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		<title>By: TEA Party Protest A Reaction To Unsound Leasership &#171; Quipster</title>
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		<title>By: xndgixpfqbm</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-473854</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-141106</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Johnson,

You and Taylor Marsh share my nomination for the most Shrill Shill.

You might consider changing the name of your blog to 'No Quarter to Obama"

This quote of yours, relative to your 2005 meeting with Clinton, is all I needed to hear to know that you're really a dope.

"Sadly, much of my initial opinion about Senator Clinton was based on the filth I had heard about her lack of character and private behavior." 

Anyone who would take the least bit seriously the nonsense proffered during the 1990s by the multi-billion dollar Clinton hate industry has got to be a real dumb ass.  And the more I read about you and what you write the more I am convinced that you are indeed a dumb ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Johnson,</p>
<p>You and Taylor Marsh share my nomination for the most Shrill Shill.</p>
<p>You might consider changing the name of your blog to &#8216;No Quarter to Obama&#8221;</p>
<p>This quote of yours, relative to your 2005 meeting with Clinton, is all I needed to hear to know that you&#8217;re really a dope.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sadly, much of my initial opinion about Senator Clinton was based on the filth I had heard about her lack of character and private behavior.&#8221; </p>
<p>Anyone who would take the least bit seriously the nonsense proffered during the 1990s by the multi-billion dollar Clinton hate industry has got to be a real dumb ass.  And the more I read about you and what you write the more I am convinced that you are indeed a dumb ass.</p>
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		<title>By: More Proof of Plagiarism, Stories Don&#8217;t Add Up : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>More Proof of Plagiarism, Stories Don&#8217;t Add Up : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-140420</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred C. Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt; That quote above from one of his admirers — about him risking jail because he did drugs — that’s one that shows just how besotted these “followers” are.

Makes a tough case AGAINST Unrestricted Reproduction, doesn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; That quote above from one of his admirers — about him risking jail because he did drugs — that’s one that shows just how besotted these “followers” are.</p>
<p>Makes a tough case AGAINST Unrestricted Reproduction, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Spriggs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-140179</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Spriggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate it when that happens. 

If Obama becomes the nominee, I hope us Democrats aren't going to throw up our hands and run around the room like scared little girly-men every time he makes a gaffe. Let's put things into perspective:

Even though, thanks to Bush, the bar for misdeeds is much lower for Republicans, they will lose against a dead man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate it when that happens. </p>
<p>If Obama becomes the nominee, I hope us Democrats aren&#8217;t going to throw up our hands and run around the room like scared little girly-men every time he makes a gaffe. Let&#8217;s put things into perspective:</p>
<p>Even though, thanks to Bush, the bar for misdeeds is much lower for Republicans, they will lose against a dead man.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred C. Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It's only Words, and Words are all I have to take your heart away." - &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Maurice and Barry Gibb&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s only Words, and Words are all I have to take your heart away.&#8221; - <strong><em>Maurice and Barry Gibb</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Plagiarism Goes Wide : NO QUARTER</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-140052</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they&#8217;ll take you to numerous links to numerous MSM and blog stories. For more background, see my story this morning. SEE ALSO: &#8220;RNC donor event outlines Obama attack plan at Politico.com. (Sample: “His [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-140002</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed guessed right, the quote is unidentified by The Third Estate Sunday Review but it is from Dave Lindorff who is usually a smart left critic.  The e-mail was sent to me and I attempted to foward it to both C.I. (who took it to Third) and Larry but on Larry's e-mail, I received an automated message I didn't understand.  If Susan or Larry is interested in it, they can contact me and I'll forward it to them.  I have never written Lindorff so I don't consider it a "private" e-mail.  He chose to write me because I left a comment disagreeing with his endorsement of Obama.  If he wanted to disagree, he could have left a comment below mine disagreeing with him.  I do think it's a big deal that one of his endorsers, and Lindorff has some pull with those of us on the left, wants to cite "risking jail to do drugs" as courage.
By the way, there's a very funny cartoon of the Republican pundits circling up on Obama here
http://thecommonills.blogspot.com/2008/02/isaiahs-world-today-just-nuts-gop.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed guessed right, the quote is unidentified by The Third Estate Sunday Review but it is from Dave Lindorff who is usually a smart left critic.  The e-mail was sent to me and I attempted to foward it to both C.I. (who took it to Third) and Larry but on Larry&#8217;s e-mail, I received an automated message I didn&#8217;t understand.  If Susan or Larry is interested in it, they can contact me and I&#8217;ll forward it to them.  I have never written Lindorff so I don&#8217;t consider it a &#8220;private&#8221; e-mail.  He chose to write me because I left a comment disagreeing with his endorsement of Obama.  If he wanted to disagree, he could have left a comment below mine disagreeing with him.  I do think it&#8217;s a big deal that one of his endorsers, and Lindorff has some pull with those of us on the left, wants to cite &#8220;risking jail to do drugs&#8221; as courage.<br />
By the way, there&#8217;s a very funny cartoon of the Republican pundits circling up on Obama here<br />
<a href="http://thecommonills.blogspot.com/2008/02/isaiahs-world-today-just-nuts-gop.html" rel="nofollow">http://thecommonills.blogspot.com/2008/02/isaiahs-world-today-just-nuts-gop.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Masslib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masslib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deval still has time to become a good Governor.  For the record, I like Deval.  Obama is no Deval.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deval still has time to become a good Governor.  For the record, I like Deval.  Obama is no Deval.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-139906</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn't going to comment on this non-story either but this is funny.

