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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/22/freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-115099</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"20th anniversary of the Tet Offensive?" &lt;/em&gt;

Make that 40th.

Damn, has it really been that long?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;20th anniversary of the Tet Offensive?&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Make that 40th.</p>
<p>Damn, has it really been that long?</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/22/freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-115098</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush could have left office with soaring corporate profits, busted unions, a fearful workforce and having tripled the underground assets of his home state.  

Alas, interesting times have intervened and should the 10% chance of the worst case prevail, he may be hounded out of office just ahead of a Chamber of Commerce lynch mob.

&lt;em&gt;C'est la geurre&lt;/em&gt;.  Speaking of which, suppose the bearded followers of the Prophet (peace be upon him) liquidate their inventory of suicide bombers on the 20th anniversary of the Tet Offensive?  

Can you imagine the feeding frenzy of the 24/7 media?  Imagine Wolf Blitzer, stoned and hollow-eyed on NoDoze and in wrinkled Armani, orchestrating a slide show of lurid graphics and earnest experts in a firestorm of self-flagellation?   FOX would incandesce.  The blogsphere would fireball.   And just eight months before the election.

Just 11 shopping days left until Tet........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush could have left office with soaring corporate profits, busted unions, a fearful workforce and having tripled the underground assets of his home state.  </p>
<p>Alas, interesting times have intervened and should the 10% chance of the worst case prevail, he may be hounded out of office just ahead of a Chamber of Commerce lynch mob.</p>
<p><em>C&#8217;est la geurre</em>.  Speaking of which, suppose the bearded followers of the Prophet (peace be upon him) liquidate their inventory of suicide bombers on the 20th anniversary of the Tet Offensive?  </p>
<p>Can you imagine the feeding frenzy of the 24/7 media?  Imagine Wolf Blitzer, stoned and hollow-eyed on NoDoze and in wrinkled Armani, orchestrating a slide show of lurid graphics and earnest experts in a firestorm of self-flagellation?   FOX would incandesce.  The blogsphere would fireball.   And just eight months before the election.</p>
<p>Just 11 shopping days left until Tet&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/22/freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-115072</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching Pelosi and Reed leaving the WH made me wonder what horse trading went on...Sadly there is no amount of makeup that will cover up that Alcoholic Nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching Pelosi and Reed leaving the WH made me wonder what horse trading went on&#8230;Sadly there is no amount of makeup that will cover up that Alcoholic Nose.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/22/freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-115037</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Decider was really freaked, the media bite had to be short otherwise his panic sweat was going to trigger a pancake makeup mudslide.

On the other side of the Universe, Rep. Rangel was obscured by a dense cloud of smug on the Charlie Rose show Friday as he allowed that there seemed to be much better cooperation between Congress and the White House as of late.

Indeed, strange bedfellows are created at the junction of the cusp where oil, war and worldwide financial panic intersect:  The gestation of the perfect storm.

All we need is another Tet.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Decider was really freaked, the media bite had to be short otherwise his panic sweat was going to trigger a pancake makeup mudslide.</p>
<p>On the other side of the Universe, Rep. Rangel was obscured by a dense cloud of smug on the Charlie Rose show Friday as he allowed that there seemed to be much better cooperation between Congress and the White House as of late.</p>
<p>Indeed, strange bedfellows are created at the junction of the cusp where oil, war and worldwide financial panic intersect:  The gestation of the perfect storm.</p>
<p>All we need is another Tet&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonoma County 4th quarter default rates compared to same quarter last year up 199%.</description>
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		<title>By: JerseyJeffersonian</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/22/freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-115006</link>
		<dc:creator>JerseyJeffersonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CK, G Hazeltine (and all),

For some understanding of the box in which we find ourselves and the way in which we got there, see this article at TomDispatch from Chalmers Johnson:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174884/chalmers_johnson_how_to_sink_america


Eisenhower's unease at the rise of the Military-Industrial Complex was well founded.  

When the nation's economic diversity is hollowed out, when its industrial base is decimated through financial disincentives towards capital investment and the selfishness of the rich looks to outsourcing to increase their wealth and to put those unionists in their place, disaster for the majority of the citizens will inevitably follow.  Couple this with the unimaginable sums spent on the military.  And it's a totally bi-partisan endeavor.  Way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CK, G Hazeltine (and all),</p>
<p>For some understanding of the box in which we find ourselves and the way in which we got there, see this article at TomDispatch from Chalmers Johnson:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174884/chalmers_johnson_how_to_sink_america" rel="nofollow">http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174884/chalmers_johnson_how_to_sink_america</a></p>
<p>Eisenhower&#8217;s unease at the rise of the Military-Industrial Complex was well founded.  </p>
<p>When the nation&#8217;s economic diversity is hollowed out, when its industrial base is decimated through financial disincentives towards capital investment and the selfishness of the rich looks to outsourcing to increase their wealth and to put those unionists in their place, disaster for the majority of the citizens will inevitably follow.  Couple this with the unimaginable sums spent on the military.  And it&#8217;s a totally bi-partisan endeavor.  Way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if the US economy fails, the Chinese will also be affected, correct?

