By STEPHEN ORAVECZ Tribune Chronicle

Barack Obama said Saturday that one of his top campaign officials spoke with a Canadian consulate general representative about NAFTA, but nothing he said contradicted the candidate’s stand on the North American Free Trade Agreement.

In a telephone interview with the Tribune Chronicle, Obama said, ‘‘I don’t know all the details but my understanding is that my chief economist, Mr. Goolsbee, was invited to speak to somebody in the local office of consulate general of Canada.’’

Austan Goolsbee is the top economic adviser for Obama’s presidential campaign.

‘‘If I’m not mistaken, they had a very cordial conversation and there was at no point any suggestion in any way that I wasn’t as serious as I can be about the need to make changes in NAFTA,’’ Obama said.

How does this jibe with his earlier categorical denials? Answer: It doesn’t. Now he’s all nonchalant…

Obama is full of it.

http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/page/content.detail/id/502344.html?nav=5021

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIp4KwLyMNY

Wolfson and others discussed NAFTA-gate, responded to questions, and demanded answers. Interesting.

This line is getting old, and it is fundamentally anti free speech. You stick to your myopia bud.

This isn’t over because CTV stands by their story. I too called them on Friday and asked if there was an update. They were ready to name names.

“The facts of our story are accurate.” - Greg McIsaac, Communications Manager, News Information and Current Affairs, CTV

Just because Obama’s camp says it didn’t happen means nothing, of course they deny. You expect them to admit to lying to all of us? Are you dense!?

And diplomats aren’t exactly in the business of saying, “yep, Obama called us, it was so poor of him to do that”
That would amount to interfering with election in the US.

Why don’t you write a story about McCain, instead of being lazy and asking others to do it in place of your remarkable genius.

It isn’t a matter of “hillary’s position being better”
Obama brought it up to attack. He is a liar, manipulator, and a con artist Trojan Horse.
He sings a tune to one person (borrowed), then sings it to the next (borrowed still).

“The story, irrespectively of the accuracy of the final-final version (which is yet to be refined), is completely bogus.”

Evidence? OH, yeah, Obama’s camp
SEE: Appeal to Authority Fallacy

Care to wager this is legit?…you win, I won’t vote in November, I win…well that will be good enough for me.

Note: Obama’s spokesman was asked to respond:
“Obama doesn’t make promises he doesn’t intend to keep”
oh yeah? Like this
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/22/AR2006102200220.html

Until yesterday, Obama, one of the brightest stars in the party since he electrified the 2004 Democratic National Convention with his keynote address, had said he planned to serve out the full six years of his Senate term, which would have ruled out a presidential or vice presidential campaign in 2008.

Stop telling people what to say and write, it is rather presumptive of you. I am very glad Larry Johnson and Susan have opened this up. I’d be fucking pissed to have fallen into Karl Rove’s Trojan Horse Candidate because nobody would put him through the vetting process.

Re: Austen Goolsbee, even you say:
“and he talked to someone in the Chicago Consulate-General ”

wait…is the story bogus or not?
I thought nobody called them, it was bogus…it never happened?
The of course you make it sound like he’s a hair above a contributor…
hardly
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/02/sorry_goolsbee_doesnt_sound_fr.cfm

“Goolsbee, a University of Chicago economics professor, Thursday who would not confirm or deny that he had a conversation with Georges Rioux, the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.”

Won’t Confirm or Deny….

Funny, the camp with supposed integrity, ethics and the change in washington got out done by Hillary (I’ll fire staffers who call him a Muslim) Clinton:
Not only did they deny any contact with Canada on this, they authorized them to publish whoever the contact was.

Why doesn’t Obama’s camp do that? Why didn’t they respond quickly instead of hanging on so long?
And why when asked about it do we get:
‘obama doesn’t make promises he doesn’t intend to keep’?

Thanks Larry for keeping this alive despite the willful disregard of posters like this.
This thing got legs baby, keep paying attention.

The story, irrespectively of the accuracy of the final-final version (which is yet to be refined), is completely bogus. It started out as “high-level staffer” communicating with the Canadian Embassy. Then the source got cold feet on the story–maybe it was a miscommunication (one has to wonder–by whom?). Then the story gets a jolt from a defibrillator–uhm… it’s not senior campaign staff but an academic adviser (we’ll call him “senior” nonetheless because it makes us look less stupid) and he talked to someone in the Chicago Consulate-General (not an Embassy–but who really knows the difference!). Basically, it’s a cover-up of a false story.