Hillary may have used the words of others.


Late Update: Jake Tapper reports on the same conference call I referenced above:

I asked Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson and Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass, if they could assure the public that neither Clinton nor McGovern has ever done what Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, did when he used the rhetoric of Gov. Deval Patrick without footnoting him. 

&lt;strong&gt;They would not.&lt;/strong&gt;

In fact, &lt;strong&gt;Wolfson seemed to say it wouldn't be as big a deal if it were discovered that Clinton had "lifted" such language.&lt;/strong&gt;

"Sen. Clinton is not running on the strength of her rhetoric," Wolfson said.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t going to comment on this non-story either but this is funny.</p>
<p>Hillary may have used the words of others.</p>
<p>Late Update: Jake Tapper reports on the same conference call I referenced above:</p>
<p>I asked Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson and Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass, if they could assure the public that neither Clinton nor McGovern has ever done what Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, did when he used the rhetoric of Gov. Deval Patrick without footnoting him. </p>
<p><strong>They would not.</strong></p>
<p>In fact, <strong>Wolfson seemed to say it wouldn&#8217;t be as big a deal if it were discovered that Clinton had &#8220;lifted&#8221; such language.</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Sen. Clinton is not running on the strength of her rhetoric,&#8221; Wolfson said.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ybnormal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-139884</link>
		<dc:creator>ybnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an observation:
I haven't read Alice Walker's book 'We are the ones we have been waiting for', and I'm not a subscriber to Publisher's Weekly, but quoting from
http://www.powells.com/biblio/9781595581372?&amp;PID=32318
PW's review used by various booksellers:

"In a speech to the graduating class of the California Institute of Integral Studies, Walker urges that we not fear the pause that 'wisdom requires' when 'something major is accomplished,' despite our eagerness to rush into 'The Future.'"

- compared with her view of Obama,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-9gq_htUo
"He knows he has what it takes, I know he has what it takes.  Well the other people have had so much experience in misleading us, in disappointing us, and never telling us the truth hardly ever about why they're doing things, so we don't need any more of that."

From the few other items I've read of Walker's, she seems capable of offering useful insight.  But in this case, she might want to use her own advice RE the pause that wisdom requires before rushing into the future.

