Comments on: The Economist: “But could he deliver?” [UPDATED] http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:53:59 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Obama Launches The Worst Kinds of Lying Attacks That Undermine Americans’ Hope for Universal Health Care : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-143949 Obama Launches The Worst Kinds of Lying Attacks That Undermine Americans’ Hope for Universal Health Care : NO QUARTER Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:03:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-143949 [...] “latte elites” and the MSM drunk on his phony rhetoric. But he is a FALSE Messiah with rightwing economic plans that will harm Social Security, Medicare, and any hope for a real economic recovery that reaches [...] [...] “latte elites” and the MSM drunk on his phony rhetoric. But he is a FALSE Messiah with rightwing economic plans that will harm Social Security, Medicare, and any hope for a real economic recovery that reaches [...]

]]> By: Simon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-141407 Simon Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:16:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-141407 <blockquote>The candidates running on the democratic ticket for the various house and senate seats are Obamacrats? The governors and local legislators running as democrats are really Obamacrats? Obama is not a democrat</blockquote> They have the same financial interests, they aren't interested in governing, they want power, and money, no matter who they have to blow to get it. Just because they call themselves democratic doesn't mean they're are, Pelosi, Reid and Obama have been a disaster. Why?

The candidates running on the democratic ticket for the various house and senate seats are Obamacrats? The governors and local legislators running as democrats are really Obamacrats?
Obama is not a democrat

They have the same financial interests, they aren’t interested in governing, they want power, and money, no matter who they have to blow to get it.

Just because they call themselves democratic doesn’t mean they’re are, Pelosi, Reid and Obama have been a disaster.

Why?

]]> By: Can They List His Qualifications? (Part Deux) : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-141397 Can They List His Qualifications? (Part Deux) : NO QUARTER Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:58:54 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-141397 [...] the concerns of Der Spiegel (”Change You Can’t Believe In“) and The Economist (“But could he deliver?”): Then, I saw one of his supporters - a congressman from Virginia, Bobby Scott - being [...] [...] the concerns of Der Spiegel (”Change You Can’t Believe In“) and The Economist (“But could he deliver?”): Then, I saw one of his supporters – a congressman from Virginia, Bobby Scott – being [...]

]]> By: RalphB http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137917 RalphB Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:45:20 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137917 Do you actually have anything to say that makes even one bit of sense? If so, you might try posting it instead of this crap. Do you actually have anything to say that makes even one bit of sense? If so, you might try posting it instead of this crap.

]]> By: dragoneyes http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137842 dragoneyes Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:26:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137842 You nailed it, Anne...great archetypal analysis! I am reminded of my favorite quote from my favorite cranky libertarian science fiction writer, Robert Heinlein... from his Hugo winning book The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch Typically shortened to TANSTAAFL You nailed it, Anne…great archetypal analysis!

I am reminded of my favorite quote from my favorite cranky libertarian science fiction writer, Robert Heinlein… from his Hugo winning book The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

Typically shortened to TANSTAAFL

]]> By: CK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137797 CK Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:25:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137797 Possible explanations: 1) The perfect is the enemy of the good enough. ( each fan knows that their fave is perfect and the other guy is one rung below whale shit ) 2) If things don't go exactly the way I want I will hold my breath until I turn blue or I will go outside and eat worms. ( When I am feeling optimistic this is my preferred explanation for it ) 3) I like war. I want your kids to be involved in a war. I want america to spend the next hundred years at war. But I want an efficient war not a bollox like Bush gave us. ( This one fits a lot of dems unfortunately) 4) The boomer generation is marching off the stage, Obama's generation is marching on. The boomers do not want to go softly into that good retirement. ( this is my preferred explanation ) 5) They actually believe that Bush and McCain are getter for America than Obama would be. ( this was the big think of the turncoat dems in 1960 ... that Nixon would be better than that kennedy boy; 8 years later they voted for Nixon again and got their wishes) Possible explanations:
1) The perfect is the enemy of the good enough. ( each fan knows that their fave is perfect and the other guy is one rung below whale shit )
2) If things don’t go exactly the way I want I will hold my breath until I turn blue or I will go outside and eat worms. ( When I am feeling optimistic this is my preferred explanation for it )
3) I like war. I want your kids to be involved in a war. I want america to spend the next hundred years at war. But I want an efficient war not a bollox like Bush gave us. ( This one fits a lot of dems unfortunately)
4) The boomer generation is marching off the stage, Obama’s generation is marching on. The boomers do not want to go softly into that good retirement. ( this is my preferred explanation )
5) They actually believe that Bush and McCain are getter for America than Obama would be. ( this was the big think of the turncoat dems in 1960 … that Nixon would be better than that kennedy boy; 8 years later they voted for Nixon again and got their wishes)

]]> By: TeakwoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137779 TeakwoodKite Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:04:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137779 <em>And you will vote for 4 more years of Bush why?</em> I don't get this way of thinking, I wish someone could make a rational arguement as to why this makes sense... I don't get it. And you will vote for 4 more years of Bush why?

I don’t get this way of thinking, I wish someone could make a rational arguement as to why this makes sense… I don’t get it.

]]> By: TeakwoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137777 TeakwoodKite Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:58:51 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137777 Surpreme Court? Re:Far less Damage? Surpreme Court? Re:Far less Damage?

