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		<title>By: teentoplinks</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-1165080</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CaptainAmerica</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re NAFTA, with all respect to the writer and the respondents, what's the beef? Before NAFTA our companies had maquilladoras south of the border making everything from brooms to circuit boards but with no reciprocal trade privileges. So how did implementing NAFTA make things worse for U.S. workers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re NAFTA, with all respect to the writer and the respondents, what&#8217;s the beef? Before NAFTA our companies had maquilladoras south of the border making everything from brooms to circuit boards but with no reciprocal trade privileges. So how did implementing NAFTA make things worse for U.S. workers?</p>
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		<title>By: 7NoTrumpxx</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-150852</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Gergen Confirms Clinton Didn't Back NAFTA
 
David Gergen, former advisor to President Bill Clinton confirms to CNN that Hillary Clinton did not support NAFTA.

Gergen was in the Clinton Administration as well as several Republican Administrations as an adviser.

Go to youtube.com and search for "Gergen NAFTA Clinton"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Gergen Confirms Clinton Didn&#8217;t Back NAFTA</p>
<p>David Gergen, former advisor to President Bill Clinton confirms to CNN that Hillary Clinton did not support NAFTA.</p>
<p>Gergen was in the Clinton Administration as well as several Republican Administrations as an adviser.</p>
<p>Go to youtube.com and search for &#8220;Gergen NAFTA Clinton&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: It IS the Economy : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>It IS the Economy : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the actual policies of the two candidates, and find out who&#8217;s the best on the economy and on NAFTA (another issue that Barack Obama has lied about, including that he supports &#8220;free [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the actual policies of the two candidates, and find out who&#8217;s the best on the economy and on NAFTA (another issue that Barack Obama has lied about, including that he supports &#8220;free [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139748</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Northwest,

Care to comment on Hillary saying that the worth of NAFTA has been proven to one audience and saying something different to another?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Northwest,</p>
<p>Care to comment on Hillary saying that the worth of NAFTA has been proven to one audience and saying something different to another?</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139746</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mass,

I have been clear on this after I decided to support Obama.
I don't trust Hillary. She has proven over and over to be dishonest and unprincipled. 

Thanks to all of you for helping Hillary and the GOP.


Republicans Gearing Up To Attack Obama
By Eric Kleefeld - February 18, 2008, 8:58AM
After spending at least the past year planning on how they'd run against Hillary Clinton in 2008, Republican operatives are now busy putting together a plan of attack against Barack Obama now that he's currently out front for the Democrats.

Among their points against him, according to a plan laid out at an RNC retreat:

• He is not ready to be commander in chief.

• Taking a page from the Hillary Clinton campaign, he had a "pattern of voting 'present'" in the Illinois legislature.

• The Republicans "can be confident in a campaign about issues," seemingly in contrast to his mere rhetoric.

• He is inexperienced.

"Forgetting who will be the easiest to beat," said Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA), "I've got to tell you, a President Hillary doesn't scare me nearly as much as a President Obama."