Dismissing experience because other's experience was used negatively, amounts to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an observation:<br />
I haven&#8217;t read Alice Walker&#8217;s book &#8216;We are the ones we have been waiting for&#8217;, and I&#8217;m not a subscriber to Publisher&#8217;s Weekly, but quoting from<br />
<a href="http://www.powells.com/biblio/9781595581372?&amp;PID=32318" rel="nofollow">http://www.powells.com/biblio/9781595581372?&amp;PID=32318</a><br />
PW&#8217;s review used by various booksellers:</p>
<p>&#8220;In a speech to the graduating class of the California Institute of Integral Studies, Walker urges that we not fear the pause that &#8216;wisdom requires&#8217; when &#8217;something major is accomplished,&#8217; despite our eagerness to rush into &#8216;The Future.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>- compared with her view of Obama,<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-9gq_htUo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-9gq_htUo</a><br />
&#8220;He knows he has what it takes, I know he has what it takes.  Well the other people have had so much experience in misleading us, in disappointing us, and never telling us the truth hardly ever about why they&#8217;re doing things, so we don&#8217;t need any more of that.&#8221;</p>
<p>From the few other items I&#8217;ve read of Walker&#8217;s, she seems capable of offering useful insight.  But in this case, she might want to use her own advice RE the pause that wisdom requires before rushing into the future.</p>
<p>Dismissing experience because other&#8217;s experience was used negatively, amounts to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.</p>
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		<title>By: Grizzly Groundswell &#187; Obama is a Plagiarist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grizzly Groundswell &#187; Obama is a Plagiarist</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Obama is a Plagiarist &#171; Wayward Fundamentalist Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama is a Plagiarist &#171; Wayward Fundamentalist Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OxyCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>OxyCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I love it!
Deval and Barack ARE Milli Vanilli!
All we need now is for some creative genius to make a Youtube video of Deval and Barack giving the same speech with some Milli Vanilli songs and imagery thrown in and the thing will go viral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I love it!<br />
Deval and Barack ARE Milli Vanilli!<br />
All we need now is for some creative genius to make a Youtube video of Deval and Barack giving the same speech with some Milli Vanilli songs and imagery thrown in and the thing will go viral.</p>
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		<title>By: nightjar</title>
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		<dc:creator>nightjar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, a politician said something that was not original. First you and others label Obama an empty suit who just gives a great speech. Then you transfer that to claim that Obama embraces such a silly notion. And finally proclaim that since everything word he says isn't original then everything he says is suspect. Dear lord, so you support Hillary, that's Ok. But to jump on the GOP Obama talking point bandwagon is contemptible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, a politician said something that was not original. First you and others label Obama an empty suit who just gives a great speech. Then you transfer that to claim that Obama embraces such a silly notion. And finally proclaim that since everything word he says isn&#8217;t original then everything he says is suspect. Dear lord, so you support Hillary, that&#8217;s Ok. But to jump on the GOP Obama talking point bandwagon is contemptible.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"I am from Massachusetts. If Obama turns out like Deval we loose again.
Deval is clueless. He can speak but he cannot do."&lt;/em&gt;

Let's not lose focus here, people. This is the bigger issue. How a well-spoken candidate, with a glaringly similar campaign has done nothing but stumble his first year. Interesting that no media outlet has interviewed the good citizens of Mass. and asked them: "How's Deval Patrick worked out for ya?" This really strengthens the contention that Obama at this point in time is the wrong person to be President. &lt;strong&gt;We don't need an on-the-job trainee feeling his way around for the first year with the economy in the shape that it's in.&lt;/strong&gt;