Much of the Chinese economy is predicated on Western, say, American companies, wont their demise affect China?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if the US economy fails, the Chinese will also be affected, correct?</p>
<p>Much of the Chinese economy is predicated on Western, say, American companies, wont their demise affect China?</p>
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		<title>By: G Hazeltine</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Hazeltine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure I understand your point. "Standard BS", "perps are from a protected class of victims", "village of deadbeats and bottom feeders that it takes to raise a sociopath", "rest of the losers to come."??

In any case, from the Financial Times article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If this had been a mere subprime crisis, it would now be over. But it is not, and nor will it be over soon. The reason is that several other pockets of the credit market are also vulnerable. Credit cards are one such segment, similar in size to the subprime market. Another is credit default swaps, relatively modern financial instruments that allow bondholders to insure against default. Those who such sell such protection receive a quarterly premium, based on a percentage of the amount insured.

The CDS market is worth about $45,000bn (€30,500bn, £23,000bn). This is not an easy figure to imagine. It is more than three times the annual gross domestic product of the US. Economically, credit default swaps are insurance. But legally, they are not, which is why this market is largely unregulated.

Technically, they are swaps: two parties swap payments streams – one pays a regular premium for protection, the other pays up in case of default. At a time of low insolvency rates, many investors used to consider the selling of protection as a fairly risk-free way of generating a steady stream of income. But as insolvency rates go up, so will be the payment obligations under the CDS contracts. If insolvencies reach a certain level, one would expect some protection sellers to default on their obligations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A 45 Trillion (trillion) dollar market. Largely unregulated. "If insolvencies reach a certain level, one would expect some protection sellers to default on their obligations." Right. 

Way, way beyond subprime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand your point. &#8220;Standard BS&#8221;, &#8220;perps are from a protected class of victims&#8221;, &#8220;village of deadbeats and bottom feeders that it takes to raise a sociopath&#8221;, &#8220;rest of the losers to come.&#8221;??</p>
<p>In any case, from the Financial Times article:</p>
<blockquote><p>If this had been a mere subprime crisis, it would now be over. But it is not, and nor will it be over soon. The reason is that several other pockets of the credit market are also vulnerable. Credit cards are one such segment, similar in size to the subprime market. Another is credit default swaps, relatively modern financial instruments that allow bondholders to insure against default. Those who such sell such protection receive a quarterly premium, based on a percentage of the amount insured.</p>
<p>The CDS market is worth about $45,000bn (€30,500bn, £23,000bn). This is not an easy figure to imagine. It is more than three times the annual gross domestic product of the US. Economically, credit default swaps are insurance. But legally, they are not, which is why this market is largely unregulated.</p>
<p>Technically, they are swaps: two parties swap payments streams – one pays a regular premium for protection, the other pays up in case of default. At a time of low insolvency rates, many investors used to consider the selling of protection as a fairly risk-free way of generating a steady stream of income. But as insolvency rates go up, so will be the payment obligations under the CDS contracts. If insolvencies reach a certain level, one would expect some protection sellers to default on their obligations.</p></blockquote>
<p>A 45 Trillion (trillion) dollar market. Largely unregulated. &#8220;If insolvencies reach a certain level, one would expect some protection sellers to default on their obligations.&#8221; Right. </p>
<p>Way, way beyond subprime.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standard BS.  The perps are from a protected class of victims so we must spread the blame and dilute the reality so much that no one is to blame, no one is guilty, certainly not the beneficent government goons.  We are not all subprime now as individuals, but those individuals who avoided the siren songs sung by the government in league with the lenders and the credit card companies will be the ones whose pockets will be picked to pay for those subprimes and cdos and derivatives.  Anyone with savings will be raped, anyone with a time preference beyond 6 months will be pillaged.  We will have the village of deadbeats and bottom feeders that it takes to raise a sociopath.
It is no longer just a subprime crisis, those losers were the coal mine canaries telling us of the rest of the losers to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standard BS.  The perps are from a protected class of victims so we must spread the blame and dilute the reality so much that no one is to blame, no one is guilty, certainly not the beneficent government goons.  We are not all subprime now as individuals, but those individuals who avoided the siren songs sung by the government in league with the lenders and the credit card companies will be the ones whose pockets will be picked to pay for those subprimes and cdos and derivatives.  Anyone with savings will be raped, anyone with a time preference beyond 6 months will be pillaged.  We will have the village of deadbeats and bottom feeders that it takes to raise a sociopath.<br />
It is no longer just a subprime crisis, those losers were the coal mine canaries telling us of the rest of the losers to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Keyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Keyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oil prices sink on fears of a recession
An economic slowdown would likely dampen demand for crude oil

Awwwww...

Those poor Saudi princes they will probably have to cut back on re-golding their bidets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oil prices sink on fears of a recession<br />
An economic slowdown would likely dampen demand for crude oil</p>
<p>Awwwww&#8230;</p>
<p>Those poor Saudi princes they will probably have to cut back on re-golding their bidets.</p>
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