Obama Panders to Right, Throws Democrats Under the Bus
By SusanUnPC on January 17, 2008 at 7:24 PM in Current Affairs, Obama, Ronald Reagan
Obama said what? That the GOP has been the party of ideas for the last ten to fifteen years? Are you kidding me?
Two more videos, including the above, have emerged from Sen. Barack Obama’s interview with the rightwing editorial board of the Reno Gazette-Journal which later endorsed him (small wonder). [EDITOR'S NOTE/Correction: It is the Las Vegas Gazette-Journal that is conservative, according to MyDD. But it's a small point in that Obama's words stand, as do John Edwards' words below.]
It’s not just more evidence that Obama was willing to say whatever it took to get the conservative editorial board to endorse him. It’s worse. It’s much worse.
It is further evidence that not only does Obama have no sense of the history of the last half of the 20th century — wait until you see the video below the fold — but also that he really is as conservative as his weak health care plan and far weaker economic stimulus plan have hinted. (Then there’s his use of GOP scare-tactic talking points on Social Security, and how he has been embraced by the right — including George Will who last year compared Obama to Ronald Reagan [See "Obama Channels Reagan II."] .)
Paul Krugman is clearly dumbfounded, as am I. Here is the entirety of Krugman’s New York Times blog post today at 3:41 pm:
Reagan and Obama
Read Rick Perlstein. Rick is our premier historian of the rise of modern movement conservatism, and knows whereof he speaks.
What does Perlstein say?
One of the Democratic candidates is getting a bit of abuse for lionizing Ronald Reagan. Here’s part of the relevant quote:
Perlstein quotes Obama:
he just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing.
Perlstein adds, “Matt Stoller criticizes Obama thus“:
if you think, as Obama does, that Reagan’s rise to power was premised on a sunny optimism in contrast to an out of control government and a society rife with liberal excess, then you don’t understand the conservative movement. Reagan tapped into greed and fear and tribalism, and those are powerful forces. Ignoring that isn’t going to make them go away.
“He’s right,” Perlstein observes, then goes on:
He’s also right that accepting the right’s successful fantasy-frame about what Reagan was all about surrenders to one of their most successful strategies: affecting innocence about the terrible consequences of their own ideology in the here and now—helping conservatism, as an ideology, survive to fight another day:
“Why would the conservative movement create such idolatry around Reagan? Is is because they just want to honor a great man? Perhaps that is some of it. Or are they trying to escape the legacy of the conservative movement so that it can be rebuilt in a few years, as they did after Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I?
“Liberals always talk as if only the conservatives of our own generation were scary, and the conservatives of a previous generation kind of cuddly,” notes Perlstein. (Read all.)
Here’s the second new YouTube video from the conservative newspaper interview with Obama:
In one fell swoop, Obama disparages the success-filled, non-stop efforts of millions of people during the 1960s and 1970s, efforts that Matt Stoller lists vividly at Open Left blog:
Obama admires Reagan because he agrees with Reagan’s basic frame that the 1960s and 1970s were full of ‘excesses’ and that government had grown large and unaccountable.
[STOLLER'S KEY LIST IS HERE] Those excesses, of course, were feminism, the consumer rights movement, the civil rights movement, the environmental movement, and the antiwar movement. The libertarian anti-government ideology of an unaccountable large liberal government was designed by ideological conservatives to take advantage of the backlash against these ‘excesses’.
It is extremely disturbing to hear, not that Obama admires Reagan, but why he does so. Reagan was not a sunny optimist pushing dynamic entrepreneurship, but a savvy politician using a civil rights backlash to catapult conservatives to power.
I remember what I did in 1981 after Ronald Reagan became president. I spent every lunch hour in downtown Seattle gathering signatures on Sierra Club petitions demanding that President Ronald Reagan fire James Watt, his Secretary of the Interior who was ready to bulldoze and sell off those “excesses” that Obama disparages — our country’s national parks, national lands, the Endangered Specist Act, the Marine Mammal Protection Act, and on and on.
It was clear to me that President Reagan was trying to undo all the progressive gains that our nation had made in the last decades.
I felt like I was part of a desperate fight to stop us from sliding backwards.
John Edwards also remembers that era well. Via Dale Carrico at Amor Mundi blog:
As usual, it is John Edwards who responds as a person of democratic left actually should:
“When you think about what Ronald Reagan did to the American people, to the middle class to the working people,” said Edwards.
“He was openly -– openly -– intolerant of unions and the right to organize. He openly fought against the union and the organized labor movement in this country. He openly did extraordinary damage to the middle class and working people, created a tax structure that favored the very wealthiest Americans and caused the middle class and working people to struggle every single day. The destruction of the environment, you know, eliminating regulation of companies that were polluting and doing extraordinary damage to the environment.”
“I can promise you this: this president will never use Ronald Reagan as an example for change.”