But even assume that Obama’s rhetoric on NAFTA is overheated. Is Hillary’s position any better? Does anyone really have any illusions whatsoever that NAFTA somehow will be affected by the choice of president? It is an international treaty, after all, and one does not take it lightly. Sure, it’s convenient to pound the table while claiming to shed tears for the American workers, but, in the end, nothing will happen. Anyone who votes on what a candidate “believes” about NAFTA is an idiot, because no one one will do anything about it.

But the fact that you keep revisiting the issue with updates, trying to resuscitate the story is not to your credit. Leave it alone. You can support Clinton without resorting to this nonsense. It’s worse when something is being made out of the non-denials from both sides that were supposedly involved–the point of non-denial is NOT to feed the monkey. Go back to the McCain kissing up to lobbyists story–much more red meat on that one. Or McCain’s kiss up to Hagee. But drop this line–it’s unbecoming.

Chelsea is the queen of intellect, poise, and humility. I really wish Bill and HIllary had had more kids. I have never thought about starting a movement but listening to Chelsea had me thinking about it.

The CCCC (Clone Chelsea Clinton Campaign) Damn that young woman is brilliant!

Wonder why the MSM does not cover her question and answer sessions? Probably because she knows what she is talking about in detail.

I never thought I would witness someone beat Bill Clinton in the clear information and intellect arena…his own daughter puts everyone to shame.

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People started buying it a pound at a time and mailing them to their congressional reps.

There was a big stink, if you understand how slowly the Post Office operates.

The Nixon administration made certain that the Post Office outlawed it for health reasons.

CTV originally stands by its story, which to fever-swamp residents like Taylor Marsh and Larry Johnson proves that it must be true. After all, since people in the Bush administration have told lies, […]

Obama’s landlord, Auchi, sues, even when the press is reporting the truth.

Is the Canadian press as limp as the American press, or do they have real teeth?

No, MoveOn was right to air that ad. What was disgusting was the cowardice of “progressives” when the right wing smear machine went into high gear. We should have stuck by our guns and explained exactly how Petreaus, Bush et al were betraying us. We got to get in peoples grills when they try to distract us with bright shiny objects. (lookey four bright stars on a jacket of Olive Green- BOW YOUR HEAD!)

I agree with you.

Petraeus is a creature of the Bush administration, I admire Adm Fallon, if Adm Fallon calls him Gen ass kissing little chicken shit, well, if it’s good enough for Fallon, it’s good enough for me, too.

If the administration is breaking the law, if it is deliberately undermining the Constitution, and it still matters, who will defend our government from enemies within, but the military, and intelligence, and govt career employees, when Congress stands down, out of greed and cowardice?

The people and the military.

IMO, General Petraeus sold himself for twenty pieces, a creature of the Reagan eighties.

Too bad moveon. org blew it’s credibilty with endorsing Obama, though.

I consider Obama’s ties with Auchi to be even more vile.

You can’t call out general petraeus, and ignore Obama’s crimes, and connections, to Iraq.

in any way given that his chief economist is a DLC man and the DLC is well know for supporting Wall Street over the working class and the national well-being.

I have a democratic family member, who, from the time I can remember, always struggled against this element of the democratic party, to the point of writing off Bill Clinton, when he deregulated the banks.

It helps you keep your head on straight when you remember it has to the poor and middle classes who must always be protected from, as well as have an equal place at the table with, the marshmallow fluffy wealth, no matter what that self proclaimed elite tries to sell us, whether it’s Obama, or privatized social security.

None of which works in the long run, anyway.

No, MoveOn’s campaign was brilliant. They got in the face of the Surge propaganda machine and thrilled their base. They got tons of free publicity and grew their numbers. Sorry, but why do only Republicans get to say provocative things to inspire their base but Democrats and progressives do not? Point of fact Susan, Petreaus did betray his oath of office by becoming Bush’s point man for the Surge. He got nose deep in the muck of politics to advance his own career. He dissevered all the scorn of the MoveOn ad and more.

SuasanUnPC you post to a site called No Quarter; sometimes you really do need to take that attitude out to the General Public and make a stand. Sometimes you really do need to call out “bullshit.”

No, MoveOn was right to air that ad. What was disgusting was the cowardice of “progressives” when the right wing smear machine went into high gear. We should have stuck by our guns and explained exactly how Petreaus, Bush et al were betraying us. We got to get in peoples grills when they try to distract us with bright shiny objects. (lookey four bright stars on a jacket of Olive Green- BOW YOUR HEAD!)

Both Vaughn and Joplin were from Texas, Joplin from Port Arthur.

Port Arthur HATED Joplin, that was too bad. Never really into her music, though.