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	<title>Comments on: Foreign Policy: Will This Get Fair Play? [UPDATED x2]</title>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-1149536</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton, I have a rat problem..they&#039;re dirty, dangerous and want to destroy my house. I think you despise them, too.

Can you come back in a short while and love them the moment there&#039;s something in it for you? I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll overlook their ugliness as well as your own hypocrisy..after all, with Obama in the White House I&#039;m sure any uncomfortable feelings on your part will be forgotten as quickly as one brushes filth under a carpet..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton, I have a rat problem..they&#8217;re dirty, dangerous and want to destroy my house. I think you despise them, too.</p>
<p>Can you come back in a short while and love them the moment there&#8217;s something in it for you? I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll overlook their ugliness as well as your own hypocrisy..after all, with Obama in the White House I&#8217;m sure any uncomfortable feelings on your part will be forgotten as quickly as one brushes filth under a carpet..</p>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s False Attack Today : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s False Attack Today : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] her &#8220;unequivocal opposition to the use of torture under any circumstances&#8221; [NoQuarter story].) Let Sy Hersh tell the story of how Gen. Taguba told the the truth in the report he was assigned [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] her &#8220;unequivocal opposition to the use of torture under any circumstances&#8221; [NoQuarter story].) Let Sy Hersh tell the story of how Gen. Taguba told the the truth in the report he was assigned [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Johnson on ABC World News Tonight re Bush&#8217;s Veto of Waterboarding Ban : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Johnson on ABC World News Tonight re Bush&#8217;s Veto of Waterboarding Ban : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] OF NOTE &#8212; From &#8220;Foreign Policy: Will This Get Fair Play? [UPDATED [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gen. Shelton Endorses, Obama Thinks Rumsfeld OK : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gen. Shelton Endorses, Obama Thinks Rumsfeld OK : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] her &#8220;unequivocal opposition to the use of torture under any circumstances&#8221; (NoQuarter story) &#8212; what he thinks of Donald Rumsfeld. Let Sy Hersh tell the story of how Gen. Taguba told the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] her &#8220;unequivocal opposition to the use of torture under any circumstances&#8221; (NoQuarter story) &#8212; what he thinks of Donald Rumsfeld. Let Sy Hersh tell the story of how Gen. Taguba told the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-146265</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this mean were&#039;re not going steady anymore?</description>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-146262</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you , Susan.

I hope you&#039;re feeling better, recovering well.

Things are hopping, here, like a fire dance, sometimes it&#039;s a deliberate influx of information, to confuse and discourage.

It&#039;s a pattern, I see the same kind of stories, over and over, it&#039;s like a dance, or a musical piece.

In music theory, we had to identify the motif, the expansion, the chord structure, key, the time signature, the development of the motif, et al -- (by ear, no less) you learn to spot the same type PR drops on the blogs, over a period of months, it&#039;s like analyzing a piece of classical music. 

PR ops always operate the same way, boring.

And music theory was HARD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you , Susan.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re feeling better, recovering well.</p>
<p>Things are hopping, here, like a fire dance, sometimes it&#8217;s a deliberate influx of information, to confuse and discourage.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pattern, I see the same kind of stories, over and over, it&#8217;s like a dance, or a musical piece.</p>
<p>In music theory, we had to identify the motif, the expansion, the chord structure, key, the time signature, the development of the motif, et al &#8212; (by ear, no less) you learn to spot the same type PR drops on the blogs, over a period of months, it&#8217;s like analyzing a piece of classical music. </p>
<p>PR ops always operate the same way, boring.</p>
<p>And music theory was HARD.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-146252</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Times and the Post are a joke, keep up, next thing you know you will actually believe that shit they write is relevant.

Groupthink is dangerous, deluded groupthink is even more dangerous.

How shall they troll groupkos, today?

Or wait, kos has no enemies, right, and he can take it , he knows that &quot;irrational exuberance&quot; means...

Or better yet, let&#039;s troll the goodship cheney, he&#039;s really smart, he&#039;s got the CIA, and military gaming for him, no one can troll Dick Cheney, right?

Except every intelligence agency out there, and Cheney has...Addington, and people who think like you, cee. Intelligence is a fact of life, and America has real enemies, and not even because the country did something wrong, just because it&#039;s part of the game.

How is America doing in Iraq?

Imagine someone who thinks like you, Cee, advising the President on his next move, in Iraq.

Should explain a lot.

