Why Can’t Obama Get His Facts Straight?
By Larry JohnsoncloseAuthor: Larry Johnson
Name: Larry Johnson
Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.[1] He has worked as a private consultant on issues of international terrorism and security for the U.S. Government and private companies. Johnson has appeared as a consultant and commentator in many major newspapers and news programs.[2]
Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Views
2.1 1996
2.2 1998
2.3 1999
2.4 2000
2.5 2001
2.6 2003
2.6.1 Plame affair
2.7 2008
3 Notes
4 References
5 External links
[edit]Background
Larry Johnson moved to Washington, D.C. in 1979 to begin work on a Ph.D. at the American University. Although he completed successfully all coursework and comprehensive exams, he did not write a dissertation. In 1978 and in 1983-85 he worked in Latin America on community development projects as a community organizer. Returning to the United States in 1985 he joined the Central Intelligence Agency, thanks in part to a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) that helped to "open doors" for him at the Agency.[3] Johnson entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985 and was a classmate of Valerie Plame. Every member of that class was undercover. After a year in the Career Trainee program, which included a stint with the Afghan Task Force, Johnson was assigned as an analyst in the Middle America Caribbean Division in the Latin American Affairs Office of the Directorate of Intelligence. He received two Exceptional Performance awards and was promoted ultimately to Senior Regional Analyst for Central America.
Johnson remained undercover in the CIA until October 1989, when he resigned from the CIA and started a new job in the Office of Counter Terrorism at the Department of State. Johnson played an instrumental role in launching the Terrorism Rewards program international advertising campaign (working with Diplomatic Security officers Brad Smith and Michael Parks). [4] Johnson also was involved in a variety of crisis management response operations, including the release of hostages from Lebanon and liaison with the Pan Am 103 families. He left government service in October 1993 and started his own business as a consultant.
After leaving government service, Johnson became a frequent guest on many major television news shows when a question of terrorism came up. He was first interviewed by CNN following the capture of Carlos the Jackal. Johnson subsequently appeared on CNN, ABC's Nightline, CBS, the BBC, MSNBC, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, NBC, and NPR. In December of 1999, for example, Johnson was hired by NBC to serve as its terrorist expert for the Y2000 and was in Time Square with Tom Brokaw and Katie Couric ("a lot of fun and the best way to see in the New Year"). Johnson also was hired in January 2002 as a Fox News Analyst and remained under contract until February 2003.
Since 1994 a significant focus of Johnson's consulting work has been with the U.S. military special operations forces in scripting and conducting military counter terrorism exercises. He traveled under orders from the U.S. military to Iraq in May 2006 to work on a short term project.
A registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson became a strong critic of the Bush administration in May 2003 for its conduct of the war in Iraq and, a few months later, for its role in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.[5] He was also featured in the 2004 political documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. Since Robert Novak's controversial disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in July 2003, Johnson has contributed to public discourse on intelligence matters, often sparking further controversy. He has been interviewed by both the mass media and the alternative media and published commentaries on a variety of issues, including the Plame affair, the controversy concerning Mary McCarthy, and the resignation of Porter Goss as Director of Central Intelligence.
[edit]Views
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[edit]1996
In 1996, Johnson noted that terrorism worldwide was on the decline. "Terrorist incidents [both internationally and in the US] have fallen to levels not seen since the 1970s. Whether measured by the number of incidents, the number of fatalities, or the number of groups, raw statistics demonstrate that the level of terrorist violence has declined since the mid-1980s. In fact, the evidence suggests terrorism was more widespread and deadly 10 years ago."[6]
He also wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times suggesting that the newer and more deadly terrorist threat to the U.S. was embodied by "networks of terrorists, mostly foreign, working within its borders." Exemplifying this threat was Ramzi Yousef, one of the masterminds behind the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. In the article, Johnson suggests that enhanced cooperation between intelligence agencies, particularly the FBI and CIA, is mandatory to meet the growing threat of terror networks.[7]
[edit]1998
In 1998, Johnson argued that while overall terrorism was declining, the threat from bin Laden and al-Qaeda should be the focus of American counterterrorism policy:
The nature of the threat posed by Bin Ladin is highlighted by my final chart, number 7. Osama Bin Ladin and individuals associated with him have killed and wounded more Americans than any other group. This chart also illustrates that groups such as Hamas and the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) prior to 1998 have killed more foreigners in the anti-US terrorist attacks. If we take into account the bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama's status as the most lethal terrorist is certain.[8]