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/repbulicans_gearing_up_to_atta.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mass,</p>
<p>I have been clear on this after I decided to support Obama.<br />
I don&#8217;t trust Hillary. She has proven over and over to be dishonest and unprincipled. </p>
<p>Thanks to all of you for helping Hillary and the GOP.</p>
<p>Republicans Gearing Up To Attack Obama<br />
By Eric Kleefeld - February 18, 2008, 8:58AM<br />
After spending at least the past year planning on how they&#8217;d run against Hillary Clinton in 2008, Republican operatives are now busy putting together a plan of attack against Barack Obama now that he&#8217;s currently out front for the Democrats.</p>
<p>Among their points against him, according to a plan laid out at an RNC retreat:</p>
<p>• He is not ready to be commander in chief.</p>
<p>• Taking a page from the Hillary Clinton campaign, he had a &#8220;pattern of voting &#8216;present&#8217;&#8221; in the Illinois legislature.</p>
<p>• The Republicans &#8220;can be confident in a campaign about issues,&#8221; seemingly in contrast to his mere rhetoric.</p>
<p>• He is inexperienced.</p>
<p>&#8220;Forgetting who will be the easiest to beat,&#8221; said Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA), &#8220;I&#8217;ve got to tell you, a President Hillary doesn&#8217;t scare me nearly as much as a President Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/repbulicans_gearing_up_to_atta.php" rel="nofollow">http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/repbulicans_gearing_up_to_atta.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139696</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Positions on trade are about the same across the political sprectrum.
There are a few isolationists who do not wish to trade with anyone.  This position would make importing energy very difficult as well as exporting corn.
There is the non-interventionist position, trade with anybody that wants to trade, don't trade with those who don't wish to trade with you, leave the troops at home.
There is the old but waiting in the wings to return Mercantilist position.  One way trade basically controlled through tariffs and import restrictions on imports and guns and power enforcing the export industries.  Smoot-Hawley is the easiest google for the negatives on mercantilism.  
Managed trade, ( the NAFTA model ) if done right it manages to destroy the domestic industries by encouraging and subsidizing the export of jobs and capital and importing loans and consumer goods.  This is the NYT Friedman model not the U of C Friedman.
Absolutely free trade.  Import what you can and are able to pay for, export what you can and are able to collect on.  Not liked by any economist or politician or sugar grower.  No really great government employment possibilities under this kind of trade regimin.
Autarchy ( isolationism in trade ) was thought to be proper for the USA in the 1800's since there was so much land, so many resources and so few people.  Now that the USA is wholly dependent on foreign imports to impede the decline in the standard of living here, some form of NAFTA/WTO/DAVOS model of controlled and enforced trade is necessary for the greatness of the empire.  The downside of it of course is that the Japans, China, Saudi Arabia's end up with enought of American's debt to buy up with that debt the land and people of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Positions on trade are about the same across the political sprectrum.<br />
There are a few isolationists who do not wish to trade with anyone.  This position would make importing energy very difficult as well as exporting corn.<br />
There is the non-interventionist position, trade with anybody that wants to trade, don&#8217;t trade with those who don&#8217;t wish to trade with you, leave the troops at home.<br />
There is the old but waiting in the wings to return Mercantilist position.  One way trade basically controlled through tariffs and import restrictions on imports and guns and power enforcing the export industries.  Smoot-Hawley is the easiest google for the negatives on mercantilism.<br />
Managed trade, ( the NAFTA model ) if done right it manages to destroy the domestic industries by encouraging and subsidizing the export of jobs and capital and importing loans and consumer goods.  This is the NYT Friedman model not the U of C Friedman.<br />
Absolutely free trade.  Import what you can and are able to pay for, export what you can and are able to collect on.  Not liked by any economist or politician or sugar grower.  No really great government employment possibilities under this kind of trade regimin.<br />
Autarchy ( isolationism in trade ) was thought to be proper for the USA in the 1800&#8217;s since there was so much land, so many resources and so few people.  Now that the USA is wholly dependent on foreign imports to impede the decline in the standard of living here, some form of NAFTA/WTO/DAVOS model of controlled and enforced trade is necessary for the greatness of the empire.  The downside of it of course is that the Japans, China, Saudi Arabia&#8217;s end up with enought of American&#8217;s debt to buy up with that debt the land and people of America.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139687</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a whole lot of difference between Krugman and the U of C boys in their economic prescriptions.
Krugamn's basic idea is spend tax money on things he thinks the economy should want.
U of C boys believe that controlling the printing presses so that inflation is kept contstant and positive is enough to allow the maximum tax returns to support whatever someone wants to spend the tax money on.  In both models the primary objective is to avoid allowing the citizenry to spend their own money on the things the citizenry wants.  One side substitutes an all wise pickpocket the other side substitutes an all wise printer.
Neither side had much wisdom.  Both sides agree that military spending is a damn fine thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a whole lot of difference between Krugman and the U of C boys in their economic prescriptions.<br />