]]> By: CK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137776 CK Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:55:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137776 They who? The candidates running on the democratic ticket for the various house and senate seats are Obamacrats? The governors and local legislators running as democrats are really Obamacrats? Obama is not a democrat? I want McCain to lose. I want him to lose so badly that he retires in disgrace. I expect any other person and most domesticated animals would do less damage to the country than McCain in the presidency would. I would like to see the dems run the table 50-0 this time out. And you will vote for 4 more years of Bush why? They who?
The candidates running on the democratic ticket for the various house and senate seats are Obamacrats? The governors and local legislators running as democrats are really Obamacrats?
Obama is not a democrat?

I want McCain to lose. I want him to lose so badly that he retires in disgrace. I expect any other person and most domesticated animals would do less damage to the country than McCain in the presidency would. I would like to see the dems run the table 50-0 this time out. And you will vote for 4 more years of Bush why?

]]> By: ellag http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137646 ellag Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:14:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137646 They are electing Obamacrats not Democrats...big difference. If you want McCain to win you better defeat Obama now... Between those two I (long time dem) will vote for McCain. He will do far less damage to our country. They are electing Obamacrats not Democrats…big difference.

If you want McCain to win you better defeat Obama now…

Between those two I (long time dem) will vote for McCain. He will do far less damage to our country.

]]> By: CK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137557 CK Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:10:43 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137557 Highways and schools are owned by states and localities. The states are already selling of their toll roads, ports and other assets to foreign countries without any federal help at all. To privatize social security, the congress has to do that. Given that the democrats are hell bent on electing more better democrats this time to both houses of congress, social security does not appear in danger of privatization. If your worry is that social security will go bankrupt 40 years down the road, the easiest and least painful solution is to raise the cap over which income is not taxed for social security. The mess in NOLA you can lay entirely at the feet of FEMA and DHS and the Bush administration. You might want to add a bit of congress bashing since the dems have had the power for two years now to do something about NOLA just as they have had the power to defund the war anytime they wanted. I have not seen a list of who Senator Obama has chosen for his economic advisors, they might be from the Chicago school of monetary economics, I am fairly sure they are not from the NYT editorial pages or failed Keynsians from Yale and Harvard and Princeton. Highways and schools are owned by states and localities. The states are already selling of their toll roads, ports and other assets to foreign countries without any federal help at all.
To privatize social security, the congress has to do that. Given that the democrats are hell bent on electing more better democrats this time to both houses of congress, social security does not appear in danger of privatization. If your worry is that social security will go bankrupt 40 years down the road, the easiest and least painful solution is to raise the cap over which income is not taxed for social security.
The mess in NOLA you can lay entirely at the feet of FEMA and DHS and the Bush administration. You might want to add a bit of congress bashing since the dems have had the power for two years now to do something about NOLA just as they have had the power to defund the war anytime they wanted.
I have not seen a list of who Senator Obama has chosen for his economic advisors, they might be from the Chicago school of monetary economics, I am fairly sure they are not from the NYT editorial pages or failed Keynsians from Yale and Harvard and Princeton.

]]> By: ellag http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137542 ellag Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:45:23 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137542 Krugman is correct: "I know that Mr. Obama’s supporters hate to hear this, but he really is less progressive than his rivals on matters of domestic policy." Obama is the good-looking suit out front for the "Chicago Boys". He will oversee the privatization, not only of social security, but also highways and schools. Take a look at New Orleans and see what a mess that turned out to be. Obama will pay down the national debt by selling off our national assets...most likely to foreigners. PS: The use of the word "boys" is not intended as a racial slur so dont get your undies in a knot over that. <blockquote></blockquote> Krugman is correct:

“I know that Mr. Obama’s supporters hate to hear this, but he really is less progressive than his rivals on matters of domestic policy.”
Obama is the good-looking suit out front for the “Chicago Boys”. He will oversee the privatization, not only of social security, but also highways and schools.
Take a look at New Orleans and see what a mess that turned out to be.
Obama will pay down the national debt by selling off our national assets…most likely to foreigners.

PS: The use of the word “boys” is not intended as a racial slur so dont get your undies in a knot over that.

]]> By: CK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137502 CK Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:42:26 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137502 I doubt many people here need more sources of right wing/neocon thinking to absorb and regurgitate. We know what is in store for whoever heads the ticket. This crap did not start with bush it will not end with the next president. It is old hat and holding it up as some fearsome bogeyman is just foolish. Denenberg is an old rightwing/AIPAC hack. He has polluted the PA newspapers and TV for decades. Every con artist and campaign manager has studied Rove and his techniques for the last 8 years. And most of them have also studied Rove's abject failure in 2006. So I beg to differ, in this case it is a source. I doubt many people here need more sources of right wing/neocon thinking to absorb and regurgitate.
We know what is in store for whoever heads the ticket. This crap did not start with bush it will not end with the next president. It is old hat and holding it up as some fearsome bogeyman is just foolish.
Denenberg is an old rightwing/AIPAC hack. He has polluted the PA newspapers and TV for decades.
Every con artist and campaign manager has studied Rove and his techniques for the last 8 years. And most of them have also studied Rove’s abject failure in 2006.
So I beg to differ, in this case it is a source.

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137495 SusanUnPC Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:32:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137495 I was merely quoting what their opinion page said to give a flavor of where they are coming from. I was merely quoting what their opinion page said to give a flavor of where they are coming from.

]]> By: CK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137487 CK Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:21:37 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/the-economist-but-could-he-deliver/#comment-137487 Denenberg now, Glenn Beck soon. Eventually Bill Kristol will be the responsible voice; loved here almost as much as he is loved on The Daily Show. Denenberg now, Glenn Beck soon. Eventually Bill Kristol will be the responsible voice; loved here almost as much as he is loved on The Daily Show.

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