Carrico nails it:
In my Audacity of Hype post earlier this week I castigated uncritical Obamaniacs that Hope Without Fight Is Hype and tried to illustrate this point with what I imagined at the time to be something of a stretch as analogies go: Reagan talked about hope. Reagan talked about “Morning in America” as he set out to destroy the achievements of the New Deal and the Summer of Love. That’s when our long national nightmare of corporatism and theocratic pandering began.
Well, Sen. Obama, there was the Reagan public persona, and then there was the Reagan private agenda: Ronald Reagan “borrowed Teddy Kennedy’s nationalist rhetoric … echoed Carter’s incessant talk against Washington, and festooned his speeches with quotations from FDR,” writes Sidney Blumenthal in his 2003 memoir. But, Reagan — just like George W. Bush — “was astonishingly successful in his plan to paralyze the federal government.”
After a rush in his first year to pass an enormous regressive tax cut, accompanied by a large increase in the military budget … Reagan was a president at leisure. He delegated his authority and paid little attention to detail. … His achievement of presiding over a government that permitted the federal deficit to grow to astronomical proportions made a federal social policy virtually impossible to realize. Once he learned that the supply-side economic theory his advisers had advocated was backfiring, producing deficits instead of the promised Niagara of revenues, he was pleased with the deadening effect. He revived the grandeur of the presidency for his stage set but put the executive branch to sleep.
Obama has a dreamy attitude about the presidency. He thinks he can just be the “vision” guy and get “smarter people” around himself, and that the governing will take care of itself.
Never mind that George W. Bush — taking off where Ronald Reagan began — has decimated all key federal agencies of their most experienced staffers and devastated the agencies’ budgets, so much so that some will have to be rebuilt from the ground up.
Where will that new president begin? The devastated Department of Justice? The Food and Drug Administration? The Consumer Protection Safety Commission? Every branch of the U.S. military? The Veterans Administration? The Evironmental Protection Agency? Medicare? The Department of Education?
The list of essential federal agencies near death from personnel and budgetary starvation goes on and on. Then there’s our decimated military suffering from worn-out soldiers and equipment.
The new president will have innumerable Herculian tasks to face. Only the most dedicated and hardest-working president will begin to succeed in rebuilding these vital federal institutions.
And Obama thinks that being inspirational will cut it? That being sunny like Reagan — one of our laziest presidents in history — will get the job done?
Give me the worker. Good god, give me the worker.
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P.S. Screw the Democratic party and the Democratic primary . Republicans, you can be a Democrat for a single day, and then go back to your Trent-Lott-lovin’, Tom-DeLay-lovin’, Mitch-McConnell-lovin’ ways! Come on!
P.P.S. I’m a lot more like you than I let on to the Democrats. (Wink.) Just so you know, I’m on your side! Shhhh, don’t let ‘em know. I’m not on the side of those tax-and-spend liberals! Oh yeah, baby, we can make music together! That’s why my economic stimulus plan has TAX CUTS as its feature, not that mortgage help that John and Hillary want to give people. No sirree. Just tax cuts for you people who HAVE jobs. Those without can make do. That’s right.
























Susan, did you catch the ad aimed at Republicans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAzb-l5C1Q8
Do you think he really thinks this way? Ouch…sure to lose African American votes this way
I cast Barack Obama as the new Reagan when I first heard him.
It’s all there for those to see: A Lonesome Roads spinning platitudes into power and an empty vessel awaiting a Lemuel Boulware to fill it . The lad even gives “The Speech” over and over and over and over……..
So who will be his Michael Kieth Deaver?
This road goes on forever and the party never stops.
Jim:
A reference to A Face in the Crowd and a citation of Boulware in one post? Methinks thou hast a handle on the lad from Chicago!
This site has become a really despicable, divisive, and dishonest campaign platform for Hillary Clinton. “SusanUnPc” has cheap shot after cheap shot ready. I am done with this creepy experience here.
Larry Johnson: rescue your web site, it may be already too late.
There are millions and millions of other blogs. Go find one of them, and spew there.
anon you are sooo wrong! People at this blog express their feelings passionately and both Larry and Susan allow and encourage different opinions, perspectives and info. They encourage and are not afraid of a good debate.
Go to the Huffington Post they are drinking the Obama Kool Aid. (Arianna also fell for Nader. So much for her judgement.)
Thanks for a good take on this whole Obama/Reagan thing. It’s really too pathetic for words and the only thing worse is his blind little Oborg defending his every move as brilliant and totally cool.
Thanks, Ralph.
I’ll never forget those days. Besides gathering signatures every day on my lunch hour, I went to Sierra Club meetings — they were gravely concerned that Reagan would undo all the marvelous protections that our then-great Congress had put in to save our environment.
I raised money for Greenpeace, and one day walked 13 miles in a fundraiser, with my infant on my back. I held a fundraiser for Sea Shepherd. Both of those groups had seen the Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) enacted, and were deeply concerned that Reagan would undo all of that.