Krugamn&#8217;s basic idea is spend tax money on things he thinks the economy should want.<br />
U of C boys believe that controlling the printing presses so that inflation is kept contstant and positive is enough to allow the maximum tax returns to support whatever someone wants to spend the tax money on.  In both models the primary objective is to avoid allowing the citizenry to spend their own money on the things the citizenry wants.  One side substitutes an all wise pickpocket the other side substitutes an all wise printer.<br />
Neither side had much wisdom.  Both sides agree that military spending is a damn fine thing.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139686</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If by "chicago boys" you mean third generation monetary economists trained by the people that were trained by Milton Friedman.  That is a less than wonderful idea.  Better than having Greenspan and Bernanke as advisors however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by &#8220;chicago boys&#8221; you mean third generation monetary economists trained by the people that were trained by Milton Friedman.  That is a less than wonderful idea.  Better than having Greenspan and Bernanke as advisors however.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139680</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two next bumps:
1) Monoline insurers.  Spitzer's deadline for them to recapitalize draws to an end.  Currently, the thinking is that the monolines will have to split themselves.  The profitable part covering and insuring muni debt will be separated from the part that insures the rest of the derivative garbage.  ( This was Buffet's offer from a few days ago that the monolines rebuffed.)  The problem is of course that no one wants the part that insures already defaulted crap.
2) CDS's ( $45.5 TRILLION in nominal value; no one has any idea how much this stuff would really be worth if there were a market for it.)  Short explanation, insurance on the insurance on the insurance against someone somewhere defaulting on a debt.  ( CDS = Credit Default Swap )  Completely unregulated, off the books, but they are legal contracts.  
3) Just a little cloud on the horizon, Standard and Poors and Moodies are making noises about downgrading the ratings of United States debt instruments.  Conjure for a moment what it would mean if Savings bonds or treasury notes did not carry an automatic AAA grade rating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two next bumps:<br />
1) Monoline insurers.  Spitzer&#8217;s deadline for them to recapitalize draws to an end.  Currently, the thinking is that the monolines will have to split themselves.  The profitable part covering and insuring muni debt will be separated from the part that insures the rest of the derivative garbage.  ( This was Buffet&#8217;s offer from a few days ago that the monolines rebuffed.)  The problem is of course that no one wants the part that insures already defaulted crap.<br />
2) CDS&#8217;s ( $45.5 TRILLION in nominal value; no one has any idea how much this stuff would really be worth if there were a market for it.)  Short explanation, insurance on the insurance on the insurance against someone somewhere defaulting on a debt.  ( CDS = Credit Default Swap )  Completely unregulated, off the books, but they are legal contracts.<br />
3) Just a little cloud on the horizon, Standard and Poors and Moodies are making noises about downgrading the ratings of United States debt instruments.  Conjure for a moment what it would mean if Savings bonds or treasury notes did not carry an automatic AAA grade rating.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139608</link>
		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daisy, "some men were talking her &amp; she is attractive."  Are you Hillarys age? Do men not talk to you? I hope you find a nice boyfriend. These lonely hearts comments are drivin' me nutz!!!!!Who  cares about her hair, clothes, make up? Oh, excuse me, you ladies do.  Damn, dozens of posts back Larry even said "she doesn't have fat legs" &amp; youall think Obama is running a cult.  NoQuarter started off as a security &amp; foreign relations site, now it's morphed into a luv Hillary/hate Obama blog, perhaps eventually it can morph into a match maker.com blog.  In the meantime when may I anticipate an interview with Sen. Clinton's hair stylist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daisy, &#8220;some men were talking her &amp; she is attractive.&#8221;  Are you Hillarys age? Do men not talk to you? I hope you find a nice boyfriend. These lonely hearts comments are drivin&#8217; me nutz!!!!!Who  cares about her hair, clothes, make up? Oh, excuse me, you ladies do.  Damn, dozens of posts back Larry even said &#8220;she doesn&#8217;t have fat legs&#8221; &amp; youall think Obama is running a cult.  NoQuarter started off as a security &amp; foreign relations site, now it&#8217;s morphed into a luv Hillary/hate Obama blog, perhaps eventually it can morph into a match maker.com blog.  In the meantime when may I anticipate an interview with Sen. Clinton&#8217;s hair stylist?</p>
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		<title>By: Daisy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139563</link>
		<dc:creator>Daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love her smile and her confidence. She always has a positive attitude and that is what makes her outstanding. Everytime I signed in the site ***BlackCentury.com*** and some men were talking her and said she is attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love her smile and her confidence. She always has a positive attitude and that is what makes her outstanding. Everytime I signed in the site ***BlackCentury.com*** and some men were talking her and said she is attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: Northwest rain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Northwest rain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't tell the difference between a Freeper and an Obamabot -- both groups have the unique ability to blame EVERYTHING on Clinton and to twist everything that either Clinton has done or said.