In addition, he told USA Today that bin Laden had participated in "virtually every major attack of terrorism against the United States" in the 1990s. Johnson underlined the threat posed by bin Laden, saying that he was possessed by "hatred and craziness." If left unanswered, "he would continue to terrorize Americans around the world. He has no compunction about killing women and children. He's a complete egalitarian in his murderous attitude."[9]
[edit]1999
In an interview with PBS's Frontline for its 1999 program, Hunting bin Laden, Johnson discussed Osama bin Laden.[10] According to Johnson, Americans had "tended to make Osama bin Laden sort of a superman in Muslim garb." "Actually," he continues, "Osama bin Laden, in my view, represents more of a symptom of a problem, and the problem is this: the Saudi Arabian government, not just Osama bin Laden but many people in Saudi Arabia, have been sending money to radical Islamic groups for years." Johnson continued:
When you look at who's killed Americans in the last 10 years, the individuals he's supported and backed--I'm basing that upon the initial information that's been released in the indictments and conversations with others in the intelligence communities--Osama bin Laden has been the one killing Americans. No other terrorist group in the world has been out killing Americans except for Osama bin Laden.... Osama bin Laden remains out there as the one really targeting us. So, we recognize that he's the threat. He's serious about wanting to kill Americans, but as long as he's in Afghanistan, as long as he doesn't have access to a cell phone, as long as he can't just hop on a plane and travel wherever he wants without fear of being arrested, his ability to plan and conduct terrorist operations is extremely limited. We have to recognize [that] he would like to do a lot of damage. He would like to kill Americans, but wanting to is different from being able to, having the full capabilities in place.[11]
In the interview, Johnson doubted the ability of members of bin Laden's organization to plan and put their lives on the line:
There's not another Ali or Mustafa out there at this point and Osama bin Laden in my view has not been a very effective organizer or leader. He talks a great game and puts out terrific threats as far as stirring the passions in the United States and maybe firing up the imaginations of some young Muslims throughout the world. But when push comes to shove, can he get a group of people who are together who will say: we are going to plan an operation, we're going to put our lives on the line, we're going to go out and try and kill people and we don't care what the consequence is? It hasn't happened.[12]
Frontline asked:
[Is it] ... fair to say what you're saying is that the president of the United States, his national security advisor, his deputy national security advisor for counter-terrorism, are basically blowing smoke [about the danger posed by bin Laden] and his followers]?
Johnson responded:
They're grossly exaggerating the problem. They are hyping it. They shouldn't be talking about rising terrorism. Instead of saying "terrorism's rising," it's not. "Terrorism is spreading," it's not. "More people are dying from terrorism," not the case. But what they should be saying is, "There's one individual out there that really doesn't like us, and he's made it his mission in life to kill Americans, and we've gotta deal with him." But we need to have a voice of reason in that process instead of putting ourselves out crying wolf, because this is essentially what's taking place right now. They call it the administration that cries wolf.[12]
[edit]2000
Johnson co-authored an article in 2000 with Milt Bearden which focused on the threat posed by al-Qaeda specifically, rather than terrorism trends in general. Beardon and Johnson note that new information emerging about the bombings at Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 points to the threat posed by Imad Mugniyah and Osama Bin Laden will require "a coordinated policy that will employ a full range of covert, clandestine, diplomatic, and military operations," concluding:
The Clinton Administration has shot its bolt on the terrorist problem with small effect, and no last minute show of force will change the record. A new administration can start afresh with a more sharply defined set of terrorism goals – Mughniyeh and bin Laden and their protectors for starters – and bring the full, coordinated force of American diplomatic, military, and intelligence capabilities to bear on the problem.[13]
[edit]2001
After Johnson's testimony to the special forum at the U.S. Senate, Gary J. Schmitt, executive director and CEO of the Project for the New American Century, refers in the Daily Standard (blog) to an op-ed piece Johnson wrote two months prior to the 9/11 attacks, claiming that Johnson argued that the US had little to fear from terrorism.[14]
In an editorial entitled "The Declining Terrorist Threat," published in the New York Times on 10 July 2001, Johnson says:
Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment, Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.... None of these beliefs are based in fact.... While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way.[15]
Ten days after the 9/11 attacks, after quoting the above passage, Timothy Noah concludes a post in his "Chatterbox" feature at Slate: "Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong."[16] Johnson defended himself against such attacks:
The rightwing is resurrecting an op-ed I wrote in July 2001. I stand by the full article. It is still relevant today. I am accused, incorrectly, of ignoring the threat of terrorism. In fact, I correctly noted that the real threat emanated from Bin Laden and Islamic extremism. President Bush, for his part, ignored the CIA warning in August 2001 that Al Qaeda was posed to strike inside the United States.[17]
After September 11, Johnson appeared several times on FOX News to address the question of military action against terrorism. On 14 November, he defended the FBI's proposal to interview 5,000 students in the U.S. suspected of having information relevant to the September 11 investigations:
