Comments on: Hmmm … who is Krugman talking about? http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:13:54 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Frostback http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143953 Frostback Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:09:01 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143953 I hate to be the guest complaining about the room temperature, but I visited this site, and immediately got the shivers. Maybe it's just me, but everything seems off - starting with the fact that just about every minority is represented in the staffing. I know *that* sounds like a weird thing to say. What are the chances, tho? The tone is wrong, as well. It looks like a snare of some sort. Is this the type of blogging the washingtonpost or some paper was writing about recently? Hope I didn't screw up my welcome here... I hate to be the guest complaining about the room temperature, but I visited this site, and immediately got the shivers. Maybe it’s just me, but everything seems off – starting with the fact that just about every minority is represented in the staffing. I know *that* sounds like a weird thing to say. What are the chances, tho? The tone is wrong, as well. It looks like a snare of some sort. Is this the type of blogging the washingtonpost or some paper was writing about recently?

Hope I didn’t screw up my welcome here…

]]> By: Frostback http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143923 Frostback Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:24:03 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143923 When I first read the 11/06 Sun-Times interview of Obama re the house purchase, a couple of things struck me as strange: he used the term "to the best of my recollection" when asked 'who approached who' on the idea of buying jointly. I thought, "what the hell?". He's recently bought a 1.65 million mansion, and he adds a cavaet to his answer like 'as I remember'? The article also includes this: "Obama and Rezko have been friends since 1990, and Obama said the Wilmette businessman raised as much as $60,000 for him during his political career. After Rezko's indictment, Obama donated $11,500 to charity--a total that represents what Rezko contributed to the senator's federal campaign fund." I could have sworn I read somewhere that the total raised by Rezko was $120,000. Am I wrong on that? When I first read the 11/06 Sun-Times interview of Obama re the house purchase, a couple of things struck me as strange: he used the term “to the best of my recollection” when asked ‘who approached who’ on the idea of buying jointly. I thought, “what the hell?”. He’s recently bought a 1.65 million mansion, and he adds a cavaet to his answer like ‘as I remember’?

The article also includes this:

“Obama and Rezko have been friends since 1990, and Obama said the Wilmette businessman raised as much as $60,000 for him during his political career. After Rezko’s indictment, Obama donated $11,500 to charity–a total that represents what Rezko contributed to the senator’s federal campaign fund.”

I could have sworn I read somewhere that the total raised by Rezko was $120,000. Am I wrong on that?

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143877 TeakWoodKite Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:37:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143877 NAFTA was FUBAR out of the Gate. I recall the unions did raise hell only to be call protectionists. Go figure. I look at the the video more in line with a personality trait of Obama's. I <em>am</em> surprised that during the debate the Texas North American trade road was not discussed as a whole lot a Texans are pissed about it. Rightfully so in my humble opinion. NAFTA was FUBAR out of the Gate. I recall the unions did raise hell only to be call protectionists. Go figure.

I look at the the video more in line with a personality trait of Obama’s.

I am surprised that during the debate the Texas North American trade road was not discussed as a whole lot a Texans are pissed about it. Rightfully so in my humble opinion.

]]> By: justsomeone http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143866 justsomeone Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:01:49 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143866 mimi, the video you posted was posted this past week by Susan. I've thought about it. Blaming Obama for a plant relocating to Mexico is odd. Clinton's NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) is what opened the floodgates for that type of outsourcing/off shoring. The video alledges Obama fained sympathy for the disenfranchised workers but then did nothing. What was he suppose to do? He is now, however, advocating tweeking the tax code to penalize companies that off shore, rather than rewarding them. Currently there is no mechanism to punish them. I suggest you put the blame for NAFTA where the blame belongs. It remains to be seen if the WTO (World Trade Organization) will even allow punative measures to correct all the outsourcing & imbalances. The unions should of raised hell before NAFTA was ratified, by the time Jr. got his hands on it, it was a little too late. mimi, the video you posted was posted this past week by Susan. I’ve thought about it. Blaming Obama for a plant relocating to Mexico is odd. Clinton’s NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) is what opened the floodgates for that type of outsourcing/off shoring. The video alledges Obama fained sympathy for the disenfranchised workers but then did nothing. What was he suppose to do? He is now, however, advocating tweeking the tax code to penalize companies that off shore, rather than rewarding them. Currently there is no mechanism to punish them. I suggest you put the blame for NAFTA where the blame belongs. It remains to be seen if the WTO (World Trade Organization) will even allow punative measures to correct all the outsourcing & imbalances. The unions should of raised hell before NAFTA was ratified, by the time Jr. got his hands on it, it was a little too late.

]]> By: mimi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143621 mimi Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:29:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143621 Check this link out: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23255540#23255540 It's a union leader in Ohio, a Hillary supporter really socking it to Obama. Check this link out:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23255540#23255540

It’s a union leader in Ohio, a Hillary supporter really socking it to Obama.

]]> By: Mike Howell http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143588 Mike Howell Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:45:58 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143588 FYI: Either Obama never could have purchased the mansion without Rezko and/or he wanted the lot too. Rezko clearly never wanted or needed the lot. http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/807793,CST-NWS-rside22.article "The Wondisfords hired Jackson's company, MetroPro Realty, to sell their mansion and the adjacent lot. Several people wanted to buy the lot without the house, but Jackson said the Wondisfords "insisted these two properties close on the same day.'' Obama and Rezko visited the property together, according to Obama's campaign staff, then bought it. Obama has since called the deal "boneheaded'' because, at the time, Rezko already was widely known to be under federal investigation. Obama paid $1.65 million for the mansion -- $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife, Rita Rezko, paid $625,000 -- the full asking price -- for the adjacent lot, then sold a piece of it to Obama. Rezko's wife has since sold the property to Michael Sreenan, a former Rezko attorney. Now, Sreenan has hired Jackson to sell the lot." FYI:

Either Obama never could have purchased the mansion without Rezko and/or he wanted the lot too. Rezko clearly never wanted or needed the lot.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/807793,CST-NWS-rside22.article

“The Wondisfords hired Jackson’s company, MetroPro Realty, to sell their mansion and the adjacent lot. Several people wanted to buy the lot without the house, but Jackson said the Wondisfords “insisted these two properties close on the same day.”