  I suspect that if random quotes taken from either the Orange Satan or Freeper-ville and impartial judges were asked to pick which was from the Orange Satan or from Freeper-ville -- that the postings would be randomly assigned to either group of nutcakes. 

  MyDD has an exchange on NAFTA -- the Orange Satan squad parrots their messiah's b.s. about Senator Clinton's position on NAFTA and the -- Clinton folks are explaining that Obama is the one who is really free trade and pro-NAFTA. 

  Then I come here and Susan presents a detailed account of Senator Clinton's positions and votes on NAFTA and the Obamabot known as CREE -- does the usual copy-paste junk -- proving what exactly? 

  The 25% right and 25% left use identical tactics -- and have no critical thinking ability. My old Sociology prof was correct -- "the political extremes meet in the middle."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t tell the difference between a Freeper and an Obamabot &#8212; both groups have the unique ability to blame EVERYTHING on Clinton and to twist everything that either Clinton has done or said.</p>
<p>  I suspect that if random quotes taken from either the Orange Satan or Freeper-ville and impartial judges were asked to pick which was from the Orange Satan or from Freeper-ville &#8212; that the postings would be randomly assigned to either group of nutcakes. </p>
<p>  MyDD has an exchange on NAFTA &#8212; the Orange Satan squad parrots their messiah&#8217;s b.s. about Senator Clinton&#8217;s position on NAFTA and the &#8212; Clinton folks are explaining that Obama is the one who is really free trade and pro-NAFTA. </p>
<p>  Then I come here and Susan presents a detailed account of Senator Clinton&#8217;s positions and votes on NAFTA and the Obamabot known as CREE &#8212; does the usual copy-paste junk &#8212; proving what exactly? </p>
<p>  The 25% right and 25% left use identical tactics &#8212; and have no critical thinking ability. My old Sociology prof was correct &#8212; &#8220;the political extremes meet in the middle.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Masslib</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139518</link>
		<dc:creator>Masslib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so you are sitting out this election, right?  Because Obama has an openly free trade position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so you are sitting out this election, right?  Because Obama has an openly free trade position.</p>
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		<title>By: Masslib</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139515</link>
		<dc:creator>Masslib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Durbin voted FOR it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Durbin voted FOR it.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139498</link>
		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopium!  That's priceless.

I have strong suspicions about how he would have voted too.  Did Durbin vote against?  In that case, he might have gone along with the senior Durbin.  But otherwise, he's gone along to get along.

He also bailed on the MoveOn vote -- even though he was THERE at the Senate at the time -- while Hillary Clinton stuck her neck out to vote to support MoveOn against the Republican attack.  ('course, MoveOn rewards her with a kick in the rear.)

Then there's how he bailed on the official Democratic candidate Ned Lamont, and helped Lieberman.  And considers Lieberman his MENTOR!  (Why don't people pay attention to these facts. ... sigh.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopium!  That&#8217;s priceless.</p>
<p>I have strong suspicions about how he would have voted too.  Did Durbin vote against?  In that case, he might have gone along with the senior Durbin.  But otherwise, he&#8217;s gone along to get along.</p>
<p>He also bailed on the MoveOn vote &#8212; even though he was THERE at the Senate at the time &#8212; while Hillary Clinton stuck her neck out to vote to support MoveOn against the Republican attack.  (&#8217;course, MoveOn rewards her with a kick in the rear.)</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s how he bailed on the official Democratic candidate Ned Lamont, and helped Lieberman.  And considers Lieberman his MENTOR!  (Why don&#8217;t people pay attention to these facts. &#8230; sigh.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan,

Davis the poor schumck that the Clinton's send out everything they need someone to front for them? That Lanny Davis?

The one who looked like a fool when the truth came out Monica?

I can't believe that poor guy even shows his face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan,</p>
<p>Davis the poor schumck that the Clinton&#8217;s send out everything they need someone to front for them? That Lanny Davis?</p>
<p>The one who looked like a fool when the truth came out Monica?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe that poor guy even shows his face.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139493</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan,

Slime? How deep of a hole do you want to dig for your candidate? 

She supported NAFTA. Even said (@ 21:34 on recording) NAFTA has proven its worth!  

Co-host Juan Gonzalez takes issue with Hillary Clinton’s statement that NAFTA has “proven its worth”, pointing out that, contrary to the administration’s promises, thus far under NAFTA more American jobs have been lost than gained, and Gonzalez feels that labor unions should hold the Clinton administration accountable for this.

http://www.democracynow.org/1996/3/7/labor_policy_under_the_clinton_administration

Hillary even laughs when she was asked about NAFTA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBypp2hqxaQ


I didn't laugh when Ross Perot (who I was supporting) was showing those charts and warning us about these trade agreements. 
We're supposed to trust Hillary now?
I also don't recall Hillary or Bill speaking up when some of us were beaten and gassed in Seattle when we opposed those deals that she and Bill supported.

Hillary also supported China joining the WTO. 