I think they should talk to everyone that they feel they have a need to talk to. I mean, look, this is war. This is not a legal proceeding. This isn't the O.J. Simpson trial. The folks that attacked us -- they murdered Americans. And we've got to recognize that in wartime, we should do things differently.[18]
[edit]2003
In January 2003, Johnson wrote an analysis of the relationship between the upcoming U.S. invasion of Iraq and the threat of transnational terrorism. According to Johnson, Bremer's response was to tell him that "it didn't matter what Saddam did or didn't do, we were going to war."[19] The paper warned that an invasion would "do little to destroy the infrastructure of radical Islamic terrorism responsible for the 9-11 attacks." Noting that Saddam Hussein's regime has been a longtime supporter of regional terrorist organizations such as the PLO, Johnson examines contacts between Saddam Hussein and transnational terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda:
There is no doubt that Iraq is a state sponsor of terrorism—i.e., a country that provides financial support, safe haven, training, or weapons and explosives to groups or individuals that carry out terrorist attacks. . . . According to Central Intelligence Agency data, there is no credible evidence implicating Iraq in any mass casualty terrorist attacks since 1991. . . .
Johnson notes that the period immediately leading up to 2003 saw a rise of activity surrounding terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, suggesting that "Iraq is willing to help a movement that it would otherwise oppose on ideological grounds. Nonetheless," Johnson concludes, "it is important to understand that Iraqi entreaties to Al Qaeda, are most likely intended as a tactic to bolster Iraq’s ability to fight off a U.S. invasion rather than a deep-seated theological and ideological commitment to the terrorist agenda of Bin Laden.[20]
In that analysis Johnson also warns that the U.S.-led invasion was likely to backfire:
In fact there is a serious risk that a U.S. led war against Iraq may crystallize the diffused anger in the Arab and Muslim world — a heretofore unattained goal of bin Laden and his followers — and persuade more Muslim youths to take up the terrorist banner against America and her citizens.... If we decide to invade Iraq we must be prepared for the contingency that our attack will inspire young Muslims to pursue jihad against the West in general and the United States in particular. Just as the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan rallied many Muslims, especially young adults to the cause of jihad, a U.S. attack may enable Islamic extremists to attract new followers.[20]
Johnson also gave interviews on the topic of what to do with captured al-Qaeda leaders; while he did not condone torture, he suggested that a "sleep deprivation and reward system" might be useful for getting information from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
I don't see a constitutional right to have eight hours of sleep. You shouldn't subject someone to freezing but they don't get to wear mink coats, either.[21]
In May 2003, Johnson joined members of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) in condemning the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes:
It is a misuse and abuse of intelligence. The president was being misled. He was ill served by the folks who are supposed to protect him on this. Whether this was witting or unwitting, I don't know, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.[22]
[edit]Plame affair
After Robert Novak wrote a column identifying the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson as a CIA officer, the media invited Johnson to comment on the ensuing scandal because he had been a member of the same Career Trainee class with Valerie Plame Wilson. For example, in October 2003, he appeared on Democracy Now to discuss the Plame affair. He told interviewer Amy Goodman that Valerie Wilson's cover should have been respected whether she was an "analyst" or a "cleaning lady": "if she's undercover she's undercover, period. If the media allows themselves to get distracted with those kinds of curve balls, they ignore the issue."[23]
He told a Senate Democratic Policy Committee in October 2003, "My classmates and I have been betrayed. Together, we have kept the secrets of each other's identities a secret for 18 years. Each and every one of us have kept that secret, whether we were in the CIA, in other government service or in the private sector. But this issue is not just about a blown cover. It is about the destruction of the very essence, the core of human intelligence collection activities: plausible deniability, apparently, for partisan domestic political reasons."[24]
Johnson testified at a special joint hearing of Congressional and Senate Democrats on 22 July 2005 about the consequences arising from the Plame affair.[25]
[edit]2008
In 2008, Johnson emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. Larry Johnson's blog, NoQuarterUSA, became a rally point for Clinton supporters wary of Barack Obama's qualifications to be president. Supporters of Barack Obama insist that a story that first appeared on Johnson's blog--a report that Republican operatives have a tape of Michelle Obama making racially insenstive comments about caucasians--has been "refuted" Barack Obama's Fight the Smears website.[26]. However, Johnson never claimed to have the tape and reported that the Republican operatives controlling it intended to release the tape sometime after the Democratic Convention in August 2008. On October 21, however, he asserted that the operative in possession of the tape had been instructed by the McCain campaign not to release it.[27]
[edit]Notes
^ http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-political-coverage/
^ Larry C. Johnson, "About Me," No Quarter (personal blog).