Oh, where will the good ship shallow intellect-ed specious narcissist land next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Times and the Post are a joke, keep up, next thing you know you will actually believe that shit they write is relevant.</p>
<p>Groupthink is dangerous, deluded groupthink is even more dangerous.</p>
<p>How shall they troll groupkos, today?</p>
<p>Or wait, kos has no enemies, right, and he can take it , he knows that &#8220;irrational exuberance&#8221; means&#8230;</p>
<p>Or better yet, let&#8217;s troll the goodship cheney, he&#8217;s really smart, he&#8217;s got the CIA, and military gaming for him, no one can troll Dick Cheney, right?</p>
<p>Except every intelligence agency out there, and Cheney has&#8230;Addington, and people who think like you, cee. Intelligence is a fact of life, and America has real enemies, and not even because the country did something wrong, just because it&#8217;s part of the game.</p>
<p>How is America doing in Iraq?</p>
<p>Imagine someone who thinks like you, Cee, advising the President on his next move, in Iraq.</p>
<p>Should explain a lot.</p>
<p>Oh, where will the good ship shallow intellect-ed specious narcissist land next?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-146249</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should be the last ones to mock anyone.

You just cannot see yourselves, can you?

Wow.

Certainly explains why your trolls suck the way they do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be the last ones to mock anyone.</p>
<p>You just cannot see yourselves, can you?</p>
<p>Wow.</p>
<p>Certainly explains why your trolls suck the way they do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-146238</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bad experience in the past and past experience to come.
No thank you. No more war in Yugoslavia. We see how well that went.
Look up Kosovo and the KLA if you doubt me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


War now, ain&#039;t what it used to be, and there will be no resolution, if you keep looking for a black/white answer. America can strengthen it&#039;s strategic position, can pull it&#039;s troops out, can play asymmetrically, but, boy , it better be handled by smart people, and not those who think Salon is a paragon of intellectual progress or for that matter, those who think Strauss and Ron Paul have got it right.

Look at those people, we are speaking of an international asymmetric war, and you and the rest of the kabob-lites are currently engaged in a battle of the narcissistic twits, each thinking they&#039;re manipulating the other ( and the republicans do it better, btw, but then look at the weak, fatuous Kos, or Salon, geez, a clever six year old could take that group) but in the long run, no matter who wins, neither group can sustain any progress, or even their agenda, because neither have real intellect, all behave selfishly, and stupidly. Think this is a problem? All the weapons in the world, and America can&#039;t win a war. Why?

Stupid narcissists.


And it is ingenuity, selfless ingenuity, that made America great, now usurped by a bunch of moron &quot;trolls,&quot; really, look at Neb -- he&#039;s what passes for intelligent in Washington, these days, and he could be kos, but he&#039;s not smart enough to be Rove, which should be very frightening, to everyone, Karl Rove as the Washington intellect.

heh.


Your attitude, Cee, astounds me, your lack of complete sophistication in understanding the dynamics governing Kosovo, your use of this issue v Clitnon, for short term gain, only to shoot yourself, and the country, in the heart. 

Where are these terrorist groups getting their guns? Where are they getting the money, who is encouraging this, how does it affect oil, and therefore our economy? You either face it realistically, or you lose, a war of attrition, versus America, narcissists at war, whether they&#039;re Bush, Cheney or the Obama fleet, in the navy...(I love that song, the village people are great, aren&#039;t they?)

That you would think isolation, or NOT fighting, OR attacking, directly, as Cheney does, old farts do WW2, try to pretend they have a working penis, is breathtaking.

Really, every time you troll, oh, write, I&#039;m left astounded you are unable to see your position, YOURSELF, YOUR WORDS, clearly, and the greater implications, as if no one understands what you&#039;re doing, as if no one is taking advantage of YOU, or more accurately, the people who think like you.