2000: Hillary Clinton Claimed China’s Entry Into The World Trade Organization Would Be Good For American Workers Despite The Already Massive Trade Deficit With China. “I know many people, here in Western New York in particularly and Erie Country, are concerned about this vote, and I share the concerns that many of my supporters in organized labor have expressed to me, because I do think we have to make sure that we improve labor rights, we improve environmental standards in our bilateral and our multilateral trade agreements. But on balance, I’ve looked at this, I’ve studied it, I think it is in the interests of America and American workers that we provide the option for China to go into the WTO. Right now, we are trading with China. We have a huge trade deficit with China. The agreement that has been negotiated between our two countries would open their markets to us in a way that they are not yet open, and in fact, for many large manufactured products, like automobiles, we would have the first chance to really get in and compete in that marketplace. I also think it’s not just an issue of trade. I believe it’s a security consideration. I want to do everything we can to persuade China to improve its human rights record, to be sure that it doesn’t in any way interfere with its neighbors or with Taiwan. I don’t think you gain that by isolating China. I think we must work out as best we can a relationship in trade, and a very firm statement and commitment to improving human rights and try to make as much progress as possible.” [CNN, 4/26/2000]

2000: Hillary Clinton Supported Permanent Normal Trade Relations (PNTR) For China, Claimed It Would Create Leverage. “Senate candidate Hillary Clinton said Thursday she supported permanent normal trade relations for China, but slammed Beijing’s restrictive birthrate policies. Clinton said she favored ‘engagement’ with China through trade as a way to ‘have whatever influence we can have’ on Beijing to change its dismal record on human rights, labor law and the environment. ‘I understand the challenges they are facing with population, minorities and the move from the countryside into the cities,’ Clinton said Thursday. ‘But I would hope that they would improve their human rights record, and that includes reproductive rights,’ she added.” [Agence France Presse, 5/25/00]

THE PRICE OHIO HAS PAID

Ohio Ranked 5th Among All States In The Number Of Jobs And Jobs Opportunities Lost And In Percent Jobs Lost Due To The Rising Trade Deficit With Canada And Mexico Since The Passage Of NAFTA. Ohio ranked fifth among all states in number of jobs and job opportunities lost due to the rising trade deficit with Canada and Mexico since passage of NAFTA, with 49,886 positions lost. Ohio also ranked fifth in percent of jobs lost, with nearly one percent of the state’s employment (.92 percent) lost. [“NAFTA’s Cautionary Tale,” 7/20/05  &gt; ]

Ohio Ranked 7th Among All States In The Number Of Jobs Lost Due To The Rising Trade Deficit With China, With 66,100 Jobs Lost. Ohio ranked seventh among all states in net job loss due to the growing trade deficit with China, with 66,100 jobs lost. Ohio lost 1.2 percent of the state’s employment due to the rising trade deficit with China. [“Costly Trade With China,” 5/2/07  &gt; ]
Dayton, OH: Deuer Manufacturing Laid Of 158 Workers Because The Company Shifted Work To Mexico. Dayton-based Deuer Manufacturing Inc. laid off 158 workers because the company shifted its tire winch assembly plant to Mexico, according to the report. [Dayton Business Journal, 7/8/05]

Does Hillary vote so that people can donate to Bill's library?


Voted YES on free trade agreement with Oman. (Jun 2006) 