^ "Former CIA Official Larry Johnson Delivers Democratic Radio Address," transcript posted on official Democratic National Committee's website for The Democratic Party, July 23, 2005], accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Interview with Larry Johnson, confirmed by his supervisor
^ "Ex-CIA official Blasts Bush on Leak of Operative's Name: Democrats' Radio Address Focuses on White House Aides' Role," CNN July 23, 2005, accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Gail Russell Chaddock, "Why Terrorists Pick On the French," Christian Science Monitor (5 December 1996) p. 1.
^ Larry Johnson, "Terrorists Among Us," New York Times (20 August 1996) p. A19.
^ Terrorism Today
^ Lee Michael Katz, "The Hunt for Bin Laden," USA Today (21 August 1998) p. 1A.
^ See Transcript of original interview with Larry C. Johnson, as broadcast on Frontline in 1999. Cf. "Interview: Larry C. Johnson," for Hunting bin Laden, transcript of interview broadcast on Frontline subsequently on 13 April 2001. See also dedicated PBS webpages for media links: Iraq and the War on Terror, Frontline PBS, online featured programs, accessed 19 November 2006.
^ frontline: hunting bin laden: interviews: larry c. johnson | PBS
^ a b [1].
^ As posted in [2].
^ Gary Schmitt, [ 07/25/2005 "Meet Larry Johnson: The CIA official Turned Democratic Spokesman Has a Pre-9/11 Mindset," Daily Standard (blog), July 25, 2005, accessed November 20, 2006.
^ *Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining Terrorist Threat," The New York Times 10 July 2001: A19.
^ Timothy Noah, "(Not Exactly a) Whopper of the Week: Larry C. Johnson," Chatterbox: Gossip, speculation, and scuttlebutt about politics (blog), hosted by Slate September 21, 2001, accessed November 20, 2006. Note the full context of this quotation:
It is, to be sure, a little bit cheap (and slightly at odds with the usual parameters of this feature) to criticize someone for making an erroneous prediction, particularly after a tragedy. Chatterbox is especially reluctant to tag Johnson because Johnson's op-ed was argued forcefully, backed up meticulously with factual data, and bravely at odds with conventional wisdom at the time of its publication. Add in that Johnson now makes his living as a consultant to corporations about terrorism, and therefore had everything to gain by exaggerating the dangers terrorism poses, and the guy practically looks like a hero. Chatterbox, who two decades ago was an editor for the New York Times op-ed page, would have published Johnson's piece had he still been an editor there this past July. In his capacity at Slate, Chatterbox might well have written up Johnson's prediction, and perhaps even endorsed it.
But boy, is he glad he didn't! Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong. Sadly, a mistake this embarrassing cannot be ignored. As a fellow skeptic, Chatterbox in all sincerity wishes Johnson better luck next time.
^ Larry C. Johnson, "Johnson vs. President Bush," re-posted and updated by SusanHu at DailyKos (blog) July 25, 2005.
^ FOX News Interview with John Garrett (14 November 2001) Transcript #111405cb.260.
^ [3].
^ a b Larry C. Johnson, "Setting the Record Straight on Iraqi Terrorism," posted in Booman Tribune: A Progressive Community (personal blog) 27 January 2003. accessed 19 November 2006.
^ Qtd. in Toby Harnden, "CIA 'pressure' on al-Qa'eda chief," The London Telegraph 5 March 2003: 16.
^ Qtd. in Nicolas D. Kristof, "Save Our Spooks," The New York Times 30 May 2003:A6.
^ Democracy Now (3 October 2003)[4]
^ U.S. Senate, Democratic Policy Committee Meeting on the CIA Operative Leak, (24 October 2003).
^ Letter to the Senate.[Needs full source citation; see "References" section.]
^ Tumulty, Karen (2008-06-12). "Will Obama's Anti-Rumor Plan Work?", Time Magazine. Retrieved on 20 June 2008.:"a story that apparently first made a big splash on the Internet in late May in a post by pro-Hillary Clinton blogger Larry Johnson"
^ Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy MartinSee Authors Posts (1090) on February 28, 2008 at 8:12 PM in Current Affairs
So much for the “new” politician who ain’t going to spin you. Barack Obama’s claim about his 2002 opposition to the war in Iraq does not hold water. Maybe it is a memory lapse. Maybe a lie. What is certain, it is not true!
