survey of real economists? That is a pole.

“So far, I’m in the quite-weak camp.”

“It’s soft economic activity that feels like a recession,”

The forecast revisions are making a negative reading for fourth quarter GDP look more likely, and increasing the odds of a recession — generally defined as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2007/12/05/gdp-forecasts-continue-to-move-lower/

Supply side econ gave us the current size of our national debt…the supplyside = “debts don’t matter.” And I am not “under the impression” that Hillary will go backwards. For me, the distribution of wealth in this economy is not viewed from rose colored glasses that some may wear. Still, S. Markom only time will tell and I wish you and well.

Susan-I appreciate that the entries on Obama will appear mild by comparison if he wins the nomination, but is that the point? Are we to lower ourselves to the point at which simply being more civil than Republicans is our benchmark? Simply because we do not have to attempt to show who is more masculine or who hates Arabs more, we’re superior? And as I said, I’m not an Obama backer. I also really like Edwards. But this primary cannibalism seems a disservice to democracy. For the Repubs they’re so unhinged anyway that I really don’t care. But for the alternative party-the party which-not coincidentally, many Americans’ political views coincide with, there should be a more sober consideration of views and policy considerations. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard than the circus freak show among the Repubs.

They must love this country or they are simply insane!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEX73qWiBrb4&refer=home

The U.S. will skirt recession as consumer spending slows without collapsing, a survey of economists showed.

“The debate here is whether the economy is quite weak or whether it is falling into a recession,” said James O’Sullivan, a senior economist at UBS Securities LLC in Stamford, Connecticut. “So far, I’m in the quite-weak camp.”

Under any economic term a recession is an actual decline in the country’s GDP, unless you have a new economic model no one has yet heard of. Based on real numbers our GDP in the 2ndQ was +3.8% and in the 3rdQ was +4.9%.

Will we see a recession? If we do not then it will lend even further support to the supple side policies of this administration and the strength of our economy. There are supposed to be four cycles that occur by natural market situations (expansion, prosperity, contraction, and recession). The Clinton recession was spurred by the too over-valued market particularly in technology and dot.coms. If there is a recession, and I hope there will not be one, under Bush it will be a result of the housing market that was too over-valued along with the financing that supported it.

Keynesian economics went away with the horrific Nixon/Carter economic disaster. This country has operated very well with Supply Side economics since under Reagan, GHW Bush, Clinton, and GW Bush. It is the same economic model that was used by JFK when he implemented his tax cuts in the early ‘60s to stimulate the economy. If anyone is under the impression that Hillary will return us to Keynesian economics then you are being misled.