Comments on: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

By: fraude Stratumseind Eindhoven

fraude Stratumseind Eindhoven — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:58:43 +0000

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By: Gloria

Gloria — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:07:17 +0000

Sorry, you are correct….Exelon….he rewrote his bill to please Exelon, his major contributors.
In doing so, he also caved to Sen. James Inhofe.

Excellent, detailed article here…

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/03/america/03exelon.php

By: Fancy Pants Elitist

Fancy Pants Elitist — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:48:02 +0000

I really wish Gore had run…

By: RealityCheck9

RealityCheck9 — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:37:54 +0000

Unless the drooling victimization projected by a very large number of Obama supporters drive voters to McCain. :-}

Yes…they are victims…”down with the old”…”baby boomers messed up the world”……….”hillary has caused every dam thing that is bad in the last 15 years”…..”Hillary is evil” ….”it is her fault”.

Jesus H Christ. Victims. victims. victims.

By: CK

CK — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:46:42 +0000

Whether the attacks to come on Obama are racist or not, they will be spun as racist by whoever the democratic rove equivalent is.
If Hillary is the nominee then the undercurrent will be that any attacks are sexist. Sexism is a less frightening poison to have to face than racism right now.
It would be sexist of me probably to point out the appearance and attire and mental power of the many female anchorettes on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, or the obligatory female co-anchors on local TV. One could google Alycia Lane as an example. The dems have in their wisdom chosen to present two candidates who expose all the slimy parts of the Television mentality and thus the slimy parts of the american entertainment necessity.
Yesterday I heard the first Mandingo reference applied to Obama by some bloviator on local radio. I expect to hear more of those references.
If the attacks come at just the right time in the program, the advert that follows will feature a black actor portraying a doctor and trying to sell white viewers ED pills.

By: Shirin (not an Obama supporter!)

Shirin (not an Obama supporter!) — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:07:11 +0000

Oh, that is SOOOOOOO relevant to his record, and his ability to do the job! Everyone who is harping away at this point should be very, very proud that they have been able to look beyond superficial and irrelevant rubbish like his record as an elected official and hammer away at what is really substantive and pertinent.

Or is it just laziness?

By: rjj

rjj — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:57:56 +0000

They will walk a bit easier about Obama for a while because having made the accusation of racism a poison they will not want to drink it if they can avoid it.

That implies an automatic assumption that ANY attacks or criticism are racist. They will object to his being green [(inexperienced) as opposed to Green (environmentalist)]. Harumph. Harumph. Harumph. These are critical times. The stakes are too high to place these weighty matters in the hands of a novice. Would you trust your mother’s emergency surgery to a medical student when there is a qualified and experienced professional to do the job? blah. blah.

By: Shirin (not an Obama supporter!)

Shirin (not an Obama supporter!) — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:32:46 +0000

How do you explain the fact that he also has won majorities among white males?

NOT an Obama supporter, but getting sicker and sicker and sicker of all this rubbish from both sides.

By: christian aaron

christian aaron — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:05:38 +0000

and Clinton vs. Renzie or whatever the heck his name was, was a contested race? hmmm.

By: Lorelynn

Lorelynn — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:39:13 +0000

Madison Guaranty – the S&L at issue in the Whitewater scandal – had already been investigated by the Resolution Trust when Clinton was running for office. We knew, officially, that there was nothing there because Republican prosecutors with subpoenas had gone in, looked around and cleared Madison.

What prosecutor with subpoena power has officially investigated Rezko’s purchase of property for Obama’s benefit?

By: Lorelynn

Lorelynn — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:35:56 +0000

Obama has never run a genuinely contested campaign for high office against the GOP. You have no idea if he can win, because you do not know what he will do when he is swiftboated, when his wife and children are called racist, misogynist names, or what he has in his past. You do not know what there is to be dug up on Rezko. You do not know what other ties Obama has that are seriously compromised. You do not know what Rezko wanted in return for spending $625k of his own money to benefit Obama personally. And until we know the answer to that question, there is no reason to believe Obama can win.

You don’t know these things because the GOP dirt machine has never had reason to let fly against him. You do not know what they have stashed away against him, and how he will respond when it is used against him.

We know what the GOP has on the Clintons. Every phone call they made and every check they ever wrote (literally) has been investigated and nothing was found. We also know how the Clintons respond to swiftboating.

To say that you know Obama can win is sheer fantasy on your part. Maybe he can. But it’s just as likely, considering who has endorsed him, that he can’t. He’s telling you that he is going to let the Republicans set the agenda and the terms of the debate – you are simply refusing hear what he has said.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:22:41 +0000

For every starstruck Obama supporter there are many others who like him b/c he 1) would be a break from the Clinton drama of the 90s 2) seems to be a stronger general election candidate 3) spoke out against the war in Iraq whereas Hillary voted for it 4) speaks convincingly of trying to create a workable coalition of Dems/Independents and even liberal Republicans 5) has an inspirational biography 6) gives great speeches, among other things. Everyone has their own reasons for supporting a candidate.

I think the media has an interest in creating this sort of Obama mythology, and it seems like Larry and some of Obama’s detractors on this site have fallen victim. All they have to do is show a couple videos of screaming women, and now every supporter is painted as some sort of cultist. You sound just as unhinged in denouncing anyone with the audacity to vote for Obama as some sort of maniacal idiot, as the people who are fainting at the rallies. It’s almost as you guys are arguing that there is no reason for anyone to actually oppose Clinton, and by extension, anyone that is opposing her is obviously deranged.

By: CK

CK — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:40:58 +0000

Depends on how the media reads the tea leaves.
A McCain brain fart or two and the gloves will come off about him. Might just have started today with his vote to OK torture.
Of course the media will go on a tear at whichever dem gets the nod. They will walk a bit easier about Obama for a while because having made the accusation of racism a poison they will not want to drink it if they can avoid it. As for Hillary, nope the media will not give the Clinton’s a pass. But the thing is that the hillary bashing is starting to have about as much effect as white noise. It is expected and being ignored.

By: CK

CK — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:36:11 +0000

Hmm let’s see could it be that a black candidate won in those lily white states, and that democratic turnout was huge for him? Will a democrat win those states? Maybe not Utah and Idaho but even those states will be shaky if by november we are as deeply into the Bush/McCain depression as I suspect the nation will be. Oh and two years ago your list would have included Colorado, Montana and Virginia that a democrat just could not win.

By: gregoryp

gregoryp — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:07:40 +0000

It isn’t called pragmatism and it isn’t called good politics and it isn’t called being smart. It is called capitulation and for a damned good reason. He basically has negotiated with himself and compromised his stance before encountering opposition see his healthcare position. When negotiating one should start at their most favorable position and work away from that to assuage and to compromise. To compromise before the negotiating process has begun is crappy, crappy politics and Obama is a crappy, crappy politician no matter how smart you guys say he is. I want someone who is going to fight for liberal ideas. Someone who is willing to go tooth and nail to get every inch and every concession from the wingnuts. That ain’t Obama.