Senator Clinton said the following:
SEN. CLINTON: Well, I have put forth my extensive experience in foreign policy, you know, helping to support the peace process in Northern Ireland, negotiating to open borders so that refugees fleeing ethnic cleansing would be safe, going to Beijing and standing up for women’s rights as human rights and so much else. And every time the question about qualifications and credentials for commander in chief are raised, Senator Obama rightly points to the speech he gave in 2002. He’s to be commended for having given the speech. Many people gave speeches against the war then, and the fair comparison is he didn’t have responsibility, he didn’t have to vote; by 2004 he was saying that he basically agreed with the way George Bush was conducting the war. And when he came to the Senate, he and I have voted exactly the same. We have voted for the money to fund the war until relatively recently. So the fair comparison was when we both had responsibility, when it wasn’t just a speech but it was actually action, where is the difference? Where is the comparison that would in some way give a real credibility to the speech that he gave against the war?
And Barack responded:
SEN. OBAMA: Let me just follow up. My objections to the war in Iraq were simply — not simply a speech. I was in the midst of a U.S. Senate campaign. It was a high-stakes campaign. I was one of the most vocal opponents of the war, and I was very specific as to why.
Only problem–Barack did not start running for the U.S. Senate seat until 2003. You see, in 2002 he was running for State senate. In that position he was pandering to the most liberal district in the State of Illinois. But hell, it is Barack. Why hold him accountable for anything?
But this raises a more fundamental issue. Why can’t he get his facts straight on something so important to his campaign. Why does he rely on a bullshit account of history? And why does the media allow this guy to get away with this nonsense?
Hat tip to lambert strether for this catch.


















Why let facts stand in the way of a good story?
OBAMA REENACTS 2002 SPEECH FOR AD
October 13, 2007
BY LYNN SWEET Sun-Times Columnist
WASHINGTON — The Obama campaign readily admits that White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) recently recorded a portion of the Oct. 2, 2002, anti-Iraq war speech he originally delivered at an outdoor rally in Chicago for a new ad that went online Thursday.
There is no good audio tape of the speech, which is playing a pivotal role in the Obama campaign. But the campaign used a sound effect to create the impression one was listening to the original speech.
“It was Barack re-reading a portion of the speech. As I told you, there is no original tape,” Obama’s chief strategist, David Axelrod, told me in an e-mail exchange.
The 77-second ad uses sound effects that could easily lead one to conclude that one is listening to Obama making the original speech at the plaza rally outside the Kluczynski Federal Building in the Loop.
It is a sound effect to make the Obama spot seem something it is not.
Obama’s voice sounds as if it were recorded off a loudspeaker. The sound effect gives Obama’s voice a reverberation, or echo-like quality.
The spot is titled “Blank Check” and is designed to underscore one of — perhaps the most potent — calling cards of Obama, his early opposition to the Iraq war.
Obama’s new voice-over uses a key quote from the Oct. 2 speech at the rally in which protesters tried to head off the Senate’s Oct. 11, 2002, vote to authorize the Iraq war:
“I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length at undetermined cost with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaida.”
His whole campaign is based on this speech. Unbelievable.
And this guy’s got the softest definition of “high-stakes”. He wants to run against a man who for five years was a prisoner of war?
If he’s president, I hope his memory is better re the football.
But, you know, he says he is always losin’ stuff and has to have people taking care of him, helping him remember stuff, and where he put things.
if the press do eventually pick up on his distortions and lapsed as they did on Gore he’s completely fucked.
Perhaps Obama was refering to his “high stakes’ Illinois Senate election?
What is most troubling about his claim is that he was not privy to any of the information that Senator Clinton reviewed in order to base her decision. Spo what exactly was his grandiose claim of being against the War in Iraq based on? He was just not in any position to make a credible decision like that either way. So it was just a speech.
Also, given his limited track record in the U.S. Senate Obama has voted with the Democrat leadership 100% of the time. So why should we accept that if he were in the U.S. Senate at the time of the Iraq War vote that he would not have voted with Hillary and most of the other Democrats? What in his brief tenure would lead one to believe that Obama would have broken ranks to vote against the war? Nothing. It’s typical Monday Morning QBing.
Really well stated and summarized, S. Markom. Fine job.
From Pat Lang
Larry has also discussed and dissected this aspect here at NQ at length. It is personal source of pride (And rightfully so) that his former agency, the INR got it right.