I went to NARAL meetings where women were deeply concerned that Reagan would stack the Supreme Court and take away the hard-fought right to choose. (I personally don’t like abortion, but I am more concerned that the children who are born are wanted and will be given all the love and care that they need. And that women not be forced to get illegal, highly dangerous abortions.)
I saw what Washington state’s great senator Warren Magnuson had achieved — from creating NOAA to helping create the MMPA to developing stronger consumer safety laws, including protections to save children from flammable clothing — and I desperately wanted all of that preserved.
How I wonder, often, what Sen. Magnuson would be thinking these days if he saw what’s happened in the last eight years. (Btw, there was a senator who truly got along with all — and those were the days when it was possible for senators on both sides to come together. Much of that collegiality has disappeared.)
I digress …
How insightfull the anti environment campaign by
Barry Goldwate a racist and also due to his legacy we still America still hasnt signed the Climate Change agreement as in post Kyoto Protocol thanx u
How insightfull he anti environment campaign by
Barry Goldwater a racist and also due to his legacy we still America still hasnt signed the Climate Change agreement as in post Kyoto Protocol thanx u
Ron Reagan Jr said the statement is true. Reagan did change the course of America. Barak did not say it was better.
These tactics are going to continue to drive people away from Clinton.
Barak isn’t losing voters from this. The black vote has departed from Clinton and he’ll gain Reagan lovers.
I want to ask what is untrue about the ad being run in Nevada?
If Clinton didn’t support this she could have requested that this suit be dropped when it was filed a week ago.
Hillary Clinton supporters want to prevent people from voting in their workplace on Saturday. This is unforgivable. Hillary Clinton is shameless. Hillary Clinton should not allow her friends to attack our people’s right to vote this Saturday. This is unforgivable; there’s no respect
Sen. Obama is defending our right to vote. Sen. Obama wants our votes. He respects our votes, our community, and our people.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/UniteHERE_ad_Hillary_Clinton_does_not_respect_our_people.html
sorry about the long post.
“Behind those numbers are real people…”
Hillary Clinton.
SusanUnPC you raise an interesting point in that Barak is talking about the future by looking at the past.
There is a scene in “The American President” when Douglas’ character finally had enough of getting creamed by his protagonist…his line about:
and Micheal Fox’s character’s line about leadership:
Hey, Michael Douglas and Mike Fox did not say these lines. A character in a movie said these lines. Wow! Our debate about candidates for President now quotes characters in a film as if the script equals the statements of actual people running for an actual office in an actual world.
The lines quoted promote a fictional, imagined idealism. They say nothing about leadership, either in theory or in reality.
Get a grip.
>>> [EDITOR’S NOTE/Correction: It is the Las Vegas Gazette-Journal that is conservative
Sorry, but no cigar. The Las Vegas Review-Journal is the local clarion of the Nazi Right. The Las Vegas Sun is the liberal paper.
Both printed in the same plant and delivered bundled together. FYI, the Sun’s publisher, Brian Greenspun, is a buddy of Bill and Hillary.
i find it most difficult to understand how any democrat would speak with any admiration of ronnie raygun. raygun was a scab loving pile of crap who also did his very best to destroy all the progress this country made during the new deal days. raygun and his type hated and still hate perhaps the greatest democratic president of all times … FDR. if obama wanted to speak about the “vision” thing … FDR was and is the best choice.
I find it deeply disturbing as well as insulting that Obama talks so dismissively about the battles of the sixties. He would never be where he is now if people had not been willing to fight for civil rights, women’s rights and against a disastrous war. Were there excesses? Of course. That kind of change could never have come about without wrenching, divisive struggles. Apparently Mr. Obama prefers his change to come with smiles like Ronald Reagan who did what he could to undo the progress of the sixties. As for his implication that if you opposed Vietnam or are against the military, that is patently ridiculous. What Democratic leader opposes all wars? I am sure a lot of his supporters do, though.
Why is no one talking about just how divisive Mr. Obama is? He has been trashing older Democrats who fought so hard for his rights. He even called Ted Kennedy “too old”. He is trying to pit older and younger Democrats against each other, all the while playing the uniter. Since the media buys his storyline, he is getting a pass, much the way our current “Uniter not a Divider” got in 2000.
Well said.
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I agree with Bernie…It seems he is dismissing all the things that were accomplished in the 60’s and he does dismiss those of us who lived through it. I agree he is attempting to divide old and young. This has been a two party system for a long time..and there are some benefits to that. He seems to lack knowledge of what brought Ronald Reagan to office. It was politics of fear…the public was convinced that Jimmy Carter was weak…due to the hostage taking in Iran. Ronald Reagan always focused on the danger of other countries. Little did we know…he was making an arms deal behind the scene at the time. I too remember him dismantling the health and welfare departments…with talk of welfare queens…and no support to the mental institutions..that led to many homeless being unprotected and without care. Personally…I think Obama is an airhead. The message is…I will inspire you…and you will do the work. I may be an old lady…but I have never seen a law passed that way.
Good video here. “2+2=5″
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4o166Eb_puo