To me, this is BIGGER than the words controversy that the Obamatons are already trivializing. Time to instill reasonable doubt in the voting populace. Deval Patrick's example will do that. Maybe that's the reason why the good people of Massachussetts went for Hillary in spite of Kennedy and Kerry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I am from Massachusetts. If Obama turns out like Deval we loose again.<br />
Deval is clueless. He can speak but he cannot do.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not lose focus here, people. This is the bigger issue. How a well-spoken candidate, with a glaringly similar campaign has done nothing but stumble his first year. Interesting that no media outlet has interviewed the good citizens of Mass. and asked them: &#8220;How&#8217;s Deval Patrick worked out for ya?&#8221; This really strengthens the contention that Obama at this point in time is the wrong person to be President. <strong>We don&#8217;t need an on-the-job trainee feeling his way around for the first year with the economy in the shape that it&#8217;s in.</strong></p>
<p>To me, this is BIGGER than the words controversy that the Obamatons are already trivializing. Time to instill reasonable doubt in the voting populace. Deval Patrick&#8217;s example will do that. Maybe that&#8217;s the reason why the good people of Massachussetts went for Hillary in spite of Kennedy and Kerry.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If O indorsed O then... the the book club is free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If O indorsed O then&#8230; the the book club is free.</p>
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		<title>By: bob h</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-139761</link>
		<dc:creator>bob h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Barack has pulled a Joe Biden is probably not a big deal here, but it is the sort of thing that Republicans would grasp onto and ridicule in a general election.  It is the sort of seemingly minor thing that Republicans would be more than happy to make a big deal out of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Barack has pulled a Joe Biden is probably not a big deal here, but it is the sort of thing that Republicans would grasp onto and ridicule in a general election.  It is the sort of seemingly minor thing that Republicans would be more than happy to make a big deal out of.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/18/just-words-but-whose-words/#comment-139739</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Against my better judgment, I went and looked at the comments on the Daily Joke – those people are too far gone to ever come back.  I guess they don’t get that Deval Patrick now coming out to say that it’s just peachy that Obama is using material from Patrick’s campaign is not really the point.  

You know, I understand that people can develop blind spots about their preferred candidate, can part company with logic in order to defend their candidate, but...  

am I crazy to think that, for the most part, those supporting Hillary know what her faults are, what her weak points are, where she has been inconsistent – and can admit them in public.  She’s the human candidate in the race – the one like all the rest of us who have never been perfect, have done things we regret, hae learned from our mistakes.  We are people like this, we love people like this - these are our families.

What I see from Obama supporters is no willingness to see his flaws, or to even admit that he has flaws – so any questions are turned away because, well, Obama can do no wrong.  Which makes him not human.  Which means those that dare to question must be punished for their heresy.

What continues to astound me is the irony of someone who preaches (and yes, he does preach, and I’m getting really, really tired of the pastoral inflection and tone of his voice) unity and the end of bitterness, and who has the most divisive, bitter and cruel supporters out there.  I just fail to see the positives in people getting out the long knives for those who do not support Obama – but I think the Obama supporters are completely and utterly irony-proof.

Susan, I applaud your willingness to take on the gangs roaming Daily Joke with their pitchforks and clubs, looking for errant Clinton supporters to beat up on and drive away.  I always thought that to be progressive meant a willingness to listen and engage - this closed-mindedness that Obama has inspired in people does not bode well for the cause, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Against my better judgment, I went and looked at the comments on the Daily Joke – those people are too far gone to ever come back.  I guess they don’t get that Deval Patrick now coming out to say that it’s just peachy that Obama is using material from Patrick’s campaign is not really the point.  </p>
<p>You know, I understand that people can develop blind spots about their preferred candidate, can part company with logic in order to defend their candidate, but&#8230;  </p>
<p>am I crazy to think that, for the most part, those supporting Hillary know what her faults are, what her weak points are, where she has been inconsistent – and can admit them in public.  She’s the human candidate in the race – the one like all the rest of us who have never been perfect, have done things we regret, hae learned from our mistakes.  We are people like this, we love people like this - these are our families.</p>
<p>What I see from Obama supporters is no willingness to see his flaws, or to even admit that he has flaws – so any questions are turned away because, well, Obama can do no wrong.  Which makes him not human.  Which means those that dare to question must be punished for their heresy.</p>
<p>What continues to astound me is the irony of someone who preaches (and yes, he does preach, and I’m getting really, really tired of the pastoral inflection and tone of his voice) unity and the end of bitterness, and who has the most divisive, bitter and cruel supporters out there.  I just fail to see the positives in people getting out the long knives for those who do not support Obama – but I think the Obama supporters are completely and utterly irony-proof.</p>
<p>Susan, I applaud your willingness to take on the gangs roaming Daily Joke with their pitchforks and clubs, looking for errant Clinton supporters to beat up on and drive away.  I always thought that to be progressive meant a willingness to listen and engage - this closed-mindedness that Obama has inspired in people does not bode well for the cause, does it?</p>
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