Obama and Rezko visited the property together, according to Obama’s campaign staff, then bought it. Obama has since called the deal “boneheaded” because, at the time, Rezko already was widely known to be under federal investigation.

Obama paid $1.65 million for the mansion — $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko’s wife, Rita Rezko, paid $625,000 — the full asking price — for the adjacent lot, then sold a piece of it to Obama. Rezko’s wife has since sold the property to Michael Sreenan, a former Rezko attorney. Now, Sreenan has hired Jackson to sell the lot.”

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143579 SusanUnPC Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:20:54 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143579 Jamal, I was grateful to find out about the problem and to respond to your post at your site. I hope you'll add a little note that you heard from me. Although he's "out of pocket," Larry would heartily concur -- and thank you for your excellent site. You're in a scary position. I don't envy you. The heat you're taking must be unreal. Thank you for your courage. Everyone should visit his site: http://www.stop-obama.org Jamal, I was grateful to find out about the problem and to respond to your post at your site. I hope you’ll add a little note that you heard from me. Although he’s “out of pocket,” Larry would heartily concur — and thank you for your excellent site. You’re in a scary position. I don’t envy you. The heat you’re taking must be unreal. Thank you for your courage.

Everyone should visit his site: http://www.stop-obama.org

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143567 SusanUnPC Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:54:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143567 Cloudy, that was a very sharp thing to do... I sent your link on to a couple pals, and hope they post about it. There are some really great videos out there. I'm so smitten with "Bamboozled" -- it's up here at NoQ in lots of places -- just use our handy-dandy search engine. The last time I posted it, it was at the end of the article so just scroll. Cloudy, that was a very sharp thing to do… I sent your link on to a couple pals, and hope they post about it.

There are some really great videos out there. I’m so smitten with “Bamboozled” — it’s up here at NoQ in lots of places — just use our handy-dandy search engine. The last time I posted it, it was at the end of the article so just scroll.

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143566 SusanUnPC Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:49:19 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143566 Oh my god. That is the best. Will post shortly. WTG, MassLib. Oh my god. That is the best.

Will post shortly. WTG, MassLib.

]]> By: wethornet http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143560 wethornet Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:29:39 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143560 if you did NOT click on the youtube video you might want to reconsider. time: 03:49 <em>quite simply that might be the best video out there this political season. it is staggeringly good on many levels.</em> it uses music (the song's a classic, and they do their own rewrite), it's creative, it's humorous, it's powerful. if you did NOT click on the youtube video you might want to reconsider. time: 03:49

quite simply that might be the best video out there this political season. it is staggeringly good on many levels.

it uses music (the song’s a classic, and they do their own rewrite), it’s creative, it’s humorous, it’s powerful.

]]> By: cloudy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143482 cloudy Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:13:36 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143482 I added this video to Digg. http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/It_Takes_More_Than_Hope_To_Get_Change One thing I have noticed is how pervasive Obama's support is on these sites. Any article or video even remotely positive towards Hillary or negative towards Obama is slammed while anything anti-Hillary is recc'd up. As a 30 yr old I can attest to how much people in my generation use these sites to get our news, not CNN or MSNBC. Kos has flooded the site with it's articles. Please do your part, login, and help push for a more balanced reporting of the news. Tell your friends! Obama is winning the youth vote through the Internet! I added this video to Digg.

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/It_Takes_More_Than_Hope_To_Get_Change

One thing I have noticed is how pervasive Obama’s support is on these sites. Any article or video even remotely positive towards Hillary or negative towards Obama is slammed while anything anti-Hillary is recc’d up. As a 30 yr old I can attest to how much people in my generation use these sites to get our news, not CNN or MSNBC. Kos has flooded the site with it’s articles. Please do your part, login, and help push for a more balanced reporting of the news. Tell your friends! Obama is winning the youth vote through the Internet!

]]> By: cloudy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143474 cloudy Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:54:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143474 That was more effective than any video I've seen from her yet. Of course, I'm in the right demographic (Gen Y). Everyone go and vote it up! That was more effective than any video I’ve seen from her yet. Of course, I’m in the right demographic (Gen Y). Everyone go and vote it up!

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143470 TeakWoodKite Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:35:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143470 Jamal the last comment you posted I came across stated that in someway a post implied you were a racist. I went to your site and you had a statement that NQ and one other place "called you racist". I really would like you to claify this as I could find nothing to affirm your allegation. Thanks. No offense intended. Jamal the last comment you posted I came across stated that in someway a post implied you were a racist. I went to your site and you had a statement that NQ and one other place “called you racist”.

I really would like you to claify this as I could find nothing to affirm your allegation.

Thanks. No offense intended.

]]> By: Iphie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143461 Iphie Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:13:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143461 Who produced the video? It may have flashed by as I was watching it, but I didn't notice. Who produced the video? It may have flashed by as I was watching it, but I didn’t notice.

]]> By: Masslib http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143457 Masslib Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:04:41 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/23/hmmm-who-is-krugman-talking-about/#comment-143457 Interesting site. I hadn't seen it before. Obama's message is similar to Bill Bradley, in terms of your poll question. Interesting site. I hadn’t seen it before. Obama’s message is similar to Bill Bradley, in terms of your poll question.

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