And in regard to Saddam allowing the pricey Al Samouds being destroyed - (not to be confused with the SCUD) this was unprecedented.
That was when the mission of disarming Saddam was accomplished.
And on Mar. 7, 2003, ElBaradei blew the neocons of destroying story completely out of the water with his revelation of the forged documents and the aluminum tubes. Yet at that point, it didn’t matter. This WH had other plans and betrayed the trust of congress, the UN and the American people.
Obama took a guess. He has admitted it but it is a far different story from what his followers say.
http://www.mepc.org/journal_vol11/0406_lang.asp
What has Obama done or gotten right?
Let’s see, on forgeign experience and being the Chair of that covers NATO, done nothing, right thing to do would have been to resign it, as a surge is expected in Afgan this summer and NATO needs to prepare, thus people will die at Obama’s hands since for him lives are not as important as doctoring his resume being a Chair of an important commitee!
Let’s see, Obama returned dirty money to charity that got him to his place in political arena of the US Senate! But wait it wasn’t Obama’s money he donated to charity for his misdeeds, it was contributors to his Presidential campaign who paid for Obama’s past sins! Now why should people who support a Presidential campaign pay for Obama’s past sins for, it doesn’t make sense, he should have withdrawn, if he was a honest politician he claims to be, that would have been “Change” and tranparency! So by duping the people, Obama gets to keep his job and keep his dirty house, this is the new politics he speaks of he brings to Washington?
This character Obama will use every dirty trick to get what he wants, it is amazing how foolish people can be to believe in someone they know nothing about!
You need some hope dope, Mel.
Also there’s a British prince in the combat zone.
So One might hope a few of the big candidates knew this fact. Huge story if he were killed or kidnapped.
I’d hold that fucking asshole Matt Drudge responsible. He’s no different than Robert Novak. He’d sell his own granny for a chance to look big.
He’s still sucking up the limelite when the Freepers were his source, not the Clinton campaign. And, I know personally that CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, PBS, WashPost, NYTimes, LATimes, HoustonChron, and others have been notified to the origin of the Obama in garb photo. Have they issued a retraction? Nyet!
My family asks me…
Why do you ever call the networks to correct the stories? You know they don’t correct themselves.
answer: so I can bear witness that they were indeed informed, instead of presuming it.
Which brings up a question for me:
What are we going to do about these networks and rags when they simply distort at will and won’t clean up their own record?
As citizens, should we have a right to a distortion free zone about information? If not, how can we be a “well informed citizenry’?
The Manufacture of Consent is the game.
At one time, the press tried to give a fair presentation. Fox News came around and gave the gawkers tabloid news. CNN and other networks suffered from it. Now ALL networks have adopted this method of “news”.
Not only is the printed press so godawful (I can count at least one spelling mistake every 2 articles — you know one even a basic word processer can fix?), the TV thinks pundits ARE the news.
I’d rather return to days when my morning and evening news were delivered in monotone, by old men who saw the worst life could offer, than some peppy 20 year-old who’s smart on fashion and fads, but brick dumb on decency and taste.
But, that’s liberalism. Free to do everything anyone pleases, hells bells on any class or decency.
The real problem is: Clinton and Obama are both POLITICIANS!
The question really is: which one can you COUNT on to not f*ck it up in the White House.
I’ll take my chances with the Lady.
SusanUnPC Hope is for dopes, I want realism, someone to get the job done and not someone who “hopes” to be able to do the job! But wait, what ever has Obama ever done, nothing!
I recall the election of 2000 and everyone said how likeable Bush as, the kind of guy you’d want to sit around the house and have a beer with! Well Obama is proving to be the last person I would want in my house to have a beer, by the time he was done with his beer, he’d probably have taken title to my house with his sleezy tactics, and if I don’t give it to him, his wife would claim I was racial that I wouldn’t give it to him…..lol
Hey, he beat Alan Keyes!
I’m sorry, it was just too inviting and obvious to leave untouched on the table…
Lies and more lies. It comes to the point that I no longer believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
Oh this guy is not offering hope anymore…now fear is all I feel in his presence.
People don’t actually think that during a time of war the nation is going to elect a guy whose whole record of experience and judgment rests on an anti-war speech? I mean, what if Hussein did have WMDs? I’m not saying it was a good thing to go to war, but I mean our president has to be capable of engaging in war if need be. All BO does is talk about sitting down with dictators and bombin our allies. He’s a joke.
The thing I respect about Hillary is the armed services will follow her. She is a commander they respect. That’s not easy for a woman — it goes against a long history of sexism. But she has the strength and grit and smarts to be Commander in Chief. I hope you come through for us TX, OH, RI and even VT.