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/14/AR2007121402124_pf.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan,</p>
<p>Slime? How deep of a hole do you want to dig for your candidate? </p>
<p>She supported NAFTA. Even said (@ 21:34 on recording) NAFTA has proven its worth!  </p>
<p>Co-host Juan Gonzalez takes issue with Hillary Clinton’s statement that NAFTA has “proven its worth”, pointing out that, contrary to the administration’s promises, thus far under NAFTA more American jobs have been lost than gained, and Gonzalez feels that labor unions should hold the Clinton administration accountable for this.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/1996/3/7/labor_policy_under_the_clinton_administration" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/1996/3/7/labor_policy_under_the_clinton_administration</a></p>
<p>Hillary even laughs when she was asked about NAFTA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBypp2hqxaQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBypp2hqxaQ</a></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t laugh when Ross Perot (who I was supporting) was showing those charts and warning us about these trade agreements.<br />
We&#8217;re supposed to trust Hillary now?<br />
I also don&#8217;t recall Hillary or Bill speaking up when some of us were beaten and gassed in Seattle when we opposed those deals that she and Bill supported.</p>
<p>Hillary also supported China joining the WTO. </p>
<p>2000: Hillary Clinton Claimed China’s Entry Into The World Trade Organization Would Be Good For American Workers Despite The Already Massive Trade Deficit With China. “I know many people, here in Western New York in particularly and Erie Country, are concerned about this vote, and I share the concerns that many of my supporters in organized labor have expressed to me, because I do think we have to make sure that we improve labor rights, we improve environmental standards in our bilateral and our multilateral trade agreements. But on balance, I’ve looked at this, I’ve studied it, I think it is in the interests of America and American workers that we provide the option for China to go into the WTO. Right now, we are trading with China. We have a huge trade deficit with China. The agreement that has been negotiated between our two countries would open their markets to us in a way that they are not yet open, and in fact, for many large manufactured products, like automobiles, we would have the first chance to really get in and compete in that marketplace. I also think it’s not just an issue of trade. I believe it’s a security consideration. I want to do everything we can to persuade China to improve its human rights record, to be sure that it doesn’t in any way interfere with its neighbors or with Taiwan. I don’t think you gain that by isolating China. I think we must work out as best we can a relationship in trade, and a very firm statement and commitment to improving human rights and try to make as much progress as possible.” [CNN, 4/26/2000]</p>
<p>2000: Hillary Clinton Supported Permanent Normal Trade Relations (PNTR) For China, Claimed It Would Create Leverage. “Senate candidate Hillary Clinton said Thursday she supported permanent normal trade relations for China, but slammed Beijing’s restrictive birthrate policies. Clinton said she favored ‘engagement’ with China through trade as a way to ‘have whatever influence we can have’ on Beijing to change its dismal record on human rights, labor law and the environment. ‘I understand the challenges they are facing with population, minorities and the move from the countryside into the cities,’ Clinton said Thursday. ‘But I would hope that they would improve their human rights record, and that includes reproductive rights,’ she added.” [Agence France Presse, 5/25/00]</p>
<p>THE PRICE OHIO HAS PAID</p>
<p>Ohio Ranked 5th Among All States In The Number Of Jobs And Jobs Opportunities Lost And In Percent Jobs Lost Due To The Rising Trade Deficit With Canada And Mexico Since The Passage Of NAFTA. Ohio ranked fifth among all states in number of jobs and job opportunities lost due to the rising trade deficit with Canada and Mexico since passage of NAFTA, with 49,886 positions lost. Ohio also ranked fifth in percent of jobs lost, with nearly one percent of the state’s employment (.92 percent) lost. [“NAFTA’s Cautionary Tale,” 7/20/05  &gt; ]</p>
<p>Ohio Ranked 7th Among All States In The Number Of Jobs Lost Due To The Rising Trade Deficit With China, With 66,100 Jobs Lost. Ohio ranked seventh among all states in net job loss due to the growing trade deficit with China, with 66,100 jobs lost. Ohio lost 1.2 percent of the state’s employment due to the rising trade deficit with China. [“Costly Trade With China,” 5/2/07  &gt; ]<br />
Dayton, OH: Deuer Manufacturing Laid Of 158 Workers Because The Company Shifted Work To Mexico. Dayton-based Deuer Manufacturing Inc. laid off 158 workers because the company shifted its tire winch assembly plant to Mexico, according to the report. [Dayton Business Journal, 7/8/05]</p>
<p>Does Hillary vote so that people can donate to Bill&#8217;s library?</p>
<p>Voted YES on free trade agreement with Oman. (Jun 2006) </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/14/AR2007121402124_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/14/AR2007121402124_pf.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Masslib</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139484</link>
		<dc:creator>Masslib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, HE DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR KYL-LIEBERMAN.  People have to be high on the hopium to give him credit for a vote he hid from.  Also, Hillary did speak out against the war and for continued inspections.  Who the heck knows how Obama would have voted had he been in the Senate at the time?  My guess.  Present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, HE DIDN&#8217;T SHOW UP FOR KYL-LIEBERMAN.  People have to be high on the hopium to give him credit for a vote he hid from.  Also, Hillary did speak out against the war and for continued inspections.  Who the heck knows how Obama would have voted had he been in the Senate at the time?  My guess.  Present.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/hillary-clinton-on-nafta/#comment-139479</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UHC initiative she put together was also a major work.

I guess never having done any real legislative work, never proposing a brand new way of restructuring the federal government of the United States, those Rove (Bama) boys aren't sure how to approach this issue, with her, other than the usual backyard TPing...

And it shows...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UHC initiative she put together was also a major work.</p>
<p>I guess never having done any real legislative work, never proposing a brand new way of restructuring the federal government of the United States, those Rove (Bama) boys aren&#8217;t sure how to approach this issue, with her, other than the usual backyard TPing&#8230;</p>
<p>And it shows&#8230;</p>
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