Breathtakingly obtuse, dull witted, no wonder Obama stinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bad experience in the past and past experience to come.<br />
No thank you. No more war in Yugoslavia. We see how well that went.<br />
Look up Kosovo and the KLA if you doubt me.</p></blockquote>
<p>War now, ain&#8217;t what it used to be, and there will be no resolution, if you keep looking for a black/white answer. America can strengthen it&#8217;s strategic position, can pull it&#8217;s troops out, can play asymmetrically, but, boy , it better be handled by smart people, and not those who think Salon is a paragon of intellectual progress or for that matter, those who think Strauss and Ron Paul have got it right.</p>
<p>Look at those people, we are speaking of an international asymmetric war, and you and the rest of the kabob-lites are currently engaged in a battle of the narcissistic twits, each thinking they&#8217;re manipulating the other ( and the republicans do it better, btw, but then look at the weak, fatuous Kos, or Salon, geez, a clever six year old could take that group) but in the long run, no matter who wins, neither group can sustain any progress, or even their agenda, because neither have real intellect, all behave selfishly, and stupidly. Think this is a problem? All the weapons in the world, and America can&#8217;t win a war. Why?</p>
<p>Stupid narcissists.</p>
<p>And it is ingenuity, selfless ingenuity, that made America great, now usurped by a bunch of moron &#8220;trolls,&#8221; really, look at Neb &#8212; he&#8217;s what passes for intelligent in Washington, these days, and he could be kos, but he&#8217;s not smart enough to be Rove, which should be very frightening, to everyone, Karl Rove as the Washington intellect.</p>
<p>heh.</p>
<p>Your attitude, Cee, astounds me, your lack of complete sophistication in understanding the dynamics governing Kosovo, your use of this issue v Clitnon, for short term gain, only to shoot yourself, and the country, in the heart. </p>
<p>Where are these terrorist groups getting their guns? Where are they getting the money, who is encouraging this, how does it affect oil, and therefore our economy? You either face it realistically, or you lose, a war of attrition, versus America, narcissists at war, whether they&#8217;re Bush, Cheney or the Obama fleet, in the navy&#8230;(I love that song, the village people are great, aren&#8217;t they?)</p>
<p>That you would think isolation, or NOT fighting, OR attacking, directly, as Cheney does, old farts do WW2, try to pretend they have a working penis, is breathtaking.</p>
<p>Really, every time you troll, oh, write, I&#8217;m left astounded you are unable to see your position, YOURSELF, YOUR WORDS, clearly, and the greater implications, as if no one understands what you&#8217;re doing, as if no one is taking advantage of YOU, or more accurately, the people who think like you.</p>
<p>Breathtakingly obtuse, dull witted, no wonder Obama stinks.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-145627</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A rise of borderless, stateless criminal cartels&lt;/strong&gt;. And the continuing real threat of terrorism here at home and abroad.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Is this a reference to Siebels?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m also very proud that the United States Joint Forces Command invited me to be the only senator to serve on the Transformation Advisory Group,&lt;/blockquote&gt;The Joint Chiefs think she is qualified.
&lt;blockquote&gt;challenges head on without fear and without sowing fear.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>A rise of borderless, stateless criminal cartels</strong>. And the continuing real threat of terrorism here at home and abroad.</p></blockquote>
<p> Is this a reference to Siebels?</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m also very proud that the United States Joint Forces Command invited me to be the only senator to serve on the Transformation Advisory Group,</p></blockquote>
<p>The Joint Chiefs think she is qualified.</p>
<blockquote><p>challenges head on without fear and without sowing fear.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-145625</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must me in the wrong profession, hoosierhoops.
You need to send that to SNL. What a skit. Thanks for howlin funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must me in the wrong profession, hoosierhoops.<br />
You need to send that to SNL. What a skit. Thanks for howlin funny.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-145618</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;what Americans want&lt;/em&gt;
Justice.
What Americans need
The truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>what Americans want</em><br />
Justice.<br />
What Americans need<br />
The truth.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;give me no comfort&lt;/em&gt;
The world is a harsh place. Daddy kite was fond of telling me the wind was just right only so often, and in between it was to much, or none at all. It is human nature to gravitate towards  comfort; away from perceived discord.
I puzzle at the gamble and respect your right to take it, I just disagree it is the right wager to make at this juncture in time. 

One aspect that is not under the microscope is the reality that Americans have a bad tendancy of looking at the world as us and them. Senator Obama is at a severe disadvantage in being able to view the world from a international perspective. I am not saying he is not capable of it, he just doesn&#039;t have the insane amount of life experience on the world stage it takes to a RESPECTED world leader that is taken &lt;em&gt;seriously&lt;/em&gt;. In that context he&#039;s 50 to 1. The truth is never comfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>give me no comfort</em><br />
The world is a harsh place. Daddy kite was fond of telling me the wind was just right only so often, and in between it was to much, or none at all. It is human nature to gravitate towards  comfort; away from perceived discord.<br />
I puzzle at the gamble and respect your right to take it, I just disagree it is the right wager to make at this juncture in time. </p>
<p>One aspect that is not under the microscope is the reality that Americans have a bad tendancy of looking at the world as us and them. Senator Obama is at a severe disadvantage in being able to view the world from a international perspective. I am not saying he is not capable of it, he just doesn&#8217;t have the insane amount of life experience on the world stage it takes to a RESPECTED world leader that is taken <em>seriously</em>. In that context he&#8217;s 50 to 1. The truth is never comfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: 1Watt, eggumacated</title>
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		<dc:creator>1Watt, eggumacated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will she pardon the crooks, ala Ford?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will she pardon the crooks, ala Ford?</p>
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		<title>By: 1Watt, eggumacated</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/25/foreign-policy-will-this-get-fair-play/#comment-145603</link>
		<dc:creator>1Watt, eggumacated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>didn&#039;t larry vote for bush cause he was gong to put in experienced people? 

This kind of is pure rovian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>didn&#8217;t larry vote for bush cause he was gong to put in experienced people? </p>
<p>This kind of is pure rovian.</p>
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