Agreed.
Bone crunching fear, he’s feeling.
At least, that’s how I read him.
Hillary loves knowledge. She wants to know all sides to all stories. Then she will make an educated decision. She is not afraid to ask the experts. That is another reason I like her. She is so smart. I’m not saying she won’t make mistakes but I think her judgment is basically sound.
More and more he is reminding me of a smarter, hopefully more leftward leaning version of GWB and I’m really not liking what I am seeing.
I read a linked article about his Illinois Senate career, I believe it was here to Mydd to a link to another site, what a total turd Obama is. He took credit for all the hard work that other Senators had done on bills!!! Unbelievable. That alone makes me think that I won’t be voting for him, it reminds me of all the times workers of both sexes (especially females) do all the work and then the boss takes the credit or gives it to his “pet”, sickening. Small wonder some there don’t have fond thoughts of him…
I probably ought to clarify that BO can string five word sentences together without stumbling, not necessarily that he would be smarter policy wise. Also if he didn’t really do the work on these bills, you know what, we really don’t know at ALL what we are getting into with this guy.
I used to think Obama was Bush light, now I’m really thinking Bush is Obama light.
Meaning, Bush is starting to look good to me, now.
It is interesting that it took Bush to comment on this for the MSM to even
pose the question about Sen. Obama’s position to meet
*personally during his first year as president*
with the leaders of Iran, North Korea, Siria
February 28, 2008
Blitzer: Would U.S. be better off if it met with adversaries?
Posted: 03:49 PM ET
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/category/wolf-blitzer/
Does anyone have Sen. Obama’s speech at a rally (I think?) when he dared Sen. Clinton’s point that you cannot just say that he would do such a thing
(without putting in place first of preconditions, low level contacts first) by saying
“Watch me ! ”
If you have or know of a youtube link please post.
His position on this and his a total abdication of one of his principal Senate responsibilities as chairman of the Foreign Relation subcommitee on Europe, NATO, are truly scary…
“So the fair comparison was when we both had responsibility, when it wasn’t just a speech but it was actually action, where is the difference? Where is the comparison that would in some way give a real credibility to the speech that he gave against the war?”
I think that was extremely well put by Senator Clinton. The problem is the media is not interested in any sense of fairness or balance in their reporting. I am afraid that all the negative and constant bombardment of the public my the media is going to have the effect of suppressing voters for Clinton. This campaign against Senator Clinton by the media is second only to the WMD story in exemplifying Orwellian fears.
Let’s not forget that there is no authenticating record of his 2002 anti-war speech, but for a snippet of tape. So what does Obama do? He re-enacts his supposed words with recorded crowd noises in the background for the purposes of making an ad. Total deception and yet nobody is calling him on it.
Really, I’m sorry I haven’t heard this before, can you supply links?
Read all about Obama’s reenactment of his 2002 speech here:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/601567,CST-NWS-obama13.article
More analysis:
http://cliffpotter.newsvine.com/_news/2008/02/01/1271077-bolstering-obamas-iraq-war-claims-is-obama-manipulating-the-public
October 13, 2007
BY LYNN SWEET Sun-Times Columnist
WASHINGTON — The Obama campaign readily admits that White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) recently recorded a portion of the Oct. 2, 2002, anti-Iraq war speech he originally delivered at an outdoor rally in Chicago for a new ad that went online Thursday.
There is no good audio tape of the speech, which is playing a pivotal role in the Obama campaign. But the campaign used a sound effect to create the impression one was listening to the original speech.
“It was Barack re-reading a portion of the speech. As I told you, there is no original tape,” Obama’s chief strategist, David Axelrod, told me in an e-mail exchange.
The 77-second ad uses sound effects that could easily lead one to conclude that one is listening to Obama making the original speech at the plaza rally outside the Kluczynski Federal Building in the Loop.
It is a sound effect to make the Obama spot seem something it is not.
Obama’s voice sounds as if it were recorded off a loudspeaker. The sound effect gives Obama’s voice a reverberation, or echo-like quality.
The spot is titled “Blank Check” and is designed to underscore one of — perhaps the most potent — calling cards of Obama, his early opposition to the Iraq war.
Obama’s new voice-over uses a key quote from the Oct. 2 speech at the rally in which protesters tried to head off the Senate’s Oct. 11, 2002, vote to authorize the Iraq war:
“I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length at undetermined cost with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaida.”
I could have sworn that Oama dug up some dirt on his opponent who dropped out of that campaign. That candidate was replaced by Alan Keyes who didn’t even live in Illinois. That is why he won so handily. He ran against the worst candidate imaginable. Now they act like this was some miracle win.The only miracle was is ability to dig up dirt on is opponent. Much like a republican campaign. That was not a hard campaign by any means.
One speech does not make you “one of the most outspoken critics of the war”. Howard Dean, for example, was what I would call “outspoken”.
Obama gave one speech. But if he was so outspoken, what more did he do? Did he writte a few editorial? A state senator could have gotten one published in Illinois. He could have given a dozen speeches. Did he march in anti-war protests? Surely they had them in Chicago. One speech hardly anyone heard doesn’t cut it as an anti-war leader.
LAMBERT DID NOT CATCH THAT!
There is no need to give a hat tip to Lambert for blogging about something on Wednesday.
One of Lambert’s reader’s saw C.I.’s post Tuesday night and that’s who caught it, C.I.
This is the url to C.I.’s entry:
http://thecommonills.blogspot.com/2008/02/barack-obama-lied-in-debate.html
Not only did C.I. catch it on Tuesday night, I left a comment on Susan’s post about that:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/26/lets-fact-check-the-bamboozler/
Here’s the comment I left on Tuesday:
Great job Susan. Here’s one more. C.I. points out B.O. lied in the debate:
http://thecommonills.blogspot.com/2008/02/barack-obama-lied-in-debate.html
Quote: “My objections to the war in Iraq were simply — not simply a speech. I was in the midst of a U.S. Senate campaign. It was a high-stakes campaign.”
He wasn’t running for the US Senate. He was running for re-election to the state senate.
C.I.: “He lied. This isn’t “mispoke.” He said “US Senate.” It made him sound better. And it was a lie. That speech is not something new to him, he has referenced it over and over. He knows when he gave it. He’s reference that over and over. He was not running for the US Senate. He thought he could get away with it (and during the debate he did).”
Considering that C.I. hasn’t slammed Larry the way a lot of other people have been doing online, I’m really offended that Lambert’s getting credit.
Isn’t one of our problems with Obama that Hillary does the work and Obama comes along and says “Me too” and he’s hailed as a genius?
C.I.’s just one more woman getting ripped off online and I’m not going to pretend it’s not happening.
Give credit where it’s due, to C.I. of The Common Ills.
And before she’s ripped off again, C.I. addressed the issue of those saying “Well he wasn’t talking about 2002, he mispoke” in this:
http://thecommonills.blogspot.com/2008/02/iraq-snapshot_28.html
And C.I. ran through his record here:
http://thecommonills.blogspot.com/2008/02/i-hate-war_28.html
C.I. and Elaine
http://likemariasaidpaz.blogspot.com/
have repeatedly blogged on Barack Obama not being “anti-war.” They found out at a 2004 fundraiser. They’ve been writing about that since long before he announced he was running for president.
Obama cannot even get his full name straight…So much for being comfortable in his own skin nonsense. Obama acts out all offended when people use his full name and everyone is apologizing … Have they all lost their minds?
Found an interesting article on “Time” about this yesterday.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1718255,00.html
He can’t even get his facts straight re:his conception claiming his parents met in Selma,AL in 1965. Except, he was born in 1961. OOOPPPSSS!!!
Obama: “Because some folks were willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama, Jr. was born. So
don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama.” (Senator Barack Obama, Remarks At Brown Chapel AME Church, Selma, AL, 3/4/07)
Here’s a story from a Houston weekly on Obama’s work in the Illinois state senate. I’m new to this site (glad to be here) and don’t know if it’s been viewed here.
http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me
You aren’t Lynn Wyatt by any chance, are you?
Simon, I’m not Lynn Wyatt.
Obama launched his campaign committee to run for US senate in July 2002, so his anti-Iraq war speech of October 2002 was made with the knowledge that it will be used against him.
Larry, have you given up life in your devotion to bash Obama?
A pity…
Obama could add drama to Senate race
Click here for complete article
Author: Steve Neal
Date: July 3, 2002
Publication: Chicago Sun-Times
Page: 41
Word Count: 826
Excerpt:
He could win it all. State Sen. Barack Obama (D-Chicago), the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, who teaches constitutional law at the University of Chicago, is hoping to be the 2004 Democratic nominee against Republican Sen. Peter Fitzgerald.
Earlier this week, Obama launched a campaign committee to challenge Republican Sen. Peter Fitzgerald in 2004.
He didn’t announce his candidacy until end of Jan 2003. In Oct 2002, he was indeed running for his 4th term for State Senate.